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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-08-08 14:18 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-08-14 19:23 -0700 |
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I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:18 -0700
I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:23 -0700
Re: I figured out charge zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-08 14:44 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 15:58 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:03 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:34 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-08 23:34 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:54 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 08:05 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-08 23:28 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:44 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:47 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 17:05 -0700
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-08 21:51 -0400
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:05 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:50 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 03:53 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-09 02:33 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:02 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 03:47 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 20:51 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 18:42 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:47 -0500
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-09 17:44 -0400
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 15:23 -0700
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-09 20:44 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 16:15 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 08:27 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 10:52 -0700
Re: I figured out charge zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-09 16:02 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 13:53 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 14:55 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:58 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:06 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 17:11 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:40 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 20:28 -0400
Re: I figured out charge pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 21:48 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-11 12:59 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 18:36 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 19:36 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:06 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 06:14 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:40 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 07:21 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 07:21 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:21 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 17:54 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 12:15 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 14:44 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 05:41 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 06:49 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 08:28 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 10:43 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 08:59 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:26 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 13:52 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 20:59 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:23 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 00:12 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 18:34 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 05:11 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 08:21 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 02:21 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 19:46 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 03:05 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 03:15 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 04:49 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 14:05 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 07:20 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 16:35 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 09:47 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 19:55 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 16:40 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 18:24 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 13:21 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 06:34 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:00 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 17:39 +0000
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 18:12 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:02 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:07 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 19:45 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 22:18 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 22:28 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 05:49 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 06:10 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:51 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 16:13 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 16:09 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 10:05 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 13:38 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 12:51 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 18:26 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 18:24 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 01:46 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:08 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 02:28 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:39 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 03:22 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 04:51 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:39 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 06:00 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 13:22 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 09:01 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:06 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 09:18 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:28 +0000
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:39 -0400
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 07:51 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:02 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:32 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:57 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:02 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:05 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:10 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:30 -0700
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:30 -0400
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:18 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 08:32 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:03 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:34 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:58 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 16:00 -0500
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:27 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:13 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:36 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:01 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:05 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:17 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:21 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:32 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 20:27 +0000
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 18:18 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 17:14 -0500
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 19:21 -0400
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 05:54 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:59 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 06:25 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:33 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:49 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:25 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:15 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:56 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:55 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 12:54 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:37 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 21:09 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 21:10 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:19 -0700
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:50 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:13 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:20 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:26 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 20:10 +0000
At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:13 -0700
Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:23 -0500
Better Servers. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-08-17 10:34 -0700
Better Servers. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:05 -0700
Re: Better Servers. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 17:11 -0500
Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 19:54 +0000
Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 19:58 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:56 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:41 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 08:57 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:16 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:45 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 16:05 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 11:01 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:36 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 04:27 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 05:20 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 13:34 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 06:42 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:02 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:45 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:21 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 17:48 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:42 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 19:31 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 23:45 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 08:42 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:55 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:35 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:39 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:10 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:47 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:28 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:28 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 15:23 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:06 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 00:12 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:01 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 02:27 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 19:59 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 20:22 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:11 +0000
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 11:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on4hu0$ctv$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646303 |
On 8/17/17 11:32 AM, john wrote: > Odd > " > Nobody has told you that jets with enough material to form quasars pop > out from inside the event horizon. All of that pops out from OUTSIDE the > event horizon. What they have told you is that nothing comes out from > INSIDE the event horizon. Don't distort what they tell you. > " > Prove it. Rank unproven assertion Prove WHAT? That the jets don't come from inside the event horizon? The EVIDENCE shows that. All matter, all radiation, from anywhere near a black hole is ONLY seen coming from outside the event horizon. And THAT is what the model says as well. Now, what you are proposing is that DESPITE evidence to the contrary, the jets are REALLY coming from inside the event horizon, and then you are using this supposition to claim that this proves that the claim that nothing comes out from the event horizon is bogus. In other words, you are INVENTING a false fact to try to show that the idea of black holes is wrong. Which is bullshit of the highest order, John. > >> >> Best comedy EVER! >> Keep it up, Odd- you provide lots of laughs Believe me, John, you may be laughing, but we're laughing too. >> (Sergio, ed, and MM, too) > Great comedy > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 10:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1601fa13-f506-4229-96ab-1e8e248cc8eb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646308 |
Odd "black hole is ONLY seen coming from outside the event horizon. And THAT" By your own definition, you can't see inside the horizon. Circular reasoning. Besides, your "view" is 90% conjecture. New telescopes are coming. Practise your backpedalling.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 12:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on4ida$e0l$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646311 |
On 8/17/17 12:02 PM, john wrote: > Odd > "black hole is ONLY seen coming from outside the event horizon. And THAT" > > By your own definition, you can't see inside the horizon. That's right. You cannot see inside the horizon. NO information comes out from the horizon, no matter, no light, no anything. > Circular reasoning. > Besides, your "view" is 90% conjecture. No, it's really more solid than that, John. I have no idea how you're trying to quantify conjecture, but that number is straight out your ass and you know it. > New telescopes are coming. > Practise your backpedalling. > And do these new telescopes allow one to see the future, like what you're claiming? How long should we give you to prove yourself right? How long shall we give these new telescopes to provide the evidence that black holes do not exist? I'm looking for a table bet, John, with stakes. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 10:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <08d866d5-d78a-4d53-a890-d0c15998e10d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646303 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 12:33:01 PM UTC-4, john wrote: > Odd > " > Nobody has told you that jets with enough material to form quasars pop > out from inside the event horizon. All of that pops out from OUTSIDE the > event horizon. What they have told you is that nothing comes out from > INSIDE the event horizon. Don't distort what they tell you. > " > Prove it. Rank unproven assertion It is YOUR assertion that is unproven. you on the other hand are getting boring again. ed ed ed
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 11:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0e361327-b73d-4d0f-aff5-ac82056dcbc0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646285 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 10:52:05 AM UTC-4, john wrote: > Odd > "- show quoted text - > People who have unsupported beliefs sometimes have a difficult time > acknowledging that they cannot actually account for why they believe > these things. Because of this discomfort, they'll sometimes try to > " > Tell you that everything started from a 'BigBang' > Tell you that somehow stars occurred from this > Tell you that the stars clumped together from Gravity to form > galaxies but somehow stopped clumping and new stars are forming-somehow > Tell you they have everything figured out but when their suck > Gravity is shown to be wrong it's because of invisible "different" matter > Tell you > Tell you tell you > Tell you nothing comes out of BHs, then when HUGE jets with enough > material to form Quasars pop out Tell you it's just 'splash' "Nothing > comes out of BHs unless it 'splashes'" John's Limit! I, Mahipal, still love it It IT! > Best comedy EVER! > Keep it up, Odd- you provide lots of laughs > (Sergio, ed, and MM, too) > ROTFL every day hearing you guys > Hahahaha As of late, SergioJi/EdJi are getting enticed by The Dark Side... MM and Odd both truly are nuts! MM a little less so. The two have nothing to do but stalk you JohnJi! 0! MM or Odd never start a physics topic of their own. Never. Simply? If you know what the correct Physics is, start your own damned threads! Let's see, there's Dark Matter, Dark Energy, M-Branes, Parallel Universes, String Theory, Quarks, ... yet MM and Odd have issues with spiny fractals?! When do I get to say or shout or scream or write: Hello?! HELLO?! -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!” Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 17:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <59960afa$0$44627$c3e8da3$76a7c58f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #646280 |
On 8/17/2017 10:01 AM, Serg io wrote: > On 8/17/2017 8:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Odd >>> Logic is necessary for science. >>> You don't seem to have any. >>> >> >> We've talked about this before. What you think is logic only means >> consistency with your unsupported beliefs. That is not logic and you do >> logic a disservice by talking that way. >> >> Science is about agreement between models and data. Period, end of story. >> Scientists aren't really going to care that you want it to be consistent >> with your beliefs. >> > > that sums it up nicely. Those are Odd's rules for other people, not himself. For himself science is all about beliefs, majority vote among scientists and establishment imprimatur.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 15:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on4c4q$2ku$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #646278 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >Logic is necessary for science. Why yes, John, very true. Which is why your retarded precessing spinny things and fractal universe ideas would get the boot immediately. This is what Odd and I have been trying to tell you. Your ideas are far too illogical to be considered, ever. They are so illogical that not even you can give us reasons why you believe them!
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 08:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <45fdc4cd-5545-47f5-89fd-d6ede49d8518@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646288 |
MM "far too illogical to be considered, ever. They are so illogical that not even you can give us reasons why you believe them! " Odd doesn't do logic- obviously- he believes in things with no structure or volume that exist, somehow, and are distinct from other things with no structure or volume, somehow. So do you. Trying to talk logically with you and him is like trying to explain color to the colourblind. But you two are good foils. Thank you. (Foils, not fools- fools are smarter.)
