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The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible?

Started byArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
First post2017-08-28 16:53 -0700
Last post2017-09-01 18:38 -0500
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  The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 16:53 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 00:54 -0700
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 05:33 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 06:18 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-29 09:46 -0500
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 15:42 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 20:14 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-29 16:33 +0000
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 12:48 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 14:18 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-29 21:28 +0000
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 17:19 -0700
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 17:57 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 18:26 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 18:41 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 20:40 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 15:53 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 16:38 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 18:23 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-29 20:55 -0500
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 19:06 -0700
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-29 21:16 -0500
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 03:42 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 06:38 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 17:21 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 19:20 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-29 22:46 -0400
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 20:00 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 21:13 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-30 01:21 -0700
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 03:03 -0700
                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-30 05:15 -0700
                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 05:31 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 10:24 -0700
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 17:44 -0700
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 17:46 -0700
                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 21:31 -0400
                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 18:35 -0700
                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 22:06 -0400
                                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 19:21 -0700
                                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 23:29 -0400
                                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 21:21 -0700
                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 23:05 -0700
                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-06 13:42 -0500
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 21:22 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 20:34 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 22:44 -0700
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 10:49 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 17:55 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-02 11:05 -0500
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 09:56 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 02:57 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 20:34 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 19:31 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Boris Mohar <borism_void_@sympatico.ca> - 2017-08-29 09:22 -0400
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 07:03 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:37 -0500
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 11:43 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-30 20:26 +1000
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 04:52 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-09-01 17:28 +1000
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 04:59 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 17:39 -0400
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 16:28 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 21:47 -0400
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 19:25 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 23:23 -0400
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 06:36 -0700
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-02 11:44 -0500
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-02 18:43 -0400
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 20:42 -0700
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 17:13 -0400
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-30 16:17 +0000
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 09:25 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 17:22 -0700
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 21:35 -0400
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 18:44 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 22:11 -0400
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 19:18 -0700
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 23:27 -0400
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 20:30 -0700
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 16:26 -0400
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 13:53 -0700
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-30 14:27 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 10:45 -0700
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-30 12:07 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 14:34 -0700
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-30 15:02 -0700
    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:26 -0500
      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 05:24 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 08:21 -0700
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 17:40 -0700
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-01 23:36 -0500
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 22:08 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-02 11:48 -0500
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-02 18:50 -0400
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-03 23:58 -0500
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-04 19:27 -0400
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 16:37 -0700
                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-06 11:24 -0500
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-02 18:19 -0400
            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 22:06 -0700
              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 22:17 -0700
                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-02 12:13 -0500
                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 03:30 -0700
                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 07:18 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 16:57 -0700
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-04 00:33 +0000
                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 19:00 -0700
                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 19:16 -0700
                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 19:35 -0700
                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 19:44 -0700
                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-04 06:36 +0000
                                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 05:13 -0700
                                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 13:23 +0000
                                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 08:52 -0700
                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 14:52 -0500
                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 14:57 -0700
                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 00:26 +0000
                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 16:12 -0700
                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 16:24 -0700
                                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 00:26 +0000
                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 00:26 +0000
                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 12:01 +0000
                                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 05:39 -0700
                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 08:16 -0500
                                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 05:44 -0700
                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 08:20 -0500
                                                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 07:09 -0700
                                                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 09:14 -0500
                                                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 07:36 -0700
                                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 11:39 -0700
                                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 13:14 -0700
                                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:38 -0500
                                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 16:10 -0500
                                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 17:17 -0700
                                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-06 02:50 +0000
                                                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 06:00 -0700
                                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:43 -0500
                                                                Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 06:51 -0700
                                                                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 09:01 -0500
                                                                    Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 07:26 -0700
                                                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-06 16:24 +0000
                                                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 12:52 -0500
                                                                        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 11:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 13:12 -0500
                                                                            Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 11:50 -0700
                                                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 14:03 -0500
                                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-06 16:15 +0000
                                                              Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 13:58 -0500
                                                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:42 -0500
                                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 15:39 -0700
                                  Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 11:54 +0000
                          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-04 06:31 +0000
                      Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 12:29 -0500
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 14:48 -0500
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-01 18:06 -0500
          Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 20:27 -0700
        Re: The gentle division of atoms in a living cell - do half go there to form another or do all atoms divide as matter is infinitely divisible? Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 18:38 -0500

