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Clouds are made of water

Started byJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
First post2016-03-06 11:14 -0800
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  Clouds are made of water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 11:14 -0800
    Re: Clouds are made of water Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-06 13:25 -0600
      Re: Clouds are made of water Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 11:50 -0800
        Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-07 00:57 +0100
          Re: Clouds are made of water Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 16:27 -0800
            Re: Clouds are made of water Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-06 19:40 -0600
            Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-07 03:52 +0100
              Re: Clouds are made of water Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 20:52 -0800
                Re: Clouds are made of water Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 08:13 -0600
                Re: Clouds are made of water Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 07:11 -0800
                Re: Clouds are made of water - Part II Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-07 17:45 +0100
                  Re: Clouds are made of water - Part II James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 09:35 -0800
                    Re: Clouds are made of water - Part II Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-07 20:14 +0100
                      Re: Clouds are made of water - Part II James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 11:37 -0800
                        Re: Clouds are made of water - Part II Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-07 17:30 -0600
                        Re: Clouds are made of water - Part II Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-08 06:55 +0100
                          Re: Clouds are made of water - Part II James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 22:18 -0800
                            Re: Clouds are made of water - Part II Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-08 08:15 +0100
                              Re: Clouds are made of water - Part II Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 05:36 +0800
                                Re: Clouds are made of water - Part II Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 05:34 +0100
                Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-07 18:01 +0100
                  Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 10:04 -0800
                    Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-08 17:39 +0100
                      Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 09:30 -0800
                        Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 05:54 +0100
                          Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 21:22 -0800
                            Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 19:11 +0100
                              Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-10 04:09 +0800
                                Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-09 12:12 -0800
                                  Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-09 20:23 +0000
                                Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-09 20:21 +0000
                                  Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-09 12:23 -0800
                                Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 06:59 +0100
                                  Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-10 17:59 +0800
                                    Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 18:21 +0100
                                      Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-11 02:19 +0800
                                        Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-11 07:55 +0100
                                          Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-11 21:58 +0800
                                            Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-11 10:07 -0800
                                            Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-13 07:17 +0100
                                      pretty clouds in cOOl shapes noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 19:04 -0800
                          Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A on!on@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-03-09 08:43 +0000
                        Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 07:30 +0100
                          Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 23:26 -0800
                            Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:53 -0600
                            Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:56 -0600
                            Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 09:04 -0600
                            Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 20:28 +0100
                      Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 02:34 +0800
                        Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-08 13:47 -0500
                          Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 03:33 +0800
                        Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 07:05 +0100
                          Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-09 05:39 -0700
                            Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 22:44 +0800
                              Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-09 08:51 -0800
                                Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-09 17:21 +0000
                                  Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-10 02:03 +0800
                                    Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-09 10:13 -0800
                                      Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-09 18:17 +0000
                                      Re: Mustaffa was Clouds are made of water - Part I buZZard <buzz@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-09 15:50 -0500
                                        Re: Mustaffa was Clouds are made of water - Part I Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-09 15:24 -0800
                                          Re: Mustaffa was Clouds are made of water - Part I buZZard <buzz@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-09 18:28 -0500
                                            Re: Mustaffa was Clouds are made of water - Part I Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-09 15:37 -0800
                                              Re: Mustaffa was Clouds are made of water - Part I buZZard <buzz@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-09 18:39 -0500
                                Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-09 12:36 -0500
                                  Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-10 02:06 +0800
                HOH is lighter than OO and NN noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 12:28 -0800
                  Re: HOH is lighter than OO and NN James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 12:57 -0800
                    Re: HOH is lighter than OO and NN noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 12:59 -0800
                      Re: HOH is lighter than OO and NN James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:04 -0800
                        Re: HOH is lighter than OO and NN noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:20 -0800
                          Re: HOH is lighter than OO and NN James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:24 -0800
                            two molecules of HOH is not lighter than OO and NN noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 19:01 -0800
                    Re: HOH is lighter than OO and NN Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-07 17:46 -0600
                      Re: HOH is lighter than OO and NN James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 16:03 -0800
                        Re: HOH is lighter than OO and NN Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-07 19:19 -0600
                    Re: HOH is lighter than OO and NN Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-08 06:50 +0100
                      Re: HOH is lighter than OO and NN James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 22:03 -0800
                        Re: HOH is lighter than OO and NN Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-08 08:26 +0100
              Re: Clouds are made of water Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-07 00:25 -0800
                Re: Clouds are made of water snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-07 08:39 +0000
                Re: Clouds are made of water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 00:46 -0800
                  Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-07 18:12 +0100
                    Re: Clouds are made of water "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-07 12:27 -0500
                    Re: Clouds are made of water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 10:09 -0800
                      Re: Clouds are made of water Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-07 14:33 -0600
                      Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-08 06:18 +0100
                        Re: Clouds are made of water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 21:49 -0800
                          Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-08 09:03 +0100
                            Re: Clouds are made of water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 00:57 -0800
                              Re: Clouds are made of water Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 00:30 +0800
                              Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-08 17:29 +0100
                                Re: Clouds are made of water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 08:50 -0800
                                  Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 05:59 +0100
                                    Re: Clouds are made of water "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-09 00:14 -0500
                                      Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 20:18 +0100
                                      Re: Clouds are made of water vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-09 23:43 +0000
                                        Re: Clouds are made of water "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-09 18:58 -0500
                                          Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 04:43 +0100
                                            Re: Clouds are made of water "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-09 23:53 -0500
                                            Re: Clouds are made of water snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-10 09:44 +0000
                                              Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 18:26 +0100
                                                Re: Clouds are made of water snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-10 17:59 +0000
                                                  Re: Clouds are made of water Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-11 02:03 +0800
                                                  Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-11 08:29 +0100
                                                    Re: Clouds are made of water snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-11 07:48 +0000
                                                      Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-13 06:54 +0100
                                                        Re: Clouds are made of water snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-13 08:20 +0000
                                                          Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 05:27 +0100
                                    Re: Clouds are made of water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 21:25 -0800
                                      Re: Clouds are made of water Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-08 23:45 -0600
                Re: Clouds are made of water Ty Foyd <death@spank.666> - 2016-03-07 05:27 -0500
                  Re: Clouds are made of water Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-07 08:25 -0800
                    Re: Clouds are made of water Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-07 10:54 -0600
                      Re: Clouds are made of water Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-09 05:15 +0800
                Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-07 17:03 +0100
                Re: Clouds are made of water "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-03-07 17:35 -0500
                  Re: Clouds are made of water Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-07 17:56 -0800
                  Re: Clouds are made of water Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-08 06:40 +0100
                    Re: Clouds are made of water Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-07 22:05 -0800
                Re: Clouds are made of water "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-03-07 20:08 -0500
                  Re: Clouds are made of water Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-07 17:56 -0800
                    Re: Clouds are made of water "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-03-07 20:58 -0500
                      Re: Clouds are made of water Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-07 18:27 -0800
                        Re: Clouds are made of water "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-03-07 21:30 -0500
                          Re: Clouds are made of water Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-07 18:34 -0800
                    Re: Clouds are made of water "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 10:05 -0800
    Re: Clouds are made of water Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 17:18 -0600
    Re: Clouds are made of water Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-07 19:49 +1100
      Re: Clouds are made of water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:04 -0800
        Re: Clouds are made of water Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-07 21:34 +1100
    Re: Clouds are made of water Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 03:04 -0800
      Re: Clouds are made of water Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 08:12 -0600
      Re: Clouds are made of water James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 08:44 -0800
        Re: Clouds are made of water Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-07 10:58 -0600

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#561379 — pretty clouds in cOOl shapes

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-10 19:04 -0800
Subjectpretty clouds in cOOl shapes
Message-ID<ae46f0e9-47e6-44be-a11b-428d7dd78a56@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#561171
hey, gOOd observation;
can solvinGTomatoes, read

> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen 
> with that of the oxygen atom in a water molecule and prove that PhD 
> professor of applied sciences wrong, eh, Moron? LOL
> 
> <http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/water_molecule.html>
> London South Bank University - Physics Department
> Martin Chaplin BSc PhD CChem FRSC
> Emeritus Professor of Applied Science
> 111 peer-reviewed studies published
> 3 books published
> 3 patents granted
> ==================================================
> Due to the relatively large positive charge on the oxygen atom nucleus
> (8+) and the closeness of its electrons, the oxygen atom attracts
> electrons much more strongly (i.e. is much more electronegative) than
> the hydrogen atoms (1+). This results in a charge transfer from the
> hydrogen atoms towards the oxygen atom and, hence, the polarity of the
> water molecule.
> 
> Early 5-point molecular models, with explicit negative charge where
> the lone pairs are purported to be, fared poorly in describing
> hydrogen bonding, but more recent models show some promise. Although
> there is no apparent consensus of opinion [116], such descriptions of
> substantial sp3-hybridized lone pairs in the isolated water molecule
> should perhaps be avoided [117], as an sp2-hybridized structure (plus
> a pz orbital) is indicated.
> 
> The molecule H2O has 10 electrons associated, 8 from the oxygen atom
> and one each from the two hydrogen atoms.
> ==================================================
> 
> And all of the above backed up by 2517 peer-reviewed studies by people
> far smarter and saner than you, Moron.
> 
> SPNAK!
> 
> I bet you wish you could be right just once, huh, Moron.
> 
> <snicker>
> 
> -- 
> 
> Shiny Tinfoil Brain (aka Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) didn't know:
> =====================================
> The Euler equation is a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
> Formulas, thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which
> should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* to create
> *sinusoids*);
> 
> That cross correlation is used with Fourier transforms;
> 
> That superposition is the same as wave interference;
> 
> That wave interference works the same for standing or traveling waves;
> 
> That RMS and peak-to-peak voltage are two different things;
> 
> That RMS isn't a DC voltage;
> 
> That 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service gives 208.207
> volts RMS L-L;
> 
> That 4444525800 != 4400000000 != 1;
> 
> The difference between frequency and period of a sinewave;
> 
> That there's no difference between 'i' and 'j' in electrical
> engineering, physics and control systems engineering;
> 
> What a positive or negative vector is;
> 
> That the vector sum of 3-phase AC constitutes a closed loop per
> Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, thus that the three phases sum to zero;
> 
> That "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic";
> 
> That his claim: "Water is tetrahedral. It actually has 4 poles, 2
> positive and 2 negative." is nonsense from a blathering moron.
> 
> That water does not have negative poles. The oxygen has an
> electronegativity of 8+, the hydrogens 1+.
> 
> That the term "electronegativity" denotes a *positive* nucleal charge.
> 
> What the definition of the word "equivalent" is.
> 
> That digital voltmeters do indeed take discrete instantaneous samples.
> 
> And the moron continues to demonstrate his inability to read a graph.
> =====================================
> 
> SPNAK!
> 
> <snicker>

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#560714 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A

Fromon!on@anon.invalid (Mr On!on)
Date2016-03-09 08:43 +0000
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart A
Message-ID<1mju5gv.polzrytx4ngjN%on!on@anon.invalid>
In reply to#560655
Snickerturd the Fake Neighborhood Vote Wanker Ersatzus
<FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> consulted his Tricorder then wrote:

> life, Jim...

... but not as we know it.

-- 
  \|/ 
(((Ï)))               Mr On!on, earnest seeker after truth
 

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#560699 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-09 07:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B
Message-ID<deef586f0db89cc6d8cc5b17af613eee@dizum.com>
In reply to#560371
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James McGinn, in
<news:8d251d04-1985-4e03-8cb6-29552ed00ae0@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:49:50 AM UTC-8,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>>>> Wrong. Any vapor below its Critical Temperature will have both vapor
>>>> *and* gaseous phase.

>>> Too bad you can't prove this.  

>> Sure I can prove it... in fact, that's how weather forecasters and 
>> climate researchers determine cloud depth.

> Why don't you see if Al Gore can help you then. LOL.

Non sequiturs are the *best* James McGinn can come up with as defense
of his kooky conspiracy theory... his tacit admission of defeat.

>> Oh, Jim didn't realize that 
>> water in its gaseous phase, water in its liquid phase and water in its 
>> solid phase would reflect and refract different wavelengths, did he?
>> 
>> Water in its gaseous phase reflects and refracts microwave radiation 
>> at a far lower rate than does, say, the water vapor in clouds. Thus 
>> the differential tells researchers cloud depth as well as humidity.

> If you think it definitive then why not make an argument to that effect?

I just did, Jim. The multi-frequency split-window technique to
determine cloud optical depth and atmospheric humidity has been used
for years by NASA, Jim.

> But it has to be definitive.  No Global-warming-reasoning will be accepted.

Um, Jim? You're talking to the guy who proved that CO2-driven AGW
violates the Laws of Thermodynamics, and thus is a fairy tale. CO2 has
been proven by NASA to be a global *cooling* gas.

>> Did you never stop to consider why, exactly, water in its gaseous 
>> phase exists primarily in the troposphere, whereas carbon dioxide and 
>> nitrogen, for example, can rise far above the troposphere, Jim?

> Yes:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl-GOPq8aA0

Referring back to your own kooky conspiracy theory blather is like
standing in an echo chamber screaming at the top of your lungs and
taking the echoes as confirmation of your kooky blathering, Jim. It's
an indication of mental instability and a burgeoning schizoid
paranoiac insanity. Seek immediate professional psychiatric
intervention, Jim.

>> Did you never stop to consider why water can go *below* its freezing 
>> temperature after being updrafted into the upper troposphere, yet not 
>> immediately fall out of the sky (hint: because it's in its gaseous 
>> phase... individual molecules... 

> Wrong.  It' is always liquid or solid (ice).  It is never gaseous.

Wrong. I've presented *two* peer-reviewed studies proving the
existence of monomolecular gaseous-phase water in the atmosphere, Jim.

Max Planck Institute for Polymer Research
<http://www.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/molecular_mechanism_of_water_evaporation>
=================================================
A water molecule is typically tied to three or four other molecules in
the liquid through strong hydrogen bonds. At the surface, this number
is reduced, and in order to evaporate the molecule must break at least
one hydrogen bond. However, this requires substantial energy, and the
obvious question is: "How do evaporating water molecules gain
sufficient energy to break the strong hydrogen bond?" To answer this,
the researchers watched molecules evaporate in their molecular movies,
and inspected the evaporating molecules' trajectories. They found that
an ejected molecule always gains its kinetic energy through a precise
interaction with two other molecules. It always had a violent
collision with a fast-moving molecule just prior to leaving the
liquid. This fast-moving molecule, further study showed, was
interacting strongly with a third molecule, femtoseconds prior to the
evaporation process, in a way that was crucial to the evaporation
process. As such, the evaporation process can be viewed as a Newton's
cradle, where momentum is transferred to the surface from below, in a
well-timed manner, to kick off one water molecule.
=================================================

"one water molecule", Jim. Evaporation is a molecule-by-molecule
process, meaning that water in its gaseous phase is entering the
atmosphere, meaning water in its gaseous phase is in the atmosphere,
meaning your kooky challenge has been met and the proof has been
provided, meaning the underlying premise of your kooky theory has been
utterly destroyed, meaning you  owe me $100,000, Jim. You *will* pay,
Jim.

<snicker>

Whooopsie... *another* peer-reviewed study proving monomer gaseous
water exists in the atmosphere:
<http://archiv.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/volltextserver/6686/>
=========================================================
Superimposed on the water monomer absorption, a water continuum
absorption has long been recognized, but its true nature still remains
controversial.
=========================================================

That not only meets the terms of your kooky challenge (again), Jim,
thereby triggering your paying me that offered $100,000 which you
promised in a publicly announced and therefore legally binding
challenge, but it utterly destroys your kooky theory *and* proves
you're a moronic kooktard, Jim.