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 11:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on4eoo$6rc$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646291 |
On 8/17/17 10:32 AM, john wrote: > MM > "far too illogical to be considered, ever. They are so illogical that not > even you can give us reasons why you believe them! " > > Odd doesn't do logic- obviously- he believes in things with no structure or volume that exist, somehow, and are distinct from other things with no structure or volume, somehow. And what, John, is illogical about that? Please when you answer this be careful not to insert beliefs that you have that you cannot justify. > So do you. > > Trying to talk logically with you and him is like trying to explain color to the colourblind. > > But you two are good foils. Thank you. (Foils, not fools- fools are smarter.) > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 09:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <aa75b58c-4e20-4b20-9abc-ac975bf03f23@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646297 |
On 8/17/17 10:32 AM, john wrote: > MM > "far too illogical to be considered, ever. They are so illogical that not > even you can give us reasons why you believe them! " > > Odd doesn't do logic- obviously- he believes in things with no structure or volume that exist, somehow, and are distinct from other things with no structure or volume, somehow. And what, John, is illogical about that? Please when you answer this b" You're a hoot, Odd
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 11:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on4i01$ctv$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646304 |
On 8/17/17 11:34 AM, john wrote: > On 8/17/17 10:32 AM, john wrote: >> MM >> "far too illogical to be considered, ever. They are so illogical that not >> even you can give us reasons why you believe them! " >> >> Odd doesn't do logic- obviously- he believes in things with no structure or volume that exist, somehow, and are distinct from other things with no structure or volume, somehow. > > And what, John, is illogical about that? Please when you answer this b" > > You're a hoot, Odd > See? You can't answer it. And you don't want to admit that you can't answer it. You shoot from the hip, you just feel from the gut, and you don't ever try to find REASONS for thinking what you do. What do you call that, John? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 16:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on507d$15i5$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646309 |
On 8/17/2017 11:58 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 8/17/17 11:34 AM, john wrote: >> On 8/17/17 10:32 AM, john wrote: >>> MM >>> "far too illogical to be considered, ever. They are so illogical >>> that not >>> even you can give us reasons why you believe them! " >>> >>> Odd doesn't do logic- obviously- he believes in things with no >>> structure or volume that exist, somehow, and are distinct from other >>> things with no structure or volume, somehow. >> >> And what, John, is illogical about that? Please when you answer this b" >> >> You're a hoot, Odd >> > > See? You can't answer it. And you don't want to admit that you can't > answer it. > > You shoot from the hip, you just feel from the gut, and you don't ever > try to find REASONS for thinking what you do. > > What do you call that, John? > Trumpreaction
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 17:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <59960a31$0$28965$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #646277 |
On 8/17/2017 8:39 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >> Odd >> " >>> One more question: did BHs come about because of stars and other >>> material falling together >> >> Yes >> " >> >> ROTFLMAO >> >> Such a cute, childlike view >> > > John, this style of mockery means nothing in science, it accomplishes > nothing except drive home how out of touch you are. Comparison of model > with data. That is all that matters. Speak on those terms and there's > something to discuss. > John, Odd's childish, cute view of science he taught himself, is not going to change. He hasn't a clue about anything. He's just one more like Bert and Archie. He just loves to hear himself talk.
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 09:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fc79a83d-7618-4a45-b7bd-d9c81f16f309@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646276 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 7:51:48 AM UTC-4, john wrote: > Odd > " > > One more question: did BHs come about because of stars and other material falling together > > Yes > " > > ROTFLMAO > > Such a cute, childlike view Odd does gloss over the mechanics of it. But the mechanics of it can all be calculated (IOW, predicted). And the calculations have been tested by observation. This is a pretty stable area of Physics. Not much controversy or disagreement among physicists. Only silly comments from you. ed
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 09:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bf7bed4e-4ee4-478a-a09e-1c2fabcef01b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646299 |
ed "Physics. Not much controversy or disagreement among physicists. " Or sheep. What great comedy! Tell us more magical math
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 12:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on4i4d$ctv$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646305 |
On 8/17/17 11:36 AM, john wrote: > ed > "Physics. Not much controversy or disagreement among physicists." > Or sheep. > What great comedy! Tell us more magical math > John, scientists go over DATA to see if there is agreement with predictions. That is what is called science. Now, if you're going to say that the process of checking data against model predictions produces sheep, and that the way to avoid being a sheep is to trust your gut instinct or check consistency with your own beliefs, then I'm afraid science isn't for you. You just don't have the scientific way of thinking. At all. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 10:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <64fb6682-db8c-41d9-91c2-f0fa423473d2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646310 |
Odd "model predictions produces sheep, and that the way to avoid being a " "Checking" data against model predictions- if it doesn't fit, it's the data that's wrong, because of invisible heavy stuff. So funny.
