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For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not.

Started byOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
First post2017-08-18 14:54 -0500
Last post2017-08-26 01:53 +0000
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  For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 14:54 -0500
    Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:01 -0700
      Re: Black Holes violate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-18 20:26 -0500
        Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 23:07 -0700
          Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 03:26 -0400
            Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 06:05 -0700
            Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-21 09:26 -0500
              Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-21 09:34 -0500
          Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 08:18 -0500
            Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 06:53 -0700
              Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 15:50 -0500
                Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 14:50 -0700
                  Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-21 15:39 -0700
                Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 15:50 -0700
                  Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 15:59 -0700
                  Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 23:42 +0000
                    Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 17:16 -0700
                      Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 18:04 -0700
                        Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-22 02:24 +0000
                      Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 01:18 +0000
                        Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 19:09 -0700
                          Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-22 02:39 +0000
                            Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 20:00 -0700
                              Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 20:40 -0700
                                Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 20:49 -0700
                                  Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-22 13:49 +0000
                                    Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 14:58 -0700
                                      Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 23:35 +0000
                                        Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 17:06 -0700
                                          Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-23 00:43 +0000
                                            Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 18:03 -0700
                                          Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 01:34 +0000
                                            Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 19:32 -0700
                                              Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 19:50 -0700
                                              Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 09:02 -0500
                                                Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 13:20 -0700
                                                  Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 16:38 -0500
                                              Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 13:46 -0700
                                                Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 13:54 -0700
                                                  Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 14:38 -0700
                                                    Thermodynamics, and its flipside ( gravity ), define everything. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 15:32 -0700
                                                      Thermodynamics, and its flipside ( gravity ), define everything. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 15:54 -0700
                                                        Re: Thermodynamics, and its flipside ( gravity ), define everything. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 10:24 -0500
                                                          Re: Thermodynamics, and its flipside ( gravity ), define everything. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 09:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Thermodynamics, and its flipside ( gravity ), define everything. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-24 17:09 +0000
                                                            Re: Thermodynamics, and its flipside ( gravity ), define everything. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 12:14 -0500
                                                              Re: Thermodynamics, and its flipside ( gravity ), define everything. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 11:41 -0700
                                                                Re: Thermodynamics, and its flipside ( gravity ), define everything. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 15:05 -0700
                                                                  Re: Thermodynamics, and its flipside ( gravity ), define everything. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 22:10 +0000
                                                                Re: Thermodynamics, and its flipside ( gravity ), define everything. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 22:07 +0000
                                                                  Re: Thermodynamics, and its flipside ( gravity ), define everything. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 08:31 -0700
                                                  Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 16:39 -0500
                                Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-22 13:47 +0000
                              Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-22 13:53 +0000
                                Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 07:51 -0700
                                  Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-22 15:35 +0000
                          Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 08:25 -0500
                        Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-22 17:58 -0400
                    Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 21:05 -0400
                      Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 01:18 +0000
                        Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-22 18:00 -0400
                          Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 23:35 +0000
              Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 02:34 -0700
                Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 13:51 -0700
        Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 23:15 -0700
          Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 23:22 -0700
          Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 11:16 +0000
            Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. NobelPrize.ORG  @. - 2017-08-19 07:45 -0700
              Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 08:32 -0700
                Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-19 17:46 +0000
                  Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-19 14:08 -0500
                    Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 17:20 -0700
                      Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 00:34 +0000
                        Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 00:36 +0000
                      Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-20 01:33 +0000
                        Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-19 21:04 -0700
                        Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 10:07 -0700
                          Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 10:57 -0700
                            Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-20 11:17 -0700
                            Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-20 11:19 -0700
                          Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 11:00 -0700
                            Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-20 18:29 +0000
                          Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-20 18:26 +0000
                            Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 11:58 -0700
                              Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-21 16:39 +0000
                                Black Holes are math kook babble john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 11:46 -0700
                                  Re: Retarded precessing spinny things are kook babble moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-21 20:07 +0000
