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IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-08 01:43 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 12:09 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-08 05:57 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 13:56 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-08 10:34 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 20:36 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-08 16:59 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 02:09 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-08 21:56 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 03:13 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 11:13 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 11:13 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 05:26 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 17:35 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 11:22 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 11:31 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 18:41 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 11:47 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 18:58 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 12:48 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 21:07 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 00:45 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 01:03 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 15:40 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 08:50 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 16:01 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 16:32 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 01:10 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 01:22 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 01:57 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 03:19 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 11:13 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 05:09 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 15:30 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 08:42 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 16:27 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 20:06 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 13:21 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-09 21:19 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 21:19 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 21:26 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 23:08 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 21:32 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 07:45 -0500
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 06:37 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 13:59 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 07:10 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 14:17 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 07:36 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 15:57 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 11:12 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 18:36 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 11:50 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 19:02 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 13:13 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 20:18 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 13:22 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 20:59 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 14:06 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 22:55 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 23:58 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 21:58 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 22:06 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 23:49 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-11 13:21 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 11:37 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 11:49 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 11:59 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 21:52 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 11:39 -0700
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 15:50 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-10 15:46 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 11:44 -0500
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 11:41 -0500
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-09 19:57 +0000
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 07:44 -0500
Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! "Boner J. Skidmark" <ForgyMcForgeFace@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-10 07:11 -0700
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-08 01:43 -0700 |
| Subject | IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <3e5761f5-498d-47cc-afd2-702a3ced4e23@googlegroups.com> |
space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !! the ''secret'' is again in mass !! iow gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance now beyond that range : --ATRACTION IS REPLACED BY REPULSION !!!! (that is as well taking in account the 'dark matter that is between masses ======================= how about that ?? TIA Y.Porat ==========================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-08 12:09 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <pad0pq$1gf3$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680305 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !! What genie revealed this to you? > > the ''secret'' is again in mass !! > iow > gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance > now > beyond that range : > --ATRACTION IS REPLACED BY REPULSION !!!! > > (that is as well taking in account the 'dark matter that is between masses > ======================= > how about that ?? > TIA > Y.Porat > ========================== > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-08 05:57 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <1f3751be-e05c-4fc5-9968-980495af497f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680310 |
On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 3:09:34 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> > space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !!
>
> What genie revealed this to you?
=======================
odd
thank you for your question :
I imagine that what I asserted above
was moving something in you intuitive curiosity
knowing me as not a complete idiot..
and someone that has a creative mind for physics
so
see the y circlon mechanism again
if you remember my scheme about it
you could see that
the curved force lines there
act only for a limited distance
because they are curved with curvature directed to their ''mother mass'
if so the rang of their activity
--IS LIMITED IN DISTANCE FROM 'MOTHER MASS '
if do
while distance from 'mother mass becomes bigger
then there is no more attraction force !!
now
'foreign ''masses -(say dark matter)
are intervening in bringing in their activity
that is disturbing/ and not compatible/ to the activity
(''harmony needed ( of original
attraction force of that was the
original attraction forces
I hope I explained something that was/came to my mind
--
in short
it *starts *with the systematic y circlon mechanism
done my masses
and is ended with (if you like)chaos
between the big masses and become
repulsion between them
nothing to do with space
that has no properties except hosting mass
ie
it is always the activity 0f **masses involved **
======
Y.Porat
========================
>
> >
> > the ''secret'' is again in mass !!
> > iow
> > gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance
> > now
> > beyond that range :
> > --ATRACTION IS REPLACED BY REPULSION !!!!
> >
> > (that is as well taking in account the 'dark matter that is between masses
> > =======================
> > how about that ??
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ==========================
> >
> >
>
>
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-04-08 13:56 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <pad735$1rko$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680311 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 3:09:34 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !!
>>
>> What genie revealed this to you?
> =======================
> odd
> thank you for your question :
>
> I imagine that what I asserted above
> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity
> knowing me as not a complete idiot..
> and someone that has a creative mind for physics
> so
> see the y circlon mechanism again
> if you remember my scheme about it
> you could see that
> the curved force lines there
> act only for a limited distance
> because they are curved with curvature directed to their ''mother mass'
> if so the rang of their activity
>
> --IS LIMITED IN DISTANCE FROM 'MOTHER MASS '
>
> if do
> while distance from 'mother mass becomes bigger
> then there is no more attraction force !!
> now
> 'foreign ''masses -(say dark matter)
> are intervening in bringing in their activity
> that is disturbing/ and not compatible/ to the activity
> (''harmony needed ( of original
> attraction force of that was the
> original attraction forces
>
> I hope I explained something that was/came to my mind
> --
> in short
> it *starts *with the systematic y circlon mechanism
> done my masses
> and is ended with (if you like)chaos
> between the big masses and become
> repulsion between them
> nothing to do with space
> that has no properties except hosting mass
> ie
> it is always the activity 0f **masses involved **
> ======
> Y.Porat
> ========================
None of this answers my question. I asked you about how you know the nature
of space and you answered about circlons and the role of mass. Please
answer my question about space and how you know.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> the ''secret'' is again in mass !!
