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Dark Matter?

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2018-03-27 23:48 -0700
Last post2018-03-30 08:09 +0100
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  Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-27 23:48 -0700
    Re:Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-28 14:47 +0200
      Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-28 10:04 -0700
        Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-28 10:17 -0700
        Re: Dark Matter? Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-28 13:23 -0700
          Re: Dark Matter? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-29 03:04 +0200
        Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 07:04 +0200
          Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-29 20:38 -0700
            Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-30 08:49 +0200
              Re: Dark Matter? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 10:04 -0700
                Re: Dark Matter? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-30 12:33 -0700
              Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-30 10:50 -0700
      Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-28 15:12 -0700
        Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-28 15:53 -0700
          Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 06:47 +0200
            Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-28 23:35 -0700
              Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 08:51 +0200
            Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-29 18:09 -0700
              Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-30 03:43 +0200
                Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-29 20:42 -0700
                  Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-30 08:53 +0200
                    Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-30 10:30 -0700
        Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 06:46 +0200
          Re: Dark Matter? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 12:46 -0700
            Re: Dark Matter? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-29 14:35 -0700
      Re:Dark Matter? Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> - 2018-03-29 19:09 +0000
        Re:Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 21:21 +0200
          Re:Dark Matter? Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> - 2018-03-29 19:44 +0000
            Re:Dark Matter? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-29 21:54 +0200
          The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-03-29 13:09 -0700
            Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-03-29 18:04 -0400
              Most everything at WikiPedia is -WELL SOURCED-. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-03-29 16:10 -0700
    Re: Dark Matter? Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> - 2018-03-29 18:54 +0000
      Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 21:27 +0200
    Re: Dark Matter? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 21:53 -0700
    Re: Dark Matter? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 08:09 +0100

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#679107

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-03-30 08:53 +0200
Message-ID<p9kmsn$ubu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#679099
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
> Libor Striz wrote:
>> 
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>> > Libor Striz wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>> >> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Libor Striz wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>> >> >> > > What color is...Dark Matter?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > According to my observation...
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > it is darker than Blue.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > Dark matter is misname.
>> >> >> > Hidden  matter is more exact.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What is dark absorbs light, like a dark object.
>> >> >> > Dark matter does not absorb light.
>> >> >> > Neither reflects light.
>> >> >> > Neither refracts light.
>> >> >> > Neither disperges light.
>> >> >> > It does not interact with light,  but via gravity.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What does not interact with light is not dark.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > But, it can be a transparent foreground on a dark background.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You mean like what a fish sees...
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course, the universe of the fishes is the color...blue.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> With 2.7K, hardly blue.
>> >
>> >
>> > Even from millions of miles away, it still looks like a blue dot...
>> >
>> > that's a little more than 2.k
>> >
>> Not even 5800 K looks blue.
>> Universe is not the sky.
>> 
> 
> You never heard of the...night sky????
> 

You never heard about atmospherical effects ?

Deep universe has radiation temperature 2.7 K.

The night sky does not, as it is polluted by scattered light.
-- 
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#679164

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-03-30 10:30 -0700
Message-ID<5ABE7451.4814@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#679107
Libor Striz wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
> > Libor Striz wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
> >> > Libor Striz wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
> >> >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Libor Striz wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
> >> >> >> > > What color is...Dark Matter?
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > According to my observation...
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > it is darker than Blue.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > Dark matter is misname.
> >> >> >> > Hidden  matter is more exact.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > What is dark absorbs light, like a dark object.
> >> >> >> > Dark matter does not absorb light.
> >> >> >> > Neither reflects light.
> >> >> >> > Neither refracts light.
> >> >> >> > Neither disperges light.
> >> >> >> > It does not interact with light,  but via gravity.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > What does not interact with light is not dark.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > But, it can be a transparent foreground on a dark background.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You mean like what a fish sees...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Of course, the universe of the fishes is the color...blue.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> With 2.7K, hardly blue.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Even from millions of miles away, it still looks like a blue dot...
> >> >
> >> > that's a little more than 2.k
> >> >
> >> Not even 5800 K looks blue.
> >> Universe is not the sky.
> >>
> >
> > You never heard of the...night sky????
> >
> 
> You never heard about atmospherical effects ?
> 
> Deep universe has radiation temperature 2.7 K.
> 
> The night sky does not, as it is polluted by scattered light.


Scattered night is not harmful or poisinous to the universe...there is
no pollusion in the universe of scattered light.


It's ...'phony talk'.