<snicker>

>> According to you, since you k'lame 
>> all water in the atmosphere is clustered, it would be heavier than air 
>> and would thus all fall out of the air once its mass exceeded its 
>> downward-facing combined radius holding it up due to updraft... 

> I address this point in my videos.

Your kooky conspiracy theory videos are merely the outgrowth of your
kooky written conspiracy theory, Jim. The same retarded tripe in a
different form. IOW, you have nothing in your arsenal to refute the
peer-reviewed studies I presented with utterly *destroyed* your kooky
conspiracy theory.

>> thus 
>> rainfall would be next to impossible, the lower troposphere would 
>> perpetually be enveloped in falling mist, and every horizontal surface 
>> would be perpetually covered with a film of water.

> Right.  Based on meteorology's assumptions clouds should drop out of
> the sky like bricks.  Right?  But they don't. Why do you think that is?

Wrong, that's according to your wrong interpretation of meteorology's
assumptions. The reality of physical phenomena such as clouds has been
explained to you, including links to corroborable data. You snipped it
out and ran away from it because you're a delusional paranoiac
suffering from the crippling effects of Dunning-Kruger.

>> Are you beginning to understand that you don't understand much at all, 
>> Jim? Are you beginning to see that you conceived of your kooky little 
>> theory and ran off half-cocked, crowing about your "discovery" without 
>> fully testing its premises, Jim?

> You exemplify the dimwittedness of meteorological assumptions.

That must be why you find yourself utterly unable to refute any of
that peer-reviewed data, right, Jim? Everyone else is crazy and *you*
are the only sane one. Everyone else who has years of training and
experience is wrong, but *you*, a high school dropout kooktard who has
demonstrated his stupidity repeatedly, are the only one who is right.

Yeah, that makes sense, Jim. Right?

Why can't you get your kooky conspiracy theory through the peer-review
process, Jim? Answer the question, you evasive twit.

>>>> Then you'll have no problem providing a microscopy printout of these
>>>> so-called "small droplets", Jim. Do you even own a microscope?

>>> So, now you are conceding that you don't have counterevidence?

>> I've just provided yet another peer reviewed study

> Yet you are conceding that it is not conclusive, right?

I "conceded" no such thing, Jim. It is a peer-reviewed study which
utterly decimates your kooky conspiracy theory. Do you not understand
what the peer-review process entails, Jim? Oh, of course you don't...
you can't get your kooky conspiracy theory through the peer-review
process, nor can you even get your kooky conspiracy theory published
on any pre-print servers. Why can't you get your kooky conspiracy
theory through the peer-review process, Jim? Answer the question, you
evasive twit.

>>> Ever heard of the scientific method?

>> Sure I have, which is why I've been offering evidence consisting of 
>> peer reviewed studies... 

> Peer review is consensus.  Consensus is politics.  (I am not a
> climate scientist.)  Only empirical evidence is valid if you
> want to collect the money. Sorry to burst your bubble.  I thought
> this was obvious.  Sorry if you got the wrong idea.

Ah, another goalpost move from the evasive twit James McGinn. Well,
it's a good thing I've presented empirical evidence such as you taking
a trip from sea level to the top of Mt. Everest with a container of
water, eh, Jim? That also disproves your kooky theory. So you'll be
paying up. Now.

>>>> Wrong, but nice CAPSscreed, Jim. The two acceptor bonds are to two
>>>> *different* water molecules. 

>>> No duh.

>> Then breaking one will not affect the other, KookTard.

> It affects the symmetry on the Oxygen molecule, dumbass.

No, it doesn't. It affects the diametrically-opposed covalent bond,
shortening it, as I've proven via two peer-reviewed studies, which you
snipped out and ran away from, Jim.

<http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/water_hydrogen_bonding.html>
"There is a trade-off between the covalent and hydrogen bond
strengths; the stronger the H····O hydrogen bond, the weaker the O-H
covalent bond, and the shorter the O····O distance"

Note the graph... the covalent bond remains shorter (and stronger)
than the inter-molecular H bond. Because the inter-molecular H bond is
~1/20th the strength of the covalent bond, the diametrically-opposite
covalent bond will preferentially shorten and strengthen when one of
the inter-molecular bonds is broken, Jim. That's why, when using high
frequency AC to dissociate water, you target the short covalent bond
frequency, as the long covalent bond frequency is too close to the H
bond frequency, and if you break that, you strengthen the covalent
bonds.

You are *wrong*. Your kooky theory is *wrong*. The entire underlying
premise of your kooky theory is fallacious. I've just destroyed your
kooky theory, Jim. Now what will you do?

<http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/water_hydrogen_bonding.html>
"The movement of electrons from the oxygen atom to the O-H antibonding
orbital on a neighboring molecule (HO-H-····OH2) both weaken the
covalent O-H bond (so lengthening it ) and reduces the HO-H····OH2
'hydrogen' bond."

Hence, when that inter-molecular H bond is broken, the diametrically
opposed covalent bond is shortened and strengthened, Jim. This has
been known and is well-exploited when building HHO welders for a great
number of years, Jim. That's why, when dissociating water, you don't
target the long covalent bond, as the resonant frequency required to
break that covalent bond is too close to the inter-molecular H bond
resonant frequency, and breaking that would strengthen the covalent
bond opposite, thereby costing more energy in dissociating the water.

Again, your  lack of understanding of physical processes stems in part
from your broken delusional Dunning-Kruger afflicted brain rejecting
any information from those you deem to be of higher authority than you
(which would be pretty much everyone), and in part from your lack of
education. Both conditions together lead you off into the brambles of
your kooky discredited conspiracy theory, and both can be ameliorated
by subjecting yourself to those very same psychiatric and educational
authorities your broken brain rejects... hence you'll remain
delusional for the remainder of your pathetic life, Jim... but you'll
find your delusion and hence your insanity grows until it destroys
your life. Fix yourself, Jim, or suffer the same fate of every other
D-K sufferer.

<snicker>

>>> You are ignoring symmetry, to no good effect.  

>> You don't even know what 'symmetry' means, Jim, 

> Look into VESPR theory.  

Oh, trust me, Jim. I know about VESPR theory. You're still misusing
the word 'symmetry', Jim.

>>> I understand polarity better than anybody

>> No, you don't. You're a moronic delusional Dunning-Kruger afflicted 
>> kooktard who believes himself to know polarity better than anybody, 
>> but you demonstrate daily that in reality you know squat, Jim.

> Actually I do.

Actually, you don't, as the data above proves, Jim.

>>>> In fact, the H bonding gets *weaker* when one is knocked loose.

>>> Surface tension proves you wrong and me right.

>> You've already been proven wrong below, Jim. 

> Explain surface tension using your model.  Go ahead.
> What are you waiting for?

The surface condition is a special case, Jim, so I'm not surprised you 
don't know about it.

<http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/interfacial_water.html>
=====================================================
Analysis of simple thermodynamics c shows the surface has considerable 
structuring, having identical density to that of bulk water at just 
under 4 °C. In addition, the surface water structuring varies less 
with temperature than the bulk. Refractive index study of the 
water-air surface reveals it to be about 1.7 nm thick at 22 °C and 
more dense than the bulk liquid (that is, it behaves like water at a 
lower temperature).
=====================================================

So the "surface tension" is a result of the increased viscosity of the 
interfacial water, Jim. Did you not know this, Jim? What kind of loon 
would hold themselves out as the 'premiere expert' on water, and yet 
not know a single fact *about* water, Jim?

>>> If what you are saying is true H2O would have no surface tension.  