>>> iow
>>> gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance
>>> now
>>> beyond that range :
>>> --ATRACTION IS REPLACED BY REPULSION !!!!
>>>
>>> (that is as well taking in account the 'dark matter that is between masses
>>> =======================
>>> how about that ??
>>> TIA
>>> Y.Porat
>>> ==========================
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-04-08 10:34 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <9193702b-368c-4992-ad33-24287d29a9f3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680314 |
On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 4:56:58 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 3:09:34 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !!
> >>
> >> What genie revealed this to you?
> > =======================
> > odd
> > thank you for your question :
> >
> > I imagine that what I asserted above
> > was moving something in you intuitive curiosity
> > knowing me as not a complete idiot..
> > and someone that has a creative mind for physics
> > so
> > see the y circlon mechanism again
> > if you remember my scheme about it
> > you could see that
> > the curved force lines there
> > act only for a limited distance
> > because they are curved with curvature directed to their ''mother mass'
> > if so the rang of their activity
> >
> > --IS LIMITED IN DISTANCE FROM 'MOTHER MASS '
> >
> > if do
> > while distance from 'mother mass becomes bigger
> > then there is no more attraction force !!
> > now
> > 'foreign ''masses -(say dark matter)
> > are intervening in bringing in their activity
> > that is disturbing/ and not compatible/ to the activity
> > (''harmony needed ( of original
> > attraction force of that was the
> > original attraction forces
> >
> > I hope I explained something that was/came to my mind
> > --
> > in short
> > it *starts *with the systematic y circlon mechanism
> > done my masses
> > and is ended with (if you like)chaos
> > between the big masses and become
> > repulsion between them
> > nothing to do with space
> > that has no properties except hosting mass
> > ie
> > it is always the activity 0f **masses involved **
> > ======
> > Y.Porat
> > ========================
>
> None of this answers my question. I asked you about how you know the nature
> of space and you answered about circlons and the role of mass. Please
> answer my question about space and how you know.
=========================
I will ask you for a simple PHYSICS!!!!! answer
===============================================
WAHT ARE THE **PHYSICAL** **DIMENSIONS** OF SPACE ...
================================================
BTW a minor question :
why do you top post ?!!
==========================
TIA
Y.Porat
===================================
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>> the ''secret'' is again in mass !!
> >>> iow
> >>> gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance
> >>> now
> >>> beyond that range :
> >>> --ATRACTION IS REPLACED BY REPULSION !!!!
> >>>
> >>> (that is as well taking in account the 'dark matter that is between masses
> >>> =======================
>
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-04-08 20:36 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <padugh$17k4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680338 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 4:56:58 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 3:09:34 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !!
>>>>
>>>> What genie revealed this to you?
>>> =======================
>>> odd
>>> thank you for your question :
>>>
>>> I imagine that what I asserted above
>>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity
>>> knowing me as not a complete idiot..
>>> and someone that has a creative mind for physics
>>> so
>>> see the y circlon mechanism again
>>> if you remember my scheme about it
>>> you could see that
>>> the curved force lines there
>>> act only for a limited distance
>>> because they are curved with curvature directed to their ''mother mass'
>>> if so the rang of their activity
>>>
>>> --IS LIMITED IN DISTANCE FROM 'MOTHER MASS '
>>>
>>> if do
>>> while distance from 'mother mass becomes bigger
>>> then there is no more attraction force !!
>>> now
>>> 'foreign ''masses -(say dark matter)
>>> are intervening in bringing in their activity
>>> that is disturbing/ and not compatible/ to the activity
>>> (''harmony needed ( of original
>>> attraction force of that was the
>>> original attraction forces
>>>
>>> I hope I explained something that was/came to my mind
>>> --
>>> in short
>>> it *starts *with the systematic y circlon mechanism
>>> done my masses
>>> and is ended with (if you like)chaos
>>> between the big masses and become
>>> repulsion between them
>>> nothing to do with space
>>> that has no properties except hosting mass
>>> ie
>>> it is always the activity 0f **masses involved **
>>> ======
>>> Y.Porat
>>> ========================
>>
>> None of this answers my question. I asked you about how you know the nature
>> of space and you answered about circlons and the role of mass. Please
>> answer my question about space and how you know.
>
> =========================
> I will ask you for a simple PHYSICS!!!!! answer
> ===============================================
> WAHT ARE THE **PHYSICAL** **DIMENSIONS** OF SPACE ...
[L]^3
Now, I repeat my question to you: what genie has told you that space is
nothing and has no physical properties?
> ================================================
> BTW a minor question :
> why do you top post ?!!
I don’t top post. I post right after the comment I want to respond to
> ==========================
>
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ===================================
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the ''secret'' is again in mass !!
>>>>> iow
>>>>> gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance
>>>>> now
>>>>> beyond that range :
>>>>> --ATRACTION IS REPLACED BY REPULSION !!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> (that is as well taking in account the 'dark matter that is between masses
>>>>> =======================
>>
>
--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-04-08 16:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <355a2732-3747-4b91-90d4-47df8bd2f975@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680360 |
On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 11:36:38 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 4:56:58 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 3:09:34 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !!
