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I figured out charge

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2017-08-08 14:18 -0700
Last post2017-08-14 19:23 -0700
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  I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:18 -0700
    I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:23 -0700
    Re: I figured out charge zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-08 14:44 -0700
      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 15:58 -0700
        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:03 -0700
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:34 -0700
          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-08 23:34 +0000
        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:54 -0500
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 08:05 -0700
    Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-08 23:28 +0000
      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:44 -0700
        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:47 -0700
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 17:05 -0700
          Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-08 21:51 -0400
            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:05 -0700
              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:50 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 03:53 +0000
          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-09 02:33 +0000
            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 06:02 -0700
              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 03:47 +0000
                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 20:51 -0700
                  Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-10 18:42 +0000
      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:47 -0500
        Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-09 17:44 -0400
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 15:23 -0700
            Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-09 20:44 -0400
          Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 16:15 -0700
    Re: I figured out charge Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 08:27 -0700
      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 10:52 -0700
        Re: I figured out charge zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-09 16:02 -0700
    Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 13:53 -0700
      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 14:55 -0700
        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:58 -0500
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:06 -0700
            Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 17:11 -0500
              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:40 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 16:16 -0700
                  Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 20:28 -0400
                    Re: I figured out charge pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 21:48 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-11 12:59 +0000
        Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 18:36 -0700
          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 19:36 -0700
            Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:06 -0500
              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 06:14 -0700
              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 06:29 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:40 -0500
                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 07:21 -0700
                  Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 07:21 -0700
                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 08:21 -0700
                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 17:54 +0000
                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 12:15 -0700
                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 14:44 -0500
                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 05:41 -0700
                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 06:49 -0700
                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 07:05 -0700
                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 08:28 -0700
                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 10:43 -0500
                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 08:59 -0700
                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:26 -0500
                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 13:52 -0700
                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 20:59 +0000
                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:23 -0700
                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 15:43 -0700
                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 00:12 +0000
                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 18:34 -0700
                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 05:11 -0700
                                                      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 08:04 -0700
                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 08:21 -0700
                                                          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 02:21 +0000
                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 19:34 -0700
                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 19:46 -0700
                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 03:05 +0000
                                                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 03:15 +0000
                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 04:49 -0700
                                                                  Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 14:05 +0000
                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 07:20 -0700
                                                                      Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 16:35 +0000
                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 09:47 -0700
                                                                          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-14 19:55 +0000
                                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 16:40 -0700
                                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 18:24 -0700
                                                                                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 13:21 +0000
                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 06:34 -0700
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:00 +0000
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 17:39 +0000
                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-15 18:12 -0400
                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:02 +0000
                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:07 -0500
                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 19:45 -0700
                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 22:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 22:28 -0700
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 05:49 -0700
                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 06:10 -0700
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 06:25 -0700
                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:51 -0500
                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 16:13 -0500
                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 16:09 +0000
                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 10:05 -0700
                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 10:10 -0700
                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 13:38 -0500
                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 12:51 -0500
                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 18:26 +0000
                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 18:24 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 01:46 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:08 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 02:28 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:39 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 03:22 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 04:51 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:39 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 06:00 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 13:22 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 09:01 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:06 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 09:18 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:28 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 07:51 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:02 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:32 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:05 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:10 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:30 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:30 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:18 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 08:32 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:03 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:34 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:58 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-17 16:00 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:27 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:13 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 09:36 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:01 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:05 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:17 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:21 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:32 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 18:18 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 17:14 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 19:21 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 05:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 06:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 08:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 21:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:19 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:50 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:13 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:20 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:26 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                                At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 10:13 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 12:23 -0500
                                                                                                                    Better Servers. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-08-17 10:34 -0700
                                                                                                                      Better Servers. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:05 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Better Servers. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 17:11 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 19:54 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: At the start of the Big Bang, "black holes" ( Black Stars ) were much larger. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 19:58 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:56 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-17 15:41 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 08:57 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:16 -0500
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:45 -0500
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 16:05 +0000
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 11:01 -0700
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:36 -0500
                                                                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 04:27 +0000
                                                                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 05:20 -0700
                                                                                  Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 13:34 +0000
                                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 06:42 -0700
                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:02 +0000
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 09:02 -0700
                                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:45 -0500
                                                                                        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:21 -0500
                                                                                      Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-15 17:48 +0000
                                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:42 -0500
                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:25 -0700
                                                                      Re: I figured out charge Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 19:31 -0500
                                                                        Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 18:31 -0700
                                                                          Re: I figured out charge Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:31 -0500
                                                        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 18:01 -0500
                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 18:00 -0500
                                                      Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 16:40 -0700
                                                        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 23:45 +0000
                                                          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 16:58 -0700
                                                            Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 17:08 -0700
                                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 08:42 -0500
                                                        Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 08:34 -0500
                                                          Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 07:30 -0700
                                                            Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:55 -0500
                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 10:21 -0700
                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
                                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:16 -0700
                                                                    Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 15:27 -0700
                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 09:35 -0500
                                                              Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 10:24 -0700
                                                                Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:39 -0700
                                                                  Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:10 -0700
                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:47 -0700
                                                                    Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:28 -0500
                                                                  Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
                                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
                                                            Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:28 -0700
                                                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 15:23 +0000
                                                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:06 +0000
                                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 00:12 +0000
                                                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 18:01 -0500
                                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:01 +0000
                              Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 10:42 -0500
                              Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 02:27 +0000
                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 19:55 -0700
                              Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 19:59 -0700
                                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 20:12 -0700
                                  Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 20:22 -0700
                            Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:11 +0000
              Re: I figured out charge benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-11 18:18 -0400
                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 16:48 -0700
    Re: I figured out charge "Efftard K .Donglemeier" <sender@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-14 19:23 -0700

