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The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible?

Started byArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
First post2017-08-28 16:53 -0700
Last post2017-09-01 18:38 -0500
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  The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 16:53 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 00:54 -0700
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 05:33 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 06:18 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-29 09:46 -0500
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 15:42 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 20:14 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-29 16:33 +0000
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 12:48 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 14:18 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-29 21:28 +0000
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 17:19 -0700
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 17:57 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 18:26 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 18:41 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 20:40 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 15:53 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 16:38 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 18:23 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-29 20:55 -0500
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 19:06 -0700
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-29 21:16 -0500
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 03:42 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 06:38 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 17:21 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 19:20 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-29 22:46 -0400
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 20:00 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 21:13 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-30 01:21 -0700
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 03:03 -0700
                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-30 05:15 -0700
                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 05:31 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 10:24 -0700
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 17:44 -0700
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 17:46 -0700
                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 21:31 -0400
                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 18:35 -0700
                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 22:06 -0400
                                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 19:21 -0700
                                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 23:29 -0400
                                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 21:21 -0700
                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 23:05 -0700
                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-06 13:42 -0500
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 21:22 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 20:34 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 22:44 -0700
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 10:49 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 17:55 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-02 11:05 -0500
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 09:56 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 02:57 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 20:34 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 19:31 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Boris Mohar <borism_void_@sympatico.ca> - 2017-08-29 09:22 -0400
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 07:03 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:37 -0500
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 11:43 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-30 20:26 +1000
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 04:52 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-09-01 17:28 +1000
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 04:59 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 17:39 -0400
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 16:28 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 21:47 -0400
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 19:25 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 23:23 -0400
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 06:36 -0700
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-02 11:44 -0500
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-02 18:43 -0400
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 20:42 -0700
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 17:13 -0400
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-30 16:17 +0000
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 09:25 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 17:22 -0700
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 21:35 -0400
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 18:44 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 22:11 -0400
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 19:18 -0700
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 23:27 -0400
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 20:30 -0700
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 16:26 -0400
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 13:53 -0700
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-30 14:27 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 10:45 -0700
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-30 12:07 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 14:34 -0700
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-30 15:02 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:26 -0500
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 05:24 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 08:21 -0700
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 17:40 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-01 23:36 -0500
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 22:08 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-02 11:48 -0500
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-02 18:50 -0400
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-03 23:58 -0500
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-04 19:27 -0400
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 16:37 -0700
                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-06 11:24 -0500
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-02 18:19 -0400
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 22:06 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 22:17 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-02 12:13 -0500
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 03:30 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 07:18 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 16:57 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-04 00:33 +0000
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 19:00 -0700
                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 19:16 -0700
                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 19:35 -0700
                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 19:44 -0700
                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-04 06:36 +0000
                                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 05:13 -0700
                                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 13:23 +0000
                                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 08:52 -0700
                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 14:52 -0500
                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 14:57 -0700
                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 00:26 +0000
                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 16:12 -0700
                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 16:24 -0700
                                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 00:26 +0000
                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 00:26 +0000
                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 12:01 +0000
                                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 05:39 -0700
                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 08:16 -0500
                                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 05:44 -0700
                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 08:20 -0500
                                                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 07:09 -0700
                                                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 09:14 -0500
                                                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 07:36 -0700
                                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 11:39 -0700
                                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 13:14 -0700
                                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:38 -0500
                                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 16:10 -0500
                                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 17:17 -0700
                                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-06 02:50 +0000
                                                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 06:00 -0700
                                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:43 -0500
                                                                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 06:51 -0700
                                                                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 09:01 -0500
                                                                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 07:26 -0700
                                                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-06 16:24 +0000
                                                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 12:52 -0500
                                                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 11:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 13:12 -0500
                                                                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 11:50 -0700
                                                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 14:03 -0500
                                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-06 16:15 +0000
                                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 13:58 -0500
                                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:42 -0500
                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 15:39 -0700
                                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 11:54 +0000
                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-04 06:31 +0000
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 12:29 -0500
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 14:48 -0500
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-01 18:06 -0500
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 20:27 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 18:38 -0500