> >>>>
> >>>> What genie revealed this to you?
> >>> =======================
> >>> odd
> >>> thank you for your question :
> >>>
> >>> I imagine that what I asserted above
> >>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity
> >>> knowing me as not a complete idiot..
> >>> and someone that has a creative mind for physics
> >>> so
> >>> see the y circlon mechanism again
> >>> if you remember my scheme about it
> >>> you could see that
> >>> the curved force lines there
> >>> act only for a limited distance
> >>> because they are curved with curvature directed to their ''mother mass'
> >>> if so the rang of their activity
> >>>
> >>> --IS LIMITED IN DISTANCE FROM 'MOTHER MASS '
> >>>
> >>> if do
> >>> while distance from 'mother mass becomes bigger
> >>> then there is no more attraction force !!
> >>> now
> >>> 'foreign ''masses -(say dark matter)
> >>> are intervening in bringing in their activity
> >>> that is disturbing/ and not compatible/ to the activity
> >>> (''harmony needed ( of original
> >>> attraction force of that was the
> >>> original attraction forces
> >>>
> >>> I hope I explained something that was/came to my mind
> >>> --
> >>> in short
> >>> it *starts *with the systematic y circlon mechanism
> >>> done my masses
> >>> and is ended with (if you like)chaos
> >>> between the big masses and become
> >>> repulsion between them
> >>> nothing to do with space
> >>> that has no properties except hosting mass
> >>> ie
> >>> it is always the activity 0f **masses involved **
> >>> ======
> >>> Y.Porat
> >>> ========================
> >>
> >> None of this answers my question. I asked you about how you know the nature
> >> of space and you answered about circlons and the role of mass. Please
> >> answer my question about space and how you know.
> >
> > =========================
> > I will ask you for a simple PHYSICS!!!!! answer
> > ===============================================
> > WAHT ARE THE **PHYSICAL** **DIMENSIONS** OF SPACE ...
>
> [L]^3
>
> Now, I repeat my question to you: what genie has told you that space is
> nothing and has no physical properties?
>
> > ================================================
> > BTW a minor question :
> > why do you top post ?!!
>
>
> I don’t top post. I post right after the comment I want to respond to
>
> > ==========================
> >
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ===================================
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the ''secret'' is again in mass !!
> >>>>> iow
> >>>>> gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance
> >>>>> now
> >>>>> beyond that range :
> > --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
==========================
you say that the dimension of space
is L^3
now a few questions about it :
1
that is all that you can say ** IS ** about
space ? and its dimensions
2
how you 'we - measure L^3 ?
how do you can measure it
if that that is all there ??
3
how can L^3
make FORCES AND MOMENTUM ??
====================
TIA
Y.Porat
=============================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-04-09 02:09 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <paei06$2dk$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680381 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 11:36:38 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 4:56:58 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 3:09:34 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What genie revealed this to you?
>>>>> ======================> >>> odd
>>>>> thank you for your question :
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine that what I asserted above
>>>>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity
>>>>> knowing me as not a complete idiot..
>>>>> and someone that has a creative mind for physics
>>>>> so
>>>>> see the y circlon mechanism again
>>>>> if you remember my scheme about it
>>>>> you could see that
>>>>> the curved force lines there
>>>>> act only for a limited distance
>>>>> because they are curved with curvature directed to their ''mother mass'
>>>>> if so the rang of their activity
>>>>>
>>>>> --IS LIMITED IN DISTANCE FROM 'MOTHER MASS '
>>>>>
>>>>> if do
>>>>> while distance from 'mother mass becomes bigger
>>>>> then there is no more attraction force !!
>>>>> now
>>>>> 'foreign ''masses -(say dark matter)
>>>>> are intervening in bringing in their activity
>>>>> that is disturbing/ and not compatible/ to the activity
>>>>> (''harmony needed ( of original
>>>>> attraction force of that was the
>>>>> original attraction forces
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope I explained something that was/came to my mind
>>>>> --
>>>>> in short
>>>>> it *starts *with the systematic y circlon mechanism
>>>>> done my masses
>>>>> and is ended with (if you like)chaos
>>>>> between the big masses and become
>>>>> repulsion between them
>>>>> nothing to do with space
>>>>> that has no properties except hosting mass
>>>>> ie
>>>>> it is always the activity 0f **masses involved **
>>>>> =====> >>> Y.Porat
>>>>> =======================> >>
>>>> None of this answers my question. I asked you about how you know the nature
>>>> of space and you answered about circlons and the role of mass. Please
>>>> answer my question about space and how you know.
>>>
>>> ========================> > I will ask you for a simple PHYSICS!!!!! answer
>>> ==============================================> > WAHT ARE THE **PHYSICAL**
>>> **DIMENSIONS** OF SPACE ...
>>
>> [L]^3
>>
>> Now, I repeat my question to you: what genie has told you that space is
>> nothing and has no physical properties?
>>
>>> ===============================================> > BTW a minor question :
>>> why do you top post ?!!
