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| First post | 2018-03-21 16:32 -0700 |
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When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-21 16:32 -0700
When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 09:22 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-23 14:40 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 06:26 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 17:47 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 13:47 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 14:24 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-25 03:33 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 06:18 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 07:00 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 08:14 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-25 09:56 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 10:10 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 19:32 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-25 17:52 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 11:41 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 00:48 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 07:31 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 10:51 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 18:41 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 12:53 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 13:09 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 20:45 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 14:58 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-27 11:57 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 11:25 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 06:46 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 18:04 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 11:12 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-27 18:56 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 19:26 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-27 12:35 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 12:41 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 22:49 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 16:35 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 01:58 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 05:31 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-28 12:50 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 06:14 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 16:07 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-28 06:15 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 16:07 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 10:44 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 18:01 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 11:33 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 11:53 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 12:07 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 21:42 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 06:50 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 14:43 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 14:51 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:39 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-29 17:10 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 17:21 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 16:19 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 16:29 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 18:00 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 14:11 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 12:34 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-31 19:43 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 13:05 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 23:37 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-30 16:54 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 17:07 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-30 20:16 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-31 02:38 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 07:18 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-31 17:58 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 21:54 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 15:14 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-31 15:42 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-01 00:40 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 18:05 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-31 21:23 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-01 16:31 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-29 17:03 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:58 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 21:42 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-29 23:51 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:56 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 21:42 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-27 21:03 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 10:48 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-03-28 19:17 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 16:13 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 09:48 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-03-26 20:42 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-26 21:33 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-25 11:41 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 19:32 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 19:32 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-25 21:03 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 22:32 +0000
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-24 22:11 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-23 23:24 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-23 23:26 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 17:02 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-25 17:13 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 19:13 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-03-27 21:21 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-03-27 22:06 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-27 23:46 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-25 18:25 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 13:15 -0700
Re: When light is stored in the atom it particpates in atomic weight/heaviness "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-03-29 14:21 -0700
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-26 12:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <988587cb-6c00-4cd8-bb79-bd05e82bdd67@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678392 |
MM "about everything science has to s" You're the voice of science?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-26 13:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e781f81a-3862-4781-8d82-93f2871bd283@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678398 |
MM Haha. Particles without volume. Unlimited Gravity just by being there. Distributed electrons that can be knocked out of an atom in 10^-16 of a second. And now....Ta Da!!... spinning galaxies with non-spinning centres- Oh, yes, spinning FASTER on one side. Hahahahahahahaha You guys are too much
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-03-26 20:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9bm53$ok3$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #678400 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >Haha. So you hang around here because you think science is funny? >Particles without volume. Tell us, why do you think this is a problem? [crickets] >Unlimited Gravity just by being there. Tell us, why do you think this is a problem? [crickets] >Distributed electrons that can be knocked out of an atom in 10^-16 of a second. Tell us, why do you think this is a problem? [crickets] >And now....Ta Da!!... spinning galaxies with non-spinning centres- Tell us, why do you think this is a problem? [crickets] >Oh, yes, spinning FASTER on one side. Tell us, why do you think this is a problem? [crickets] >Hahahahahahahaha oh, maybe this is just the laughter of insanity. >You guys are too much
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-26 14:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <38224655-0bb2-4e14-bc46-933031a755bb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678405 |
MM You apparently have an imagination as good as Odd's. Congratulations
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-03-27 11:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9dbit$q29$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #678422 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >>Tell us, why do you think this is a problem? [crickets] (times N) >MM >You apparently have an imagination as good as Odd's. >Congratulations The crickets thank you for keeping them employed. As I expected, not a single question answered.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-27 11:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9d9no$1n6q$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #678400 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > MM > Haha. > Particles without volume. > Unlimited Gravity just by being there. > Distributed electrons that can be knocked out of an atom in 10^-16 of a second. > And now....Ta Da!!... spinning galaxies with non-spinning centres- > Oh, yes, spinning FASTER on one side. > > Hahahahahahahaha > > You guys are too much > Truth does not hang on your incredulity -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-27 06:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4e964776-8da4-4dd3-8fd4-0053fe5c0e2a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678485 |
Odd "Truth does not hang on your incredulity " Nor on ur long line of imaginative fudge
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-27 18:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9e13f$16ki$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #678497 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > "Truth does not hang on your incredulity " > Nor on ur long line of imaginative fudge > Rather, it hangs on the precision quantitative agreement with observational data. Which is bountiful and what scientists look for. You don’t. There’s the difference. In other words IT DOESNT MATTER whether you think the ideas make sense to you. The ONLY thing that matters is the stuff you dismiss as bean counting. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-27 11:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87a22dcc-8eb0-4012-af8b-497df4bd3560@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678527 |
Odd "observational" Well, observations show that atoms are spheres. So, you say that photons develope in there SOMEWHERE. Any further enlightenment?