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#645609

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-12 10:42 -0500
Message-ID<omn7kf$11b4$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#645601
On 8/12/17 7:41 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "So, since "fractal layer" doesn't mean anything other than something
> that came to you in a fever-dream, I'm going to assume that "successive
> iterations" of matter are from the same source.
> 
> Just a string of words that mean something only to you, and then only
> when you're high and listening to old Yes albums. "
> 
> Haha.
> Who told you someone just laid 500 old albums on me?
> I saw Yes in there, too.
> Good album- I should play it.
> 
> Odd, Odd, Odd.
> If you look at these things called "fractals", you see that there are smaller things that look like the bigger things and at the same time are the STRUCTURE for the bigger things.
> There are actual numbers in the math that yield the proportions.
> Those are the "levels", and in the Universe's case, they are \orX 10^31
> 

I get the feeling, John, that your understanding of fractals comes from 
just looking at pictures of fractals, and then you inventing concepts 
about them based on what you see, rather than actually reading anything 
about fractals.

I'm beginning to think that you're functionally illiterate, John, and 
that you much prefer to look at picture books and flip through magazine 
illustrations and watch YouTube videos.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#645681

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-13 02:27 +0000
Message-ID<omodet$9ft$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#645601
John, you wound up in a real Twilight Zone moment for me.

First, about a week or two I was explaining fractals to my kid, using a 
fern as an example (look at the overall shape of the fern, now notice each
"leaf" of the fern has about the same shape as the fern, and that each 
"leaf" is made of smaller versions similar to itself and even these have a
jagged edge resembling itself, but the fractal nature ends there but real
fractals theoretically repeat forever).  I told her that nature has many
examples of these almost-fractals.

Then today, while on a long road trip (returning from Canada) my kid
started talking about horoscopes.  I commented that the zodiac signs are
now "off" by one sign/constellation.  She asked why, and I tried to 
explain how the earth's rotational axis precesses like a spinning top
and that this causes winters/summers to get out of line compared to the
stars of the constellations.  And I thought of you, and your precession
obsession.  Then my kid asked about the Twilight Zone show itself, and I
explained how many of the plots involved coincidences that seemed too 
strong/numerous to really be coincidences. She asked for an example, I
stated I couldn't think of any real ones at the moment, but I made up an
example.

Later she asked what are quarks made of.  I stated that right now science
considers them fundamental, they aren't made of anything.  She objected,
by stating how we learned that matter is made of molecules, molecules are
made of atoms, atoms have nuclei, nuclei are made of protons and neutrons,
they are made of quarks so quarks had to be made of something.  I almost
drove off the road, Sefton was channeling through my kid?  Begone Satan!!

But having plenty of practice here, I asked her _why_ you believed that.  
She did answer she's just a kid, she doesn't know the science but it
didn't make sense that things ended there. I explained that you are not
the first to think of that, scientists have been hard at work looking for
structure with no success, but the theory that predicts quarks also
predicts they are fundamental.  We discussed that but I pointed out that
stating she didn't actually know was a very good sign, and knowing what
you don't know is very important.