>>
>>
>> I dont top post. I post right after the comment I want to respond to
>>
>>> =========================> >
>>> TIA
>>> Y.Porat
>>> ===================================
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the ''secret'' is again in mass !!
>>>>>>> iow
>>>>>>> gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> beyond that range :
>>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> =========================you say that the dimension of space
> is L^3
>
> now a few questions about it :
> 1
> that is all that you can say ** IS ** about
> space ? and its dimensions
> 2
> how you 'we - measure L^3 ?
No, there is more you can say about space. You only asked about its
dimensions. Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its
dimensions.
Energy and torque have identical dimensions and ye5 they are very
different. So more to it than dimensions.
>
> how do you can measure it
> if that that is all there ??
> 3
> how can L^3
> make FORCES AND MOMENTUM ??
> ===================TIA
> Y.Porat
> ============================
--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-04-08 21:56 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <73fc3654-94a7-4ba5-b232-3179b5393517@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680398 |
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 5:09:16 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 11:36:38 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 4:56:58 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 3:09:34 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What genie revealed this to you?
> >>>>> ======================> >>> odd
> >>>>> thank you for your question :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I imagine that what I asserted above
> >>>>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity
> >>>>> knowing me as not a complete idiot..
> >>>>> and someone that has a creative mind for physics
> >>>>> so
> >>>>> see the y circlon mechanism again
> >>>>> if you remember my scheme about it
> >>>>> you could see that
> >>>>> the curved force lines there
> >>>>> act only for a limited distance
> >>>>> because they are curved with curvature directed to their ''mother mass'
> >>>>> if so the rang of their activity
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --IS LIMITED IN DISTANCE FROM 'MOTHER MASS '
> >>>>>
> >>>>> if do
> >>>>> while distance from 'mother mass becomes bigger
> >>>>> then there is no more attraction force !!
> >>>>> now
> >>>>> 'foreign ''masses -(say dark matter)
> >>>>> are intervening in bringing in their activity
> >>>>> that is disturbing/ and not compatible/ to the activity
> >>>>> (''harmony needed ( of original
> >>>>> attraction force of that was the
> >>>>> original attraction forces
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hope I explained something that was/came to my mind
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> in short
> >>>>> it *starts *with the systematic y circlon mechanism
> >>>>> done my masses
> >>>>> and is ended with (if you like)chaos
> >>>>> between the big masses and become
> >>>>> repulsion between them
> >>>>> nothing to do with space
> >>>>> that has no properties except hosting mass
> >>>>> ie
> >>>>> it is always the activity 0f **masses involved **
> >>>>> =====> >>> Y.Porat
> >>>>> =======================> >>
> >>>> None of this answers my question. I asked you about how you know the nature
> >>>> of space and you answered about circlons and the role of mass. Please
> >>>> answer my question about space and how you know.
> >>>
> >>> ========================> > I will ask you for a simple PHYSICS!!!!! answer
> >>> ==============================================> > WAHT ARE THE **PHYSICAL**
> >>> **DIMENSIONS** OF SPACE ...
> >>
> >> [L]^3
> >>
> >> Now, I repeat my question to you: what genie has told you that space is
> >> nothing and has no physical properties?
> >>
> >>> ===============================================> > BTW a minor question :
> >>> why do you top post ?!!
> >>
> >>
> >> I don t top post. I post right after the comment I want to respond to
> >>
> >>> =========================> >
> >>> TIA
> >>> Y.Porat
> >>> ===================================
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the ''secret'' is again in mass !!
> >>>>>>> iow
> >>>>>>> gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance
> >>>>>>> now
> >>>>>>> beyond that range :
> >>> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> > =========================you say that the dimension of space
> > is L^3
> >
> > now a few questions about it :
> > 1
> > that is all that you can say ** IS ** about
> > space ? and its dimensions
> > 2
> > how you 'we - measure L^3 ?
>
> No, there is more you can say about space. You only asked about its
> dimensions. Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its
> dimensions.
>=====================
Mr Smarty !!!
I WAS ASKING ABOUT EMPTY SPACE !!
AGAIN
ABOUT EMPTY (EMPTY!!!!!!!! ) SPACE
NET (NET !!!) SPACE
can I be clearer than that with my questions t !!!
and what can**** empty space **** do*** !!!!!!!
it deems that you still don't 'for read' my mind
ie
to what I am getting to ....
===
TIA
Y.Porat
===========================
> Energy and torque have identical dimensions and ye5 they are very
> different. So more to it than dimensions.
>
> >
> > how do you can measure it
> > if that that is all there ??
> > 3
> > how can L^3
> > make FORCES AND MOMENTUM ??
> > ===================TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ============================
>
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-04-09 03:13 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <9c46dbcc-873c-4c3b-8b8c-da5f4f7a5c39@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680419 |
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:56:49 AM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 5:09:16 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 11:36:38 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 4:56:58 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > >>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 3:09:34 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > >>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> What genie revealed this to you?
> > >>>>> ======================> >>> odd
> > >>>>> thank you for your question :
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I imagine that what I asserted above
> > >>>>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity
> > >>>>> knowing me as not a complete idiot..