>> The surface condition is a special case, Jim, so I'm not surprised you 
>> don't know about it.
>> 
>> <http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/interfacial_water.html>
>> =====================================================
>> Analysis of simple thermodynamics c shows the surface has considerable 
>> structuring, having identical density to that of bulk water at just 
>> under 4 ?C. In addition, the surface water structuring varies less 
>> with temperature than the bulk. Refractive index study of the 
>> water-air surface reveals it to be about 1.7 nm thick at 22 ?C and 
>> more dense than the bulk liquid (that is, it behaves like water at a 
>> lower temperature).
>> =====================================================
>> 
>> So the "surface tension" is a result of the increased viscosity of the 
>> interfacial water, 

> Your explanation of surface tension is ad hoc. It's not intrinsic.
> You just tacked it on. It's worthless. 

That explanation is backed up by 2517 peer-reviewed studies, you
fecking nong. It's been vetted and proven to reflect reality.

Why can't you get your kooky conspiracy theory through the peer-review
process, Jim? Answer the question, you evasive twit.

>>> That's a model, dumbass.  That is not reality.
>>> That is a (poorly considered) attempt to explain what is observed.
>>> So, only a loon would employ that as proof.

>> That model happens to be the model that is accepted

> It's still just a model, dumbass.  Model's are not evidence.
> That you use a model as evidence reveals your dimwittedness.

It is a model which explains all physical phenomenon of water, Jim.
Backed up by 2517 peer-reviewed studies. How many studies back up your
kooky conspiracy theory, Jim?

Oh, that's right, ZERO. In fact, you can't even get your kooky
conspiracy theory itself through the peer-review process. Why is that,
Jim? Answer the question, you evasive twit.

>>> Descriptive models don't dispute reality, dumbass.
>>> Then do the experiment that prove it.  

>> Kooktard keeps asking for "experiments", when that data has been known 
>> for a very long time... 

> As you are revealing, none of it is definitive.

It is, you're just backpedaling away from the fact that your kooky
conspiracy theory has been utterly destroyed, Jim.

>> I'll let you do this experiment, Jim. Carry a beaker of water to sea 
>> level, heat it to 100 C. You'll note the water gaseous pressure is 
>> sufficient to overcome the 760 mm Hg atmospheric pressure.
>> 
>> Now allow the water to cool to 70 C, you'll note the vapor pressure is 
>> insufficient to overcome the 750 mm Hg atmospheric pressure, so 
>> boiling does not occur, 

> Boiling stops below 100, dumbass.

Very good, Jim! At least you can acknowledge reality when it suits you
to do so. So we know you're not fully delusional... yet.

>> yet evaporation does occur.

> Evaporation occurs all the way do to freezing, dumbass.

Very good again, Jim! In fact, it occurs even *below* the freezing
point, Jim. Or are you going to now deny sublimation?

>> Now, while maintaining that water at 70 C, carry it to the top of Mt. 
>> Everest. You'll note that as you rise in altitude, the water will 
>> again begin boiling, despite the temperature of the water only being 
>> 70 C.

> You're an idiot.

I've proven your kooky theory is *wrong*, Jim. You're the idiot.

>> Hence, boiling and evaporation are the same process,

> Surreal.

I'm sure you do find reality to be "surreal", Jim... Dunning-Kruger
sufferers often do. It's part and parcel of your burgeoning insanity.
You can fix yourself, it's not too late. All it requires is
acknowledging that your kooky conspiracy theory has been utterly
destroyed, and thereby escaping its insanity-inducing grip.

I don't think you're strong enough to do that, Jim.

<snicker>

-- 

Kensi the moron wrote:
================================
The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2, and its area is 4*pi*r^2, so
the curvature is 4*pi
================================

Kensi the moron said the Gaussian curvature = 1 / r^2 *and* the
Gaussian curvature = 4 * pi.

Therefore, 1 / r^2 = 4 * pi
Therefore, r = 0.28209479176

Kensi the moron says every sphere in the entire universe has a radius
of 0.28209479176. Of course, being a moron, kensi didn't specify the
units.

The moron also said the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is dependent
upon that sphere's radius. Wholly incorrect.

Kensi the moron was corrected:
================================
Did... did you just say "the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2" *and* "the
Gaussian curvature = 4*pi" therefore "1/r^2 = 4*pi"? Now you
backpedal, LunkHead.

You mean the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2 * (4*pi*r^2) therefore =
(4*pi), and therefore the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is
independent of r due to its symmetry, thereby proving your original
"The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2" blather *wrong*?
================================

But Kensi the moron persists in insisting that what he wrote isn't
fucked up, and that the Gaussian curvature of a sphere *does* depend
upon its radius, because he doesn't understand the equations he's
trying to use, he doesn't know the difference between 'constant
curvature' and 'Gaussian curvature', he doesn't know what an integral
is, and he's a halfwit who can't figure out even basic geometry
problems.

Now remember, this is the same moron who k'lames he's an
astrophysicist... yet he's stated that the Riemann curvature tensor
concept being the central mathematical tool in the theory of general
relativity and the modern theory of gravity, and the curvature of
space-time being described by the geodesic deviation equation, is
"science fiction" and "a howler".

In addition, the moron k'lamed that 4-D Minkowski space-time was
mostly positive Gaussian curvature, with only small areas of negative
Gaussian curvature, which proves the moron has no idea of the effects
of mass or magnetism upon the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold.

He has k'lamed that the Gaussian curvature of the universe is
predominantly positive, which means Lunkhead believes that massive
objects such as planets, stars and black holes ride *above* the
tangential plane of the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, thereby
making the planes of principal curvature positive Gaussian curvature,
and thus causing gravity to *repel*. It also means LunkHead believes
the universe to be finite, and therefore it cannot be expanding.

Lunkhead the moron has k'lamed that magnetism has "*no* effect" upon
the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, then backpedaled and said there
was a "small amount of positive curvature due to the energy density in
the field", thereby proving he doesn't know how magnetism affects the
4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, and denies the existence of
magnetic attraction.

Thus, Kensi the moron has described a universe in which planets could
not maintain their orbits, a universe in which magnets could not work,
and therefore a universe which could not exist.

Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow at a colder temperature
than the surrounding atmosphere is somehow violating the First and
Second Laws of Thermodynamics and giving off "blackbody radiation".

Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow gives off "blackbody
radiation" at wavelengths that would put the temperature of the snow
at 489 F.

Kensi attempted to back up his kooky k'lame above by further k'laming
that snow emits at wavelengths which correspond to a variety of
temperatures, presumably from 489 F to -422 F, because the moron
doesn't understand that the Planck curve breaks down under certain
circumstances, meaning snow emits in accordance with the Wien
Displacement Law in a ~2.1251 micron window centered on the ~11-micron
infrared atmospheric window, not Planck's curve.

Kensi is the same moron who first denied the existence of the
~11-micron infrared atmospheric window, then backpedaled and k'lamed
that snow emitted outside that ~11-micron window, and was proven
wrong. Then the spankard moron tried to use the backpedal of
"blackbody radiation" being at a different wavelength than spectral
emission, yet again demonstrating that the moron has no clue how
spectral absorption and emission works.

Kensi is the same moron who k'lamed heat flows from cooler to warmer;
that in a solid, molecules are "flying-and-bouncing-around-the-place",
that heat is "stirring up the molecules" and putting the molecules on
a "somewhat different trajectory", thereby demonstrating that LunkHead
cannot even grasp such basic topics as what heat is.

Kensi is the same moron who denies the NASA SABER study proving that
CO2 is a global *cooling* gas _because_ of the ~11-micron infrared
atmospheric window.

The reality exposed by the NASA SABER study also proves the Klimate
Katastrophe Kook Anthropogenic Global Warming k'lame of CO2 being a
global warming gas is a fairy tale that violates the First and Second
Laws of Thermodynamics, thus destroying CO2-induced AGW, yet this same
moron continues to cling to his delusions.

