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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 22:38 +0100
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 15:55 -0700
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-22 22:58 +0000
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 16:20 -0700
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 00:01 +0000
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 17:20 -0700
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 00:27 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 17:44 -0700
                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 00:48 +0000
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 17:54 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 00:55 +0000
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 18:13 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 01:20 +0000
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 14:35 +0100
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 14:32 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:07 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 08:15 -0700
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:17 +0000
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 10:07 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 12:05 -0700
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-30 18:06 +0100
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 11:11 -0700
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 18:36 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 11:48 -0700
                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 18:54 +0000
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:09 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:14 +0000
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:25 -0700
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 19:39 -0400
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:50 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:56 -0700
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:00 +0000
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:09 -0700
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:23 -0400
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:24 -0400
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:26 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-10 21:42 +0100
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-10 23:11 +0000
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-11 15:23 +0100
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-06 14:32 +0100
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:26 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-07 12:38 -0400
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 17:16 +0000
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Beezel Bub <nunya@bizz.invalid> - 2017-05-07 11:24 -0600
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 17:57 +0000
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-07 14:32 -0400
                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 18:36 +0000
                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 12:53 -0700
                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 21:51 +0000
                                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 15:02 -0700
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:59 -0700
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-07 14:18 -0400
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 18:24 +0000
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-07 15:18 -0400
                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 19:35 +0000
                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 13:06 -0700
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 18:50 +0000
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 12:12 -0700
                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 19:48 +0000
                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 12:55 -0700
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:56 -0700
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:57 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-08 00:09 +0100
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 16:24 -0700
                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-06 14:34 +0100
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 13:48 +0000
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-06 15:16 +0100
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:28 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:55 -0700
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-05-06 10:40 -0500
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:27 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 14:56 -0400
                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:04 +0000
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:14 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:16 +0000
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:24 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:25 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 13:08 -0700
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 20:27 +0000
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 20:34 +0000
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 13:56 -0700
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 21:34 +0000
                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:01 -0700
                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:06 +0000
                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:13 -0700
                                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:20 +0000
                                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:23 +0000
                                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:31 -0700
                                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:31 -0700
                                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:34 +0000
                                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:00 -0700
                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:03 +0000
                                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:18 -0700
                                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:29 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-06 15:17 +0100
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:38 -0700
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 15:18 -0400
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:18 +0000
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:23 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:21 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 13:07 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:24 -0700
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 17:17 -0400
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 14:19 -0700
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 17:22 -0400
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 14:28 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 21:22 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 18:30 -0400
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:34 -0700
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 18:49 -0400
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:01 -0700
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:40 +0000
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:16 -0700
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:15 +0000
                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:28 -0700
                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:43 +0000
                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:48 -0700
                                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:51 +0000
                                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:55 -0700
                                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:55 +0000
                                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:08 -0700
                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:17 +0000
                                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:33 -0700
                                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:46 +0000
                                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:52 -0700
                                                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 01:02 +0000
                                                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 18:23 -0700
                                                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 01:47 +0000
                                                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:18 -0700
                                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 08:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:53 -0700
                                                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 17:30 +0000
                                                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 10:44 -0700
                                                                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 17:54 +0000
                                                                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 12:05 -0700
                                                                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 19:37 +0000
                                                                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-05-06 22:09 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Charlie <pipedroner3@kismet45.org> - 2017-05-06 16:19 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 13:55 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 13:22 -0700
                                                                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 13:20 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 20:28 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 13:40 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 22:23 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 15:48 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-21 22:02 +0100
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-21 22:02 +0100
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-21 14:17 -0700
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 18:33 -0400
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:36 -0700
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 18:43 -0400
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:01 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:45 +0000
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 18:54 -0400
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:53 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 19:16 -0400
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:17 -0700
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:13 -0400
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:23 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:42 -0400
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:57 +0000
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 00:48 +0100
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 17:16 -0700
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 00:18 +0000
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 17:22 -0700
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 22:07 +0100
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 14:17 -0700
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 01:02 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 18:55 -0700
                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 15:17 +0100
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:03 -0700

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#631505

FromWolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Date2017-04-30 20:42 -0400
Message-ID<CvvNA.43271$3%2.19724@fx09.iad>
In reply to#631502
On 2017-04-30 20:23, Sprang wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:13:40 -0400, Wolf K, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>> On 2017-04-30 18:45, Sprang wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:33:39 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>> [...]
>>>> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
>>>> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thermal expansion.
>>
>> I'm sure you have the skills to figure out the effect of thermal
>> expansion on ocean levels.
>>
>> In case you don't have the formulas at your finger tips, here's how to
>> calculate the cubic thermal expansion of the ocean:
>>
>> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/volumetric-temperature-expansion-d_315.html
>>
>> You also need to know the volume of the ocean, and its area:
>> 1.35 billion cubic km
>> 351 million square km
>>
>> You need to figure out:
>> a) how much the ocean would rise with zero increase in surface area;
>> that's simple geometry.
>> b) how much of that rise would be absorbed by increased surface area via
>> flooding of low-lying land; that's trickier, because you have to know
>> the areas of land at, say, 1m intervals, so as to calculate the volume
>> that the flooding ocean water would occupy, etc. I'm sure you can find
>> the data.
>>
>
> By golly, it will increase by 4 inches.
> Thanks. :)
> Now, all the ice needs to melt.