> > >>>>> and someone that has a creative mind for physics
> > >>>>> so
> > >>>>> see the y circlon mechanism again
> > >>>>> if you remember my scheme about it
> > >>>>> you could see that
> > >>>>> the curved force lines there
> > >>>>> act only for a limited distance
> > >>>>> because they are curved with curvature directed to their ''mother mass'
> > >>>>> if so the rang of their activity
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --IS LIMITED IN DISTANCE FROM 'MOTHER MASS '
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> if do
> > >>>>> while distance from 'mother mass becomes bigger
> > >>>>> then there is no more attraction force !!
> > >>>>> now
> > >>>>> 'foreign ''masses -(say dark matter)
> > >>>>> are intervening in bringing in their activity
> > >>>>> that is disturbing/ and not compatible/ to the activity
> > >>>>> (''harmony needed ( of original
> > >>>>> attraction force of that was the
> > >>>>> original attraction forces
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I hope I explained something that was/came to my mind
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> in short
> > >>>>> it *starts *with the systematic y circlon mechanism
> > >>>>> done my masses
> > >>>>> and is ended with (if you like)chaos
> > >>>>> between the big masses and become
> > >>>>> repulsion between them
> > >>>>> nothing to do with space
> > >>>>> that has no properties except hosting mass
> > >>>>> ie
> > >>>>> it is always the activity 0f **masses involved **
> > >>>>> =====> >>> Y.Porat
> > >>>>> =======================> >>
> > >>>> None of this answers my question. I asked you about how you know the nature
> > >>>> of space and you answered about circlons and the role of mass. Please
> > >>>> answer my question about space and how you know.
> > >>>
> > >>> ========================> > I will ask you for a simple PHYSICS!!!!! answer
> > >>> ==============================================> > WAHT ARE THE **PHYSICAL**
> > >>> **DIMENSIONS** OF SPACE ...
> > >>
> > >> [L]^3
> > >>
> > >> Now, I repeat my question to you: what genie has told you that space is
> > >> nothing and has no physical properties?
> > >>
> > >>> ===============================================> > BTW a minor question :
> > >>> why do you top post ?!!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I don t top post. I post right after the comment I want to respond to
> > >>
> > >>> =========================> >
> > >>> TIA
> > >>> Y.Porat
> > >>> ===================================
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> the ''secret'' is again in mass !!
> > >>>>>>> iow
> > >>>>>>> gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance
> > >>>>>>> now
> > >>>>>>> beyond that range :
> > >>> --
> > >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> > >
> > > =========================you say that the dimension of space
> > > is L^3
> > >
> > > now a few questions about it :
> > > 1
> > > that is all that you can say ** IS ** about
> > > space ? and its dimensions
> > > 2
> > > how you 'we - measure L^3 ?
> >
> > No, there is more you can say about space. You only asked about its
> > dimensions. Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its
> > dimensions.
> >=====================
> Mr Smarty !!!
>
> I WAS ASKING ABOUT EMPTY SPACE !!
> AGAIN
> ABOUT EMPTY (EMPTY!!!!!!!! ) SPACE
> NET (NET !!!) SPACE
> can I be clearer than that with my questions t !!!
>
> and what can**** empty space **** do*** !!!!!!!
> it deems that you still don't 'for read' my mind
> ie
> to what I am getting to ....
> ===
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ===========================
>
>
>
>
> > Energy and torque have identical dimensions and ye5 they are very
> > different. So more to it than dimensions.
> >
> > >
> > > how do you can measure it
> > > if that that is all there ??
> > > 3
> > > how can L^3
> > > make FORCES AND MOMENTUM ??
> > > ===================TIA
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ============================
so ??
Bodkin
what is in your mind??
did you understand what I have to say
considering my above assertions ??)
or may be you need some more explanations ??
===
TIA
Y.Porat
========================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-04-09 11:13 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <pafhsa$1le1$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680426 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:56:49 AM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 5:09:16 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 11:36:38 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 4:56:58 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 3:09:34 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What genie revealed this to you?
>>>>>>>> ======================> >>> odd
>>>>>>>> thank you for your question :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I imagine that what I asserted above
>>>>>>>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity
>>>>>>>> knowing me as not a complete idiot..
>>>>>>>> and someone that has a creative mind for physics
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> see the y circlon mechanism again
>>>>>>>> if you remember my scheme about it
>>>>>>>> you could see that
>>>>>>>> the curved force lines there
>>>>>>>> act only for a limited distance
>>>>>>>> because they are curved with curvature directed to their ''mother mass'
>>>>>>>> if so the rang of their activity
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --IS LIMITED IN DISTANCE FROM 'MOTHER MASS '
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if do
>>>>>>>> while distance from 'mother mass becomes bigger
>>>>>>>> then there is no more attraction force !!