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#678864

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-03-29 06:46 +0200
Message-ID<p9hr35$6eh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#678817
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
> Libor Striz wrote:
>> 
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>> > What color is...Dark Matter?
>> >
>> >
>> > According to my observation...
>> >
>> > it is darker than Blue.
>> >
>> Dark matter is misname.
>> Hidden  matter is more exact.
>> 
>> What is dark absorbs light, like a dark object.
>> Dark matter does not absorb light.
>> Neither reflects light.
>> Neither refracts light.
>> Neither disperges light.
>> It does not interact with light,  but via gravity.
>> 
>> What does not interact with light is not dark.
>> 
>> But, it can be a transparent foreground on a dark background.
> 
> 
> You mean like what a fish sees...
> 

If you mean dark matter is white with white background and black
 with black  background, then yes.

By other words, DM is like a PNG file with 100% transparency.

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#679023

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-03-29 12:46 -0700
Message-ID<9a033b2b-9724-477d-80e8-4a3da7332c2c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#678864
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 9:46:31 PM UTC-7, Libor Striz wrote:
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
> > Libor Striz wrote:
> >> 
> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
> >> > What color is...Dark Matter?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > According to my observation...
> >> >
> >> > it is darker than Blue.
> >> >
> >> Dark matter is misname.
> >> Hidden  matter is more exact.
> >> 
> >> What is dark absorbs light, like a dark object.
> >> Dark matter does not absorb light.
> >> Neither reflects light.
> >> Neither refracts light.
> >> Neither disperges light.
> >> It does not interact with light,  but via gravity.
> >> 
> >> What does not interact with light is not dark.
> >> 
> >> But, it can be a transparent foreground on a dark background.
> > 
> > 
> > You mean like what a fish sees...
> > 
> 
> If you mean dark matter is white with white background and black
>  with black  background, then yes.
> 
> By other words, DM is like a PNG file with 100% transparency.
> 
> -- 
> Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)
> 
> 
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DM no DE yes.Will post why Bert

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#679056

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-03-29 14:35 -0700
Message-ID<p9jmgb$1r3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#679023
___"reber G=EMC^2"<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
"Dumb Moron" (DM) yes, no "Decent Education" (DE) .
Will post why "I park & bark in the dark. I'm of low wit 
& a stupid shit". Bert
>
"Why am I posting this, it's making me cry as it always does"

______  "Why am I not loved by all?". Bert.
>

>
>
>
hmmm...<snicker>...<chortle>...ahahahAHAHA...ROTFLMAO

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#678993

FromWill Bos <sllu@wsws.sb>
Date2018-03-29 19:09 +0000
Message-ID<p9jdlk$210$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#678675
Libor Striz wrote:

> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>> What color is...Dark Matter?
>> According to my observation... it is darker than Blue.
>> 
> Dark matter is misname. Hidden  matter is more exact.

How on earth is that exact. You can't have it hidden. That's meta-physics. 
Immaterial matter is totally nonsense. Get yourself an education in a 
civilized country, young boy.

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#679001

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-03-29 21:21 +0200
Message-ID<p9jecg$abn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#678993
Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> Wrote in message:
> Libor Striz wrote:
> 
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>>> What color is...Dark Matter?
>>> According to my observation... it is darker than Blue.
>>> 
>> Dark matter is misname. Hidden  matter is more exact.
> 
> How on earth is that exact. You can't have it hidden. That's meta-physics. 
> Immaterial matter is totally nonsense. Get yourself an education in a 
> civilized country, young boy.
> 

First try to understand, what I wrote, baby, 
but only after abandoning your childish trolling and nymshifting.
 Your ID generator is quite stupid.
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#679021

FromWill Bos <sllu@wsws.sb>
Date2018-03-29 19:44 +0000
Message-ID<p9jfmf$7la$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#679001
Libor Striz wrote:

> Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> Wrote in message:
>> Libor Striz wrote:
>> 
>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>>>> What color is...Dark Matter?
>>>> According to my observation... it is darker than Blue.
>>>> 
>>> Dark matter is misname. Hidden  matter is more exact.
>> 
>> How on earth is that exact. You can't have it hidden. That's
>> meta-physics.
>> Immaterial matter is totally nonsense. Get yourself an education in a
>> civilized country, young boy.
> 
> First try to understand, what I wrote, baby,
> but only after abandoning your childish trolling and nymshifting.
>  Your ID generator is quite stupid.

In lack of scientific arguments, you decay attacking my good name, and, 
accusing me for trolling. It makes no sense.

