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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-08-08 14:18 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-08-14 19:23 -0700 |
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I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:18 -0700
I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:23 -0700
Re: I figured out charge zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-08 14:44 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 15:58 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:03 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:34 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-08 23:34 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:54 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 08:05 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-08 23:28 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:44 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:47 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 17:05 -0700
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-08 21:51 -0400
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:05 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:50 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 03:53 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-09 02:33 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:02 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 03:47 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 20:51 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 18:42 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:47 -0500
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-09 17:44 -0400
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 15:23 -0700
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-09 20:44 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 16:15 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 08:27 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 10:52 -0700
Re: I figured out charge zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-09 16:02 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 13:53 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 14:55 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:58 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:06 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 17:11 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:40 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 20:28 -0400
Re: I figured out charge pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 21:48 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-11 12:59 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 18:36 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 19:36 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:06 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 06:14 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:40 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 07:21 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 07:21 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:21 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 17:54 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 12:15 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 14:44 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 05:41 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 06:49 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 07:05 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 08:28 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 10:43 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 08:59 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:26 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 13:52 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 20:59 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:23 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 00:12 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 18:34 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 05:11 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 08:21 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 02:21 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 19:46 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 03:05 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 03:15 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 04:49 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 14:05 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 07:20 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 16:35 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 09:47 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 19:55 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 16:40 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 18:24 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 13:21 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 06:34 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:00 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 17:39 +0000
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 18:12 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:02 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:07 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 19:45 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 22:18 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 22:28 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 05:49 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 06:10 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:51 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 16:13 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 16:09 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 10:05 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 13:38 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 12:51 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 18:26 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 18:24 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 01:46 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:08 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 02:28 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:39 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 03:22 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 04:51 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:39 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 06:00 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 13:22 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 09:01 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:06 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 09:18 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:28 +0000
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:39 -0400
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 07:51 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:02 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:32 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:57 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:02 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:05 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:10 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:30 -0700
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:30 -0400
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:18 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 08:32 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:03 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:34 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:58 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 16:00 -0500
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:27 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:13 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:36 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:01 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:05 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:17 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:21 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:32 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 20:27 +0000
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 18:18 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 17:14 -0500
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 19:21 -0400