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#648380

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-09-02 18:19 -0400
Message-ID<59ab2e8c$0$7842$b1db1813$713c3f2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#648284
On 9/2/2017 12:36 AM, Serg io wrote:
> On 9/1/2017 7:40 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 1:21:14 AM UTC+10, Edward Prochak 
>> wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 8:24:52 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee 
>>> wrote:
>>> []
>>>>
>>>> This does not explain the cell duplication process. 
> 
> mitosis
> 
>      <snip crap>
>>
>> Since the replicated molecule is not inserted into the cell from food and
>> drink, only solutions and proteins are, which DO NOT amount to a copy of
>> the molecule replicated, the only way for the molecule to replicate is as
>> any duplicating machine does - BUT UPTO A POINT.
>>
>> The duplicating machine needs paper and ink as inputs. Most 
>> importantly it needs
>> the original work which has go be duplicated. Upon the paper and using 
>> the
>> ink, it creates a duplicate USING THE EXACT STRUCTURE OF THE ORIGIINAL.
>>
>> I would extrapolate from the above example, and say that the cell in
>> replicating is doing just the same thing. It is using its own internal
>> molecular structure, the extra inputs, and - conjecturing - the aether 
>> that is
>> everywhere; to make the exact copy of itself by transferring a part of 
>> its own entire original shape and size to the new molecule.
>>
>> This has to be an automatic process, depending upon the quantity of 
>> inputs to
>> the cell.
>>
>> If the theory of infinite divisibility of matter is taken into 
>> account, then
>> the above process is merely obvious.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Arindam Banerjee
>>
>>
> 
> na, just google "mitosis"  no magical aeather required.
> 
> 
Well, OK, maybe some of the legenday "life energy" will be required.

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#648291

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-01 22:06 -0700
Message-ID<a33fdc37-63d9-431a-a4ec-d9ff5fae327e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648234
On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 8:40:30 PM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
[]
> 
> Now about the matter in hand.
> 
> Since the replicated molecule is not inserted into the cell from food and 
> drink, only solutions and proteins are, which DO NOT amount to a copy of 
> the molecule replicated, the only way for the molecule to replicate is as
> any duplicating machine does - BUT UPTO A POINT. 

there is no "up to a point" about it. The DNA is replicated in a well
known process. The process is so well known, we now have machines that
can perform this process automatically.
> 
> The duplicating machine needs paper and ink as inputs.
> Most importantly it needs
> the original work which has go be duplicated. Upon the paper and using the 
> ink, it creates a duplicate USING THE EXACT STRUCTURE OF THE ORIGIINAL.

Obvious.
> 
> I would extrapolate from the above example, and say that the cell in 
> replicating is doing just the same thing. It is using its own internal 
> molecular structure,

Yes, the DNA replication process is well known and very precise.

> the extra inputs, and - conjecturing - the aether that is
> everywhere; to make the exact copy of itself by transferring
> a part of its own entire original shape and size to the new molecule.

No conjecture needed there. The DNA molecule splits with one half
becoming the basis for let's call it the left side copy, and the
other half becoming the basis for the right hand copy. This happens
in a precise process. No new theory needed.
> 
> This has to be an automatic process, depending upon the quantity 
> of inputs to the cell. 

So automatic that given the right reagents the process can be
performed outside a cell. It is complex but controllable.
> 
> If the theory of infinite divisibility of matter is taken into account, then
> the above process is merely obvious.

The matter has no need to divide.
Sad but I think one day your grandson
 (that's who you are holding in your profile photo right?)
is going to be ashamed to read how misguided you are here.

> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> 
Really, I think you need some help.
Else you are just being a troll.

For the first case, some studying of chemistry may be helpful
In the second case, just stop being so annoyingly obtuse.