                            Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 15:09 -0500
                              Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 14:13 -0700
                        Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-20 18:07 -0500
                          Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 16:31 -0700
                            Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-21 08:33 -0500
                              Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 07:00 -0700
              Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-08-19 12:45 -0400
                Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-08-21 07:04 -0500
        Re: Black Holes violate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-21 18:00 -0500
          Re: More data, from more observers, is needed. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-23 10:41 -0500
            Re: We can't see Sgr A* PROPER, directly. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 11:55 -0700
              Re: We can't see Sgr A* PROPER, directly. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-24 00:03 -0700
            Re: We can't see Sgr A* PROPER, directly. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-23 21:26 +0000
              Re: We can't see Sgr A* PROPER, directly. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 14:32 -0700
                Re: We can't see Sgr A* PROPER, directly. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 16:48 -0500
                Re: We can't see Sgr A* PROPER, directly. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-23 22:12 +0000
              Re: We can't see Sgr A* PROPER, directly. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 16:46 -0500
              Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-23 23:01 +0000
                Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-08-24 10:14 +0100
                  Re: A TRUE singularity has infinite precision, not +/- 45 AU. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-24 17:04 +0000
                    Re: There is no evidence that TRUE black holes exist, none. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-24 15:40 -0700
                      Re: There is no evidence that TRUE black holes exist, none. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-25 20:04 +0200
                      Re: Slowing lased photons to near ZERO meters/second. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-25 20:05 +0200
                        Re: Starting/Stopping light. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-25 21:45 +0200
                          Posting an email address to Usenet is just wrong. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-08-25 17:55 -0700
                            Re: Posting an email address to Usenet is just wrong. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-26 03:23 +0200
                              Give it your best shot, Thomas Lahn. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-08-25 19:08 -0700
                                Re: Give it your best shot, ****** ****. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-26 14:15 +0200
                                  Thomas Lahn would ban URL's. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-08-26 13:36 -0700
                                    Re: ****** **** would ban URL's. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-27 01:46 +0200
                                    Re: Thomas Lahn's GoogleGroups Spam Remover. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-08-28 15:55 -0700
                                      Google Groups spam filter (was: Thomas Lahn's GoogleGroups Spam Remover.) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-31 18:04 +0200
                          If this Wikipedia article is wrong, please fix it. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-08-25 18:39 -0700
                            Slow light (was: If this Wikipedia article is wrong, please fix it.) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-26 03:55 +0200
                              Viewed from earth, everything near an ideal event horizon appears frozen. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-08-25 19:47 -0700
                            Re: If this Wikipedia article is wrong, please fix it. benj <nobody@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-26 01:52 -0400
                          Re: kNode hasn't heard of MIME/HTML ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-26 03:47 +0200
                            The DEFAULT "Subject:" line is NEITHER mandatory or desirable. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-08-25 19:29 -0700
                              Re: The DEFAULT "Subject:" line is NEITHER mandatory or desirable. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-26 15:36 +0000
                                Usenet isn't Wikipedia; threads branch and morph, topics change. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-08-26 11:56 -0700
                                  Re: Usenet isn't Wikipedia; threads branch and morph, topics change. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-27 04:31 +0000
                    Re: There is no evidence that TRUE black holes exist, none. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-25 12:28 -0700
                      Re: There is no evidence that TRUE black holes exist, none. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 12:44 -0700
                  Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-25 14:34 +0200
                    Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 06:22 -0700
                      Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-25 16:14 +0200
                      Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 07:18 -0700
                        Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 07:49 -0700
                        Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-25 18:25 +0200
                        Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 10:44 -0700
                        Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 13:05 -0500
                      Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-25 16:09 +0000
                    Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-25 15:37 +0000
                      Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 08:51 -0700
                        Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 13:01 -0500
                      Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-25 19:22 +0200
                        Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-25 18:48 +0000
                          Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 12:22 -0700
                          Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 12:25 -0700
                          Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-25 21:27 +0200
                            Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-25 21:54 +0000
                              Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-26 03:01 +0200
                                Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-26 03:31 +0000
                    Re: Sgr* isn't even a "black hole", much less a PRECISELY known singularity. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-25 21:52 +0200
        Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2017-09-04 14:34 -0400
          Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts. Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-05 11:40 +0000
          Re: "Black Holes" are forever a notion, never measured. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 14:04 +0000
      Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-19 00:00 -0700
        Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 08:18 -0500
      Re: Black Holes violate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-20 16:01 -0700
      Re: Black Holes violate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-08-21 12:54 -0700
    For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 14:44 -0700
      Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 22:15 +0000
    Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 15:26 -0700
      Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-18 18:54 -0700
    Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 21:06 -0500
    Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 10:25 -0700
      Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-25 10:55 -0700
      Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-25 14:17 -0700
        Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-25 15:27 -0700
          Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-25 15:37 -0700
            Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-25 15:50 -0700
    For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 16:29 -0700
      For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 17:03 -0700
        Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 01:53 +0000
      Re: For Sefton, on whether gravity is ever infinite or not. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 01:53 +0000

