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  Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2017-08-26 23:02 -0400
    Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Ted <street04108@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 04:22 +0000
      Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 16:09 -0400
        Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Ted <street04108@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 20:36 +0000
      Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-28 14:25 -0700
        Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 18:37 -0400
          Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-28 18:32 -0700
          Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-29 14:56 -0700
    Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-27 16:00 +1000
      Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2017-08-27 02:18 -0400
        Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-27 16:28 +1000
          Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2017-08-27 03:58 -0400
            Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-27 19:26 +1000
              Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 16:13 -0400
        Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Malte Runz <noyouare@notgetting.it> - 2017-08-27 11:31 +0200
    Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 02:13 -0700
    Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> - 2017-08-27 14:17 -0400
      Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> - 2017-08-27 16:35 -0400
        Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2017-08-28 04:20 -0400
    Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2017-08-27 15:03 -0400
      Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2017-08-27 15:43 -0400
        Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Malte Runz <noyouare@notgetting.it> - 2017-08-27 23:40 +0200
          Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2017-08-28 04:13 -0400
            Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Malte Runz <noyouare@notgetting.it> - 2017-08-28 20:47 +0200
              Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-08-28 14:23 -0500
              Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2017-08-28 23:01 -0400
                Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Malte Runz <noyouare@notgetting.it> - 2017-08-29 10:50 +0200
                  Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-08-29 04:03 -0500
                    Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism Malte Runz <noyouare@notgetting.it> - 2017-08-29 11:16 +0200
        Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 16:25 -0400
    Re: Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> - 2017-09-01 20:05 -0400

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#647390 — Scientist Tells Truth - About Atheism

Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
                            ~ Isaac Newton

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#647391

"Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>                            ~ Isaac Newton

Newton was a bona fide psychotic. You can find more convincing examples.
Newton spent most of his time on things like alchemy and astrology. Physics
was just his occasional hobby. Also he was anti-social and had a repulsive
and vindictive personality. (But yes, he was one of the greatest scientists
of all time.)

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#647623

On 8/27/2017 12:22 AM, Ted wrote:
> "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
> 
> Newton was a bona fide psychotic. You can find more convincing examples.
> Newton spent most of his time on things like alchemy and astrology. Physics
> was just his occasional hobby. Also he was anti-social and had a repulsive
> and vindictive personality. (But yes, he was one of the greatest scientists
> of all time.)
> 

Being nuts is essential to getting genius ideas in physics.
Plenty of proof right here on Usenet.

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#647634

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 8/27/2017 12:22 AM, Ted wrote:
>> "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
>>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
>>> Newton was a bona fide psychotic. You can find more convincing examples.
>> Newton spent most of his time on things like alchemy and astrology. Physics
>> was just his occasional hobby. Also he was anti-social and had a repulsive
>> and vindictive personality. (But yes, he was one of the greatest scientists
>> of all time.)
>> 
> Being nuts is essential to getting genius ideas in physics.
> Plenty of proof right here on Usenet.

There are certainly enough nuts here.

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#647653

On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 9:22:50 PM UTC-7, Ted wrote:
> "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
> > Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
> >                            ~ Isaac Newton
> 
> Newton was a bona fide psychotic. You can find more convincing examples.
> Newton spent most of his time on things like alchemy and astrology. Physics
> was just his occasional hobby. Also he was anti-social and had a repulsive
> and vindictive personality. (But yes, he was one of the greatest scientists
> of all time.)


Newton never believed in the Trinity.  That is why he resisted receiving clerical ordination, something expected of someone in his position in those days.  

Double-A

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#647664

On 8/28/2017 5:25 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 9:22:50 PM UTC-7, Ted wrote:
>> "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
>>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
>>
>> Newton was a bona fide psychotic. You can find more convincing examples.
>> Newton spent most of his time on things like alchemy and astrology. Physics
>> was just his occasional hobby. Also he was anti-social and had a repulsive
>> and vindictive personality. (But yes, he was one of the greatest scientists
>> of all time.)
> 
> 
> Newton never believed in the Trinity.  That is why he resisted receiving clerical ordination, something expected of someone in his position in those days.
> 
> Double-A
> 
That is because the Trinity is a mystery sort of like Gravity, don't you 
know?

