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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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First post2017-04-22 22:38 +0100
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  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-22 22:38 +0100
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 15:55 -0700
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-22 22:58 +0000
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 16:20 -0700
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 00:01 +0000
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 17:20 -0700
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 00:27 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 17:44 -0700
                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 00:48 +0000
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 17:54 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 00:55 +0000
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 18:13 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 01:20 +0000
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 14:35 +0100
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 14:32 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:07 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 08:15 -0700
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:17 +0000
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 10:07 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 12:05 -0700
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-30 18:06 +0100
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 11:11 -0700
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 18:36 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 11:48 -0700
                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 18:54 +0000
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:09 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:14 +0000
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:25 -0700
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 19:39 -0400
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:50 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:56 -0700
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:00 +0000
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:09 -0700
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:23 -0400
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:24 -0400
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:26 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-10 21:42 +0100
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-10 23:11 +0000
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-11 15:23 +0100
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-06 14:32 +0100
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:26 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-07 12:38 -0400
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 17:16 +0000
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Beezel Bub <nunya@bizz.invalid> - 2017-05-07 11:24 -0600
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 17:57 +0000
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-07 14:32 -0400
                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 18:36 +0000
                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 12:53 -0700
                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 21:51 +0000
                                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 15:02 -0700
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:59 -0700
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-07 14:18 -0400
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 18:24 +0000
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-07 15:18 -0400
                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 19:35 +0000
                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 13:06 -0700
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 18:50 +0000
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 12:12 -0700
                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-07 19:48 +0000
                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 12:55 -0700
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:56 -0700
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:57 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-08 00:09 +0100
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 16:24 -0700
                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-06 14:34 +0100
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 13:48 +0000
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-06 15:16 +0100
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:28 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:55 -0700
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-05-06 10:40 -0500
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:27 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 14:56 -0400
                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:04 +0000
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:14 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:16 +0000
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:24 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:25 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 13:08 -0700
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 20:27 +0000
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 20:34 +0000
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 13:56 -0700
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 21:34 +0000
                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:01 -0700
                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:06 +0000
                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:13 -0700
                                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:20 +0000
                                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:23 +0000
                                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:31 -0700
                                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:31 -0700
                                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:34 +0000
                                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:00 -0700
                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:03 +0000
                                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:18 -0700
                                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:29 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-06 15:17 +0100
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:38 -0700
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 15:18 -0400
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:18 +0000
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:23 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:21 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 13:07 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:24 -0700
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 17:17 -0400
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 14:19 -0700
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 17:22 -0400
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 14:28 -0700
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 21:22 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 18:30 -0400
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:34 -0700
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 18:49 -0400
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:01 -0700
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:40 +0000
                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:16 -0700
                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:15 +0000
                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:28 -0700
                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:43 +0000
                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:48 -0700
                                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:51 +0000
                                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:55 -0700
                                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:55 +0000
                                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:08 -0700
                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:17 +0000
                                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:33 -0700
                                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:46 +0000
                                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:52 -0700
                                                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 01:02 +0000
                                                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 18:23 -0700
                                                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 01:47 +0000
                                                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:18 -0700
                                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 08:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:53 -0700
                                                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 17:30 +0000
                                                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 10:44 -0700
                                                                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 17:54 +0000
                                                                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 12:05 -0700
                                                                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 19:37 +0000
                                                                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-05-06 22:09 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Charlie <pipedroner3@kismet45.org> - 2017-05-06 16:19 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 13:55 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 13:22 -0700
                                                                                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 13:20 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 20:28 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 13:40 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 22:23 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 15:48 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-21 22:02 +0100
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-21 22:02 +0100
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-21 14:17 -0700
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 18:33 -0400
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:36 -0700
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 18:43 -0400
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:01 -0700
                      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:45 +0000
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 18:54 -0400
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:53 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-30 19:16 -0400
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:17 -0700
                        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:13 -0400
                          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:23 +0000
                            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-30 20:42 -0400
                              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:57 +0000
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 00:48 +0100
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 17:16 -0700
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-23 00:18 +0000
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-22 17:22 -0700
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 22:07 +0100
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 14:17 -0700
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 01:02 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 18:55 -0700
                  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 15:17 +0100
                    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:03 -0700