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#648902

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 09:01 -0500
Message-ID<ooov38$10ol$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648900
On 9/6/17 8:51 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "- hide quoted text -
> On 9/6/17 8:00 AM, john wrote:
>> MM
>> ">Zero volume structureless particles.
>>
>> What's wrong with that?  Use logic, not intuition.
>> "
>> If you see nothing wrong with that, Michael, I can't reach you
>>
> 
> You say it's obvious, John, but you can't give any rationale for it.
> What does that tell you?
> - show quoted text -"
> 
> This is an OLD philosophical debate, Odd.
> Whether something can come from Nothing.

Sorry, I'm not following you, John. Are you saying that anything with 
zero volume is Nothing? Does this follow from a John-law like 
"Everything that exists has nonzero volume"? If so, what's the rationale 
for this John-law?

See, John? You keep talking about logic, but you can't follow your own. 
It's all just gut feel, faith, to you.

> It actually supports the existence of God, to say that. Do you say that something can come from nothing, Odd?
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#648907

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 07:26 -0700
Message-ID<f3cb16a3-2915-4427-9297-f4052d573d00@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648902
Odd
"
> 
> This is an OLD philosophical debate, Odd. 
> Whether something can come from Nothing. 

Sorry, I'm not following you, John. "

You seriously need to learn logic, Odd.

"Are you saying that anything with 
zero volume is Nothing? Does this follow from a John-law like 
"Everything that exists has nonzero volume"? If so, what's the rationale 
for this John-law? 

See, John? You keep talking about logic, but you can't follow your own. 
It's all just gut feel, faith, to you. "

Odd, you're a zombie.
You really need to learn some logic.
Reading is good, and you say you've read lots, but maybe take a few science classes or something, where they test for comprehension.
That may be your problem- comprehending things like the difference between something and nothing.

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#648917

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-09-06 16:24 +0000
Message-ID<oop7g7$d83$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#648907
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>You seriously need to learn logic, Odd.

>"Are you saying that anything with 
>zero volume is Nothing? Does this follow from a John-law like 
>"Everything that exists has nonzero volume"? If so, what's the rationale 
>for this John-law? 

>See, John? You keep talking about logic, but you can't follow your own. 
>It's all just gut feel, faith, to you. "

>Odd, you're a zombie.
>You really need to learn some logic.

OK, I just asked this, but I'll ask again. Explain, using logic, why
zero volume particles must be impossible.
Don't skip simple steps, if something depends on 1+1=2, mention that fact.

>Reading is good, and you say you've read lots, but maybe take a few science
>classes or something, where they test for comprehension.

Odd seems to be _very_ well read.  Especially for a non-science type.

>That may be your problem- comprehending things like the difference between
>something and nothing.
>

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#648928

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 12:52 -0500
Message-ID<oopck3$1vas$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648907
On 9/6/17 9:26 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "
>>
>> This is an OLD philosophical debate, Odd.
>> Whether something can come from Nothing.
> 
> Sorry, I'm not following you, John. "
> 
> You seriously need to learn logic, Odd.
> 
> "Are you saying that anything with
> zero volume is Nothing? Does this follow from a John-law like
> "Everything that exists has nonzero volume"? If so, what's the rationale
> for this John-law?
> 
> See, John? You keep talking about logic, but you can't follow your own.
> It's all just gut feel, faith, to you. "
> 
> Odd, you're a zombie.
> You really need to learn some logic.

I'm WAITING for some from you.
Here's your John-law: Everything that exists has nonzero volume.
Make a case for that. Go ahead. Show the LOGICAL ARGUMENT that this is true.

Let's just remind ourselves: "It just is!" is not logic.