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 05:54 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:59 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 06:25 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:33 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:49 -0500
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:25 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:15 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:56 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:55 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 12:54 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:37 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 21:09 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 21:10 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:19 -0700
Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:50 -0400
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:13 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:20 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:26 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 20:10 +0000
At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:13 -0700
Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:23 -0500
Better Servers. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-08-17 10:34 -0700
Better Servers. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:05 -0700
Re: Better Servers. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 17:11 -0500
Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 19:54 +0000
Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 19:58 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:56 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:41 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 08:57 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:16 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:45 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 16:05 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 11:01 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:36 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 04:27 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 05:20 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 13:34 +0000
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 06:42 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:02 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:45 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:21 -0500
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 17:48 +0000
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:42 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 19:31 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 23:45 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 08:42 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:55 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:35 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:39 -0700
Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:10 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:47 -0700
Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:28 -0500
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Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:28 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 15:23 +0000
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:06 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:01 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 02:27 +0000
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Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 19:59 -0700
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Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 20:22 -0700
Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:11 +0000
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 12:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on20n3$q27$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646176 |
On 8/16/17 12:05 PM, john wrote: > Michael > ">THEY don't understand because they don't have a model. > > WTF, John? You snipped the part where they go into quite a bit of detail about > their Milky Way model! " > > So? > Can't you just read? > You ALWAYS snip- wtf WTF?? > Go back and read it. > > If you want to believe their mishmash, believe it. > Doesn't make it true. > OK, John, let's have a little dose of honesty here. There is a BIG difference between physicists saying they don't have a model of what's going on, and you not believing the model they describe. I'll remind you, John, that you opened this conversation about the double halos and the motions by claiming that physicists had NO IDEA what was going on here, and that you had something to offer where there was no other option. That was dishonest. I'm going to ask you that, even though you don't have much in the way of background in physics, you exercise at least a little integrity in characterizing what you read about. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 18:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on22og$fs7$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #646176 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Michael >">THEY don't understand because they don't have a model. >WTF, John? You snipped the part where they go into quite a bit of detail about >their Milky Way model! " >So? >Can't you just read? >You ALWAYS snip- wtf WTF?? >Go back and read it. No, John, that's not what I am talking about. There was a section discussing their Milky Way model. You snipped it out and then YOU complained they don't have a model. So why did you complain they don't have a model when their model was discussed right in the article? Did you not read that part? If not, why not? Or were you being dishonest and claimed they had no model, hoping nobody would read the story and its discussion of their Milky Way model? >If you want to believe their mishmash, believe it. >Doesn't make it true. So why should *anyone* believe your mishmash? Or do you prefer 'word salad'?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 18:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c9f552c0-5f71-4a83-9de1-0b368c45fedb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646186 |
MM "There was a section discussing their Milky Way model. You snipped it out and then YOU complained they don't have a model. So why did you complain they don't have a model when their model was discussed right in the article? Did you not read that part? If not, why not? Or were you being dishonest and claimed they had no model, hoping nobody would read the story and its discussion of their Milky Way model? " You call that a model? Here, I'll précis it; the B happens and creates BHs which eat all the stars except for outer halo, then some other galaxies got perturbed as they passed by an some patches of stars got caught up. But why are 70% going the wrong way? That's not a model. THAT is word salad.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 01:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on2sh5$1vt1$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646236 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > MM > "There was a section discussing their Milky Way model. You snipped > it out and then YOU complained they don't have a model. > > So why did you complain they don't have a model when their model > was discussed right in the article? Did you not read that part? > If not, why not? Or were you being dishonest and claimed they had > no model, hoping nobody would read the story and its discussion of > their Milky Way model? " > You call that a model? > Here, I'll précis it; the B happens and creates BHs which eat all the > stars except for outer halo, > then some other galaxies got perturbed as they passed by an some patches > of stars got caught up. > But why are 70% going the wrong way? > > That's not a model. THAT is word salad. > Nope that's a model. Just because you have open questions you can raise doesn't invalidate it. Your reaching too hard for a reason. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 19:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7898e0cc-68d9-4054-a158-42f17f57c739@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646240 |