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#632143

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-06 13:22 -0700
Message-ID<D5337EAE.A3D0E%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#632140
On 5/6/17, 1:09 PM, in article oelaba$n9c$1@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

...
>>> The fact you want a picture of the center of gravity of a set of objects
>>> shows you have NO clue what we are even talking about. Seriously, wow.
>> 
>> I knew you didn't have one, dummy.
>> So, it's still the Sun.
> 
> Stop replying to the lying imbecile
> 
> Snit Michael Glasser simply wants to set up a new "Snit circus", and you
> have fallen for it
> 
> He does not care that the barycenter of the whole solar system lies within
> the sun, 

It sometimes does. It sometimes does not. Your claim is simply not correct.

> and so all planets orbit the sun no matter how much he tries to
> twist the reality

The sun and the planets orbit the barycenter. To say the planets orbit the
sun is good enough for first or second grade but past that you should gain a
better understanding.

> Even if Jupiter would circle the sun at Mercuries orbit, the barycenter of
> those two most massive objects of the solar system still lies *way* inside
> the sun

When Jupiter and Saturn are on the same side of the sun the barycenter is
outside of the sun. This happens in a roughly 11 year cycle and may be tied
to the sunspot cycle of the sun.

> Stop replying to that dishonest twit. He is wrong, and will stay wrong as
> long as there are new suns born

Ah, you just want to troll me. Ok, added your post to the list of trolling
posts where people are breaking the pact to not share their fantasies about
me.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#632142

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-06 13:20 -0700
Message-ID<D5337E09.A3D0C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#632137
On 5/6/17, 12:37 PM, in article oel8l7$dqk$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
<spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:

... 
>>>> I understand the barycenter.
>>> 
>>> Got a picture of it?
>>> An actual picture, not a diagram.
>>> If you do, then I'll agree the Earth orbits that :)
>> 
>> The fact you want a picture of the center of gravity of a set of objects
>> shows you have NO clue what we are even talking about. Seriously, wow.
> 
> I knew you didn't have one, dummy.
> So, it's still the Sun.

Ah, name calling as you ask for an actual picture (not a diagram) of the
center of gravity (the barycenter). That is like asking for an actual
picture (not a diagram) of an orbit.

It is a nonsense request that just shows ignorance. The closest you can come
is to show a time lapse or an image that depicts such. I *did* show you a
diagram of that and it did not help you.

At that point it comes to you taking responsibility for understanding the
concept. And it is not that hard of one... already showed you this NASA
article which seems directed at grade school kids (and goes over your head):

    <https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/barycenter>

Then there is this:

    <https://youtu.be/1iSR3Yw6FXo>

That goes into more detail. Turns out the next time the center of the sun
will be almost exactly at the center of the solar system will be in 2169. In
any case, the way Saturn and Jupiter line up may be tied to the 11 year
cycle of sun spots, something I had not considered or heard about... so
thank you for the discussion.

And with this I am not sure what else to add. I can repost the same links
and explanations but I suspect you will remain ignorant and unable to
understand. 

...


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#632144

FromSprang <spring@sprung.invalid>
Date2017-05-06 20:28 +0000
Message-ID<oelbl0$op0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#632142
On Sat, 06 May 2017 13:20:09 -0700, Snit, after 15 edits, wrote this:
> On 5/6/17, 12:37 PM, in article oel8l7$dqk$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
><spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:
>
> ... 
>>>>> I understand the barycenter.
>>>> 
>>>> Got a picture of it?
>>>> An actual picture, not a diagram.
>>>> If you do, then I'll agree the Earth orbits that :)
>>> 
>>> The fact you want a picture of the center of gravity of a set of objects
>>> shows you have NO clue what we are even talking about. Seriously, wow.
>> 
>> I knew you didn't have one, dummy.
>> So, it's still the Sun.
>
> Ah, name calling as you ask for an actual picture (not a diagram) of the
> center of gravity (the barycenter). That is like asking for an actual
> picture (not a diagram) of an orbit.

Yep.

>
> It is a nonsense request that just shows ignorance. The closest you can come
> is to show a time lapse or an image that depicts such. I *did* show you a
> diagram of that and it did not help you.
>

It did not persuade me.
Planets orbit the Sun :)

> At that point it comes to you taking responsibility for understanding the
> concept. And it is not that hard of one... already showed you this NASA
> article which seems directed at grade school kids (and goes over your head):
>
>     <https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/barycenter>
>

Yeah, I've seen it.

