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Iron nitride transformers could boost energy storage options

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2016-03-25 22:35 -0500
Last post2016-03-26 05:26 +0000
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  Iron nitride transformers could boost energy storage options Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 22:35 -0500
    Re: Iron nitride transformers could boost energy storage options benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 23:39 -0400
    Re: Iron nitride transformers could boost energy storage options jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-26 05:26 +0000

#565656 — Iron nitride transformers could boost energy storage options

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-25 22:35 -0500
SubjectIron nitride transformers could boost energy storage options
Message-ID<1sGdnU4eTdMCnmvLnZ2dnUU7-I8AAAAA@giganews.com>
Iron nitride transformers could boost energy storage options
> http://phys.org/news/2016-03-iron-nitride-boost-energy-storage.html


> A Sandia-led team has developed a way to make a magnetic material
> that could lead to lighter and smaller, cheaper and better-performing
> high-frequency transformers, needed for more flexible energy storage
> systems and widespread adoption of renewable energy.
>
> The work is part of a larger, integrated portfolio of projects funded
> by Department of Energy's (DOE) Energy Storage Program in the Office
> of Electricity Delivery and Energy Reliability.
>
> Transportable energy storage and power conversion systems, which can
> fit inside a single semi-trailer, could make it cost effective to
> rapidly install solar, wind and geothermal energy systems in even the
> most remote locations.


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#565661

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-25 23:39 -0400
Message-ID<HvnJy.62913$rQ.32131@fx43.iad>
In reply to#565656
On 03/25/2016 11:35 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Iron nitride transformers could boost energy storage options
>> http://phys.org/news/2016-03-iron-nitride-boost-energy-storage.html
>
>
>> A Sandia-led team has developed a way to make a magnetic material
>> that could lead to lighter and smaller, cheaper and better-performing
>> high-frequency transformers, needed for more flexible energy storage
>> systems and widespread adoption of renewable energy.
>>
>> The work is part of a larger, integrated portfolio of projects funded
>> by Department of Energy's (DOE) Energy Storage Program in the Office
>> of Electricity Delivery and Energy Reliability.
>>
>> Transportable energy storage and power conversion systems, which can
>> fit inside a single semi-trailer, could make it cost effective to
>> rapidly install solar, wind and geothermal energy systems in even the
>> most remote locations.
>
>
Green garbage. What the world needs is a decent battery with large 
storage capacity, light weight and lifetime measured in decades.
You able to design such a thing green-boi? Didn't think so.

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#565671

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-03-26 05:26 +0000
Message-ID<p4jhsc-7s3.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#565656
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Iron nitride transformers could boost energy storage options
>> http://phys.org/news/2016-03-iron-nitride-boost-energy-storage.html
> 
> 
>> A Sandia-led team has developed a way to make a magnetic material
>> that could lead to lighter and smaller, cheaper and better-performing
>> high-frequency transformers, needed for more flexible energy storage
>> systems and widespread adoption of renewable energy.
>>
>> The work is part of a larger, integrated portfolio of projects funded
>> by Department of Energy's (DOE) Energy Storage Program in the Office
>> of Electricity Delivery and Energy Reliability.
>>
>> Transportable energy storage and power conversion systems, which can
>> fit inside a single semi-trailer, could make it cost effective to
>> rapidly install solar, wind and geothermal energy systems in even the
>> most remote locations.
 
Nonsense.

Off the shelf transformers have typical efficiencies of about 985, so no
gain there.

Frequency response is a red herring for power systems.

Requiring a specialized material for the core is likely to make the
transformers more expensive, not cheaper.

The size and weight of transformers is a tiny fraction of the total
size and weight of an energy collection, storage and power conversion
system. 

The size of a power transformer is dominated by the wire size needed
to handle the applied voltage and current.

If the location is that remote, it is unlikely that there will be roads
to tow in a trailer.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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