Odd "Nope that's a model. Just because you have open questions you can raise doesn't invalidate it. Your reaching too hard for a reason. " That's no model. That explains nothing. That's an anecdote. Why are there jets? Why is there an outer and inner halo? Why didn't the stars in the disc get eaten? Lots of new stars are always forming- indigestion? Why are GRCs ALWAYS an average of two opposite sides? Why didn't you admit Suck Gravity was wrong when GRCs were discovered? Why didn't you admit that star arms are entities when Rainer Beck showed they have their own helical field? Why, why, why are you such a Zombie, Odd?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 02:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on2uvs$351$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646246 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > "Nope that's a model. Just because you have open questions you can raise > doesn't invalidate it. Your reaching too hard for a reason. " > > That's no model. > That explains nothing. > That's an anecdote. > > Why are there jets? Matter accelerated by gravity and funneled to axial magnetic fields. > Why is there an outer and inner halo? Multi-stage formation of the galaxy. > Why didn't the stars in the disc get eaten? By what? Black hole? Black holes don't eat orbiting objects. They just orbit, just like the earth hasn't been eaten by the sun in 4B years. > Lots of new stars are always forming- indigestion? Lots of available interstellar gas still coalescing. > Why are GRCs ALWAYS an average of two opposite sides? They're not. > Why didn't you admit Suck Gravity was wrong when GRCs were discovered? Because GR doesn't predict how much matter is in the galaxy. You have to put that in. Just like Newtons 2nd law tell you how big the force is. > Why didn't you admit that star arms are entities when Rainer Beck showed > they have their own helical field? I've never said they weren't entities John. Don't lie about what I said. What I said is that they are not ISOLATED from each other and so cannot possibly be alternating matter and antimatter. That's what I've ALWAYS said. > Why, why, why are you such a Zombie, Odd? > John, I'll remind you that the mark of a good model is NOT that no matter which questions you ask it has an answer. Your approach is: "I don't like it. I ask questions and I don't get answers. With MY model, it answers the questions I want to ask, and the other questions that other people have I don't care about." That is not how one has a discussion about scientific models. When you are ready to discuss scientific models in the basis of scientific criteria, get back to me. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-16 19:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e985ebc0-e852-47c5-8f22-1324d1f73f96@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646249 |
Odd " it. I ask questions and I don't get answers. With MY model, it answers the questions I want to ask, and the other questions that other people have I don't care about." That is not how one has a discussion about scientific models. When you are ready to discuss scientific models in the basis of scientific criteria, get back to me. - show quoted text -" One more question: did BHs come about because of stars and other material falling together and crushing themselves?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 03:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on326b$7ge$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646252 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > " > it. I ask questions and I don't get answers. With MY model, it answers the > questions I want to ask, and the other questions that other people have I > don't care about." That is not how one has a discussion about scientific > models. When you are ready to discuss scientific models in the basis of > scientific criteria, get back to me. > - show quoted text -" > > One more question: did BHs come about because of stars and other material falling together Yes and crushing themselves? No > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 04:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <da4f28f1-19e4-49ad-b673-db51501429ef@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646255 |
Odd " > One more question: did BHs come about because of stars and other material falling together Yes " ROTFLMAO Such a cute, childlike view
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 12:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on42qi$1joa$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646276 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > " >> One more question: did BHs come about because of stars and other >> material falling together > > Yes > " > > ROTFLMAO > > Such a cute, childlike view > John, this style of mockery means nothing in science, it accomplishes nothing except drive home how out of touch you are. Comparison of model with data. That is all that matters. Speak on those terms and there's something to discuss. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 06:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e8cc309c-467a-45c3-b790-cff950e59f4f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646277 |
Odd Logic is necessary for science. You don't seem to have any.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 13:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on45a2$1ngq$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646278 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > Logic is necessary for science. > You don't seem to have any. > We've talked about this before. What you think is logic only means consistency with your unsupported beliefs. That is not logic and you do logic a disservice by talking that way. Science is about agreement between models and data. Period, end of story. Scientists aren't really going to care that you want it to be consistent with your beliefs. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 09:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on47l9$1qdk$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646279 |
On 8/17/2017 8:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >> Odd >> Logic is necessary for science. >> You don't seem to have any. >> > > We've talked about this before. What you think is logic only means > consistency with your unsupported beliefs. That is not logic and you do > logic a disservice by talking that way. > > Science is about agreement between models and data. Period, end of story. > Scientists aren't really going to care that you want it to be consistent > with your beliefs. > that sums it up nicely.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 09:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on47t2$1r5u$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646280 |
On 8/17/17 9:01 AM, Serg io wrote: > On 8/17/2017 8:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Odd >>> Logic is necessary for science. >>> You don't seem to have any. >>> >> >> We've talked about this before. What you think is logic only means >> consistency with your unsupported beliefs. That is not logic and you do >> logic a disservice by talking that way. >> >> Science is about agreement between models and data. Period, end of story. >> Scientists aren't really going to care that you want it to be consistent >> with your beliefs. >> > > that sums it up nicely. > > People who have unsupported beliefs sometimes have a difficult time acknowledging that they cannot actually account for why they believe these things. Because of this discomfort, they'll sometimes try to defend their reasons by appealing to words like "logic". As in, "I believe this because it is logical," or "This follows logically from my experience," or worse, "It is just common-sense logic." None of these statements apply anything more than whitewash over the persistent problem that they don't actually know why they believe these things. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 09:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on48k6$1s8k$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646282 |
On 8/17/2017 9:06 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 8/17/17 9:01 AM, Serg io wrote: >> On 8/17/2017 8:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Odd >>>> Logic is necessary for science. >>>> You don't seem to have any. >>>> >>> >>> We've talked about this before. What you think is logic only means >>> consistency with your unsupported beliefs. That is not logic and you do >>> logic a disservice by talking that way. >>> >>> Science is about agreement between models and data. Period, end of >>> story. >>> Scientists aren't really going to care that you want it to be consistent >>> with your beliefs. >>> >> >> that sums it up nicely. >> >> > > People who have unsupported beliefs sometimes have a difficult time > acknowledging that they cannot actually account for why they believe > these things. Because of this discomfort, they'll sometimes try to > defend their reasons by appealing to words like "logic". As in, "I > believe this because it is logical," or "This follows logically from my > experience," or worse, "It is just common-sense logic." None of these > statements apply anything more than whitewash over the persistent > problem that they don't actually know why they believe these things. > agree => misuse of the word logic, logical, [fake logic] real logic; I took a course or two in boolean logic, http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/boolean/bool_7.html know how to do the equations very well, designed a lot of circiuts using it. (now all automated into design tools) http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/boolean/bool_6.html brief course in it; http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/category/boolean which is a small field in math, upon which computer are built