It's doing so already. You obviously live someher where there are no 
galciers, or you would have notuiced that already.

> How many thousand years do we have to prepar?

About 0.01 kilo years.

> Got a formula for that?

Didn't you study how to calculate rates of ice melting in high school? 
You know, the part that dealt with heat?

-- 
Best,
Wolf K
https://kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"What good is it having lower taxes when you can’t drink the water?”

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#631508

FromSprang <spring@sprung.invalid>
Date2017-05-01 00:57 +0000
Message-ID<oe6152$4cs$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#631505
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:42:05 -0400, Wolf K, after 15 edits, wrote this:
> On 2017-04-30 20:23, Sprang wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:13:40 -0400, Wolf K, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>> On 2017-04-30 18:45, Sprang wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:33:39 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>> [...]
>>>>> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
>>>>> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thermal expansion.
>>>
>>> I'm sure you have the skills to figure out the effect of thermal
>>> expansion on ocean levels.
>>>
>>> In case you don't have the formulas at your finger tips, here's how to
>>> calculate the cubic thermal expansion of the ocean:
>>>
>>> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/volumetric-temperature-expansion-d_315.html
>>>
>>> You also need to know the volume of the ocean, and its area:
>>> 1.35 billion cubic km
>>> 351 million square km
>>>
>>> You need to figure out:
>>> a) how much the ocean would rise with zero increase in surface area;
>>> that's simple geometry.
>>> b) how much of that rise would be absorbed by increased surface area via
>>> flooding of low-lying land; that's trickier, because you have to know
>>> the areas of land at, say, 1m intervals, so as to calculate the volume
>>> that the flooding ocean water would occupy, etc. I'm sure you can find
>>> the data.
>>>
>>
>> By golly, it will increase by 4 inches.
>> Thanks. :)
>> Now, all the ice needs to melt.
>
> It's doing so already. You obviously live someher where there are no 
> galciers, or you would have notuiced that already.
>

And yet, the ocean stays in the ocean.

>> How many thousand years do we have to prepar?
>
> About 0.01 kilo years.

All the ice will melt in 10 years?
Hahahaha.

>
>> Got a formula for that?
>
> Didn't you study how to calculate rates of ice melting in high school? 
> You know, the part that dealt with heat?
>

If you are assuming a steady rate of temp. increase, then sure.
But, that's yet to be determined.
The guess is 1.2 degrees more by 2050.

-- 
SpringSprangSprung

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#630164

From"James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Date2017-04-23 00:48 +0100
Message-ID<op.yy4e2btwjs98qf@red.lan>
In reply to#630153
On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:55:51 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 4/22/17, 2:38 PM, in article op.yy381xf2js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 23:15:01 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/15/17, 11:16 AM, in article octo21$n2s$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
>>> <spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Snit is one of the dirt poor liberals that like to espouse the spending of
>>>>>> other people's money.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quote?
>>>>
>>>> Well, unless you are privately funding all this shit you are for, then that
>>>> is an entirely correct statement.
>>>> Get a child to read for you in the future.
>>>
>>> So no quote to back your claims of my views. Got it. You are just trolling
>>> for attention.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind I am the one who pushes for a STRONGER tie between hard work /
>>> productivity and financial gain.
>>
>> That's called "capitalism".
>
> Capitalism, without checks, is the selling of human rights and the
> environment to the highest bidder and directly works AGAINST those goals.
> With that said, pure Socialism would be no better. Having a mix of the two
> is not perfect but works far better than either, alone.

Human rights gets in the way of progress.  Bring back the slaves and let us prosper.  By the way, are you an ethnic minority?  Because you're sure acting like one.

-- 
Gargoyle (n), olive-flavored mouthwash.