>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>> 'foreign ''masses -(say dark matter)
>>>>>>>> are intervening in bringing in their activity
>>>>>>>> that is disturbing/ and not compatible/ to the activity
>>>>>>>> (''harmony needed ( of original
>>>>>>>> attraction force of that was the
>>>>>>>> original attraction forces
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope I explained something that was/came to my mind
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> in short
>>>>>>>> it *starts *with the systematic y circlon mechanism
>>>>>>>> done my masses
>>>>>>>> and is ended with (if you like)chaos
>>>>>>>> between the big masses and become
>>>>>>>> repulsion between them
>>>>>>>> nothing to do with space
>>>>>>>> that has no properties except hosting mass
>>>>>>>> ie
>>>>>>>> it is always the activity 0f **masses involved **
>>>>>>>> =====> >>> Y.Porat
>>>>>>>> =======================> >>
>>>>>>> None of this answers my question. I asked you about how you know the nature
>>>>>>> of space and you answered about circlons and the role of mass. Please
>>>>>>> answer my question about space and how you know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ========================> > I will ask you for a simple PHYSICS!!!!! answer
>>>>>> ==============================================> > WAHT ARE THE **PHYSICAL**
>>>>>> **DIMENSIONS** OF SPACE ...
>>>>>
>>>>> [L]^3
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, I repeat my question to you: what genie has told you that space is
>>>>> nothing and has no physical properties?
>>>>>
>>>>>> ===============================================> > BTW a minor question :
>>>>>> why do you top post ?!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don t top post. I post right after the comment I want to respond to
>>>>>
>>>>>> =========================> >
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>>> ===================================
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the ''secret'' is again in mass !!
>>>>>>>>>> iow
>>>>>>>>>> gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance
>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>> beyond that range :
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>
>>>> =========================you say that the dimension of space
>>>> is L^3
>>>>
>>>> now a few questions about it :
>>>> 1
>>>> that is all that you can say ** IS ** about
>>>> space ? and its dimensions
>>>> 2
>>>> how you 'we - measure L^3 ?
>>>
>>> No, there is more you can say about space. You only asked about its
>>> dimensions. Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its
>>> dimensions.
>>> =====================
>> Mr Smarty !!!
>>
>> I WAS ASKING ABOUT EMPTY SPACE !!
>> AGAIN
>> ABOUT EMPTY (EMPTY!!!!!!!! ) SPACE
>> NET (NET !!!) SPACE
>> can I be clearer than that with my questions t !!!
>>
>> and what can**** empty space **** do*** !!!!!!!
>> it deems that you still don't 'for read' my mind
>> ie
>> to what I am getting to ....
>> ===
>> TIA
>> Y.Porat
>> ===========================
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Energy and torque have identical dimensions and ye5 they are very
>>> different. So more to it than dimensions.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> how do you can measure it
>>>> if that that is all there ??
>>>> 3
>>>> how can L^3
>>>> make FORCES AND MOMENTUM ??
>>>> ===================TIA
>>>> Y.Porat
>>>> ============================
>
> so ??
> Bodkin
> what is in your mind??
> did you understand what I have to say
> considering my above assertions ??)
> or may be you need some more explanations ??
How about you answer my direct and simple question?
> ===
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ========================
>
>
>
--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-04-09 11:13 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <pafhs7$1le1$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680419 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 5:09:16 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 11:36:38 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 4:56:58 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 3:09:34 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What genie revealed this to you?
>>>>>>> ======================> >>> odd
>>>>>>> thank you for your question :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I imagine that what I asserted above
>>>>>>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity
>>>>>>> knowing me as not a complete idiot..
>>>>>>> and someone that has a creative mind for physics
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> see the y circlon mechanism again
>>>>>>> if you remember my scheme about it
>>>>>>> you could see that
>>>>>>> the curved force lines there
>>>>>>> act only for a limited distance
>>>>>>> because they are curved with curvature directed to their ''mother mass'
>>>>>>> if so the rang of their activity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --IS LIMITED IN DISTANCE FROM 'MOTHER MASS '
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if do
>>>>>>> while distance from 'mother mass becomes bigger
>>>>>>> then there is no more attraction force !!
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> 'foreign ''masses -(say dark matter)
>>>>>>> are intervening in bringing in their activity
>>>>>>> that is disturbing/ and not compatible/ to the activity
>>>>>>> (''harmony needed ( of original
>>>>>>> attraction force of that was the
>>>>>>> original attraction forces
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope I explained something that was/came to my mind
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> in short
>>>>>>> it *starts *with the systematic y circlon mechanism
>>>>>>> done my masses
>>>>>>> and is ended with (if you like)chaos
>>>>>>> between the big masses and become
>>>>>>> repulsion between them
>>>>>>> nothing to do with space
>>>>>>> that has no properties except hosting mass
>>>>>>> ie
>>>>>>> it is always the activity 0f **masses involved **
>>>>>>> =====> >>> Y.Porat
>>>>>>> =======================> >>
>>>>>> None of this answers my question. I asked you about how you know the nature
>>>>>> of space and you answered about circlons and the role of mass. Please
>>>>>> answer my question about space and how you know.
>>>>>
>>>>> ========================> > I will ask you for a simple PHYSICS!!!!! answer
>>>>> ==============================================> > WAHT ARE THE **PHYSICAL**
>>>>> **DIMENSIONS** OF SPACE ...
>>>>
>>>> [L]^3
>>>>
>>>> Now, I repeat my question to you: what genie has told you that space is
>>>> nothing and has no physical properties?