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 15:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <on4cnc$2ku$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #646283 |
Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> writes: >I took a course or two in boolean logic, >http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/boolean/bool_7.html >know how to do the equations very well, designed a lot of circiuts using >it. (now all automated into design tools) >http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/boolean/bool_6.html >brief course in it; >http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/category/boolean >which is a small field in math, upon which computer are built I took a couple of courses in boolean logic as well in college. I loved it. They're part of the reason why I wound up with computers.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 17:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <59960d2c$0$12199$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #646283 |
On 8/17/2017 10:18 AM, Serg io wrote: > On 8/17/2017 9:06 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> On 8/17/17 9:01 AM, Serg io wrote: >>> On 8/17/2017 8:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Odd >>>>> Logic is necessary for science. >>>>> You don't seem to have any. >>>>> >>>> >>>> We've talked about this before. What you think is logic only means >>>> consistency with your unsupported beliefs. That is not logic and you do >>>> logic a disservice by talking that way. >>>> >>>> Science is about agreement between models and data. Period, end of >>>> story. >>>> Scientists aren't really going to care that you want it to be >>>> consistent >>>> with your beliefs. >>>> >>> >>> that sums it up nicely. >>> >>> >> >> People who have unsupported beliefs sometimes have a difficult time >> acknowledging that they cannot actually account for why they believe >> these things. Because of this discomfort, they'll sometimes try to >> defend their reasons by appealing to words like "logic". As in, "I >> believe this because it is logical," or "This follows logically from >> my experience," or worse, "It is just common-sense logic." None of >> these statements apply anything more than whitewash over the >> persistent problem that they don't actually know why they believe >> these things. >> > > agree => misuse of the word logic, logical, [fake logic] > > real logic; > > I took a course or two in boolean logic, > > http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/boolean/bool_7.html > > know how to do the equations very well, designed a lot of circiuts using > it. (now all automated into design tools) > > http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/boolean/bool_6.html > > brief course in it; > http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/category/boolean > > which is a small field in math, upon which computer are built Odd doesn't do logic, yet he claims to believe in it. But that makes no difference as science is not done with logic (gosh doesn't modern physics prove that?) Science oddly enough must be done with fantasy, imagination, intuition, ESP, and other sources of information outside formal mathematics. As you know Sergio, Godel proved that even all things that are true in mathematics CANNOT be proved just using the same mathematics. Hence hence all truth in science cannot be generated by arithmetic (all mathematics is reducible to arithmetic). As Einstein so cogently pointed out, a theory can be verified by experiment, but there is no path leading from experiment to a new theory. As usual Odd will reject this as "propaganda" as this level of science is way over hit pointy amateur head.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 07:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <dcf1cb89-dd7b-4f76-82e0-79eb11d35113@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646282 |
Odd "- show quoted text - People who have unsupported beliefs sometimes have a difficult time acknowledging that they cannot actually account for why they believe these things. Because of this discomfort, they'll sometimes try to " Tell you that everything started from a 'BigBang' Tell you that somehow stars occurred from this Tell you that the stars clumped together from Gravity to form galaxies but somehow stopped clumping and new stars are forming- somehow Tell you they have everything figured out but when their suck Gravity is shown to be wrong it's because of invisible "different " matter Tell you Tell you tell you Tell you nothing comes out of BHs, then when HUGE jets with enough material to form Quasars pop out Tell you it's just 'splash' "Nothing comes out of BHs unless it 'splashes'" Best comedy EVER! Keep it up, Odd- you provide lots of laughs (Sergio, ed, and MM, too) ROTFL every day hearing you guys Hahahaha
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 11:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <on4emg$6rc$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #646285 |
On 8/17/17 9:51 AM, john wrote: > Odd > "- show quoted text - > People who have unsupported beliefs sometimes have a difficult time > acknowledging that they cannot actually account for why they believe > these things. Because of this discomfort, they'll sometimes try to > " > Tell you that everything started from a 'BigBang' Yes, because the evidence indicates this. > Tell you that somehow stars occurred from this Yes, because stellar evolution is pretty well understood, and matches well with data from extremely large populations. > Tell you that the stars clumped together from Gravity to form galaxies but somehow stopped clumping and new stars are forming- somehow Yes to the first, no to the second. Clumping has not stopped. It continues all the time. > Tell you they have everything figured out but when their suck Gravity is shown to be wrong it's because of invisible "different " matter Nobody has said everything is figured out. A lot of it is figured out. And since GR makes NO prediction about how much mass is in the galaxy, it was never even indicated to be wrong by the apparent underestimation of mass in the galaxy. > Tell you > Tell you tell you > Tell you nothing comes out of BHs, then when HUGE jets with enough material to form Quasars pop out Nobody has told you that jets with enough material to form quasars pop out from inside the event horizon. All of that pops out from OUTSIDE the event horizon. What they have told you is that nothing comes out from INSIDE the event horizon. Don't distort what they tell you. > Tell you it's just 'splash' > "Nothing comes out of BHs unless it 'splashes'" > > Best comedy EVER! > Keep it up, Odd- you provide lots of laughs > (Sergio, ed, and MM, too) > ROTFL every day hearing you guys > Hahahaha > John, part of the problem here is that half the stuff you cite above as what has been told you is not in fact what has been told you, but is instead a pretty crappy mischaracterization of what has been told you. What is crazy is not what physicists are saying, but what YOU say they are saying, which is not what they're saying at all. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-17 09:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7f32aea7-74d0-4f68-90b4-a6d56991ce7d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #646296 |
Odd " Nobody has told you that jets with enough material to form quasars pop out from inside the event horizon. All of that pops out from OUTSIDE the event horizon. What they have told you is that nothing comes out from INSIDE the event horizon. Don't distort what they tell you. " Prove it. Rank unproven assertion > > Best comedy EVER! > Keep it up, Odd- you provide lots of laughs > (Sergio, ed, and MM, too) Great comedy
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