Kensi is the same moron who continues to cling to his delusion that
global warming causes more intense hurricanes, despite three
peer-reviewed studies proving the exact opposite.

Kensi is not an astrophysicist, he's far too stupid to be. He's just a
lumpy dumpy frumpy slumpy shroomtard loser trying to pretend that he's
intelligent... and failing badly.

That would be because Kensi is a moron with an underpowered brain that
struggles (and fails) to understand reality.

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#560707 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-08 23:26 -0800
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B
Message-ID<ed889e28-9a3a-4a6f-b026-274444437473@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#560699
On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 10:40:59 PM UTC-8, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

> Um, Jim? You're talking to the guy who proved that CO2-driven AGW
> violates the Laws of Thermodynamics, and thus is a fairy tale. CO2 has
> been proven by NASA to be a global *cooling* gas.

There are thousands of peer review studies that say CO2 causes global warming, right?  As you have realized, peer review without substance is worthless.  Do you agree?  So stop telling me you have peer-review and admit you have no substance. You've presented no definitive evidence that H2O is gaseous in the atmosphere.  All you have is general ignorance of the subject matter, (worthless) anecdotal-based peer-review, unrestrained imagination, and a bad attitude.  To me you are indistinguishable from a believer in global warming--honestly. You talk just like them.

Facts are facts.  And the facts are that nobody has ever detected gaseous H2O in earth's atmosphere.  Nobody. As Feynman said, it doesn't matter what people believe or what their title is or how many of them there are, if it disagrees with experiment it is wrong.  The best experimental evidence we have clearly delineates the boiling point of water.   And our atmosphere is too cool.  

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#560750 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-09 08:53 -0600
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B
Message-ID<WeOdnUXFp4dnpX3LnZ2dnUU7-XkAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#560707
On 3/9/16 1:26 AM, James McGinn wrote:
> Facts are facts.  And the facts are that nobody has ever detected gaseous H2O in earth's atmosphere.


   Don't be silly, James. Gaseous H2O is a major player in the Earth's
   Troposphere.

   Remember: "A measure of the water vapor content of the air is called
   humidity. It is most often expressed as a ratio of the amount of
   water vapor present in a given volume (parcel) of air compared to the
   total amount of water vapor which that same unit of air could
   actually hold. This ratio we call relative humidity and it is always
   expressed as a percentage. When the relative humidity reaches 100%,
   the air has become saturated and water vapor will begin to condense
   into liquid water or ice crystals".

   "Relative humidity can be measured with a hygrometer or a
   psychrometer. Hygrometers designed for home use are often found
   mounted together with two other weather instruments, a thermometer to
   measure room air temperature and a barometer to measure air pressure".



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#560751 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-09 08:56 -0600
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B
Message-ID<WeOdnUTFp4c0pH3LnZ2dnUU7-XmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#560707
On 3/9/16 1:26 AM, James McGinn wrote:
> Facts are facts.  And the facts are that nobody has ever detected gaseous H2O in earth's atmosphere.



NIST 'Combs' the Atmosphere to Measure Greenhouse Gases
> http://www.nist.gov/pml/div686/20141029_greenhouse_comb.cfm

> In the recent demonstration, NIST's pair of laser frequency combs
> measured the simultaneous signatures of several greenhouse
> gases—including carbon dioxide, methane and *water vapor* along a
> 2-kilometer path between a NIST laboratory roof in Boulder, Colo.,
> and a nearby mesa.



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#560752 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-09 09:04 -0600
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B
Message-ID<WeOdnUfFp4fvpn3LnZ2dnUU7-XkAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#560707
On 3/9/16 1:26 AM, James McGinn wrote:
> Facts are facts.  And the facts are that nobody has ever detected gaseous H2O in earth's atmosphere.


   Greenhouse gases
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas#Greenhouse_gases

> Greenhouse gases are those that absorb and emit infrared radiation in
> the wavelength range emitted by Earth. In order, the most abundant
> greenhouse gases in Earth's atmosphere are:
>
> Water vapor (H2O)
> Carbon dioxide (CO2)
> Methane (CH4)
> Nitrous oxide (N2O)
> Ozone (O3)
> Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs)



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#560882 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-09 20:28 +0100
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I - Subpart B
Message-ID<0d6b1332baad53f3e37672c6c4d115ef@dizum.com>
In reply to#560707
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James McGinn, in
<news:ed889e28-9a3a-4a6f-b026-274444437473@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 10:40:59 PM UTC-8,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>> Um, Jim? You're talking to the guy who proved that CO2-driven AGW
>> violates the Laws of Thermodynamics, and thus is a fairy tale. CO2 has
>> been proven by NASA to be a global *cooling* gas.

> Th<SMACKAKOOK!>

Poor stupid James McGinn is bleating again because he has no defense
against my latest destruction of his kooky conspiracy theory. LOL

================================================

I've destroyed the central tenet of your kooky conspiracy theory, 
James. You and your kooky theory no longer have a leg to stand on.

I've proven your kooky conspiracy theory is a physical impossibility. 
That's, what? The 5th avenue I've used to utterly destroy your kooky 
conspiracy theory?

Do you not understand what plasma is, you fecking nong? If plasma 
existed in the trophosphere, the electromagnetic interference from 
that electromagnetic plasma would make radio communication nigh well 
impossible. If plasma existed in the troposphere, we'd see lightning 
strikes right out of the blue... but you're the moron who never 
stopped to consider *why* lightning always comes from moving air near 
clouds or other sources of moisture... because you're the moron who 
knew nothing of the Triboelectric Effect until I schooled you. Nor, 
apparently, were you aware that water is a dielectric until I schooled 
you.

Plasma does not exist in our atmosphere except in the plasmasphere, 
just outside the upper ionosphere, just inside the magnetosphere. 
That's a minimum of 48 miles above the tropopause.

For clouds, there is no plasma involved in their apparent buoyancy. 
It's merely that the droplet size is sufficiently small (from a few 
microns to a few tens of microns) that the droplets have no 
appreciable fall velocity in light of random air movements and 
updraft. The fall speed is related to the droplet's mass and surface 
area. A roughly spherical droplet has a mass proportional to its 
radius cubed. The downward-facing surface area of such a droplet is 
proportional to the radius squared. Thus, as that tiny micron-sized 
water droplet grows, its mass becomes more important. At a droplet 
radius of 100 microns (an order of magnitude larger than the largest 
average droplet size), the fall velocity is only ~27 cm/s. Thus they 
stay suspended because clouds generally form in areas where air which 
is laden with gaseous water (and is thus less dense) rises, offsetting 
the fall velocity. As the altitude increases, the temperature falls, 
thus the water carrying capacity of that air drops, thus the gaseous 
phase water condenses into those tiny droplets, those tiny droplets 
grow, and eventually the ratio of droplet mass:downward-facing surface 
area is sufficient for that droplet to overcome the updraft and fall 
to the ground. Which is why different cloud types (caused by different 
updraft speeds) cause different types of rain.

Stratiform clouds (those producing steady rain) typically form in an 
environment with widespread but weak upward motion (say, a few cm/s); 
convective clouds (those causing showers and thunderstorms) are 
associated with updrafts that exceed a few meters per second.

For clear sky, the relative humidity proves that there is water in its 
fully gaseous phase in the air, given that water is miscible in air 
down to ~-60 C. Sublimation further proves this fact. The speed of 
sound being faster in the less-dense air laden with gaseous water as 
compared to dry air further proves this fact. The relative density of 
air laden with gaseous phase water being less than dry air further 
proves this fact.