> Reading is good, and you say you've read lots, but maybe take a few science classes or something, where they test for comprehension.
> That may be your problem- comprehending things like the difference between something and nothing.
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#648932

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 11:07 -0700
Message-ID<26f583fe-4366-44a9-a0f9-83a7db015749@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648928
Odd
Are you SURE you're not PD?
Don't lie

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#648933

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 13:12 -0500
Message-ID<oopdpl$1e9$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648932
On 9/6/17 1:07 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> Are you SURE you're not PD?

Quite.

> Don't lie
> 

So, John, when are you going to learn that when your brain says, "This 
is so, it just is, it's obvious," that this is NOT your brain being 
logical. That's not what logic means.

Do you know what logic means?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#648938

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 11:50 -0700
Message-ID<924c8c6b-0ae7-47e5-a521-cd38a3da8485@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648933
Odd
"On 9/6/17 1:07 PM, john wrote: 
> Odd 
> Are you SURE you're not PD? 

Quite. 

> Don't lie 
>
"
Mm.
I think you're lying.
And you already said you don't believe in logic.

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#648942

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 14:03 -0500
Message-ID<oopgpn$7ie$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648938
On 9/6/17 1:50 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "On 9/6/17 1:07 PM, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> Are you SURE you're not PD?
> 
> Quite.
> 
>> Don't lie
>>
> "
> Mm.
> I think you're lying.

Well, John, you think lots of things are so, and you can't for the life 
of you come up with any arguments why they are so.

> And you already said you don't believe in logic.

Bullshit, John. Stop it. Stop lying about what other people say to you. 
It's propaganda-flinging, and it is morally repugnant.

What I've told you is that you are NOT using "logic". You are confusing 
logic and intuition, which are NOT the same things. "Counter-intuitive" 
is NOT synonymous with "illogical". Get that through your skull. What 
I've told you is that common sense and intuition are not reliable 
indicators of truth. LOGIC, which is something else entirely, can get 
you to a place of truth. But you don't use it.

I have NEVER said that I don't believe in logic.

I have ALWAYS said that what you use to defend your beliefs is not logic.

So stop lying that, mmmmk?


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#648914

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-09-06 16:15 +0000
Message-ID<oop6ut$d83$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#648891
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>">Zero volume structureless particles. 

>What's wrong with that?  Use logic, not intuition. 
>"
>If you see nothing wrong with that, Michael, I can't reach you

That's not using logic. That's your intuition, or an "appeal to the
obvious" logical fallacy.

Answer the question using logic.

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#648940

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 13:58 -0500
Message-ID<oopgh2$70e$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648891
On 9/6/17 8:00 AM, john wrote:
> MM
> ">Zero volume structureless particles.
> 
> What's wrong with that?  Use logic, not intuition.
> "
> If you see nothing wrong with that, Michael, I can't reach you
> 


So, just to sum up some things.

It's plain that you are a little frustrated by not being able to 
convince anybody that your ideas make sense and that the prevailing 
ideas make no sense.

Here's a tip:
You are not going to "reach" anybody by simply repeating your articles 
of faith over and over again, and you're certainly not going to "reach" 
anybody by declaring that other people's ideas are nonsense because they 
conflict with your articles of faith.

This doesn't even work in religion, let alone in science.

What converts people is LOGIC. To you, logic means "what makes sense to 
me." That's not logic. That's gut feel. That's faith.

Here's what logic is.
Step 1: Start with a statement that you and your correspondent can 
mutually agree is true.
Step 2: Show that there is a next step that MUST be true if the mutually 
agreed statement is true.
Step 3: Show that there is a next step that MUST be true if the 
demonstrated statement in the previous step is true.
Step 4: Repeat to incrementally march through steps until...
Step 5: The conclusion (your article of faith) is shown to be 
necessarily true if the previous step has been shown true.

THAT, John, is logic. Start with mutually agreeable axioms, then follow 
NECESSARY CONSEQUENCES from that until you arrive at the statement you 
claim is true. If you're not doing this step-by-step deductive flow, 
then you're not really using logic at all.