John, that is the difference between her and you.  Instead of just making
up crap and believing in it for no reason whatsoever, she knows what she
doesn't know, and therefore can learn from future research.

So somehow three of your obsessions wound up here. I then brought up the
Twilight Zone again, and how this one guy on the internet was obsessed 
with several ideas she brought up.

Oh we also discussed lakeside cabins and how drugs can wreck your mind.
And Canada, of course.
Do-do-do-do do-do-do-do...

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#645685

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-12 19:55 -0700
Message-ID<91222c72-22c2-4e14-956d-2a65ec5c695f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#645681
MM
Nice!
Keep that bond with ur daughter.

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#645813

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-13 19:59 -0700
Message-ID<ebc90115-beab-47da-ac77-e3012dc004f8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#645601
On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 8:41:33 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
[]
> Odd, Odd, Odd.
> If you look at these things called "fractals", you see that there
> are smaller things that look like the bigger things and at the same
> time are the STRUCTURE for the bigger things.
> There are actual numbers in the math that yield the proportions.
> Those are the "levels", and in the Universe's case, they are \orX 10^31

Sorry John, but there is no evidence of any fractal
structure to the universe. Real physicists have looked.

In particular there is absolutely zero evidence of any
structures smaller than the planck length. IOW,
nothing smaller than an electron for example.

So keep dreaming John, but it isn't real.
Ed

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#645816

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-13 20:12 -0700
Message-ID<5d5ab6db-546f-4c80-87ca-0acd4e843835@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#645813
ed
Zero evidence for something to small to detect is pretty much what you expect.
That's your proof?
Before the invention of the microscope, nobody had seen what caused disease, but trust me- it didn't invalidate disease.

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#645818

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-13 20:22 -0700
Message-ID<9e57dced-ae69-43e7-95aa-6fed2ac563ef@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#645816
On Sunday, August 13, 2017 at 11:13:01 PM UTC-4, john wrote:
> ed
> Zero evidence for something to small to detect is pretty much what you expect.
> That's your proof?
> Before the invention of the microscope, nobody had seen
> what caused disease, but trust me- it didn't invalidate disease.

I agree (surprised?).  BUT...
IF and UNTIL there is evidence of a fractal universe,
there is no reason to chase your fantasies.

It's a nice concept but not even a unique concept, since
others have proposed it long before you. Like I said,
keep dreaming.

But this is not sci.dreams. 
ed

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#645668

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-13 01:11 +0000
Message-ID<omo907$lgr$4@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#645543
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>So, since "fractal layer" doesn't mean anything other than something 
>that came to you in a fever-dream, I'm going to assume that "successive 
>iterations" of matter are from the same source.

>Just a string of words that mean something only to you,

a.k.a. Word Salad.

> and then only 
>when you're high and listening to old Yes albums.

It has to be something more hallucinogenic than just Yes, perhaps early
Pink Floyd or something stronger?

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#645554

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-08-11 18:18 -0400
Message-ID<598e2d45$0$42069$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#645503
On 8/11/2017 9:06 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/10/17 9:36 PM, john wrote:
>> ed
>> "19:37Edward Prochak
>> - show quoted text -
>> LOL, such nonsense. Well you can be entertaining at times.
>> thanks for the laugh.
>>    Ed
>> 8^) "
>> You're welcome.
>>
>> Of course this means that atoms and galaxies have opposite rotation
>>
> 
> LOL, John, fascinating prediction. How would you test it?
> Let's see. You'd look at an atom and conclude (somehow) that it is 
> rotating clockwise. Then you'd find a galaxy and -- whoops -- it appears 
> to be rotating clockwise too. No problem! Just look at the galaxy from 
> the other side and it's rotating counterclockwise! Proof right there in 
> the observational evidence!!
> 
> Remember an antique toy called a Wheel-O, John? That's your mind.
> 
Science to Odd is antique wooden toys, John. That's his level of 
understanding.

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#645558

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-11 16:48 -0700
Message-ID<fb40840a-dd2c-4a84-b69f-a9ae487d991a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#645554
benj
"Science to Odd is antique wooden toys, John. That's his level of 
understanding. "
He seems to be regressing quickly 

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#645959

From"Efftard K .Donglemeier" <sender@hotmail.com>
Date2017-08-14 19:23 -0700
Message-ID<omtm9f$fit$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#645182
How unusual!  A shit post from a google-poster with a gmail address!

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