> Then there is this:
>
>     <https://youtu.be/1iSR3Yw6FXo>
>
> That goes into more detail. Turns out the next time the center of the sun
> will be almost exactly at the center of the solar system will be in 2169. In
> any case, the way Saturn and Jupiter line up may be tied to the 11 year
> cycle of sun spots, something I had not considered or heard about... so
> thank you for the discussion.
>

Nothing wrong with discussing stuff.

> And with this I am not sure what else to add. I can repost the same links
> and explanations but I suspect you will remain ignorant and unable to
> understand. 

What? ;)

Yeah, it's run it's course.
Though endless debate can be fun.

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#632146

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-06 13:40 -0700
Message-ID<D53382C7.A3D20%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#632144
On 5/6/17, 1:28 PM, in article oelbl0$op0$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
<spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 06 May 2017 13:20:09 -0700, Snit, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>> On 5/6/17, 12:37 PM, in article oel8l7$dqk$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
>> <spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> ... 
>>>>>> I understand the barycenter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Got a picture of it?
>>>>> An actual picture, not a diagram.
>>>>> If you do, then I'll agree the Earth orbits that :)
>>>> 
>>>> The fact you want a picture of the center of gravity of a set of objects
>>>> shows you have NO clue what we are even talking about. Seriously, wow.
>>> 
>>> I knew you didn't have one, dummy.
>>> So, it's still the Sun.
>> 
>> Ah, name calling as you ask for an actual picture (not a diagram) of the
>> center of gravity (the barycenter). That is like asking for an actual
>> picture (not a diagram) of an orbit.
> 
> Yep.

In other words your request shows ignorance of the topic.

>> It is a nonsense request that just shows ignorance. The closest you can come
>> is to show a time lapse or an image that depicts such. I *did* show you a
>> diagram of that and it did not help you.
> 
> It did not persuade me.
> Planets orbit the Sun :)

From a first or second grade level of understanding, sure. But we have
covered this.

When Saturn and Jupiter are on the same side of the sun it is not even in
the area of the sun.

>> At that point it comes to you taking responsibility for understanding the
>> concept. And it is not that hard of one... already showed you this NASA
>> article which seems directed at grade school kids (and goes over your head):
>> 
>>     <https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/barycenter>
> 
> Yeah, I've seen it.

But shown no understanding. Sure.

>> Then there is this:
>> 
>>     <https://youtu.be/1iSR3Yw6FXo>
>> 
>> That goes into more detail. Turns out the next time the center of the sun
>> will be almost exactly at the center of the solar system will be in 2169. In
>> any case, the way Saturn and Jupiter line up may be tied to the 11 year
>> cycle of sun spots, something I had not considered or heard about... so
>> thank you for the discussion.
> 
> Nothing wrong with discussing stuff.

Agreed.  

>> And with this I am not sure what else to add. I can repost the same links
>> and explanations but I suspect you will remain ignorant and unable to
>> understand. 
> 
> What? ;)

Do you need an explanation? :)
 
> Yeah, it's run it's course.

Can you post an actual picture (not a diagram) of this course?

> Though endless debate can be fun.

No they can't. :)

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#632168

FromSprang <spring@sprung.invalid>
Date2017-05-06 22:23 +0000
Message-ID<oelida$g7m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#632146
On Sat, 06 May 2017 13:40:23 -0700, Snit, after 15 edits, wrote this:
> On 5/6/17, 1:28 PM, in article oelbl0$op0$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
><spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 06 May 2017 13:20:09 -0700, Snit, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>> On 5/6/17, 12:37 PM, in article oel8l7$dqk$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
>>> <spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ... 
>>>>>>> I understand the barycenter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Got a picture of it?
>>>>>> An actual picture, not a diagram.
>>>>>> If you do, then I'll agree the Earth orbits that :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> The fact you want a picture of the center of gravity of a set of objects
>>>>> shows you have NO clue what we are even talking about. Seriously, wow.
>>>> 
>>>> I knew you didn't have one, dummy.
>>>> So, it's still the Sun.
>>> 
>>> Ah, name calling as you ask for an actual picture (not a diagram) of the
>>> center of gravity (the barycenter). That is like asking for an actual
>>> picture (not a diagram) of an orbit.
>> 
>> Yep.
>
> In other words your request shows ignorance of the topic.

