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| First post | 2018-03-21 16:32 -0700 |
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When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-21 16:32 -0700
When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 09:22 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-23 14:40 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 06:26 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 17:47 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 13:47 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 14:24 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-25 03:33 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 06:18 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 07:00 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 08:14 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-25 09:56 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 10:10 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 19:32 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-25 17:52 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 11:41 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 00:48 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 07:31 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 10:51 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 18:41 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 12:53 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 13:09 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 20:45 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 14:58 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-27 11:57 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 11:25 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 06:46 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 18:04 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 11:12 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-27 18:56 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 19:26 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-27 12:35 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 12:41 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 22:49 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 16:35 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 01:58 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 05:31 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-28 12:50 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 06:14 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 16:07 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-28 06:15 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 16:07 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 10:44 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 18:01 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 11:33 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 11:53 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 12:07 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 21:42 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 06:50 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 14:43 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 14:51 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:39 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-29 17:10 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 17:21 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 16:19 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 16:29 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 18:00 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 14:11 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 12:34 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-31 19:43 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 13:05 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 23:37 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-30 16:54 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 17:07 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-30 20:16 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-31 02:38 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 07:18 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-31 17:58 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 21:54 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 15:14 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-31 15:42 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-01 00:40 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 18:05 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-31 21:23 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-01 16:31 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-29 17:03 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:58 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 21:42 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-29 23:51 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:56 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 21:42 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-27 21:03 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 10:48 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-28 19:17 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 16:13 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:48 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 20:42 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-26 21:33 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-25 11:41 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 19:32 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 19:32 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-25 21:03 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 22:32 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-24 22:11 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-23 23:24 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-23 23:26 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 17:02 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-25 17:13 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 19:13 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-27 21:21 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-27 22:06 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-27 23:46 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-25 18:25 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 13:15 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-29 14:21 -0700
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-30 13:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <183cd048-7b36-4c6d-9dfb-9bbbd3ab3d7a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #679120 |
Odd "- show quoted text - I’m glad YOU are going to stop pissing and moaning there’s no model. " There's a model. Mine. Yours wouldn't know what to think about a billion year cosmic year for spirals. By the way, all ellipticals are now realized to be spirals.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-30 23:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9mho8$1c5h$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #679180 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > "- show quoted text - > I’m glad YOU are going to stop pissing and moaning there’s no model. " > > There's a model. > Mine. Not just yours. > > Yours wouldn't know what to think about a billion year cosmic year for spirals. > > By the way, all ellipticals are now realized to be spirals. By whom? > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-03-30 16:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ff5ac6f7-73fe-4ed7-a9aa-21a7a389d2a7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #679180 |
On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-7, john wrote: > By the way, all ellipticals are now realized to be spirals. That is complete bullshit, John, which you made up on-the-fly... http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/research/gr/public/gal_class.html "The classification of galaxies due to Hubble (1925) remains the most popular in use today. There are two main categories, the spiral and elliptical galaxies..."
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-30 17:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3afa038a-aa08-4a6f-995b-9d3ac0afb3e3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #679197 |
On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 4:54:11 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-7, john wrote: > > > By the way, all ellipticals are now realized to be spirals. > > That is complete bullshit, John, which you made up on-the-fly... > > http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/research/gr/public/gal_class.html > > "The classification of galaxies due to Hubble (1925) remains the most popular in use today. There are two main categories, the spiral and elliptical galaxies..." Wow, Penal Implant actually quoted something. Amazing!
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-03-30 20:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9b14698d-579d-43a2-9002-4b3bede6d644@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #679198 |
On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 5:07:44 PM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote: > On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 4:54:11 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-7, john wrote: > > > > > By the way, all ellipticals are now realized to be spirals. > > > > That is complete bullshit, John, which you made up on-the-fly... > > > > http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/research/gr/public/gal_class.html > > > > "The classification of galaxies due to Hubble (1925) remains the most popular in use today. There are two main categories, the spiral and elliptical galaxies..." > > Wow, Penal Implant actually quoted something. Amazing! And you, Jim, have *never* quoted a single link supporting your own really stupid theories, because, well, they are really stupid and unsupportable! Zero evidence, zero observations and zero experiments. What else can be expected from a jerk with zero brains!