So every time you claim that your ideas come from "logic", I'm going to 
ask you, where are the mutually agreed axioms? Where are the steps that 
take you from those to your idea? If you can't produce, then your claim 
of "logic" is bogus.

Face it, John, you just want those things that make sense to you to be 
true WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT WHY they are true, and so you are attempting 
to justify that by calling it "logic", when IT ISN'T LOGIC.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#648897

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-06 08:42 -0500
Message-ID<ooou09$ugf$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648843
On 9/5/17 7:17 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "- show quoted text -
> John, logic is not intuition. Those two words do not mean the same
> thing. Look them up. Likewise, "counterintuitive" is not a synonym for
> "illogical". Look them up.
> 
> Notice that as soon as I asked you for a rationale, ANY rationale, for
> your naked assertions, you flinch. "Why do I have to have a rationale?"
> you whine. "Why do I have to try to convince anyone about what I believe
> is true? Why can't I just call them lost idiots if they don't believe it?"
> - show quoted text -"
> 
> Because it avoids all the idiotic things YOU believe in?

So this is how your "logic" works.

Your rationale for the John-laws you believe in is that it avoids other 
claims which you find idiotic, and those are idiotic because they 
conflict with the John-laws you believe in without rationale.

You see how faith works? You see how it doesn't actually involve any 
thinking? Either things agree with the faith or they don't.


> Zero volume structureless particles.
> Matter collapsing to a (gasp) SINGULARITY!
> Charges moving randomly but at great speed within a confined space.
> Invisible Matter NOT made of what OURS is.
> And SO many others!
> 
> What a mess
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#648666

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-04 15:39 -0700
Message-ID<79b36659-91cf-489e-a042-94dad844c998@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648603
Notes on aether

Aether exists and that is the model for physica.
Aether is matter that is infinitely small.
It knots up into positive and negative charges.
These charges form atoms and molecules and us.

Aether supports radiation by electromagnetic waves.
Aether forms into mass through life processes.
Aether in deep space gobbles up individual atoms and molecules.

All the information from all the radiation of all the radiators are found
in aether at a given time.

Aether supports all radiation and so is the source of all frequencies.
Aether thus creates oscillators formed by positive feedback to electronic amps.

Aether is infinitely small and present throughout the infinite universe which
is beyond the scope of time, and always beyond the scope of space with our
measurement apparatus - how else could the universe be infinite?

Aether is the breath of the Divine.
Aether is the source of life, of emotions, of intellect, of spirituality, of
creativity, and beyond aether there is the realm of the soul.

Some pop group should call itself aether and promote aether.

That should help to restore sanity to the human race.

Now suffering intensely, and mutated to the level of howler monkeys, by the
e=mcc virus.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#648747

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-09-05 11:54 +0000
Message-ID<oom38t$t97$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#648591
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>If you can't draw a model of your understanding of something that exists 
>in 3D, then your understanding of that thing is poor at best.
>Wouldn't you agree, Michael?

Nope.

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#648571

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-09-04 06:31 +0000
Message-ID<ooirvf$fgu$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#648543
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"- show quoted text -
>Waitaminute, John. You go on and on about fractal matter, and antimatter 
>first being another 'level' and then the stuff in alternating galaxy arms, 
>and then go on about precessing galaxies and your 'suck' gravity, 
>but you complain about *others* babbling??? 

>Don't you think that is rather hypocritical? 
>"

>Michael- for someone who seems to hate the idea of rotating preceding 
>thingies,

No, I dislike the retarded rotating precessing spinny things you dream up
which would violate half the laws of physics if they existed.

> you sure live on a rotating precessing Earth which is orbiting 
>a rotating star which is orbiting in a spinning galaxy whose Center is a 
>spinning BH, don't you?

No evidence the centrak BH is spinning.  No evidence it is not.

(It's not even certain it's actually a black hole but what else could it
be, that has all the properties we observe?)

>Does nothing spin in your atomic model? Oh, right, they USE the word 
>'spin', but it doesn't MEAN spin. 