  Ed

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#648294

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-01 22:17 -0700
Message-ID<0c8843cd-593f-4a9e-a331-153ce9510671@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648291
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 3:06:42 PM UTC+10, Edward Prochak wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 8:40:30 PM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> []
> > 
> > Now about the matter in hand.
> > 
> > Since the replicated molecule is not inserted into the cell from food and 
> > drink, only solutions and proteins are, which DO NOT amount to a copy of 
> > the molecule replicated, the only way for the molecule to replicate is as
> > any duplicating machine does - BUT UPTO A POINT. 
> 
> there is no "up to a point" about it. The DNA is replicated in a well
> known process. The process is so well known, we now have machines that
> can perform this process automatically.

blah-blah and bullying. 

Replication means that one becomes two.

Plain maths cannot be ignored. When one molecule becomes two, then the extra
one has to be a copy of the original. Both fatten up with the proteins and
aether to the size of the original - this is a good explanation, though who
knows what is really happening. 

Proteins and solution come into a cell which then replicates.
The only way is through molecule DIVISION.

That is what provides the integrity to the molecule.

Observation that this is Mitosis is just that.
It is not explanation.
You are confusing the two.

Consider an egg, a single cell.
From one cell, it becomes very many.
Now isn't this wonderful, magical!
To dismiss that wonder with some crude term like mitosis is so robotic, so 
intellectually shallow, so lacking in insight.

Again, observation and labelling of processes does not mean explanation of 
the process.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#648341

FromSerg io <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-09-02 12:13 -0500
Message-ID<ooeotk$bbv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648294
On 9/2/2017 12:17 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 3:06:42 PM UTC+10, Edward Prochak wrote:
>> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 8:40:30 PM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> []
>>>
>>> Now about the matter in hand.
>>>
>>> Since the replicated molecule is not inserted into the cell from food and
>>> drink, only solutions and proteins are, which DO NOT amount to a copy of
>>> the molecule replicated, the only way for the molecule to replicate is as
>>> any duplicating machine does - BUT UPTO A POINT.
>>
>> there is no "up to a point" about it. The DNA is replicated in a well
>> known process. The process is so well known, we now have machines that
>> can perform this process automatically.
> 
> blah-blah and bullying.

I do not see blah/bulling there, only fact. It is all over the internet, 
basic knowledge stuff.

> 
> Replication means that one becomes two.
> 
> Plain maths cannot be ignored. When one molecule becomes two, then the extra
> one has to be a copy of the original. 

almost true.  wiki Mitosis.

> Both fatten up with the proteins and
> aether to the size of the original - this is a good explanation, though who
> knows what is really happening.

but aether is nothing, so how can something "fatten up" on nothing ?

you seem to view aether as food, or as something that has mass or bulk 
that can fatten stuff up, is that true ?

please note I am not a racist+bigot, but I know science, math, some 
engineering.

> 
> Proteins and solution come into a cell which then replicates.
> The only way is through molecule DIVISION.
> 
> That is what provides the integrity to the molecule.

Mitosis occurs only in eukaryotic cells. Prokaryotic cells, which lack a 
nucleus, divide by a different process called binary fission. Mitosis 
varies between organisms.[6] For example, animal cells undergo an "open" 
mitosis, where the nuclear envelope breaks down before the chromosomes 
separate, whereas fungi undergo a "closed" mitosis, where chromosomes 
divide within an intact cell nucleus.[7] Most animal cells undergo a 
shape change, known as mitotic cell rounding, to adopt a near spherical 
morphology at the start of mitosis. Most human cells are produced by 
mitotic cell division. Important exceptions include the gametes – sperm 
and egg cells – which are produced by meiosis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitosis

> 
> Observation that this is Mitosis is just that.
> It is not explanation.
> You are confusing the two.
> 
> Consider an egg, a single cell.
>  From one cell, it becomes very many.
> Now isn't this wonderful, magical!
> To dismiss that wonder with some crude term like mitosis is so robotic, so
> intellectually shallow, so lacking in insight. 

a judgement from one who needs to catch up on the field of Biology. and 
the miricle of life is amazing.

> 
> Again, observation and labeling of processes does not mean explanation of
> the process.

perhaps you can give further explanation of your labels, even using URLs 
to existing science, no need to retype it all.

this is an exciting field, one of the lastest technology fronters left, 
take a DNA strand, snip it at the right place, recombine, now done in 2 
year college schools.

> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> 

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#648454

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-03 03:30 -0700
Message-ID<75522588-bd2e-4f66-9867-952bb176eeb5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648341
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 3:14:35 AM UTC+10, Serg io wrote:
> On 9/2/2017 12:17 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 3:06:42 PM UTC+10, Edward Prochak wrote:
> >> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 8:40:30 PM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >> []
> >>>
> >>> Now about the matter in hand.
> >>>
> >>> Since the replicated molecule is not inserted into the cell from food and
> >>> drink, only solutions and proteins are, which DO NOT amount to a copy of
> >>> the molecule replicated, the only way for the molecule to replicate is as
> >>> any duplicating machine does - BUT UPTO A POINT.
> >>
> >> there is no "up to a point" about it. The DNA is replicated in a well
> >> known process. The process is so well known, we now have machines that
> >> can perform this process automatically.
> > 
> > blah-blah and bullying.
> 
> I do not see blah/bulling there, only fact. It is all over the internet, 
> basic knowledge stuff.

Not an explanation.
> 
> > 
> > Replication means that one becomes two.
> > 
> > Plain maths cannot be ignored. When one molecule becomes two, then the extra
> > one has to be a copy of the original. 
> 
> almost true.  wiki Mitosis.

So there has been a copy and the original molecule split up into two.
How that happened is the question.
The most obvious answer is that every atom divided into two nicely and 
beautifully to produce two molecules.
This is an EXPLANATION and not a labelling of an observation.
> 
> > Both fatten up with the proteins and
> > aether to the size of the original - this is a good explanation, though who
> > knows what is really happening.
> 
> but aether is nothing, so how can something "fatten up" on nothing ?
> 
> you seem to view aether as food, or as something that has mass or bulk 
> that can fatten stuff up, is that true ?
> 
> please note I am not a racist+bigot, but I know science, math, some 
> engineering.
> 
> > 
> > Proteins and solution come into a cell which then replicates.
> > The only way is through molecule DIVISION.
> > 
> > That is what provides the integrity to the molecule.
> 
> Mitosis occurs only in eukaryotic cells. Prokaryotic cells, which lack a 
> nucleus, divide by a different process called binary fission. Mitosis 
> varies between organisms.[6] For example, animal cells undergo an "open" 
> mitosis, where the nuclear envelope breaks down before the chromosomes 
> separate, whereas fungi undergo a "closed" mitosis, where chromosomes 
> divide within an intact cell nucleus.[7] Most animal cells undergo a 
> shape change, known as mitotic cell rounding, to adopt a near spherical 
> morphology at the start of mitosis. Most human cells are produced by 
> mitotic cell division. Important exceptions include the gametes – sperm 
> and egg cells – which are produced by meiosis.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitosis
> 
> > 
> > Observation that this is Mitosis is just that.
> > It is not explanation.
> > You are confusing the two.
> > 
> > Consider an egg, a single cell.
> >  From one cell, it becomes very many.
> > Now isn't this wonderful, magical!
> > To dismiss that wonder with some crude term like mitosis is so robotic, so
> > intellectually shallow, so lacking in insight. 
> 
> a judgement from one who needs to catch up on the field of Biology. and 
> the miricle of life is amazing.
> 
> > 
> > Again, observation and labeling of processes does not mean explanation of
> > the process.
> 
> perhaps you can give further explanation of your labels, even using URLs 
> to existing science, no need to retype it all.
> 
> this is an exciting field, one of the lastest technology fronters left, 
> take a DNA strand, snip it at the right place, recombine, now done in 2 
> year college schools.
> 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
> >

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#648470

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-03 07:18 -0700
Message-ID<7cecb525-7f16-49f0-bff1-d4d0fbe32c95@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648454
Ari
Take some university physics and biology.
You babble like a child 

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#648532

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-03 16:57 -0700
Message-ID<c8d42324-e0b7-4b96-bc38-17600ea74838@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648470
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 12:18:55 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
> Ari
> Take some university physics and biology.
> You babble like a child

You babble worse than a child then try to patronise.
That is strange.