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#646871 — Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-08-22 18:00 -0400
SubjectRe: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.
Message-ID<599ca99d$0$34679$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#646803
On 8/21/2017 9:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> benj <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 08/21/2017 07:42 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Odd
>>>> "
>>>> makes that energy available to do other things.
>>>>
>>>> It is still the case that you can get energy be manipulating the
>>>> proximity of objects. This is what potential energy is all about. It is
>>>> location-based energy.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> Let's call each level a field.
>>>
>>> Let's not. You're using a perfectly good physics term for some meaning
>>> private to you, and you have no idea what the physics term "field" means.
>>>
>>> Just begging for talking past each other. You might as well walk into a
>>> store in Paris and say, "I'm going to speak Mandarin, OK?"
>>
>> Works for Odd. He always just defines words using his own fantasies and
>> wonders why everybody thinks he's an iudiot!
>>
>>
> 
> I follow the definitions that physicists have agreed upon. This is the
> jargon of physics. It is not mine. Nor is it identical to ordinary
> colloquial language you find in a dictionary. It has to be learned. Don't
> want to? Fine, get left behind. Enjoy the memories of the century gone by,
> and sit on your front porch yelling, "You damn kids get off my lawn!"
> 
So you and the physicists that you "like" (not all of them are wandering 
fantasy land with you) have generated your own land of lollipops and 
magic and the fact that you've all agreed between you means it's all 
true, right? This is not science. That is journalism.

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#646880 — Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-22 23:35 +0000
SubjectRe: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.
Message-ID<onif40$1jav$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#646871
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 8/21/2017 9:18 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> benj <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 08/21/2017 07:42 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Odd
>>>>> "
>>>>> makes that energy available to do other things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is still the case that you can get energy be manipulating the
>>>>> proximity of objects. This is what potential energy is all about. It is
>>>>> location-based energy.
>>>>> "
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let's call each level a field.
>>>> 
>>>> Let's not. You're using a perfectly good physics term for some meaning
>>>> private to you, and you have no idea what the physics term "field" means.
>>>> 
>>>> Just begging for talking past each other. You might as well walk into a
>>>> store in Paris and say, "I'm going to speak Mandarin, OK?"
>>> 
>>> Works for Odd. He always just defines words using his own fantasies and
>>> wonders why everybody thinks he's an iudiot!
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I follow the definitions that physicists have agreed upon. This is the
>> jargon of physics. It is not mine. Nor is it identical to ordinary
>> colloquial language you find in a dictionary. It has to be learned. Don't
>> want to? Fine, get left behind. Enjoy the memories of the century gone by,
>> and sit on your front porch yelling, "You damn kids get off my lawn!"
>> 
> So you and the physicists that you "like" (not all of them are wandering 
> fantasy land with you) have generated your own land of lollipops and 
> magic and the fact that you've all agreed between you means it's all 
> true, right? This is not science. That is journalism.
> 

No, it is jargon.  Jargon IS one of those things determined by consensus,
just like the definitions of words in colloquial usage. (Yes, that is a
majority vote thing.) Don't like it? Don't want "cool" to mean anything
other than a temperature or a mood? Tough. Language is set by the community
that uses it, by consensus. 