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#647685

"benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote in message 
news:59a49b1e$0$13159$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com...
> On 8/28/2017 5:25 PM, Double-A wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 9:22:50 PM UTC-7, Ted wrote:
>>> "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
>>>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
>>>
>>> Newton was a bona fide psychotic. You can find more convincing examples.
>>> Newton spent most of his time on things like alchemy and astrology. 
>>> Physics
>>> was just his occasional hobby. Also he was anti-social and had a 
>>> repulsive
>>> and vindictive personality. (But yes, he was one of the greatest 
>>> scientists
>>> of all time.)
>>
>>
>> Newton never believed in the Trinity.  That is why he resisted receiving 
>> clerical ordination, something expected of someone in his position in 
>> those days.
>>
>> Double-A
>>
> That is because the Trinity is a mystery sort of like Gravity, don't you 
> know?
>
For Catholics Trinity refers to "The Dad, the Lad & the Spook"
What's the mystery?

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#647784

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 3:37:21 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> On 8/28/2017 5:25 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 9:22:50 PM UTC-7, Ted wrote:
> >> "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
> >>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
> >>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
> >>
> >> Newton was a bona fide psychotic. You can find more convincing examples.
> >> Newton spent most of his time on things like alchemy and astrology. Physics
> >> was just his occasional hobby. Also he was anti-social and had a repulsive
> >> and vindictive personality. (But yes, he was one of the greatest scientists
> >> of all time.)
> > 
> > 
> > Newton never believed in the Trinity.  That is why he resisted receiving clerical ordination, something expected of someone in his position in those days.
> > 
> > Double-A
> > 
> That is because the Trinity is a mystery sort of like Gravity, don't you 
> know?


But very ironic since Newton was a professor at "Trinity College" at Cambridge.

Double-A

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#647397

On 27/08/2017 1:02 PM, Andrew wrote:
> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>                             ~ Isaac Newton

Newton hadn't thought of the anthropic principle.

Also, he was a man of his time. His views on the subject are not that 
useful now.

Sylvia.

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#647398

"Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:f0f5goF4l9nU1@mid.individual.net...
> Andrew wrote:
>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
> 
> Newton hadn't thought of the anthropic principle.
> 
> Also, he was a man of his time. His views on the 
> subject are not that useful now.

Did he state the truth? Absolutely he did.

> 
> Sylvia.


~Andrew

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#647399

On 27/08/2017 4:18 PM, Andrew wrote:
> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:f0f5goF4l9nU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
>>
>> Newton hadn't thought of the anthropic principle.
>>
>> Also, he was a man of his time. His views on the subject are not that 
>> useful now.
> 
> Did he state the truth? Absolutely he did.
> 

No, in this respect, his analysis was wrong.

Sylvia.

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#647401

"Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:f0f73kF4vc9U1@mid.individual.net...
> Andrew wrote:
>> "Sylvia Else" wrote :   
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
>>>
>>> Newton hadn't thought of the anthropic principle.
>>>
>>> Also, he was a man of his time. His views on the subject are not that 
>>> useful now.
>> 
>> Did he state the truth? Absolutely he did.
> 
> No, in this respect, his analysis was wrong.

But your rationale is psychological rather than scientific. 
In other words you force a conclusion to fit your a priori 
assumptions. Which is not the way of those who want the
truth.

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#647404

On 27/08/2017 5:58 PM, Andrew wrote:
> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:f0f73kF4vc9U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> "Sylvia Else" wrote :
>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>>>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
>>>>
>>>> Newton hadn't thought of the anthropic principle.
>>>>
>>>> Also, he was a man of his time. His views on the subject are not 
>>>> that useful now.
>>>
>>> Did he state the truth? Absolutely he did.
>>
>> No, in this respect, his analysis was wrong.
> 
> But your rationale is psychological rather than scientific. In other 
> words you force a conclusion to fit your a priori assumptions. Which is 
> not the way of those who want the
> truth.

The observed facts are that the Earth is the right distance from the sun 
for life as we know it to exist on Earth.

There are various possibilities.

a) Chance.

b) Life as we know it exists on Earth because it's at the right distance.

c) Earth was set at the right distance by some entity.

None of the above can be positively excluded, and the solution does not 
have to be (c).