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#679025

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-03-29 21:54 +0200
Message-ID<41153245.fMDQidcC6G@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#679021
The ’nym-shifting troll trolled as "Will Bos" <sllu@wsws.sb>:

> In lack of scientific arguments, you decay attacking my good name, and,
                                       ^^^^^           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> accusing me for trolling. It makes no sense.

ROTFL.

(*PLONK*)


PointedEars
-- 
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
 testing your knowledge means everything.”
   —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
    in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)

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#679029 — The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-03-29 13:09 -0700
SubjectThe "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.09pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#679001
The British use the word "dark" when they mean "unseen";
e.g.: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

95% of the (spherical) Milky Way can't be seen because
we're sitting in a brightly lit "room" with pitch black "windows",
and we can't turn down the lights, nor move to the window.

Quoting WikiPedia: <<

  The visible disk of the Milky Way Galaxy is embedded 
  in a much larger, roughly spherical halo of dark matter. 

  The dark matter density drops off with distance from the galactic center.
  It is now believed that about 95% of the Galaxy is composed of dark matter >>

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#679067 — Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-03-29 18:04 -0400
SubjectRe: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.
Message-ID<TpdvC.163219$Rp1.39167@fx37.iad>
In reply to#679029
On 3/29/2018 4:09 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> The British use the word "dark" when they mean "unseen";
> e.g.: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.
> 
> 95% of the (spherical) Milky Way can't be seen because
> we're sitting in a brightly lit "room" with pitch black "windows",
> and we can't turn down the lights, nor move to the window.
> 
> Quoting WikiPedia: <<
> 
>    The visible disk of the Milky Way Galaxy is embedded
>    in a much larger, roughly spherical halo of dark matter.
> 
>    The dark matter density drops off with distance from the galactic center.
>    It is now believed that about 95% of the Galaxy is composed of dark matter >>
> 
You make one little mistake (BB) and look at the mess your physics turns 
into! Wikipedia is really the ultimate authority on all science, Rolf. 
Didn't you notice that when Sergio spanked "kensi" he quoted Einstein's 
actual papers, not Wikipedia?

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#679076 — Most everything at WikiPedia is -WELL SOURCED-.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-03-29 16:10 -0700
SubjectMost everything at WikiPedia is -WELL SOURCED-.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--4.10pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#679067
> Wikipedia is really the ultimate authority on all science, Rolf. 

If you could contribute to WikiPedia, as I do,
you'd know that most everything there is -WELL SOURCED-;
it's a God Damn Miracle !

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#678985

FromWill Bos <sllu@wsws.sb>
Date2018-03-29 18:54 +0000
Message-ID<p9jcq3$210$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#678638
The Starmaker wrote:

> What color is...Dark Matter?

brown, but it depends.

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#679008

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-03-29 21:27 +0200
Message-ID<p9jena$dv5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#678985
Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> Wrote in message:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> 
>> What color is...Dark Matter?
> 
> brown, but it depends.
> 

 Colour of dark matter is contradiction.

What does not interact electromagnetically cannot have colour.

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#679101

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-03-29 21:53 -0700
Message-ID<bf17de96-9b18-4cc5-8878-5e0f04716f1c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#678638
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 5:49:50 PM UTC+11, The Starmaker wrote:
> What color is...Dark Matter?
> 
The colour of iron, mostly.

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#679108

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-03-30 08:09 +0100
Message-ID<IolvC.225495$Ml.198014@fx24.am4>
In reply to#678638
On 28/03/2018 07:48, The Starmaker wrote:

	> What color is...Dark Matter?

> dark matter color is darker than blue. 
> But, but...if you ask the Internet...you will get the wrong answer:
> "Dark matter has no color, because it's transparent, so it is invisible."
> If you ask your science teacher...you will get the wrong answer:
> "Dark matter has no color, 



    FLAT ORBITAL VELOCITY CURVES OF SPIRAL GALAXIES

I suspect there could be a simple relationship of the form:

     ( constant orbital speed )^2 = K * mass of galaxy

I arrive at this by assuming that for spiral galaxies there is, in 
addition to the usual Newtonian inverse square gravitation, an 
additional inverse LINEAR relationship.

At normal distances the LINEAR TERM is clearly very small and can be 
ignored, but obviously at very large distances the linear term will 
dominate, and at sufficiently large distances the inverse square term 
can be ignored.

At large distance from the galactic center (R) we may therefore write:

        Centripetal Force = m * v^2 / R = K * M * m / R

Which gives us:                v^2     = K * M

Note v is independent of R, so this would nicely explain the
FLAT ORBITAL VELOCITY CURVES OF SPIRAL GALAXIES eh!



> Where do you guys learn physics from? science fiction teachers??

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