You want to piss upwind about it? Up to you. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#646915 — Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-23 02:34 -0700
SubjectRe: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.
Message-ID<5b73f5b2-cdf8-4f35-a38b-87ac7f0a32b7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646719
On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 11:53:36 PM UTC+10, john wrote:
> Odd
> "Energy can't be produced by manipulating proximity of objects. 
> 
> By making sure that water gets more proximal to the center of the earth 
> through a directed channel, hydroelectric dams have been generating lots 
> of electricity for Las Vegas and cities like that for some time now, John. "
> 
> Mm hmmm.
> The energy OF THE SUN is used and brings the water to where a dam can redirect it.

Yes, and the energy from the Sun is everlasting.
The magnetic field interacts with the plasma to move matter, which hit each
other to create radiation.
Endlessly.
That energy is destroyed as it goes further and further into the universe
When intercepted, as by Earth, it is used to do plenty of things such as
raising water up into the air.
All beautiful, wonderful, everlasting... part of the infinite and unending 
chain of material existence.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#646972 — Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-23 13:51 -0700
SubjectRe: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.
Message-ID<a6675797-820f-4e0a-b29e-2e8fcb35a413@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646915
On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:35:02 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 11:53:36 PM UTC+10, john wrote:
> > Odd
> > "Energy can't be produced by manipulating proximity of objects. 
> > 
> > By making sure that water gets more proximal to the center of the earth 
> > through a directed channel, hydroelectric dams have been generating lots 
> > of electricity for Las Vegas and cities like that for some time now, John. "
> > 
> > Mm hmmm.
> > The energy OF THE SUN is used and brings the water to where a dam can redirect it.
> 
> Yes, and the energy from the Sun is everlasting.

Long lasting? yes.
Ever lasting? no.
 
> The magnetic field interacts with the plasma to move matter, which hit each
> other to create radiation.
> Endlessly.

You really don't know stellar life cycles at all.
The sun does not last forever.

> That energy is destroyed as it goes further and further into the universe

Wow, what real misconceptions you have!

> When intercepted, as by Earth, it is used to do plenty of things such as
> raising water up into the air.

Hey you got this right.

> All beautiful, wonderful, everlasting... part of the infinite and unending 
> chain of material existence.
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee


Well we can agree that the universe is a wonderful place to be.
  Ed

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#646492 — Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-18 23:15 -0700
SubjectTake your own advice, Tom Roberts.
Message-ID<3da82284-f530-497c-ad40-a2134365c8cd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646480
Jeff

You ( Tom Roberts ) replied:
> > There's ZERO evidence that a true black hole exists;
> 
> Not true. There is considerable evidence that supermassive black holes
> lie near the center of most galaxies.

A very dense objects, yes.
TRUE black holes, no.

Black Holes violate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.
"
There's no object there, at all.
That's spinning aether; the next lower Matter field.
It goes too fast for charged Matter to survive in it, because the charges blow away from each other when you spin them that fast. It's black because light actually gets trapped.

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#646493 — Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-18 23:22 -0700
SubjectTake your own advice, Tom Roberts.
Message-ID<5a2b1ce1-ecde-4581-8cc7-826a666deffc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646492
Jeff
Jeff 

You ( Tom Roberts ) replied: 
> > There's ZERO evidence that a true black hole exists; 
> 
> Not true. There is considerable evidence that supermassive black holes 
> lie near the center of most galaxies. 

A very dense objects, yes. 
TRUE black holes, no. 

Black Holes violate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. 
" 
There's no object there, at all. 
That's spinning aether; the next lower Matter field. 
It goes too fast for charged Matter to survive in it, because the charges blow away from each other when you spin them that fast. It's black because light actually gets trapped. 
A thought here;
Light may actually power Black Holes.