Sylvia.

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#647624

On 8/27/2017 5:26 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 27/08/2017 5:58 PM, Andrew wrote:
>> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:f0f73kF4vc9U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>> "Sylvia Else" wrote :
>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>>>>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
>>>>>
>>>>> Newton hadn't thought of the anthropic principle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, he was a man of his time. His views on the subject are not 
>>>>> that useful now.
>>>>
>>>> Did he state the truth? Absolutely he did.
>>>
>>> No, in this respect, his analysis was wrong.
>>
>> But your rationale is psychological rather than scientific. In other 
>> words you force a conclusion to fit your a priori assumptions. Which 
>> is not the way of those who want the
>> truth.
> 
> The observed facts are that the Earth is the right distance from the sun 
> for life as we know it to exist on Earth.
> 
> There are various possibilities.
> 
> a) Chance.
> 
> b) Life as we know it exists on Earth because it's at the right distance.
> 
> c) Earth was set at the right distance by some entity.
> 
> None of the above can be positively excluded, and the solution does not 
> have to be (c).
> 
> Sylvia.
You tell, 'em Sylvia!

Shut down this stooopid atheist troll that is always a sure winner to 
get a big disruption of any real science discussion going.

Killfile the nutjob-disrupters.

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#647405

On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 02:18:21 -0400, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:

>"Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:f0f5goF4l9nU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
>> 
>> Newton hadn't thought of the anthropic principle.
>> 
>> Also, he was a man of his time. His views on the 
>> subject are not that useful now.
>
>Did he state the truth? Absolutely he did.

"[...] This did not happen by chance."

Were all the other planets, billions throughout the Universe, also
placed deliberately in their orbits? You must show that it couldn't
have happened by chance.

-- 
Malte Runz

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#647402

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 1:02:49 PM UTC+10, Andrew wrote:
> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>                             ~ Isaac Newton

How true. 
It is the source of all evil, may I add.
I got the direct taste of atheism in the unbelievably horrid prisons of Cambodia.
The atheists tortured and murdered millions of their own countrymen with no
remorse. In the name of their Marxist-atheist ideology.
Theists going wrong and basically atheists.

Sir Isaac Newton had not seen the prison cellsin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuol_Sleng_Genocide_Museum
but I have.

Theism is man's greatest invention. It has raised man from other animals by
making him more inventive and less arrogant and violent.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#647444

On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 23:02:57 -0400, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:

>Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>                            ~ Isaac Newton

Newton never said that. 

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#647467

On 08/27/17 14:17, raven1 wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 23:02:57 -0400, "Andrew"
> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
> 
>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
> 
> Newton never said that.
> 

The quote at that address is listed as one of the disputed
quotes on wikiquote:

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton#Disputed

There is also an actual quote beginning with the words
"atheism is so senseless" on that page, but the evidence
Newton used to argue for this, a set of widespread
similarities among animals, is explained now by common
descent but would have been inexplicable back then to
somebody who believed the earth was only a few thousand
years old.

-- 
David Canzi | Science is the signal; religion is the noise.

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#647531

"David Canzi" wrote in message news:E7ydnYD_V7FosT7EnZ2dnUU7-I3NnZ2d@giganews.com...
> raven1 wrote:
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>> 
>>> Atheism is so senseless-->  https://tinyurl.com/y6wv9wej
>>>                             ~ Isaac Newton
>> 
>> Newton never said that.
> 
> The quote at that address is listed as one of the disputed
> quotes on wikiquote:
> 
> https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton#Disputed
> 
> There is also an actual quote beginning with the words
> "atheism is so senseless" on that page, but the evidence
> Newton used to argue for this, a set of widespread
> similarities among animals, 

The rest of this statement would more likely have 
originated as a summation of his observations as 
noted here........  https://tinyurl.com/yadn7q8o

An Account of Sir Isaac Newton's Philosophical Discoveries 
                     (1750), Book III, Ch. 5

> is explained now by common descent but would have been 
> inexplicable back then to somebody who believed the earth 
> was only a few thousand years old.
> 
> -- 
> David Canzi | Science is the signal; religion is the noise.

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#647454

Sorry Isaac, but it was just all chance.

Grow up.

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