>Can you DRAW your model, Michael?

WTF would that mean? The model is a bunch of math and physics, not a
"Visible V8 Engine" model where you can watch the pistons go up and down
while the valves open and close, as Odd would reply.  Besides, drawing is
for artists (which I am not), not scientists.

>(I know it isn't actually YOURS, as in you've never come up with anything 
>of your own).

Science isn't a contest of who can come up with any kooky idea, it's 
supposed to be modeling how Nature works.

>Can you draw a simple picture of the model you believe in, Michael?

The standard model is complicated. You can't draw math.

>Answer- no. There IS no model.

You don't even know what a science model even is.

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#648615

FromLofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-04 12:29 -0500
Message-ID<qn2rqcdvq79hponf4e37iul6aqaf1ejsnn@4ax.com>
In reply to#648470
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 07:18:49 -0700 (PDT), john <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Ari
>Take some university physics and biology.
>You babble like a child 

Spent any time in a science library lately?  Biology is fun, too.  As
The Dead Poets' Society says, "GET some!" [1]

You know, you are fairly eloquent, but in poetry, not in science.  And
you know?  There are newsgroups for poets too.  But this isn't one.

[1] It's "Quintessential" from their "Deprogramming" album.  You like
that, you'd also like Android Lust.  Widen your horizons.

-- 
Goat

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#648166

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-01 14:48 -0500
Message-ID<oocdi3$t07$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648123
On 9/1/17 7:24 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 4:26:52 AM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/28/17 6:53 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> How can life cells split, duplicate, if each atom in the cell does not divide into two?
>>>
>>> If half the atoms go there, then the power of the cell is
>>> reduced by half, quarter and so on with every division. Disastrous! Life just
>>> cannot work this way.
>>>
>>> THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN LIFE IS THUS THEORIZE THAT THE ATOMS SPLIT EQUALLY
>>> IN CELL DIVISION TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE CELL.
>>
>> Nope. The best way to explain life is to theorize that cells grow and
>> divide by the absorption of external nutrients, bringing in new
>> compounds. This is after all why we eat food, with proteins, so that the
>> amino acids in the ingested food can be used to create brand new
>> proteins in brand new cells.
> 
> This does not explain the cell duplication process. Certainly eating and
> drinking brings solution and nutrients to the individual cell, but that does
> not explain how it divides into two equal parts.

Yes, it does. In the case of the nucleus, there is chromosomal 
DUPLICATION through a factory-line assimilation of new molecules, not 
through the splitting of atoms, prior to division. For other organelles 
in the cell, there is the generation of new organelles prior to, and 
following, cell division by the assimilation of new molecules, which is 
what protein synthesis is all about. That's why the DNA is there, to 
provide the instructions for protein synthesis from absorbed molecules 
from outside nutrients.

Good heavens, it seems you never learned cellular biology.
Or maybe you did, but have since forgotten it completely. Either way, 
you don't know it now.

>>
>> It seems that in your theorizing, you have forgotten entirely that life
>> involves eating, for a reason.
>>
>> This is what happens when you come to believe that idle, random thoughts
>> coming out of your brain are all gems, valuable finds -- when in fact
>> all you are doing is exposing that you have forgotten most of what you
>> learned as a schoolchild.
>>
>>>
>>> As the cell takes in more water from the membrane, the concentration decreases
>>> and more atoms have to get into solution to keep up the required concentration.
>>>
>>> So atoms must divide gracefully and as there are more atoms now there is the
>>> possibility for the creation of another cell.
>>>
>>> Now the mystery is that if the atoms do get halved in mass, how do they regain
>>> the mass to the original size before splitting?
>>>
>>> One may theorise here that when they get halved then they gain in size from
>>> the aether; they grow from aether as plants grow from soil.
>>>
>>> Just as plants once again turn to soil after they die.
>>>
>>> Hmm, this explains quite a lot, I think.
>>>
>>> Aether forms all masses as positive and negative charges. When the size of the
>>> atom decreases, it again builds up from the aether if it can, or vanishes into
>>> aether otherwise.
>>>
>>> Death then, happens when the cell can no longer build up its atoms from the
>>> aether.
>>>
>>> The notion that the concentration of atoms must remain constant in any solution
>>> is thus a very powerful one, as I just worked out.
>>>
>>> Whether it is a correct idea or not I do not know, but then a theory is just
>>> that, a conjecture which may or may not be validated later to the status of an
>>> universal fact (for the moment). Knowledge in science is always provisional, or
>>> else it turns into a religion like e=mcc.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#648215