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#630171

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-04-22 17:16 -0700
Message-ID<D5214050.A0DCD%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#630164
On 4/22/17, 4:48 PM, in article op.yy4e2btwjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:55:51 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/22/17, 2:38 PM, in article op.yy381xf2js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 23:15:01 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 4/15/17, 11:16 AM, in article octo21$n2s$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
>>>> <spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Snit is one of the dirt poor liberals that like to espouse the spending
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> other people's money.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Quote?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, unless you are privately funding all this shit you are for, then
>>>>> that
>>>>> is an entirely correct statement.
>>>>> Get a child to read for you in the future.
>>>> 
>>>> So no quote to back your claims of my views. Got it. You are just trolling
>>>> for attention.
>>>> 
>>>> Keep in mind I am the one who pushes for a STRONGER tie between hard work /
>>>> productivity and financial gain.
>>> 
>>> That's called "capitalism".
>> 
>> Capitalism, without checks, is the selling of human rights and the
>> environment to the highest bidder and directly works AGAINST those goals.
>> With that said, pure Socialism would be no better. Having a mix of the two
>> is not perfect but works far better than either, alone.
> 
> Human rights gets in the way of progress.  Bring back the slaves and let us
> prosper.  By the way, are you an ethnic minority?  Because you're sure acting
> like one.

I am a human... and I will act like one. Not going to even ask you.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#630173

FromSprang <spring@sprung.invalid>
Date2017-04-23 00:18 +0000
Message-ID<odgrtb$a81$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#630171
On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:16:00 -0700, Snit, after 15 edits, wrote this:
> On 4/22/17, 4:48 PM, in article op.yy4e2btwjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:55:51 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 4/22/17, 2:38 PM, in article op.yy381xf2js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 23:15:01 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/15/17, 11:16 AM, in article octo21$n2s$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
>>>>> <spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Snit is one of the dirt poor liberals that like to espouse the spending
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> other people's money.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Quote?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, unless you are privately funding all this shit you are for, then
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> is an entirely correct statement.
>>>>>> Get a child to read for you in the future.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So no quote to back your claims of my views. Got it. You are just trolling
>>>>> for attention.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Keep in mind I am the one who pushes for a STRONGER tie between hard work /
>>>>> productivity and financial gain.
>>>> 
>>>> That's called "capitalism".
>>> 
>>> Capitalism, without checks, is the selling of human rights and the
>>> environment to the highest bidder and directly works AGAINST those goals.
>>> With that said, pure Socialism would be no better. Having a mix of the two
>>> is not perfect but works far better than either, alone.
>> 
>> Human rights gets in the way of progress.  Bring back the slaves and let us
>> prosper.  By the way, are you an ethnic minority?  Because you're sure acting
>> like one.
>
> I am a human... and I will act like one. Not going to even ask you.

If he answers "rabbit", I'll be a monkey's uncle.

-- 
SpringSprangSprung

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#630174

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-04-22 17:22 -0700
Message-ID<D52141CD.A0DE2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#630173
On 4/22/17, 5:18 PM, in article odgrtb$a81$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
<spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:

>>>>>> Keep in mind I am the one who pushes for a STRONGER tie between hard work
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> productivity and financial gain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's called "capitalism".
>>>> 
>>>> Capitalism, without checks, is the selling of human rights and the
>>>> environment to the highest bidder and directly works AGAINST those goals.
>>>> With that said, pure Socialism would be no better. Having a mix of the two
>>>> is not perfect but works far better than either, alone.
>>> 
>>> Human rights gets in the way of progress.  Bring back the slaves and let us
>>> prosper.  By the way, are you an ethnic minority?  Because you're sure
>>> acting
>>> like one.
>> 
>> I am a human... and I will act like one. Not going to even ask you.
> 
> If he answers "rabbit", I'll be a monkey's uncle.

:)

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#631739

From"James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Date2017-05-02 22:07 +0100
Message-ID<op.yzmqban6js98qf@red.lan>
In reply to#630171
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 01:16:00 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 4/22/17, 4:48 PM, in article op.yy4e2btwjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:55:51 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/22/17, 2:38 PM, in article op.yy381xf2js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 23:15:01 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/15/17, 11:16 AM, in article octo21$n2s$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
>>>>> <spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Snit is one of the dirt poor liberals that like to espouse the spending
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> other people's money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quote?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, unless you are privately funding all this shit you are for, then
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> is an entirely correct statement.
>>>>>> Get a child to read for you in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> So no quote to back your claims of my views. Got it. You are just trolling
>>>>> for attention.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep in mind I am the one who pushes for a STRONGER tie between hard work /
>>>>> productivity and financial gain.
>>>>
>>>> That's called "capitalism".
>>>
>>> Capitalism, without checks, is the selling of human rights and the
>>> environment to the highest bidder and directly works AGAINST those goals.
>>> With that said, pure Socialism would be no better. Having a mix of the two
>>> is not perfect but works far better than either, alone.
>>
>> Human rights gets in the way of progress.  Bring back the slaves and let us
>> prosper.  By the way, are you an ethnic minority?  Because you're sure acting
>> like one.
>
> I am a human... and I will act like one. Not going to even ask you.