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-03-31 02:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9msc1$mtl$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #679180 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >There's a model. >Mine. What you've shown us so far doesn't qualify as a model with falsifiable predictions. >By the way, all ellipticals are now realized to be spirals. What, is today "Make Up a Fact Day" or something?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-31 07:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cded05e3-f43b-4d11-81b4-4ab9a6374445@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #679204 |
MM " >By the way, all ellipticals are now realized to be spirals. What, is today "Make Up a Fact Day" or something? " I just notice dots that connect because I get the picture. This is a new dot.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-03-31 17:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9oi90$ij9$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #679234 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >" >>By the way, all ellipticals are now realized to be spirals. >What, is today "Make Up a Fact Day" or something? " >I just notice dots that connect >because I get the picture. >This is a new dot. So yesterday really *was* Make Up a Fact Day for you! You invented a new "fact" that elliptical galaxies are really spirals. Not from any actual data, but because saying so happens to look like a new dot to you. You also used the passive voice, "are now realized", implying (but not actually saying) that some group of people realized that, when actually, it's only you. If this was a real fact, you could say "Look at galaxy XYZ and galaxy ABC. They were considered ellipticals but new measurements show that they are spirals." But you can't. It's not a fact. Maybe you can't tell the difference between reality and some idea that pops into your mind? So "elliptical galaxies are really spirals" popped into your mind and became real to you? That's delusional thinking, a symptom of mental illnesses. If so, there's probably a connection to your spinny thing OCD as well.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-31 21:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9p037$145h$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #679234 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > MM > " > >> By the way, all ellipticals are now realized to be spirals. > > What, is today "Make Up a Fact Day" or something? " > > I just notice dots that connect > because I get the picture. > This is a new dot. > This is sometimes known as a hallucination driven by wishes. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-31 15:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1f08d9fb-7c00-4a84-90d7-af20211474a5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #679285 |
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110714101631.htm "University of Oxford Summary: The majority of 'elliptical' galaxies are not spherical but disc-shaped, resembling spiral galaxies such as our own Milky Way with the gas and dust removed, new observations suggest."
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-03-31 15:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f4f08668-e63f-45cb-b949-31c50a7ec6fc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #679287 |
On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 3:14:44 PM UTC-7, john wrote: > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110714101631.htm > "University of Oxford > Summary: > The majority of 'elliptical' galaxies are not spherical but disc-shaped, resembling spiral galaxies such as our own Milky Way with the gas and dust removed, new observations suggest." It is an interesting paper, John, and will undoubtedly lead to modified theories about the formation of galaxies... but it no way calls for your statement... "all ellipticals are now realized to be spirals" because that simply is not true. There are still significant differences between spiral and elliptical galaxies...
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-01 00:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9p9pb$1h2e$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #679290 |
<pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote: > On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 3:14:44 PM UTC-7, john wrote: >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110714101631.htm >> "University of Oxford >> Summary: >> The majority of 'elliptical' galaxies are not spherical but disc-shaped, >> resembling spiral galaxies such as our own Milky Way with the gas and >> dust removed, new observations suggest." > > It is an interesting paper, John, and will undoubtedly lead to modified > theories about the formation of galaxies... but it no way calls for your > statement... "all ellipticals are now realized to be spirals" because > that simply is not true. There are still significant differences between > spiral and elliptical galaxies... > > Ellipticals are classed E1-E7 according to their oblateness. All that’s been determined is that their are more in the oblate category than previously thought. Ellipticals, even disk-like ones, don’t have spiral arms, and they don’t have the high dust density that spiral galaxies have, and they don’t have a high population of young stairs like spirals have. John saw “disk” and the rest was stuff his fervor just wanted to see. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-31 18:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <187aeacf-1f81-4e0e-887b-196a18900980@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #679319 |
Odd "'According to our survey only a small fraction of elliptical galaxies, the 'slow rotators', are genuine spheroids. It reveals a strong family resemblance between elliptical and spiral galaxies once we can adjust for whether we are seeing them face-on or from the side,' said Dr Cappellari. 'This close relationship will need to be considered in any future models of how galaxies form. It's an exciting moment, after four years of work in the project, we have the final piece of the puzzle which enables us to say that text-books used to teach astronomy for over 70 years now need to be revised.'" But Odd says no. Odd always says no
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-03-31 21:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c5d13e2b-d834-45f0-83a9-bfbaacab9f03@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #679325 |
On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 6:05:27 PM UTC-7, john wrote: > Odd > "'According to our survey only a small fraction of elliptical galaxies, the 'slow rotators', are genuine spheroids. It reveals a strong family resemblance between elliptical and spiral galaxies once we can adjust for whether we are seeing them face-on or from the side,' said Dr Cappellari. 'This close relationship will need to be considered in any future models of how galaxies form. It's an exciting moment, after four years of work in the project, we have the final piece of the puzzle which enables us to say that text-books used to teach astronomy for over 70 years now need to be revised.'" > But Odd says no. Odd always says no You are making this up, John, because Odd did NOT say no. You just *want* him to say no...