Your contention that lightning is caused by your purported plasma is 
another easily disproved kook contention... the upward draft in areas 
where cloud formation is prevalent also contributes to creating 
lightning ... this can be proven by the fact that tribocharging (the 
Triboelectric Effect, a form of contact electrification) is caused by 
rubbing a dielectric such as a balloon or comb... water is a 
dielectric. So lightning is nothing more than an updraft-induced 
tribocharging. This is why NASA cancels launches if the space vehicle 
being launched has to fly through certain types of clouds, because the 
P-static (precipitation static) would interfere with communication and 
telemetry, and particularly the mission-critical flight termination 
signals should something go wrong. NASA calls this their 
Triboelectrification Rule. This is why convective clouds are typically 
the only type of clouds to exhibit lightning... the updraft is faster, 
thus the Triboelectrification Effect is stronger.

So... given the above, I'm sure you can figure out for yourself which 
types of clouds would trigger NASA's Triboelectrification Rule, right?

As regards your kooky claim that water forms a plasma in the 
atmosphere (which means you must be talking about the troposphere, 
given that's where nearly all clouds form except for the high, thin, 
wispy nacreous and noctilucent clouds):

<http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-02/983243860.Ph.r.html>
=========================================================
It has been measured that to create any degree of ionization in a 
water vapor atmosphere you need to have electrons with energy of at 
least around 12 electron volts. (See Ref. below) That means that if 
you want to ionize the water (make a plasma) by thermal energy only 
you must impart enough thermal energy to get a lot of electrons of 
energy about 12 electron volts of higher.  That means the water 
molecules will have to be heated up to an excitation level of about 
this magnitude.   For a water molecule to be heated to this excitation 
energy we are talking about a temperature of about 12,000 degrees K. 
So if you could heat the water to this temperature you would begin to 
make such a plasma.
=========================================================

Do you know what 12 eV entails, Jim? That'd entail photons of 103.32 
nm, a frequency of 2.9016e15 Hz, extremely energetic ultraviolet 
light, nearly in the x-ray range.

And that's the *minimum* required to even create *any* degree of 
plasma from water... you're claiming *all* the water in the atmosphere 
is plasma.

Only 3% of the ultraviolet light from the sun makes its way through 
the atmosphere to the trophosphere, Jim, most of it far less 
energetic, ranging upwards of 400 nm.

In fact, because ultraviolet shorter than 121 nm ionizes air so 
strongly, it is absorbed far above the troposphere, hence, water 
plasma *cannot* exist in the troposphere, where the overwhelming 
majority of atmospheric water is (and hence where all clouds are 
except for those wispy nacreous and noctilucent clouds), Jim.

Do you not understand that therefore there is no plasma in the 
troposphere, and thus your kooky conspiracy theory is the mad ranting 
of an uneducated goof trying to pretend that he's a physicist because 
he took an elective Basic Meteorology class once, when really you're 
just a delusional kooktard?

So yet again via yet another avenue, I utterly destroy your kooky 
conspiracy theory, Jim. That's reality. Deal with it.

<snicker>

See how simple things are when one is sane, Jim? See how much sense 
that all makes? The world (indeed, the universe) doesn't work by kooky 
conspiracies and impossibilities as you claim, Jim, it works by a set 
of immutable rules. Learn those rules, Jim, and stop being such a 
fucking moron.

-- 

Shiny Tinfoil Brain (aka Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) didn't know:
=====================================
The Euler equation is a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
Formulas, thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which
should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* to create
*sinusoids*);

That cross correlation is used with Fourier transforms;

That superposition is the same as wave interference;

That wave interference works the same for standing or traveling waves;

That RMS and peak-to-peak voltage are two different things;

That RMS isn't a DC voltage;

That 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service gives 208.207
volts RMS L-L;

That 4444525800 != 4400000000 != 1;

The difference between frequency and period of a sinewave;

That there's no difference between 'i' and 'j' in electrical
engineering, physics and control systems engineering;

What a positive or negative vector is;

That the vector sum of 3-phase AC constitutes a closed loop per
Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, thus that the three phases sum to zero;

That "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic";

That his claim: "Water is tetrahedral. It actually has 4 poles, 2
positive and 2 negative." is nonsense from a blathering moron.

That water does not have negative poles. The oxygen has an
electronegativity of 8+, the hydrogens 1+.

That the term "electronegativity" denotes a *positive* nucleal charge.

What the definition of the word "equivalent" is.

And the moron continues to demonstrate his inability to read a graph.
=====================================

SPNAK!

<snicker>

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#560399 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I

FromBite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future>
Date2016-03-09 02:34 +0800
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<hh6udbh2774fu7dh6vt65tvi4dier3qaet@4ax.com>
In reply to#560359
Fakey wrote:

> Why are you so stupid, Jim? People far smarter than you have figured 
> all this out long before you conceived of your kooky discredited 
> theory, Jim.

Do you really think that heaping abuse on your fellow kook
will persuade him to give you $100,000?

Why are you so stupid, Fakey?

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#560403 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I

From"\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1>
Date2016-03-08 13:47 -0500
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<op.yd0rtsuztm21m2@benson.localhost>
In reply to#560399
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 13:34:08 -0500, Bite My Shiny Metal Ass  
<bender@the.future> wrote:

> Fakey wrote:
>
>> Why are you so stupid, Jim? People far smarter than you have figured
>> all this out long before you conceived of your kooky discredited
>> theory, Jim.
>
> Do you really think that heaping abuse on your fellow kook
> will persuade him to give you $100,000?
>
> Why are you so stupid, Fakey?

i'm sure if anybody knows it would be him.  he can explain it all in  
another frothy bleatfest.

-- 
"sines, sines, everywhere there's sines
blocking up the snickerTurds, breaking his mind"
http://imgur.com/a/yMFsu

-

FNVWe attempts to rewrite physics texts in Message-ID:  
<3dcad3dd0a0d39727506717506883c26@dizum.com>

">>let's not forget that mine also had the correct applied mathematics
>> equations unlike fakey the supposed know-it-all:
>>  phase A: 120*sin(2*pi*60*x)
>> phase B: 120*sin(2*pi*60*x+pi)
>>  voltage difference between phase A and phase B at any point x in time:
>> 120*sin(2*pi*60*x) - 120*sin(2*pi*60*x+pi) = 240*sin(2*pi*60*x)

Wrong, as has already been proven. What does it say below, you fecking  
*moron*?

"The _sum_ E(θ) ≡ E(a) + E(b) can be written thusly:""

it says that you don't even know how to correctly apply mathematics to  
real-world AC electricity, snickerTurds.

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-10/single-phase-power-systems/
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/02170.png
"To mathematically calculate voltage between “hot” wires, we must subtract  
voltages, because their polarity marks show them to be opposed to each  
other:"
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/12112.png

http://www.samlexamerica.com/support/documents/WhitePaper-120240VACSingleSplitPhaseandMultiWireBranchCircuits.pdf

on page 2:

** NOTE: The phase of Hot Leg 2 (Phase B) is in the
  opposite direction - i.e., 180° apart from the phase
  of Hot Leg L1 (Phase A)

*COUGH*
SPNAK!!