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#646510 — Re: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-19 11:16 +0000
SubjectRe: Take your own advice, Tom Roberts.
Message-ID<on96m0$1hjp$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#646492
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jeff
> 
> You ( Tom Roberts ) replied:
>>> There's ZERO evidence that a true black hole exists;
>> 
>> Not true. There is considerable evidence that supermassive black holes
>> lie near the center of most galaxies.
> 
> A very dense objects, yes.

Very dense objects that do not shine. 

> TRUE black holes, no.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. How are you distinguishing a "true"
black hole from something that looks and behaves like a black hole? 

Or are you saying that you believe in things that behave just like black
holes but want to believe they are something else instead?

> 
> Black Holes violate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.

What? Try to explain that. 

> "
> There's no object there, at all.
> That's spinning aether; the next lower Matter field.
> It goes too fast for charged Matter to survive in it, because the charges
> blow away from each other when you spin them that fast. It's black
> because light actually gets trapped.

That last sentence is what "black hole" means, John. 

> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#646517 — Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

FromNobelPrize.ORG @.
Date2017-08-19 07:45 -0700
SubjectOdd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<NobelPrize.ORG@Aug.19--7.45am.Seattle.2017>
In reply to#646510
You ( Odd Bodkin ) replied:
> > Very dense objects, yes.
> > TRUE black holes, no.
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean by this. How are you distinguishing a "true"
> black hole from something that looks and behaves like a black hole? 

Google "SemiClassical Black Star".

> Or are you saying that you believe in things that behave  just like
> black holes but want to believe they are something else instead?

"Somewhat like", not "just like".
Stephen Hawking has been saying it since 2004, 13 years ago,
long after you stopped learning about it ( due to dementia, I assume ).

> > Black Holes violate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.
> 
> What? Try to explain that. 

Quantum events are statistical, not mechanical;
so: There's ZERO evidence that a true black hole exists.

If you have REAL DATA to the contrary, 
you get the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

Quantum Correlations are acausal, like a series of dice tosses.
The Correlations say nothing about the next roll of the dice,
but they _can_ tell you that, in 100 tosses,
2 ( snake eyes ) happens less often than 7 ( 3 + 4, 1 + 6, etc. ).

Intrinsically, each toss is fully causal, not random.
SemiRandomness is SemiIgnorance, nothing more.

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#646519 — Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-19 08:32 -0700
SubjectOdd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<b3ee9d11-ab9e-4bbf-ad25-9b6ef4cab182@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646517
Light may power black Holes.

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#646535 — Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-19 17:46 +0000
SubjectRe: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<on9tia$565$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#646519
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Light may power black Holes.

Babbling nonsense. What is there to power?

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#646543 — Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

FromSerg io <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-08-19 14:08 -0500
SubjectRe: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<ona2c0$u82$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#646535
On 8/19/2017 12:46 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Light may power black Holes.
> 
> Babbling nonsense. What is there to power?
> 




All electrical sockets have two or three little black holes in them.

       That is where the plug goes.

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#646569 — Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-19 17:20 -0700
SubjectRe: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<71e2547e-80ae-4bdb-ad67-13ab2309568e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646543
A BH is a vortex in the aether.
A photon is a wave of energy in the aether.
Photon goes into BH and doesn't come out.
BH increases in energy

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#646570 — Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-20 00:34 +0000
SubjectRe: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<onalfb$1rcd$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#646569
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> A BH is a vortex in the aether.
> A photon is a wave of energy in the aether.
> Photon goes into BH and doesn't come out.
> BH increases in energy
> 

How is this experimentally distinguishable from general relativity?
Remember the criteria of scientific thinking? 
What is the minimum mass of a black hole by your idea? Remember the
criteria of scientific thinking?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#646571 — Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-20 00:36 +0000
SubjectRe: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<onalhi$1rf4$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#646570
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>> A BH is a vortex in the aether.
>> A photon is a wave of energy in the aether.
>> Photon goes into BH and doesn't come out.
>> BH increases in energy
>> 
> 
> How is this experimentally distinguishable from general relativity?
> Remember the criteria of scientific thinking? 
> What is the minimum mass of a black hole by your idea? Remember the
> criteria of scientific thinking?
> 

Or maybe you'll reply, screw that, I'm only interested in the idle
speculation. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#646576 — Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-20 01:33 +0000
SubjectRe: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<onaot7$cru$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#646569
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>A BH is a vortex in the aether.