If you're an ethnic minority, you THINK you're human.  So you haven't answered my question.

-- 
Seen in the back window of a car:
In case of emergency screw driver on back seat.

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#631741

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-02 14:17 -0700
Message-ID<D52E4586.A3272%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#631739
On 5/2/17, 2:07 PM, in article op.yzmqban6js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

>>>>>> So no quote to back your claims of my views. Got it. You are just
>>>>>> trolling
>>>>>> for attention.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Keep in mind I am the one who pushes for a STRONGER tie between hard work
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> productivity and financial gain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's called "capitalism".
>>>> 
>>>> Capitalism, without checks, is the selling of human rights and the
>>>> environment to the highest bidder and directly works AGAINST those goals.
>>>> With that said, pure Socialism would be no better. Having a mix of the two
>>>> is not perfect but works far better than either, alone.
>>> 
>>> Human rights gets in the way of progress.  Bring back the slaves and let us
>>> prosper.  By the way, are you an ethnic minority?  Because you're sure
>>> acting like one.
>> 
>> I am a human... and I will act like one. Not going to even ask you.
> 
> If you're an ethnic minority, you THINK you're human.  So you haven't answered
> my question.

Do you think you are human?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#631774

From"James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Date2017-05-03 01:02 +0100
Message-ID<op.yzmyd9esjs98qf@red.lan>
In reply to#631741
On Tue, 02 May 2017 22:17:42 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 5/2/17, 2:07 PM, in article op.yzmqban6js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> So no quote to back your claims of my views. Got it. You are just
>>>>>>> trolling
>>>>>>> for attention.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keep in mind I am the one who pushes for a STRONGER tie between hard work
>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>> productivity and financial gain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's called "capitalism".
>>>>>
>>>>> Capitalism, without checks, is the selling of human rights and the
>>>>> environment to the highest bidder and directly works AGAINST those goals.
>>>>> With that said, pure Socialism would be no better. Having a mix of the two
>>>>> is not perfect but works far better than either, alone.
>>>>
>>>> Human rights gets in the way of progress.  Bring back the slaves and let us
>>>> prosper.  By the way, are you an ethnic minority?  Because you're sure
>>>> acting like one.
>>>
>>> I am a human... and I will act like one. Not going to even ask you.
>>
>> If you're an ethnic minority, you THINK you're human.  So you haven't answered
>> my question.
>
> Do you think you are human?

I KNOW I'm human.

-- 
If a person with multiple personalities threatens suicide, is that person considered a hostage situation?

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#631783

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-02 18:55 -0700
Message-ID<D52E86A0.A335C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#631774
On 5/2/17, 5:02 PM, in article op.yzmyd9esjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

... 
>>>> I am a human... and I will act like one. Not going to even ask you.
>>>> 
>>> If you're an ethnic minority, you THINK you're human.  So you haven't
>>> answered my question.
>>> 
>> Do you think you are human?
>> 
> I KNOW I'm human.
> 
What evidence or criteria did you use to come to that conclusion?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#631827

From"James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Date2017-05-03 15:17 +0100
Message-ID<op.yzn1y50qjs98qf@red.lan>
In reply to#631783
On Wed, 03 May 2017 02:55:28 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 5/2/17, 5:02 PM, in article op.yzmyd9esjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>>>>> I am a human... and I will act like one. Not going to even ask you.
>>>>>
>>>> If you're an ethnic minority, you THINK you're human.  So you haven't
>>>> answered my question.
>>>>
>>> Do you think you are human?
>>>
>> I KNOW I'm human.
>>
> What evidence or criteria did you use to come to that conclusion?

What a stupid question,  You might aswell ask how I know a dog is a dog.

-- 
Advice given to RAF pilots during WWII:
"When a prang seems inevitable, endeavour to strike the softest, cheapest object in the vicinity as slowly and gently as possible."

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#631843

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-03 10:03 -0700
Message-ID<D52F5B7B.A347A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#631827
On 5/3/17, 7:17 AM, in article op.yzn1y50qjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 03 May 2017 02:55:28 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/2/17, 5:02 PM, in article op.yzmyd9esjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>>>>>> I am a human... and I will act like one. Not going to even ask you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> If you're an ethnic minority, you THINK you're human.  So you haven't
>>>>> answered my question.
>>>>> 
>>>> Do you think you are human?
>>>> 
>>> I KNOW I'm human.
>>> 
>> What evidence or criteria did you use to come to that conclusion?
> 
> What a stupid question,  You might aswell ask how I know a dog is a dog.

You are the one who decided some people are not, so what is your criteria?

Seems it is what serves you best to give you special entitlements.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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