FromSerg io <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-09-01 18:06 -0500
Message-ID<oocp71$1dt6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648123
On 9/1/2017 7:24 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 4:26:52 AM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/28/17 6:53 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> How can life cells split, duplicate, if each atom in the cell does not divide into two?
>>>
>>> If half the atoms go there, then the power of the cell is
>>> reduced by half, quarter and so on with every division. Disastrous! Life just
>>> cannot work this way.
>>>
>>> THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN LIFE IS THUS THEORIZE THAT THE ATOMS SPLIT EQUALLY
>>> IN CELL DIVISION TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE CELL.
>>
>> Nope. The best way to explain life is to theorize that cells grow and
>> divide by the absorption of external nutrients, bringing in new
>> compounds. This is after all why we eat food, with proteins, so that the
>> amino acids in the ingested food can be used to create brand new
>> proteins in brand new cells.
> 
> This does not explain the cell duplication process. Certainly eating and
> drinking brings solution and nutrients to the individual cell, but that does
> not explain how it divides into two equal parts.

cell division, google for it.   Basic Biology, dude.   Everyone knows 
that already,

you dont want to loook like a schmuck denying it, or saying atoms 
devide, or not knowing about it.


>>
>> It seems that in your theorizing, you have forgotten entirely that life
>> involves eating, for a reason.
>>
>> This is what happens when you come to believe that idle, random thoughts
>> coming out of your brain are all gems, valuable finds -- when in fact
>> all you are doing is exposing that you have forgotten most of what you
>> learned as a schoolchild.

hard to look at some things sometimes,  google cell division.

>>
>>>
>>> As the cell takes in more water from the membrane, the concentration decreases
>>> and more atoms have to get into solution to keep up the required concentration.
>>>
>>> So atoms must divide gracefully and as there are more atoms now there is the
>>> possibility for the creation of another cell.
>>>
>>> Now the mystery is that if the atoms do get halved in mass, how do they regain
>>> the mass to the original size before splitting?
>>>
>>> One may theorise here that when they get halved then they gain in size from
>>> the aether; they grow from aether as plants grow from soil.

I will sell you aether is $99.95 an oz.

>>>
>>> Just as plants once again turn to soil after they die.
>>>
>>> Hmm, this explains quite a lot, I think.
>>>
>>> Aether forms all masses as positive and negative charges. When the size of the
>>> atom decreases, it again builds up from the aether if it can, or vanishes into
>>> aether otherwise.
>>>
>>> Death then, happens when the cell can no longer build up its atoms from the
>>> aether.
>>>
>>> The notion that the concentration of atoms must remain constant in any solution
>>> is thus a very powerful one, as I just worked out.
>>>
>>> Whether it is a correct idea or not I do not know, but then a theory is just
>>> that, a conjecture which may or may not be validated later to the status of an
>>> universal fact (for the moment). Knowledge in science is always provisional, or
>>> else it turns into a religion like e=mcc.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 