So, with this new found expertise, you'll be moving out of the chicken coupe?
 :)

>
>>> It is a nonsense request that just shows ignorance. The closest you can come
>>> is to show a time lapse or an image that depicts such. I *did* show you a
>>> diagram of that and it did not help you.
>> 
>> It did not persuade me.
>> Planets orbit the Sun :)
>
> From a first or second grade level of understanding, sure. But we have
> covered this.
>

I doubt second graders know what an orbit is.

> When Saturn and Jupiter are on the same side of the sun it is not even in
> the area of the sun.
>

Wrong.

>>> At that point it comes to you taking responsibility for understanding the
>>> concept. And it is not that hard of one... already showed you this NASA
>>> article which seems directed at grade school kids (and goes over your head):
>>> 
>>>     <https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/barycenter>
>> 
>> Yeah, I've seen it.
>
> But shown no understanding. Sure.
>

Things have been a mess since Pluto left.

>>> Then there is this:
>>> 
>>>     <https://youtu.be/1iSR3Yw6FXo>
>>> 
>>> That goes into more detail. Turns out the next time the center of the sun
>>> will be almost exactly at the center of the solar system will be in 2169. In
>>> any case, the way Saturn and Jupiter line up may be tied to the 11 year
>>> cycle of sun spots, something I had not considered or heard about... so
>>> thank you for the discussion.
>> 
>> Nothing wrong with discussing stuff.
>
> Agreed.  
>

Yup.

>>> And with this I am not sure what else to add. I can repost the same links
>>> and explanations but I suspect you will remain ignorant and unable to
>>> understand. 
>> 
>> What? ;)
>
> Do you need an explanation? :)
>

No, I know what what means.
  
>> Yeah, it's run it's course.
>
> Can you post an actual picture (not a diagram) of this course?
>

https://giphy.com/gifs/arguing-A6eeii8JprHKo

>> Though endless debate can be fun.
>
> No they can't. :)
>

Know they can.

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#632169

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-06 15:48 -0700
Message-ID<D533A0D6.A3D4F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#632168
On 5/6/17, 3:23 PM, in article oelida$g7m$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
<spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 06 May 2017 13:40:23 -0700, Snit, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>> On 5/6/17, 1:28 PM, in article oelbl0$op0$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
>> <spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 06 May 2017 13:20:09 -0700, Snit, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>>> On 5/6/17, 12:37 PM, in article oel8l7$dqk$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
>>>> <spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ... 
>>>>>>>> I understand the barycenter.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Got a picture of it?
>>>>>>> An actual picture, not a diagram.
>>>>>>> If you do, then I'll agree the Earth orbits that :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The fact you want a picture of the center of gravity of a set of objects
>>>>>> shows you have NO clue what we are even talking about. Seriously, wow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I knew you didn't have one, dummy.
>>>>> So, it's still the Sun.
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, name calling as you ask for an actual picture (not a diagram) of the
>>>> center of gravity (the barycenter). That is like asking for an actual
>>>> picture (not a diagram) of an orbit.
>>> 
>>> Yep.
>> 
>> In other words your request shows ignorance of the topic.
> 
> So, with this new found expertise, you'll be moving out of the chicken coupe?
>  :)

Don't get the reference but I don't keep up with modern pop references. Did
a quick search now and did not find it. I assume you likely meant coop and
not coupe, but maybe not?

>>>> It is a nonsense request that just shows ignorance. The closest you can
>>>> come is to show a time lapse or an image that depicts such. I *did* show
>>>> you a diagram of that and it did not help you.
>>> 
>>> It did not persuade me.
>>> Planets orbit the Sun :)
>> 
>> From a first or second grade level of understanding, sure. But we have
>> covered this.
> 
> I doubt second graders know what an orbit is.

They should. I know my kids did at that age.

>> When Saturn and Jupiter are on the same side of the sun it is not even in
>> the area of the sun.
> 
> Wrong.

