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  LHC, contact
 with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-18 21:04 +0000
    LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 14:06 -0700
    Re: LHC, contact
 with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-18 21:15 +0000
      Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 16:31 -0700
      Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2015-10-19 10:56 +0200
        Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! Mitch Lacroix <mitch@dont-email.me> - 2015-10-19 16:57 +0000
          Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 14:07 -0700
    Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-10-19 14:30 -0700
    Re: LHC, contact  with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! dsr@mail.lns.cornell.edu (Daniel S. Riley) - 2015-10-20 16:42 -0400
      Re: LHC, contact  with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-20 17:25 -0400
        Re: LHC, contact  with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! Scott Finnegan <scofi@NNTPSwitch.org> - 2015-10-20 22:07 +0000
          Re: LHC, contact  with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-20 18:27 -0400
        Re: LHC, contact  with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-20 18:26 -0400
          Re: LHC, contact  with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! Scott Finnegan <scofi@NNTPSwitch.org> - 2015-10-20 22:51 +0000
            Re: LHC, contact  with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 17:06 -0700
        Re: LHC, contact  with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! Scott Finnegan <scofi@NNTPSwitch.org> - 2015-10-21 18:20 +0000
          Re: LHC, contact  with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days! kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-21 15:26 -0400

#526739 — LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

Scientists at Large Hadron Collider hope to make contact
with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days

"If successful a completely new universe will be revealed
– rewriting not only the physics books but the philosophy
books too."

Wow, awesome. Just turned me into speechless.

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#526740 — LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

Also speechless

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#526743

Euclid Baumann wrote:

> Scientists at Large Hadron Collider hope to make contact
> with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days
> http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days
> 
> "If successful a completely new universe will be revealed
> – rewriting not only the physics books but the philosophy
> books too."
> 
> Wow, awesome. Just turned me into speechless.

"It is even possible that gravity from our own universe may ‘leak’
into this parallel universe, scientists at the LHC say."

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#526769 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 2:15:15 PM UTC-7, Euclid Baumann wrote:
> Euclid Baumann wrote:
> 
> > Scientists at Large Hadron Collider hope to make contact
> > with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days
> > http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days
> > 
> > "If successful a completely new universe will be revealed
> > - rewriting not only the physics books but the philosophy
> > books too."
> > 
> > Wow, awesome. Just turned me into speechless.
> 
> "It is even possible that gravity from our own universe may 'leak'
> into this parallel universe, scientists at the LHC say."

Well TreB found me.Its our turn to find him.Treb says this Do not bet on it.TreBert

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#526810 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 21:15:09 +0000 (UTC), Euclid Baumann
<eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> wrote:

>Euclid Baumann wrote:
>
>> Scientists at Large Hadron Collider hope to make contact
>> with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days
>> http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days
>> 
>> "If successful a completely new universe will be revealed
>> – rewriting not only the physics books but the philosophy
>> books too."
>> 
>> Wow, awesome. Just turned me into speechless.
>
>"It is even possible that gravity from our own universe may ‘leak’
>into this parallel universe, scientists at the LHC say."

Wrong date.
April is over.

w.

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#526862 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 21:15:09 +0000 (UTC), Euclid Baumann
> <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> wrote:
> 
>>Euclid Baumann wrote:
>>> Scientists at Large Hadron Collider hope to make contact with PARALLEL
>>> UNIVERSE in days
>>> http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-
Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days
>>> "If successful a completely new universe will be revealed – rewriting
>>> not only the physics books but the philosophy books too."
>>> Wow, awesome. Just turned me into speechless.
>>
>>"It is even possible that gravity from our own universe may ‘leak’ into
>>this parallel universe, scientists at the LHC say."
> 
> Wrong date. April is over.

Interesting to remark that those big scientists at the Collider and who 
knows where, believe that Gravity is something of consistence and 
substantiated Entity, and not simply a phenomenon. To penetrate from there 
to here, it must consists of something. But Gravity is nothing bu an 
artefact phenomenon.