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-01 16:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9r1gs$9u$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #679325 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > "'According to our survey only a small fraction of elliptical galaxies, > the 'slow rotators', are genuine spheroids. It reveals a strong family > resemblance between elliptical and spiral galaxies once we can adjust for > whether we are seeing them face-on or from the side,' said Dr Cappellari. > 'This close relationship will need to be considered in any future models > of how galaxies form. It's an exciting moment, after four years of work > in the project, we have the final piece of the puzzle which enables us to > say that text-books used to teach astronomy for over 70 years now need to be revised.'" > But Odd says no. Odd always says no > I didn’t say no. Everything said above is consistent with what I said. E7 ellipticals are very flat, but they are not spirals and are distinct from Sa classification. Look up the difference. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-03-29 17:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9j692$aun$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #678888 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >" >That is a lie. There is a model. You deny it, just because you can't >understand it. Your stance is, 'it doesn't exist unless it'" >Draw it. That won't help with science models. Some is unnecessary since the math explains it. Some of it can't be drawn. Much of particle physics is like that, it's all math. How do you draw SU(3)? Sure, you can draw the "Eightfold Way" baryon octet and spin 3/2 baryon decuplet, but that's just a tiny part and it is not nearly enough to understand SU(3).
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-29 09:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <de9a645c-66ff-446f-bfdc-98b3628e5200@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678788 |
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:07:33 PM UTC-4, john wrote: > OddpnalMM > You guys have no model. All you have is a vague picture in your head. > You'll never know which data is significant. And it doesn't matter because you ignore the data. [] Language please > > Have a nice day ed Always. Ed
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-28 21:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9h28b$9t8$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #678783 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd, MM, Pnal > If you had a picture, you could look at data and connect the dots. I can connect dots with data and without a picture. It is YOU and ONLY YOU here that needs a picture to connect the dots. No one in science owes it to you to explain things in a picture just because that’s the only thing you can understand! What about this do you find unacceptable? > > You reject a physical picture. That's like being wilfully blind. No. It is not NECESSARY. YOU need it. That’s YOUR problem. > > You'll never recognize 'dots' like double layered halo, asymmetrical > GRCs, billion-year disc periods and be able to see any significance. Data is lost on you. > It's all Greek to you. > > Taught to be anti-logical, I guess. Logic =/= picture. > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-03-29 23:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <77ce053d-e2d3-477d-b18d-6cfbbe356ffd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678812 |
On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 12:42:40 AM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > > Odd, MM, Pnal > > If you had a picture, you could look at data and connect the dots. > > I can connect dots with data and without a picture. It is YOU and ONLY YOU > here that needs a picture to connect the dots. No one in science owes it to > you to explain things in a picture just because that’s the only thing you > can understand! What about this do you find unacceptable? > > > > > You reject a physical picture. That's like being wilfully blind. > > No. It is not NECESSARY. YOU need it. That’s YOUR problem. > > > > > You'll never recognize 'dots' like double layered halo, asymmetrical > > GRCs, billion-year disc periods and be able to see any significance. Data is lost on you. > > It's all Greek to you. > > > > Taught to be anti-logical, I guess. > > Logic =/= picture. >================================ no dots and no schmots' see THE HELIX MODEL FOR THE PHOTON it explains the wavy 'sinusoidal'/cosinusoidal character of it it explains its movement in a straight line it explains why it is kept the same and not dispersing sideways and keeps its structure million light years along !! in shirt see the Y Circlon and they circlon mechanism as well MATTER MAKER ENERGY MAKER including all the m k s dimensions etc etc === TIA Y.Porat =================
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-29 09:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <aae4cd71-8dbb-4fc6-b641-efbc5ee9d944@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678783 |
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 2:53:44 PM UTC-4, john wrote:
> Odd, MM, Pnal
> If you had a picture, you could look at data and connect the dots.
>
> You reject a physical picture. That's like being wilfully blind.
We have pointed out pictures for you,
but you refuse to view or understand them.
>
> You'll never recognize 'dots' like double layered halo,
> asymmetrical GRCs, billion-year disc periods and be able
> to see any significance. Data is lost on you.
LOL, you trying to claim you understand the data.
> It's all Greek to you.
Sigma eta lambda lambda upsilon
beta omicron upsilon
8^)
>
> Taught to be anti-logical, I guess.
tau to you to.
Ed
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