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#648537

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-09-04 00:33 +0000
Message-ID<ooi70a$iab$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#648470
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Ari
>Take some university physics and biology.
>You babble like a child 

Waitaminute, John. You go on and on about fractal matter, and antimatter
first being another 'level' and then the stuff in alternating galaxy arms,
and then go on about precessing galaxies and your 'suck' gravity,
but you complain about *others* babbling???

Don't you think that is rather hypocritical?

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#648543

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-03 19:00 -0700
Message-ID<e4487c36-b573-45ff-b87c-4e33bb54eeba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648537
MM
"- show quoted text -
Waitaminute, John. You go on and on about fractal matter, and antimatter 
first being another 'level' and then the stuff in alternating galaxy arms, 
and then go on about precessing galaxies and your 'suck' gravity, 
but you complain about *others* babbling??? 

Don't you think that is rather hypocritical? 
"

Michael- for someone who seems to hate the idea of rotating preceding thingies, you sure live on a rotating precessing Earth which is orbiting a rotating star which is orbiting in a spinning galaxy whose Center is a spinning BH, don't you?
Does nothing spin in your atomic model? Oh, right, they USE the word 'spin', but it doesn't MEAN spin. Can you DRAW your model, Michael? (I know it isn't actually YOURS, as in you've never come up with anything of your own).
Can you draw a simple picture of the model you believe in, Michael? Answer- no. There IS no model.

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#648544

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-03 19:16 -0700
Message-ID<a51804f7-8dbe-4305-a569-c811a7f1723c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648543
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 12:00:08 PM UTC+10, john wrote:
> MM
> "- show quoted text -
> Waitaminute, John. You go on and on about fractal matter, and antimatter 
> first being another 'level' and then the stuff in alternating galaxy arms, 
> and then go on about precessing galaxies and your 'suck' gravity, 
> but you complain about *others* babbling??? 
> 
> Don't you think that is rather hypocritical? 
> "
> 
> Michael- for someone who seems to hate the idea of rotating preceding thingies, you sure live on a rotating precessing Earth which is orbiting a rotating star which is orbiting in a spinning galaxy

so far so good, 

> whose Center is a spinning BH, don't you?

Why is the centre of the galaxy a spinning Black Hole and why is this not pure
babbling of media-driven dogma?

> Does nothing spin in your atomic model? Oh, right, they USE the word 'spin', but it doesn't MEAN spin. Can you DRAW your model, Michael? (I know it isn't actually YOURS, as in you've never come up with anything of your own).
> Can you draw a simple picture of the model you believe in, Michael? Answer- no. There IS no model.

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#648547

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-03 19:35 -0700
Message-ID<2d1d6326-d97b-4187-ba1e-c4750c8a9dad@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648544
Ari
"
> whose Center is a spinning BH, don't you? 

Why is the centre of the galaxy a spinning Black Hole and why is this not pure 
babbling of media-driven dogma? 
- show quoted text -"

They call it a BH, so so do I.
There is ZERO matter of our kind in there- nothing but spinning EVERYTHING SMALLER, which spins to fast for our matter to join, so instead it is shot away as jets.

Nothing has EVER gravitationally collapsed into a BH. The BH comes FIRST and CREATES stars and Matter. The number of things these scientists ( like Odd says he's not ) have got exactly backwards because they have been talked out of common sense by QM is hilarious

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#648551

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-03 19:44 -0700
Message-ID<3f485506-f04d-4bff-90f6-62031c86a2f4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648547
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 12:35:29 PM UTC+10, john wrote:
> Ari
> "
> > whose Center is a spinning BH, don't you? 
> 
> Why is the centre of the galaxy a spinning Black Hole and why is this not pure 
> babbling of media-driven dogma? 
> - show quoted text -"
> 
> They call it a BH, so so do I.

So if they are liars you too will be one. No trace of any science here.

> There is ZERO matter of our kind in there- nothing but spinning EVERYTHING SMALLER, which spins to fast for our matter to join, so instead it is shot away as jets.

Why should anyone take this babbling seriously? No trace of any science here.

> Nothing has EVER gravitationally collapsed into a BH. 