>>>>
>>>>> ===============================================> > BTW a minor question :
>>>>> why do you top post ?!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don t top post. I post right after the comment I want to respond to
>>>>
>>>>> =========================> >
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>> ===================================
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the ''secret'' is again in mass !!
>>>>>>>>> iow
>>>>>>>>> gravitation between masses is only inside some range of distance
>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>> beyond that range :
>>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>> =========================you say that the dimension of space
>>> is L^3
>>>
>>> now a few questions about it :
>>> 1
>>> that is all that you can say ** IS ** about
>>> space ? and its dimensions
>>> 2
>>> how you 'we - measure L^3 ?
>>
>> No, there is more you can say about space. You only asked about its
>> dimensions. Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its
>> dimensions.
>> =====================
> Mr Smarty !!!
>
> I WAS ASKING ABOUT EMPTY SPACE !!
Yes. Empt6 space has properties, other than just dimensions.
So I ask you again.
> AGAIN
> ABOUT EMPTY (EMPTY!!!!!!!! ) SPACE
> NET (NET !!!) SPACE
> can I be clearer than that with my questions t !!!
>
> and what can**** empty space **** do*** !!!!!!!
> it deems that you still don't 'for read' my mind
> ie
> to what I am getting to ....
> ===
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ===========================
>
>
>
>
>> Energy and torque have identical dimensions and ye5 they are very
>> different. So more to it than dimensions.
>>
>>>
>>> how do you can measure it
>>> if that that is all there ??
>>> 3
>>> how can L^3
>>> make FORCES AND MOMENTUM ??
>>> ===================TIA
>>> Y.Porat
>>> ============================
>>
>
>
--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-09 05:26 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <81db2241-5471-41ec-84fe-0cb37beb8445@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680428 |
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 2:13:17 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 5:09:16 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 11:36:38 PM UTC+3, Of > >>>>>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> What genie revealed this to you? > >>>>>>> ======================> >>> odd > >>>>>>> thank you for your question : > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I imagine that what I asserted above > >>>>>>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity > >>>>>>> knowing me as not a complete idiot.. > >>>>>>> and someone that has >>>>> -- > >>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > >>> > >>> =========================you say that the dimension of space > >>> is L^3 > >>> > >>> now a few questions about it : > >>> 1 > >>> that is all that you can say ** IS ** about > >>> space ? and its dimensions > >>> 2 > >>> how you 'we - measure L^3 ? > >> > >> No, there is more you can say about space. You only asked about its > >> dimensions. Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its > >> dimensions. > >> ===================== > > Mr Smarty !!! > > > > I WAS ASKING ABOUT EMPTY SPACE !! > > Yes. Empt6 space has properties, other than just dimensions. =================================== (:-) ok lets hear about the PHYSICAL properties of **EMPY!!!!! SPACE'!!!! OTHER THAN DIMENSIONS ================================ TIA Y.Porat ======================= > ====== > >> Energy and torque have identical dimensions and ye5 they are very > >> different. So more to it than dimensions. > >> > >>> > >>> how do you can measure it > >>> if that that is all there ?? > >>> 3 > >>> how can L^3 > >>> make FORCES AND MOMENTUM ?? > >>> ===================TIA > >>> Y.Porat
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-09 17:35 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <pag89t$11he$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680430 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 2:13:17 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 5:09:16 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 11:36:38 PM UTC+3, Of > >>>>>>>> >>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What genie revealed this to you? >>>>>>>>> ======================> >>> odd >>>>>>>>> thank you for your question : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I imagine that what I asserted above >>>>>>>>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity >>>>>>>>> knowing me as not a complete idiot.. >>>>>>>>> and someone that has >>>>> -- >>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>>>> >>>>> =========================you say that the dimension of space >>>>> is L^3 >>>>> >>>>> now a few questions about it : >>>>> 1 >>>>> that is all that you can say ** IS ** about >>>>> space ? and its dimensions >>>>> 2 >>>>> how you 'we - measure L^3 ? >>>> >>>> No, there is more you can say about space. You only asked about its >>>> dimensions. Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its >>>> dimensions. >>>> ===================== >>> Mr Smarty !!! >>> >>> I WAS ASKING ABOUT EMPTY SPACE !! >> > >> Yes. Empt6 space has properties, other than just dimensions. > > > =================================== > (:-) > ok lets hear about the PHYSICAL properties of > **EMPY!!!!! SPACE'!!!! > OTHER THAN DIMENSIONS You’re kidding, right? Permittivity, permeability, impedance, electric field strength, magnetic field strength, electromagnetic energy density. And that’s just for one sector of physical properties. All associated with any region of EMPTY space. Haven’t even gotten into the catalog of other properties in other sectors. Physical properties have so much more than just dimensions. > ================================ > TIA > Y.Porat > ======================= >> ====== > > > > >>>> Energy and torque have identical dimensions and ye5 they are very >>>> different. So more to it than dimensions. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> how do you can measure it >>>>> if that that is all there ?? >>>>> 3 >>>>> how can L^3 >>>>> make FORCES AND MOMENTUM ?? >>>>> ===================TIA >>>>> Y.Porat > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-09 11:22 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <ac5aeda6-326c-4495-82f7-883cd55c96b1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680467 |