<https://youtu.be/1iSR3Yw6FXo?t=1m55s>

>>>> At that point it comes to you taking responsibility for understanding the
>>>> concept. And it is not that hard of one... already showed you this NASA
>>>> article which seems directed at grade school kids (and goes over your
>>>> head):
>>>> 
>>>>     <https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/barycenter>
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I've seen it.
>> 
>> But shown no understanding. Sure.
> 
> Things have been a mess since Pluto left.

It never left.

... 
>>> Yeah, it's run it's course.
>> 
>> Can you post an actual picture (not a diagram) of this course?
> 
> https://giphy.com/gifs/arguing-A6eeii8JprHKo

:)


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#634020

From"James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Date2017-05-21 22:02 +0100
Message-ID<op.y0lwp3vfjs98qf@red.lan>
In reply to#631399
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:18:38 +0100, Jonathan N. Little <lws4art@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sprang wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>> Sprang wrote:
>>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>>> the water level is lower.
>>>> Tell others.
>>>
>>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>>
>>
>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>> Wear galoshes.
>> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap galoshes.
>>
>
> Except if you employ facts, it would not be 4 inches. The problem is
> there have been times in Earth history were there was no ice and you
> could have snorkeled in Kansas.

I don't care about people stupid enough to live that low down.

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#634021

From"James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Date2017-05-21 22:02 +0100
Message-ID<op.y0lwqy0xjs98qf@red.lan>
In reply to#631399
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:18:38 +0100, Jonathan N. Little <lws4art@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sprang wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>> Sprang wrote:
>>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>>> the water level is lower.
>>>> Tell others.
>>>
>>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>>
>>
>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>> Wear galoshes.
>> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap galoshes.
>>
>
> Except if you employ facts, it would not be 4 inches. The problem is
> there have been times in Earth history were there was no ice and you
> could have snorkeled in Kansas.

What, you mean non-man-made climate change?  That's not allowed!  Everything is our fault!

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#634023

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-21 14:17 -0700
Message-ID<D5475214.A5262%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#634021
On 5/21/17, 2:02 PM, in article op.y0lwqy0xjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:18:38 +0100, Jonathan N. Little <lws4art@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Sprang wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits,
>>> wrote this:
>>>> Sprang wrote:
>>>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>>>> the water level is lower.
>>>>> Tell others.
>>>> 
>>>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>>>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>>>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>>>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>>>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>>>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>>>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>>> Wear galoshes.
>>> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap
>>> galoshes.
>>> 
>> 
>> Except if you employ facts, it would not be 4 inches. The problem is
>> there have been times in Earth history were there was no ice and you
>> could have snorkeled in Kansas.
> 
> What, you mean non-man-made climate change?  That's not allowed!

Straw man.

> Everything is our fault!

Straw man.

If you wish to argue against the science at least TRY to understand it
first.


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#631456

FromRon C <r.capik@verizon.net>
Date2017-04-30 18:33 -0400
Message-ID<DYadnXcbo4jb-5vEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#631395
On 4/30/2017 3:04 PM, Sprang wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>> Sprang wrote:
>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>> the water level is lower.
>>> Tell others.
>>
>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>
>
> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
> Wear galoshes.
> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap galoshes.
>

Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?

-- 
==
Later...
Ron C
-- 

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#631458

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-04-30 15:36 -0700
Message-ID<D52BB4F4.A29B3%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#631456
On 4/30/17, 3:33 PM, in article
DYadnXcbo4jb-5vEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@giganews.com, "Ron C" <r.capik@verizon.net>
wrote:

> On 4/30/2017 3:04 PM, Sprang wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits, wrote
>> this:
>>> Sprang wrote:
>>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>>> the water level is lower.
>>>> Tell others.
>>> 
>>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>> 
>> 
>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>> Wear galoshes.
>> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap
>> galoshes.
>> 
> 
> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?

A discussion on this can lead to a heated argument.