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-03-27 18:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9e455$bpp$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #678529 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >"observational" >Well, observations show that atoms are spheres. No, John. Observations show that most atoms are NOT spheres.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-27 19:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9e5tg$1hd3$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #678529 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > "observational" > Well, observations show that atoms are spheres. First off, that’s wrong, and if you think there are observations that show they are spheres then cite the experiments. Meanwhile, atoms with unfilled outer shells are not round, as experiments in magnetic fields show. > So, you say that photons develope in there SOMEWHERE. > Any further enlightenment? > Geez people have to say things four or five times to you. Must be the pot. Photons originate at charged particles. So at electrons and protons, or if you like, electrons and quarks. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-03-27 12:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <026b390a-771d-4e42-bddb-61a69c2b5fd8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678547 |
On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 12:26:45 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > > Odd > > "observational" > > Well, observations show that atoms are spheres. > > First off, that’s wrong, and if you think there are observations that show > they are spheres then cite the experiments. Meanwhile, atoms with unfilled > outer shells are not round, as experiments in magnetic fields show. > > > So, you say that photons develope in there SOMEWHERE. > > Any further enlightenment? > > > > Geez people have to say things four or five times to you. Must be the pot. > Photons originate at charged particles. So at electrons and protons, or if > you like, electrons and quarks. > > > > -- > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables What if there are no quarks? Just protons coming together with electrons? forming neutrons? How does a subatomic particle blow bubbles in a Bubble chamber? Come on really... Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-27 12:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9355be38-3774-4ad7-ab72-59a91f8aa527@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678547 |
Odd " Geez people have to say things four or five times to you. Must be the pot. Photons originate at charged particles. So at electrons and protons, or if you like, electrons and quarks. - show quoted text -" Yes, you've said that so many times. So, WHERE would the photon be? Among the 'distributed' electron? Or closer to the central nucleus?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-27 22:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9ehq0$8s4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #678551 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > " > Geez people have to say things four or five times to you. Must be the pot. > Photons originate at charged particles. So at electrons and protons, or if > you like, electrons and quarks. > - show quoted text -" > Yes, you've said that so many times. > > So, WHERE would the photon be? > Among the 'distributed' electron? > Or closer to the central nucleus? > You keep asking where the photon would be, as though it is being crafted over a period of time in some internal assembly line in the atom, like a protein inside a cell. It is EMITTED from a charged object, wherever that charged object happens to be at that moment of emission. If it’s the electron that emitted it, it happens where the electron is. If it is the proton that emitted it, then it is where the proton happened to be. Notice that no measurement will ever be able to fix a single point where that emission occurred. It is counter to the laws of physics (which by the way don’t CARE what you think should be knowable or not) that it would be so localizable. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-27 16:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <70b4f21c-750b-467d-ad55-13a5ae763315@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678578 |
Odd "is EMITTE" Ah! BOOM! It just pops out from wherever. !Very enlightening. Thank you scientist Odd
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-28 01:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9esri$m5g$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #678583 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > "is EMITTE" > > Ah! > BOOM! It just pops out from wherever. From the electron. Are you expecting Santa’s Little Photon Workshop with a street address and GPS coordinates? > !Very enlightening. Thank you scientist Odd > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-28 05:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5aa27622-c685-401a-806f-09a1b2e85b7a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678604 |
Odd "john <johnse...@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > "is EMITTE" > > Ah! > BOOM! It just pops out from wherever. From the electron. Are you expecting Santa’s Little Photon Workshop with a street address and GPS coordinates? " From the 'distributed' electron? Which is spread out. Why do they talk about this, then: 'if experimentally probed at very short distances, the intrinsic structure of the photon is recognized as a flux of quark and gluon components, quasi-free according to asymptotic freedom in QCD and described by the photon structure function.' ? (From the link provided by penile)
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-03-28 12:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9g322$um3$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #678671 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >From the 'distributed' electron? >Which is spread out. >Why do they talk about this, then: >'if experimentally probed at very short distances, the intrinsic structure >of the photon is recognized as a flux of quark and gluon components, quasi- >free according to asymptotic freedom in QCD and described by the photon >structure function.' ? >(From the link provided by penile) Do you understand Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle? (wait, no need to answer that!) When you are talking about energies of that level, yes you can pinpoint an electron's location to a high degree, but the energy and momentum are WAY above that of the typical photon emitted by an electron transitioning shells, so that as an answer to "where did the photon come from" is meaningless? And on the other hand, do you know how large (wavelength) a typical photon emitted by an electron transitioning shells is? No? I didn't think so. That makes the answer to your question like trying to pinpoint the location of the USS Nimitz to a particular cubic centimeter.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-28 06:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7907b830-d5da-4f1a-8d9d-384a4613a324@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #678678 |
MM Bluster all you want- you can't explain your model to anyone. You and Penile and Off, with your math model. Show me a picture. Oh, right, you have no conceptual model of where things are. But the nucleus is still at the Center, isn't it? Or is that up for interpretation, also? You haven't a clue here ANYTHING is in an atom, at this point! Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-03-28 16:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <p9gej5$16ru$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #678683 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > MM > Bluster all you want- you can't explain your model to anyone. > You and Penile and Off, with your math model. > > Show me a picture. A physics model is not a picture. You keep saying physics has no model, which means to you it has no picture. That’s not what a physics model is. It’s not smart to stand next to a soda machine and ask over and over again where the well pump handle is. > Oh, right, you have no conceptual model of where things are. > But the nucleus is still at the Center, isn't it? > Or is that up for interpretation, also? > > You haven't a clue here ANYTHING is in an atom, at this point! Of course people know. You’ve seen pictures of orbitals. > Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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