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:36:02 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 2:13:17 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 5:09:16 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 11:36:38 PM UTC+3, Of > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> space is nothing -and can not ''do' anything !! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> What genie revealed this to you? > >>>>>>>>> ======================> >>> odd > >>>>>>>>> thank you for your question : > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I imagine that what I asserted above > >>>>>>>>> was moving something in you intuitive curiosity > >>>>>>>>> knowing me as not a complete idiot.. > >>>>>>>>> and someone that has >>>>> -- > >>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > >>>>> > >>>>> =========================you say that the dimension of space > >>>>> is L^3 > >>>>> > >>>>> now a few questions about it : > >>>>> 1 > >>>>> that is all that you can say ** IS ** about > >>>>> space ? and its dimensions > >>>>> 2 > >>>>> how you 'we - measure L^3 ? > >>>> > >>>> No, there is more you can say about space. You only asked about its > >>>> dimensions. Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its > >>>> dimensions. > >>>> ===================== > >>> Mr Smarty !!! > >>> > >>> I WAS ASKING ABOUT EMPTY SPACE !! > >> > > > >> Yes. Empt6 space has properties, other than just dimensions. > > > > > > =================================== > > (:-) > > ok lets hear about the PHYSICAL properties of > > **EMPY!!!!! SPACE'!!!! > > OTHER THAN DIMENSIONS > > > You’re kidding, right? > > Permittivity, permeability, impedance, electric field strength, ==================================== Hey odd LET US SEE WHO IS KIDDING before you detect electric field strength YOU HAVE TO DETECT THE ELECTRIC FOILD !!!!! DOES IT HAVE NO PHYSICAL DIMENTIOMS ???? ]] magnetic > field strength, electromagnetic energy density AS ABOVE !! no physics dimensions ? . And that’s just for one > sector of physical properties. All associated with any region of EMPTY the magnitudes of properties = hey odd the magnitude is not the the physical phenomenon is associated with the physics entity that is associated with the physical phenomenon ! if you have a ****lot** of money that is as well a physics ***science** phenomenon ??!! == why not you cant call the say' ***great** curiosity' of the man how makes a physical experiment as a''' sci /physics phenomenon 2 while you say permeability'' it IS ALWAYS *ASCOCLATED WITH PERMEABILITY OF WAHT ???!! WAHT PHYSICAL ***ENTITY ?? AND INOUR NG WE RTY TO DEAL TALK ABOUT **PHYSICAL ENTITIES !! PHYSICS ENETITES AGAIN **ENTITIES !!!!! you don't ??? = so why not call the belly ake of a physics sci phenomenon > space. > > Haven’t even gotten into the catalog of other properties in other sectors. > > Physical properties ======== not properties !!!! -- PHYSICS entities ENTITIES !!!!before properties or else you are ***floating*** in the air (next day you will talk to me about the price of one kilogram of iron... ) or the ** density**of the porridge you ate yesterday. ''that has no 'physics dimensions''''. ======= TIA Y.Porat =====================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-09 11:31 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <05580bd2-2262-4779-9bb3-5dc7de823171@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680476 |
Odd " Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its dimensions. " Matter of fact, Odd believes in particles with no physical dimensions, at all!! Btw, Odd, why would you call Space 'empty' if it's full of properties? Does 'nothing' have properties? Lots of woodworking these days?
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-04-09 18:41 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <pagc57$sa4$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #680479 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >" > Not every property of a physical thing is derived from its >dimensions. >" >Matter of fact, Odd believes in particles with no physical dimensions, at all!! So tell us, why we need nonzero dimensions to show something has an electrical charge or some other property without physical length/area/volume?? >Btw, Odd, why would you call Space 'empty' if it's full of properties? Does >'nothing' have properties? >Lots of woodworking these days? If I have a bottle with the property of containing water in its empty inside, does it need water inside it in order to have the property of holding water? I am just trying to figure out your illogical 'logic'.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-09 11:47 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <83a03d1b-50d6-4cfd-becb-713089c0bedc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680485 |
MM " If I have a bottle with the property of containing water in its empty inside, does it need water inside it in order to have the property of holding water? I am just trying to figure out your illogical 'logic'. " No, you're trying to justify particles with no volume. Good luck with that.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-04-09 18:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <pagd44$m6q$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #680488 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >" >If I have a bottle with the property of containing water in its empty inside, >does it need water inside it in order to have the property of holding water? >I am just trying to figure out your illogical 'logic'. " >No, you're trying to justify particles with no volume. >Good luck with that. What is there to justify? Again, I am just trying to figure out your illogical 'logic' that seems to have a need to 'justify' this. (plus other bizarre concepts you consider 'logical')
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-09 12:48 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IT IS NOTR THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING it is something diffferent !! |
| Message-ID | <2d441af5-d6f8-4b0d-a46d-b086aed5f098@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680489 |
MM "What is there to justify? " Apparently, nothing. Your 'Science' is so scattered at this point, that it's grasping at anything. Sad.
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