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#631461

FromRon C <r.capik@verizon.net>
Date2017-04-30 18:43 -0400
Message-ID<DYadnXYbo4jl9ZvEnZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#631458
On 4/30/2017 6:36 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 4/30/17, 3:33 PM, in article
> DYadnXcbo4jb-5vEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@giganews.com, "Ron C" <r.capik@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/30/2017 3:04 PM, Sprang wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits, wrote
>>> this:
>>>> Sprang wrote:
>>>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>>>> the water level is lower.
>>>>> Tell others.
>>>>
>>>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>>>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>>>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>>>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>>>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>>>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>>>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>>> Wear galoshes.
>>> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap
>>> galoshes.
>>>
>>
>> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
>> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?
>
> A discussion on this can lead to a heated argument.
>
Then maybe it will cook the red herring. :-)
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#631469

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-04-30 16:01 -0700
Message-ID<D52BBABD.A29D0%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#631461
On 4/30/17, 3:43 PM, in article
DYadnXYbo4jl9ZvEnZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@giganews.com, "Ron C" <r.capik@verizon.net>
wrote:

> On 4/30/2017 6:36 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 4/30/17, 3:33 PM, in article
>> DYadnXcbo4jb-5vEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@giganews.com, "Ron C" <r.capik@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 4/30/2017 3:04 PM, Sprang wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits,
>>>> wrote
>>>> this:
>>>>> Sprang wrote:
>>>>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>>>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>>>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>>>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>>>>> the water level is lower.
>>>>>> Tell others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>>>>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>>>>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>>>>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>>>>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>>>>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>>>>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>>>> Wear galoshes.
>>>> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap
>>>> galoshes.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
>>> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?
>> 
>> A discussion on this can lead to a heated argument.
>> 
> Then maybe it will cook the red herring. :-)

Seems a bit fishy to me.

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#631463

FromSprang <spring@sprung.invalid>
Date2017-04-30 22:45 +0000
Message-ID<oe5pdj$g01$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#631456
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:33:39 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
> On 4/30/2017 3:04 PM, Sprang wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>> Sprang wrote:
>>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>>> the water level is lower.
>>>> Tell others.
>>>
>>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>>
>>
>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>> Wear galoshes.
>> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap galoshes.
>>
>
> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?
>

Thermal expansion.

> -- 
>==
> Later...
> Ron C


-- 
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#631466

FromRon C <r.capik@verizon.net>
Date2017-04-30 18:54 -0400
Message-ID<BfydnefYe5Wg9pvEnZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#631463
On 4/30/2017 6:45 PM, Sprang wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:33:39 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>> On 4/30/2017 3:04 PM, Sprang wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>>> Sprang wrote:
>>>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>>>> the water level is lower.
>>>>> Tell others.
>>>>
>>>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>>>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>>>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>>>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>>>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>>>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>>>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>>> Wear galoshes.
>>> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap galoshes.
>>>
>>
>> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
>> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?
>>
>
> Thermal expansion.
>

OK, follow that thought....

==
Later...
Ron C
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#631467

FromSprang <spring@sprung.invalid>
Date2017-04-30 22:53 +0000
Message-ID<oe5ptv$g01$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#631466
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:54:51 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
> On 4/30/2017 6:45 PM, Sprang wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:33:39 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>> On 4/30/2017 3:04 PM, Sprang wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>>>> Sprang wrote:
>>>>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>>>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>>>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>>>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>>>>> the water level is lower.
>>>>>> Tell others.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>>>>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>>>>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>>>>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>>>>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>>>>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>>>>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>>>> Wear galoshes.
>>>> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap galoshes.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
>>> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?
>>>
>>
>> Thermal expansion.
>>
>
> OK, follow that thought....

Exploding marshmellows. :)

>
>==
> Later...
> Ron C


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#631473

FromRon C <r.capik@verizon.net>
Date2017-04-30 19:16 -0400
Message-ID<BZ-dnUyMlMao7ZvEnZ2dnUU7-UPNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#631467
On 4/30/2017 6:53 PM, Sprang wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:54:51 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>> On 4/30/2017 6:45 PM, Sprang wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:33:39 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>>> On 4/30/2017 3:04 PM, Sprang wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>>>>> Sprang wrote:
>>>>>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>>>>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>>>>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>>>>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>>>>>> the water level is lower.
>>>>>>> Tell others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>>>>>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>>>>>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>>>>>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>>>>>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>>>>>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>>>>>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>>>>> Wear galoshes.
>>>>> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap galoshes.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
>>>> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thermal expansion.
>>>
>>
>> OK, follow that thought....
>
> Exploding marshmellows. :)
>