-

i know a guy on the internet who will draw a triangular sine wave in ASCII  
art if you ask nicely.
see: Message-ID: <4ba4a50aaaebc7fb8a348293c5cf9f13@dizum.com>

-

snickerTurds can't seem to refute the following:

- begin snickerSinewaveStew.cpp --
/*
HOW TO RUN: download arbitrary precision libraries from:

http://www.hvks.com/Numerical/arbitrary_precision.html

place those files in a directory and save this file as  
snickerSinewaveStew.cpp inside that same directory.

compiles with:

gcc -Wall -I. precisioncore.cpp snickerSinewaveStew.cpp -lstdc++

run with:

./a.out

enjoy the LULZ ;)

*/
#include <fprecision.h>
#include <iostream.h>

using namespace std;

int main(){

   //float_precision MIN=float_precision(0);
   //float_precision MAX=float_precision(0);

   float_precision STEP=float_precision(.0001);
   float_precision t=float_precision(0);    // time variable
   float_precision sum=float_precision(0);  // sum of SnickerTurd's  
ridiculous sinewave mess
   float_precision snickerPrediction=float_precision(2550.25);  //  
snickerTurd's erroneous k0oK-k'lame Sum
   float_precision PI;
   PI =_float_table(_PI,25);

   // this while loop will run forever, but snickers doesn't understand why
   while(sum < snickerPrediction){

     // fakey's Sinewave Stew(TM) see: MID:  
<db672705e57e4932eba3632562e0a941@dizum.com>
     sum = (float_precision(150) * float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(120)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(20.25) * float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(33)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(1400)* float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(150)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +(float_precision(20)*  
float_precision(sin(float_precision(5013)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(600)*float_precision(sin(float_precision(13)*float_precision(2)*PI*t)))  
+  
(float_precision(360)*float_precision(sin(float_precision(1209)*float_precision(2)*PI*t)));

     // perhaps show a few values larger than +2300 to educate teh  
snickerTurds
     if(sum>float_precision(2300)){
       cout << "t=" << t << " sum=" << sum << std::endl;
     }
     t = t+STEP;
   }
/*

Message-ID: <c8523e6d9c31e3282bbe581fa525a2a8@dizum.com>
"Oh, yeah... it's 2550.25 volts... so why does your graph not even
reach 2500 volts, given that eventually all the sinewaves will
constructively interfere (ie: *add* to each other) to *sum* to 2550.25
volts?"

Fakey, it doesn't reach 2500 volts because the summation of your sinewaves  
never reaches that.  They never reach their max values at the same time.   
That's how stupid you are.

Message-ID: <731d08dcc702b9a8a13077ffc201e91f@dizum.com>
"I most certainly *did* prove otherwise. It can't even arrive at the
correct sinewave summation voltage of 2550.25 volts"

Fakey, you only *proved* that you are too inept to graph the equations and  
notice a few things about the interactions of their frequencies when  
summed.

the next line of code is never executed, but snickers DEFINITELY can't  
figure out why it isn't and instead has a bunch of lame excuses while  
still having not produced a value for t where the sum=2550.25, as he has  
k0okily proklamed in many usenet messages.

*/
   cout << "snickerTurds was right! the sum is " << sum << " at time t=" <<  
t <<endl;
}
- end snickerSinewaveStew.cpp --

-

Fakey irrationally demands a theme song to foam to:
"all I really want your pathetic pwned ass to do is write me a classic  
rock song as tribute to your Usenet Lord and Master..."  
<f4f9193fa7d28b760a9de681e61427e7@dizum.com>

-

Somewhere Abouts Round Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:25:03 -0500, Friendly  
Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

<snicker>

Fag. LOL
Idiot. LOL
Moron. LOL
Tranny. LOL
Libtard. LOL
Crackhead. LOL
GableTard. LOL
DildoRider. LOL
Bad Musician. LOL
Stick Figure. LOL
Terrible Liar. LOL
Sinewave Spammer. LOL
Outerfilthing Stalker. LOL
Talentless FrothMonkey. LOL
Math Challenged Halfwit. LOL
Klimate Katastrophe Kook. LOL
Defeated Tearful Spankard. LOL
Waster Of Time To Save $10. LOL
Worst Maker Of Sinewaves In The History Of Usenet. LOL

on top of old snick-ers, all covered with Fag. LOL
is where my usenet lord and mas-ter
can go straight to hell*

*hell doesn't exist.  hope everybody is having a productive evening.

-

http://i.imgur.com/2tH6zVB.jpg

http://cafepress.com/kooktown

http://i.imgur.com/pnWqhSG.jpg

-

If my poasts are offensive to you, you can always block all From: headers  
containing "root@127.0.0.1", unless you are an idiot who would like to  
yammer about "morphing" and maybe try to lodge some frivolous complaints  
to my news provider, then please be sure to ignore this helpful  
information and have fun making an ass of yourself in public.  :)

if that route of silencing those horrid opinions of mine that you  
downloaded to your computer under duress doesn't work you can always try:  
http://i.imgur.com/jlsN9JX.png?2

-

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
The Gish Gallop is often used as an indirect argument from authority — as  
it appears to paint the galloper as an expert in a broad range of subjects  
or with an extensive knowledge of an individual one. Simultaneously it  
presents opponents (in spoken debates) or refuters (in written,  
Internet-based ones) as incompetent bumblers who didn't do their homework  
before the debate. Such emphasis on style over substance is the reason  
many scientists disdain public debates as a forum for disseminating  
opinions. - Page #1 from the Gospel of SnickerTurd

-

Coming soon!  To a newsgroup near you!:

$ perl fakeyBot.pl
FakeyBot>       I'm FakeyBot. What's your name so I can Google-stalk you,  
look you up on Radaris, and hurl invective and probably-illegal harrassing  
bile from behind an anonymous dizum account?  <snicker>
You>    Robert Michael Wolfe
FakeyBot>       Oh look, you're back again to polish my size 16 steel-toed  
boot with your colon and listen to me talk about bestiality and cocks,  
Robert. <snicker>
Robert> you talk about cocks a lot.
FakeyBot>       Oh, I talk about sex a lot?
Robert> gay sex, mostly...
FakeyBot>       Fag!

(just as useful as the original!)

-

snickers the wonderturd describes how he alerted lots of his kiddie pr0n  
friends to the ensuing FBI sting in message  
<b5e7da79a455d0c9227b1b50e25e7ea1@dizum.com>:
"That's easy enough to do... how do you think my crew uncovered the
largest CP ring using Tor and I2P, which we promptly turned over to
the FBI? I discovered a way to uncover the IP addresses the I2P users were  
using, and a way of tracking Eepsites back to their IP addresses, then we  
figured out that we could DDOS a Tor IP address and modify Tor headers  
while checking whether a Tor hidden service was still up, then using  
process of elimination to pinpoint the IP address hosting that hidden  
service. It's not rocket science.

_The I2P community got all up in arms when I discussed on their forum how  
I was doing it, and that it'd be a good way of cleaning up I2P so it can  
get on with being a platform to research anonymous communication... my  
distinct impression was that the "anonymity
research platform" story was just a cover story to allow pervs to
trade CP._  (NOTE: admits to participating in what he "suspected" was a  
kiddie pr0n network.)

That Silk Road 2.0 was taken offline in the ensuing FBI Operation
Onymous was just icing on the cake."

-

Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007

 

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#560432 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I

FromBite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future>
Date2016-03-09 03:33 +0800
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<t6audb19qbefhhttlvml2659kahm6mop4t@4ax.com>
In reply to#560403
"\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave.,
Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907
Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1>
wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 13:34:08 -0500, Bite My Shiny Metal Ass  
> <bender@the.future> wrote:
> 
> > Fakey wrote:
> >
> >> Why are you so stupid, Jim? People far smarter than you have figured
> >> all this out long before you conceived of your kooky discredited
> >> theory, Jim.
> >
> > Do you really think that heaping abuse on your fellow kook
> > will persuade him to give you $100,000?
> >
> > Why are you so stupid, Fakey?
> 
> i'm sure if anybody knows it would be him.  he can explain it all in  
> another frothy bleatfest.

That's right.  Fakey's stupidity is all your fault!

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#560687 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-09 07:05 +0100
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<b533b5b0be55a1092cc60a5f5c1c5973@dizum.com>
In reply to#560399
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
<news:hh6udbh2774fu7dh6vt65tvi4dier3qaet@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
first into the wood chipper again:

> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>> Why are you so stupid, Jim? People far smarter than you have figured 
>> all this out long before you conceived of your kooky discredited 
>> theory, Jim.

> Do you really think that heaping abuse on your fellow kook

You mean *your* fellow kook. You are, after all, the reality-denying
kooktard whom I drop-kicked across Usenet repeatedly. LOL

> will persuade him to give you $100,000?