Kook Babble. There is no aether.

>A photon is a wave of energy in the aether.

More kook babble.

>Photon goes into BH and doesn't come out.

Wow, you actually got something correct for once!!

>BH increases in energy

Once inside the black hole we cannot distinguish what's in there, all
we detect is the mass.  More accurate to say the BH increases in mass.
(remember, E=mc^2, where E is the energy added by the photon E=hf)

Regardless, this doesn't answer my question, what do you mean "powering"
a black hole? Do you mean feeding it to make it larger?

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#646584 — Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

Fromporaty350@gmail.com
Date2017-08-19 21:04 -0700
SubjectRe: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<05cfe975-06a2-4c38-96bd-bd09f9d59df7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646576
On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 4:33:30 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >A BH is a vortex in the aether.
> 
> Kook Babble. There is no aether.
> 
> >A photon is a wave of energy in the aether.
> 
> More kook babble.
> 
> >Photon goes into BH and doesn't come out.
> 
> Wow, you actually got something correct for once!!
> 
> >BH increases in energy
> 
> Once inside the black hole we cannot distinguish what's in there, all
> we detect is the mass.  More accurate to say the BH increases in mass.
> (remember, E=mc^2, where E is the energy added by the photon E=hf)
> 
> Regardless, this doesn't answer my question, what do you mean "powering"
> a black hole? Do you mean feeding it to make it larger?
========================
just remember that 
E=hf  HAS   MASS THE ONLY MASS !!!!
===
ATB
Y.Porat
================================


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#646625 — Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-20 10:07 -0700
SubjectRe: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<51ec36bd-be1c-4e22-b395-749e0c32094f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646576
MM
" question, what do you mean "powering" 
a black hole? Do you mean feeding it to make it larger? "

There is NO MATTER inside the BH.
It is SPINNING 'SPACETIME'.
No charges can remain together in the extreme spin, and they are blown out as jets.

But what maintains the spin? Radiation.

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#646627 — Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-20 10:57 -0700
SubjectRe: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<9af6c89b-3159-47de-a8d3-fddc460c11c2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#646625
On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 10:07:17 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> MM
> " question, what do you mean "powering" 
> a black hole? Do you mean feeding it to make it larger? "
> 
> There is NO MATTER inside the BH.
> It is SPINNING 'SPACETIME'.
> No charges can remain together in the extreme spin, and they are blown out as jets.
> 
> But what maintains the spin? Radiation.

A BH reaches its critical mass density when there is no space between the neutron and proton.The electron also is not a cloud anymore.The cloud is now a 
point Also time and space are one.(merged) The BH now implodes into a singularity.Do not go to Google to find all of this.Its from the thinking of Treb and I.In reality Treb is 285 years ahead of Earth time.Get the picture.TreBert

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#646631 — Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-08-20 11:17 -0700
SubjectRe: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<oncjh0$el$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#646627
Get the picture.TreBert

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#646632 — Re: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-08-20 11:19 -0700
SubjectRe: Odd Bodkin gets the Nobel prize, along with Bert.
Message-ID<oncjkc$qd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#646627
"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
"Get the picture" that SwineBert loves to be reminded 
that Glazier is what it said in the following links about:
>
>
_____  Glazier, the Turd-man of Anaheim ________
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>,
<http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier-s-Undertaker>
<http://tinyurl.com/Jew-Swine-Glazier-cries>
<http://tinyurl.com/SwineBert-s-WRONG-Predictions>
<http://tinyurl.com/Herbert-Glazier-s-Reprieve>
<http://tinyurl.com/Loudmouth-Glazier-8Feb2017>,
<http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal>.
<http://tinyurl.com/Blog-of-2-fecal-kikes-Mar2017>



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