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 10:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0b4dc7ca-0b4d-4289-af8b-94db5946ee5e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646313 |
On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 1:05:47 PM UTC-4, john wrote: > Odd > "model predictions produces sheep, and that the way to avoid being a " > "Checking" data against model predictions- if it doesn't fit, > it's the data that's wrong, because of invisible heavy stuff. > So funny. Other than you, who claimed the data is wrong. Certainly no physicist has claimed the data of stellar movement in the galaxy is wrong. Seems you do not even understand the question, let alone the proposed solution. Sorry John but physics just isn't for you. ed
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 12:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on4jbg$fsq$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646313 |
On 8/17/17 12:05 PM, john wrote: > Odd > "model predictions produces sheep, and that the way to avoid being a" > "Checking" data against model predictions- if it doesn't fit, it's the data that's wrong, because of invisible heavy stuff. > So funny. > John, let me give you an example from high school physics. There's this law called Newton's 2nd law. Newton's second law is F=ma, and it says, if you know the forces acting on a body, then you can add them up and this will tell you the acceleration of the body. Something bothers you about this law, because you can't imagine a body moving forever if there is zero force acting on it. You think the law may be bogus. You say, "Logically, Newton's 2nd law makes no sense." OK, so you take a shopping cart out into a parking lot, and you push it horizontally, and it speeds up. You do a tally of the forces on the cart. 1. Gravity downward 2. The asphalt pushing upwards 3. Your hands pushing on the cart horizontally. Now you do the sum. Gravity and the asphalt force upwards cancel, and so the horizontal force from your hands accounts for the speed up. Great. Now you let go with your hands and you watch the cart. You say to yourself, "Gravity and the asphalt force upwards still cancel and now there is no force horizontally from my hands. This means that the total force on the cart is zero. This means, if Newton's 2nd law is right, that the acceleration is zero. This means that the velocity doesn't change. This means that the cart should go on moving forever." Now you watch the cart as it slows down and eventually comes to a stop. This isn't what Newton's 2nd law predicted from your sum of forces. Newton's 2nd law says it should keep going without change in velocity. So, John, what do you do? Do you say, "Aha! Newton's 2nd law is full of shit, and I always knew it was full of shit! It got the wrong prediction, and so the law is bogus. A real explanation says that you have to keep pumping energy in to keep the cart moving!" Well, John, if that's what you do, then you've made a big mistake. Because the problem isn't Newton's 2nd law. The problem is your inventory of forces. Newton's 2nd law doesn't tell you anything about what forces are present. You have to make that tally yourself. If you plug the right inputs in -- IF, John, IF -- then Newton's law tells you what the acceleration will be and you can predict from that how long it will keep moving. The problem here is that there's another force involved. Friction between the cart wheels and the asphalt. Now if you had included that force in your inventory, then you would see that after you let go, there is still a net force on the cart, and this produces the acceleration, which is what causes the velocity to get smaller and eventually go to zero. You understand this example, John? Yes or no? If you say yes, then the answer about GRCs is clear. The equation is (8piG/c^4)T_uv - Lamda*g_uv = R_uv - Rg_uv/2 The stuff on the left is analogous to the F, and the stuff on the right is analogous to the ma. This equation says that IF you have the right inventory of mass and stuff on the left, then the right side will tell you what the GRCs should be. Now you sum up what you can see in the galaxy for the left hand side and you calculate what the GRCs should be on the right hand side. And you watch and you see that the GRCs aren't what you thought from the equation. Does this mean that the equation is wrong? (Did it mean that F=ma was wrong?) No, it means that you may not have gotten your inventory of mass right, just like you didn't get your inventory of forces right. Clear? Does this clear thinking piss you off? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 10:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <da3f0568-141e-446d-87a9-3815ab55e9ef@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646321 |
Odd " No, it means that you may not have gotten your inventory of mass right, just like you didn't get your inventory of forces right. " Or your equation is wrong. Or your understanding of Gravity is totally backwards. Which is the most likely, because you have no idea how it is produced or how it interacts. Let's take this one step further- the GRC on the side that doesn't match is controlled by invisible DM which just happens to be right where it's needed- JUST LIKE virtual particles, right? So, are you saying DM on the large scale is the same thing as virtual particles on the small scale? PURE FUDGE? Or what?
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