Good job. Carry on....
==
L...
RC
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#631475

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-04-30 16:17 -0700
Message-ID<D52BBE8C.A29F0%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#631467
On 4/30/17, 3:53 PM, in article oe5ptv$g01$4@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
<spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:54:51 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>> On 4/30/2017 6:45 PM, Sprang wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:33:39 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
>>>> On 4/30/2017 3:04 PM, Sprang wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:56:21 -0400, Jonathan N. Little, after 15 edits,
>>>>> wrote this:
>>>>>> Sprang wrote:
>>>>>>> Fill a glass with ice and water.
>>>>>>> Place outside in the sun on a warm day.
>>>>>>> Leave for 24 hours.
>>>>>>> Return to retrieve glass, notice even with the bugs floating in it,
>>>>>>> the water level is lower.
>>>>>>> Tell others.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hesitate to introduce facts into this stupid discussion, but yes water
>>>>>> is one of those a atypical molecules which expands when transition from
>>>>>> liquid to solid. You application here to explain that global warning
>>>>>> resulting Arctic and Antarctic ice to melt would not cause cause sea
>>>>>> level rise is fundamentally flawed. The reason is that the ice that will
>>>>>> melt has a significant portion resting on *land* and not in the water.
>>>>>> If the ice sheets melt the melt-water will *not* stay on the land.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If all the ice melts, sea levels will increase 4 inches.
>>>>> Wear galoshes.
>>>>> Of course, with a measly 0.8 degree increase over a century, get cheap
>>>>> galoshes.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
>>>> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thermal expansion.
>>> 
>> 
>> OK, follow that thought....
> 
> Exploding marshmellows. :)

That's enough... not a Peep out of you!

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superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#631498

FromWolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Date2017-04-30 20:13 -0400
Message-ID<Z4vNA.42939$3%2.33388@fx09.iad>
In reply to#631463
On 2017-04-30 18:45, Sprang wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:33:39 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
[...]
>> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
>> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?
>>
>
> Thermal expansion.

I'm sure you have the skills to figure out the effect of thermal 
expansion on ocean levels.

In case you don't have the formulas at your finger tips, here's how to 
calculate the cubic thermal expansion of the ocean:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/volumetric-temperature-expansion-d_315.html

You also need to know the volume of the ocean, and its area:
1.35 billion cubic km
351 million square km

You need to figure out:
a) how much the ocean would rise with zero increase in surface area; 
that's simple geometry.
b) how much of that rise would be absorbed by increased surface area via 
flooding of low-lying land; that's trickier, because you have to know 
the areas of land at, say, 1m intervals, so as to calculate the volume 
that the flooding ocean water would occupy, etc. I'm sure you can find 
the data.

-- 
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Wolf K
https://kirkwood40.blogspot.com
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#631502

FromSprang <spring@sprung.invalid>
Date2017-05-01 00:23 +0000
Message-ID<oe5v6h$nmg$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#631498
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:13:40 -0400, Wolf K, after 15 edits, wrote this:
> On 2017-04-30 18:45, Sprang wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:33:39 -0400, Ron C, after 15 edits, wrote this:
> [...]
>>> Actually the ice melt/sea level rise argument is a bit of a red herring.
>>> Here's a hint: how does a thermometer work?
>>>
>>
>> Thermal expansion.
>
> I'm sure you have the skills to figure out the effect of thermal 
> expansion on ocean levels.
>
> In case you don't have the formulas at your finger tips, here's how to 
> calculate the cubic thermal expansion of the ocean:
>
> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/volumetric-temperature-expansion-d_315.html
>
> You also need to know the volume of the ocean, and its area:
> 1.35 billion cubic km
> 351 million square km
>
> You need to figure out:
> a) how much the ocean would rise with zero increase in surface area; 
> that's simple geometry.
> b) how much of that rise would be absorbed by increased surface area via 
> flooding of low-lying land; that's trickier, because you have to know 
> the areas of land at, say, 1m intervals, so as to calculate the volume 
> that the flooding ocean water would occupy, etc. I'm sure you can find 
> the data.
>

By golly, it will increase by 4 inches.
Thanks. :)
Now, all the ice needs to melt.
How many thousand years do we have to prepar?
Got a formula for that?

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