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#526930 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 9:57:27 AM UTC-7, Mitch Lacroix wrote:
> Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 21:15:09 +0000 (UTC), Euclid Baumann
> > <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> wrote:
> > 
> >>Euclid Baumann wrote:
> >>> Scientists at Large Hadron Collider hope to make contact with PARALLEL
> >>> UNIVERSE in days
> >>> http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-
> Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days
> >>> "If successful a completely new universe will be revealed - rewriting
> >>> not only the physics books but the philosophy books too."
> >>> Wow, awesome. Just turned me into speechless.
> >>
> >>"It is even possible that gravity from our own universe may 'leak' into
> >>this parallel universe, scientists at the LHC say."
> > 
> > Wrong date. April is over.
> 
> Interesting to remark that those big scientists at the Collider and who 
> knows where, believe that Gravity is something of consistence and 
> substantiated Entity, and not simply a phenomenon. To penetrate from there 
> to here, it must consists of something. But Gravity is nothing bu an 
> artefact phenomenon.

Gravity is a constant force.Its force is never exactly the same Here its force is stronger at the poles.6x weaker on the Moon. Its source comes out of the quantum realm.TreBert PS Gravity has no waves to create its force. Its particles all the way down.

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#526940 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 2:04:48 PM UTC-7, Euclid Baumann wrote:
> Scientists at Large Hadron Collider hope to make contact
> with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days
> http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days
> 
> "If successful a completely new universe will be revealed
> - rewriting not only the physics books but the philosophy
> books too."
> 
> Wow, awesome. Just turned me into speechless.


My what tall tales those researchers will resort to to gain funding!

Double-A

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#527078 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> writes:
> Scientists at Large Hadron Collider hope to make contact
> with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days
> http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days
>
> "If successful a completely new universe will be revealed
> rewriting not only the physics books but the philosophy
> books too."

Urgggh.

The LHC isn't gearing up for anything new and different--just more
proton-proton collisions at 13 TeV.

Faizal and his co-authors are theorists, not (AFAIK) affiliated with any
LHC experiment, certainly not behind any of the experiments (except
perhaps in the sense of lagging behind).

Their prediction of black holes is based on a theory that is not
widely accepted.

The claims about parallel universes appears to be pure hype.

This is also old news, it was covered back in March.

Recommended reading:

http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2015/03/no-lhc-will-not-make-contact-with.html

which concludes

"In summary: The authors work in a framework that combines rainbow
gravity with a lowered Planck scale, which is already ruled out. They
derive bounds on black hole production using existing data analysis that
does not apply in the framework they use. The main conclusion that
Planck length effects should suppress black hole production at the LHC
is correct, but this has been known since 10 years at least. None of
this has anything to do with parallel universes."

-dan

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#527083 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 16:42:36 -0400, dsr@mail.lns.cornell.edu (Daniel S.
Riley) wrote:

>Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> writes:
>> Scientists at Large Hadron Collider hope to make contact
>> with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days
>> http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days
>>
>> "If successful a completely new universe will be revealed
>> rewriting not only the physics books but the philosophy
>> books too."
>
>Urgggh.

         Well, yeah, you responded to the name changing troll
using the nym Bauman, it was the last of many names that
he used before taking the nym Finnigan now.   :-(


>The LHC isn't gearing up for anything new and different--just more
>proton-proton collisions at 13 TeV.
>
>Faizal and his co-authors are theorists, not (AFAIK) affiliated with any
>LHC experiment, certainly not behind any of the experiments (except
>perhaps in the sense of lagging behind).
>
>Their prediction of black holes is based on a theory that is not
>widely accepted.

       And they will be even less widely accepted 
when the Divergent Matter model becomes more
popular, because the physics is quite different,
with dense stars forming from very different
processes.


>The claims about parallel universes appears to be pure hype.
>
>This is also old news, it was covered back in March.
>
>Recommended reading:
>
>http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2015/03/no-lhc-will-not-make-contact-with.html
>
>which concludes
>
>"In summary: The authors work in a framework that combines rainbow
>gravity with a lowered Planck scale, which is already ruled out. They
>derive bounds on black hole production using existing data analysis that
>does not apply in the framework they use. The main conclusion that
>Planck length effects should suppress black hole production at the LHC
>is correct, but this has been known since 10 years at least. None of
>this has anything to do with parallel universes."
>
>-dan

          The fact that many neutron stars exist is
a hint that black hole theory is flawed.

           In the Divergent Matter model, gravity
is NOT an attraction.