Of course it will... he'll either pay up as promised for my having not
only met the conditions of his kooky challenge, but also having
utterly decimated the underlying precepts of his kooky theory, or I'll
take payment in the form of his sanity.

<snicker>

> Why are you so stupid, Fakey?

Says the documented moron. LOL

-- 

Shiny Tinfoil Brain (aka Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) didn't know:
=====================================
The Euler equation is a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
Formulas, thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which
should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* to create
*sinusoids*);

That cross correlation is used with Fourier transforms;

That superposition is the same as wave interference;

That wave interference works the same for standing or traveling waves;

That RMS and peak-to-peak voltage are two different things;

That RMS isn't a DC voltage;

That 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service gives 208.207
volts RMS L-L;

That 4444525800 != 4400000000 != 1;

The difference between frequency and period of a sinewave;

That there's no difference between 'i' and 'j' in electrical
engineering, physics and control systems engineering;

What a positive or negative vector is;

That the vector sum of 3-phase AC constitutes a closed loop per
Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, thus that the three phases sum to zero;

That "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic";

That his claim: "Water is tetrahedral. It actually has 4 poles, 2
positive and 2 negative." is nonsense from a blathering moron.

That water does not have negative poles. The oxygen has an
electronegativity of 8+, the hydrogens 1+.

And the moron continues to demonstrate his inability to read a graph.
=====================================

SPNAK!

<snicker>

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#560725 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I

FromSkeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-03-09 05:39 -0700
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<3c60ebpid49fpnrg404l8vn9npi8bblle7@4ax.com>
In reply to#560687
On Wed,  9 Mar 2016 07:05:01 +0100 (CET), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

>Of course it will... he'll either pay up as promised for my having not
>only met the conditions of his kooky challenge, but also having
>utterly decimated the underlying precepts of his kooky theory, or I'll
>take payment in the form of his sanity.



Says the

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#560745 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I

FromBite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future>
Date2016-03-09 22:44 +0800
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<9md0eblj7her1dq5ha5k202j0ja70v132m@4ax.com>
In reply to#560725
Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Wed,  9 Mar 2016 07:05:01 +0100 (CET), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
> Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
> 
> >Of course it will... he'll either pay up as promised for my having not
> >only met the conditions of his kooky challenge, but also having
> >utterly decimated the underlying precepts of his kooky theory, or I'll
> >take payment in the form of his sanity.
> 
> 
> 
> Says the

guru of

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#560802 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I

FromMustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge>
Date2016-03-09 08:51 -0800
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<MPG.3149f4534271df1798cac3@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#560745
In article <9md0eblj7her1dq5ha5k202j0ja70v132m@4ax.com>, 
bender@the.future says...


> 
> Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed,  9 Mar 2016 07:05:01 +0100 (CET), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
> > Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
> > 
> > >Of course it will... he'll either pay up as promised for my having not
> > >only met the conditions of his kooky challenge, but also having
> > >utterly decimated the underlying precepts of his kooky theory, or I'll
> > >take payment in the form of his sanity.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Says the
> 
> guru of

cafe brawlers

-- 
Mustaffa Sheboygan

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#560818 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2016-03-09 17:21 +0000
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<1mjutgr.136s4quhaaervN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#560802
Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:

> In article <9md0eblj7her1dq5ha5k202j0ja70v132m@4ax.com>, 
> bender@the.future says...
> 
> > Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed,  9 Mar 2016 07:05:01 +0100 (CET), Farty Neighborhood
> > > Vote Wanker Ersatzus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> carefully printed:
> > > 
> > > >Of course it will... he'll either pay up as promised for my having not
> > > >only met the conditions of his kooky challenge, but also having
> > > >utterly decimated the underlying precepts of his kooky theory, or I'll
> > > >take payment in the form of his sanity.
> > > 
> > > Says the
> > 
> > guru of
> 
> cafe brawlers

In Wankertown, Ontario

-- 
^Ï^.       Sn!pe       <snipeco.1@gmail.com>

My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts.
My pet rock Gordon wants out.

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#560838 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I

FromBite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future>
Date2016-03-10 02:03 +0800
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<uap0eb594kkghvt18teq218au1n9vq1qc5@4ax.com>
In reply to#560818
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

> Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
> 
> > In article <9md0eblj7her1dq5ha5k202j0ja70v132m@4ax.com>, 
> > bender@the.future says...
> > 
> > > Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed,  9 Mar 2016 07:05:01 +0100 (CET), Farty Neighborhood
> > > > Vote Wanker Ersatzus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> carefully printed:
> > > > 
> > > > >Of course it will... he'll either pay up as promised for my having not
> > > > >only met the conditions of his kooky challenge, but also having
> > > > >utterly decimated the underlying precepts of his kooky theory, or I'll
> > > > >take payment in the form of his sanity.
> > > > 
> > > > Says the
> > > 
> > > guru of
> > 
> > cafe brawlers
> 
> In Wankertown, Ontario

where, but for the

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#560843 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I

FromMustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge>
Date2016-03-09 10:13 -0800
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<MPG.314a07a74a463f4998cac9@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#560838
In article <uap0eb594kkghvt18teq218au1n9vq1qc5@4ax.com>, 
bender@the.future says...


> 
> snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> 
> > Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <9md0eblj7her1dq5ha5k202j0ja70v132m@4ax.com>, 
> > > bender@the.future says...
> > > 
> > > > Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed,  9 Mar 2016 07:05:01 +0100 (CET), Farty Neighborhood
> > > > > Vote Wanker Ersatzus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> carefully printed:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >Of course it will... he'll either pay up as promised for my having not
> > > > > >only met the conditions of his kooky challenge, but also having
> > > > > >utterly decimated the underlying precepts of his kooky theory, or I'll
> > > > > >take payment in the form of his sanity.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Says the
> > > > 
> > > > guru of
> > > 
> > > cafe brawlers
> > 
> > In Wankertown, Ontario
> 
> where, but for the

grace of allah the pitiful

-- 
Mustaffa Sheboygan

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#560844 — Re: Clouds are made of water - Part I

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2016-03-09 18:17 +0000
SubjectRe: Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<1mjuw4c.1ewg7ex1woha7bN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#560843
Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:

> In article <uap0eb594kkghvt18teq218au1n9vq1qc5@4ax.com>, 
> bender@the.future says...
> 
> 
> > 
> > snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> > 
> > > Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In article <9md0eblj7her1dq5ha5k202j0ja70v132m@4ax.com>, 
> > > > bender@the.future says...
> > > > 
> > > > > Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed,  9 Mar 2016 07:05:01 +0100 (CET), Farty Neighborhood
> > > > > > Vote Wanker Ersatzus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> carefully printed:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >Of course it will... he'll either pay up as promised for my
> > > > > > >having not only met the conditions of his kooky challenge, but
> > > > > > >also having utterly decimated the underlying precepts of his
> > > > > > >kooky theory, or I'll take payment in the form of his sanity.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Says the
> > > > > 
> > > > > guru of
> > > > 
> > > > cafe brawlers
> > > 
> > > In Wankertown, Ontario
> > 
> > where, but for the
> 
> grace of allah the pitiful

Shr00mheads cavort in the forest

-- 
^Ï^.       Sn!pe       <snipeco.1@gmail.com>

My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts.
My pet rock Gordon wants out.

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#560918 — Re: Mustaffa was Clouds are made of water - Part I

FrombuZZard <buzz@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-03-09 15:50 -0500
SubjectRe: Mustaffa was Clouds are made of water - Part I
Message-ID<56e08c81$0$29552$c3e8da3$c8b7d2e6@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#560843
On 3/9/2016 1:13 PM, Mustaffa Sheboygan wrote:
<...>
> grace of allah the pitiful
>
Where in hell did you come up with this nym, Mustaffa?  8^)
-- 
buZZard, AUK DoW #7

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