Why should one think there is a black hole anywhere?
Any more than ogres, fairies, unicorns, goblins, etc.?


>The BH comes FIRST and CREATES stars and Matter. 


So Jehovah is called BH these days?  This is a labelling and not a scientific
process.

>The number of things these scientists ( like Odd says he's not ) have got exactly backwards because they have been talked out of common sense by QM is hilarious

You are all a bunch of mutants made so by the e=mcc virus.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#648572

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-09-04 06:36 +0000
Message-ID<oois9j$fgu$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#648547
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>There is ZERO matter of our kind in there- nothing but spinning EVERYTHING
>SMALLER, which spins to fast for our matter to join, so instead it is shot
>away as jets.

>Nothing has EVER gravitationally collapsed into a BH. The BH comes FIRST
>andd CREATES stars and Matter. The number of things these scientists ( like
>Odd says he's not ) have got exactly backwards because they have been 
>talked out of common sense by QM is hilarious

Even Arindam says this is all babbling, that should tell you something.
Besides, you never answered the question, why do you call Arindam's
writing babble when you babble just as much, if not more?

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#648591

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-04 05:13 -0700
Message-ID<7e560b1f-3aa8-42e2-be00-613f3e0192aa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648572
MM
If you can't draw a model of your understanding of something that exists in 3D, then your understanding of that thing is poor at best.
Wouldn't you agree, Michael?

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#648596

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-04 13:23 +0000
Message-ID<oojk4n$3c5$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648591
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> MM
> If you can't draw a model of your understanding of something that exists
> in 3D, then your understanding of that thing is poor at best.
> Wouldn't you agree, Michael?
> 

No, John. That's a John-model, not a scientific model. You have a screwy
notion of what a good scientific model is. Pity you never learned this in
middle school. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#648603

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-04 08:52 -0700
Message-ID<c33d6036-6ae2-49d6-9c7e-cc48a1558dac@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648596
Odd
"model
[mod-l]
noun
a standard or example for imitation or comparison.
a representation, generally in miniature, to show the construction or appearance of something."

Lets compare YOUR atomic model to the real thing.
How does your model predict a sphere?
List ONE thing.

No, not the 3 quarks.
No, not the random electron movement.
No, ...wait! That's all there IS in your model!!
No wonder you disparage model making 

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#648632

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-04 14:52 -0500
Message-ID<ookau9$1d96$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648603
On 9/4/17 10:52 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "model
> [mod-l]
> noun
> a standard or example for imitation or comparison.
> a representation, generally in miniature, to show the construction or appearance of something."

That's the definition you like. It's not the only definition of model, 
of course, just the one you like.

Now, what do you think a scientific model is?
Hey, I have an idea, let's look in the dictionary for the definition 
that applies to science.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/model

Son of a gun, quite a bit different than the one you quoted! Fancy that!

Hey, I have an idea for you. Why don't you start posting about how 
there's only one correct definition for the words in a dictionary, and 
if there are multiple meanings, then we should reject the ones other 
than the one you favor.

> 
> Lets compare YOUR atomic model to the real thing.
> How does your model predict a sphere?
> List ONE thing.
> 
> No, not the 3 quarks.
> No, not the random electron movement.
> No, ...wait! That's all there IS in your model!!
> No wonder you disparage model making
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#648660

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-04 14:57 -0700
Message-ID<21f92f06-81e3-4995-991a-e6b4c78d5d42@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648632
Odd
What about the Bohr model?

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#648693

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-05 00:26 +0000
Message-ID<ookqvd$63n$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#648660
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> What about the Bohr model?
> 

You idiot, the Bohr model is not the picture. It's the quantization of the
angular momentum. The equations. 

Oh that's right, when you read you only look at the pictures. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#648673

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-04 16:12 -0700
Message-ID<9727e8d3-50c9-4076-94a8-2c84b35bef6c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#648632
Odd

> 
> Lets compare YOUR atomic model to the real thing. 
> How does your model predict a sphere? 
> List ONE thing. 

Okay, how about this:
You can't draw/picture/model fantasy.
You can't draw picture/model YOUR model.
Therefore your model is fantasy.

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