          It is not an attraction in General Relativity
either (to hear some tell it), so it would seem
to be a mystery how GR predicts black holes.

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#527091 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

kefischer wrote:

>>Their prediction of black holes is based on a theory that is not widely
>>accepted.
> 
>        And they will be even less widely accepted
> when the Divergent Matter model becomes more popular, because the
> physics is quite different,

Not "different", just say the truth, that you know nothing about Divergent 
Matter, and about the "models" in particular.

> with dense stars forming from very different processes.

I just ordered you to stop stealing Divergent Matter. You act like an 
crisis actor, acting as he knows what he is talking about. No!

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#527098 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 22:07:38 +0000 (UTC), Scott Finnegan
<scofi@NNTPSwitch.org> wrote:

>kefischer wrote:
>
>>>Their prediction of black holes is based on a theory that is not widely
>>>accepted.
>> 
>>        And they will be even less widely accepted
>> when the Divergent Matter model becomes more popular, because the
>> physics is quite different,
>
>Not "different", just say the truth, that you know nothing about Divergent 
>Matter, and about the "models" in particular.
>
>> with dense stars forming from very different processes.
>
>I just ordered you to stop stealing Divergent Matter. You act like an 
>crisis actor, acting as he knows what he is talking about. No!

          Change you name again, you stupid nym-changing
troll, this one is a liar and a thief.

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#527097 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 14:55:25 -0700 (PDT), pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:

>On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 2:26:13 PM UTC-7, kefischer wrote:
>
>>        And they will be even less widely accepted 
>> when the Divergent Matter model becomes more
>> popular, because the physics is quite different,
>> with dense stars forming from very different
>> processes.
>
>Only in your dreams, Ken, only in your dreams...

         Being it keeps getting better, just as it
has been for the 72 years I have been working
on it, I am confident it is the better or even final
theory.


>>           The fact that many neutron stars exist is
>> a hint that black hole theory is flawed.
>
>What leads you to this conclusion, Ken? 
>After all, the only difference between a star ending up as a black hole 
>and a star ending up as a neutron star is the initial mass of these stars, 
>nothing more.

         In the present Newtonian astronomy and
astrophysics concepts, yes, remember that I said
I had at least 3 or more semesters of college
astronomy?

         But the variety of high energy events seen
cannot be explained by such bland concepts as
stable stars cooling and collapsing almost
instantly when they run out of fuel.

        You are becoming boring, bringing out
the same old Newtonian nonsense.


>>            In the Divergent Matter model, gravity
>> is NOT an attraction.
>
>DuMb, however, is NOT a model, it is just a hypothesis... 
>and not a very good one, at that.

       The fact that it makes different and unique
predictions is what makes it a model.

       You don't seem to be able to see anything
that is not Newtonian in your observational
astronomy hobby.

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#527103 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

kefischer wrote:

>>Only in your dreams, Ken, only in your dreams...
> 
>          Being it keeps getting better, just as it
> has been for the 72 years I have been working on it, I am confident it
> is the better or even final theory.

Keep it real, ken, what "working"? Working involves papers, studies and 
experience. Show your working, something we can test and derive.

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#527124 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

most of the other universeS,
seem to be perpendicular to this/mine Universe

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#527221 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

kefischer wrote:

>>Their prediction of black holes is based on a theory that is not widely
>>accepted.
> 
>        And they will be even less widely accepted
> when the Divergent Matter model becomes more popular, because the
> physics is quite different,
> with dense stars forming from very different processes.

I'm the organizer of an International Conference in Divergent Matter next 
month, and you are not invited.

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#527226 — Re: LHC, contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days!

On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 18:20:00 +0000 (UTC), Scott Finnegan
<scofi@NNTPSwitch.org> wrote:

>kefischer wrote:
>
>>>Their prediction of black holes is based on a theory that is not widely
>>>accepted.
>> 
>>        And they will be even less widely accepted
>> when the Divergent Matter model becomes more popular, because the
>> physics is quite different,
>> with dense stars forming from very different processes.
>
>I'm the organizer of an International Conference in Divergent Matter next 
>month, and you are not invited.

        You are "THE"  stupid, goofy nym-changing troll,
so STFU and go away.

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