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#648269

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-01 20:27 -0700
Message-ID<5cfe1788-ab91-47ba-bf55-8f19f8b966a6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648215
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:07:20 AM UTC+10, Serg io wrote:
> On 9/1/2017 7:24 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 4:26:52 AM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 8/28/17 6:53 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >>> How can life cells split, duplicate, if each atom in the cell does not divide into two?
> >>>
> >>> If half the atoms go there, then the power of the cell is
> >>> reduced by half, quarter and so on with every division. Disastrous! Life just
> >>> cannot work this way.
> >>>
> >>> THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN LIFE IS THUS THEORIZE THAT THE ATOMS SPLIT EQUALLY
> >>> IN CELL DIVISION TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE CELL.
> >>
> >> Nope. The best way to explain life is to theorize that cells grow and
> >> divide by the absorption of external nutrients, bringing in new
> >> compounds. This is after all why we eat food, with proteins, so that the
> >> amino acids in the ingested food can be used to create brand new
> >> proteins in brand new cells.
> > 
> > This does not explain the cell duplication process. Certainly eating and
> > drinking brings solution and nutrients to the individual cell, but that does
> > not explain how it divides into two equal parts.
> 
> cell division, google for it.   Basic Biology, dude.   Everyone knows 
> that already,

I did it in school back in 1966 in Std. 6
> 
> you dont want to loook like a schmuck denying it, or saying atoms 
> devide, or not knowing about it.

I am not affirming or denying anything. I am suggesting that atoms/molecules
in solution break up to maintain the concentration or number of atoms/molecules
per unit volume.
This is perhaps a new idea.
But it is based upon an old one, that is, the infinite divisibility of matter.
> 
> 
> >>
> >> It seems that in your theorizing, you have forgotten entirely that life
> >> involves eating, for a reason.
> >>
> >> This is what happens when you come to believe that idle, random thoughts
> >> coming out of your brain are all gems, valuable finds -- when in fact
> >> all you are doing is exposing that you have forgotten most of what you
> >> learned as a schoolchild.
> 
> hard to look at some things sometimes,  google cell division.
> 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> As the cell takes in more water from the membrane, the concentration decreases
> >>> and more atoms have to get into solution to keep up the required concentration.
> >>>
> >>> So atoms must divide gracefully and as there are more atoms now there is the
> >>> possibility for the creation of another cell.
> >>>
> >>> Now the mystery is that if the atoms do get halved in mass, how do they regain
> >>> the mass to the original size before splitting?
> >>>
> >>> One may theorise here that when they get halved then they gain in size from
> >>> the aether; they grow from aether as plants grow from soil.
> 
> I will sell you aether is $99.95 an oz.
> 
> >>>
> >>> Just as plants once again turn to soil after they die.
> >>>
> >>> Hmm, this explains quite a lot, I think.
> >>>
> >>> Aether forms all masses as positive and negative charges. When the size of the
> >>> atom decreases, it again builds up from the aether if it can, or vanishes into
> >>> aether otherwise.
> >>>
> >>> Death then, happens when the cell can no longer build up its atoms from the
> >>> aether.
> >>>
> >>> The notion that the concentration of atoms must remain constant in any solution
> >>> is thus a very powerful one, as I just worked out.
> >>>
> >>> Whether it is a correct idea or not I do not know, but then a theory is just
> >>> that, a conjecture which may or may not be validated later to the status of an
> >>> universal fact (for the moment). Knowledge in science is always provisional, or
> >>> else it turns into a religion like e=mcc.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Arindam Banerjee
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >

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#648223

FromLofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-01 18:38 -0500
Message-ID<7irjqc5hfosktui1a4fjur7mstfn9c8751@4ax.com>
In reply to#648123
On Fri, 1 Sep 2017 05:24:48 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> This does not explain the cell duplication process. Certainly eating
> and drinking brings solution and nutrients to the individual cell, but
> that does not explain how it divides into two equal parts.

Really?  You're sure of that?  We learned a perfectly good explanation
for exactly that in fifth grade.  And the schools around here are not
that all-fired great, yet we did learn about mitosis.

Here's a clue: "spindle fibers".

Free advice, the same as I gave "Henry":  Go to a library.  Start at "A"
in the card catalog, or the shelf nearest the door.  Go, then come back
in a year and show everyone you've learned something.

Hell, I keep thinking....  Forget it.  It doesn't matter what I think.

-- 
Goat

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