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Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Started byArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
First post2017-07-30 17:52 -0700
Last post2017-07-31 13:16 -0700
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  Aphorisms of Arindam 2  - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 17:52 -0700
    Aphorisms of Arindam 2  - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 18:05 -0700
      Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2  - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 19:57 -0700
        Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2  - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-30 20:05 -0700
          Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2  - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 20:44 -0700
            Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2  - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-30 20:54 -0700
              Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2  - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 01:43 -0700
                Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 12:14 +0000
                  Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 05:37 -0700
                    Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 14:04 +0000
                    Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 09:59 -0700
                      Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-01 17:20 -0400
            Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 12:14 +0000
              Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 05:34 -0700
                Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 14:04 +0000
    Aphorisms of Arindam 2  - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 02:33 -0700
      Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2  - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 02:48 -0700
      Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-31 17:26 -0400
        Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 10:03 -0700
          Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-01 17:22 -0400
    Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-31 10:14 -0500
      Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 09:15 -0700
        Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-01 19:11 +0000
          Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 20:05 -0700
            Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:22 -0500
            Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-04 19:40 +0000
          Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 11:00 -0500
            Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:33 -0700
              Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 12:56 -0500
              Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-04 03:09 +0000
        Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 16:55 -0700
          Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-01 20:11 -0400
            Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 18:21 -0700
              Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-01 21:03 -0700
                Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 21:10 -0700
                  Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 01:25 -0700
                    Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 02:13 -0700
                      Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 05:32 -0700
                        Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 05:41 -0700
                        Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 05:51 -0700
                          Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 11:27 -0700
                            Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 16:53 -0700
                              Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 18:49 -0700
                                Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 19:13 -0700
                                  Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 20:20 -0700
                                    Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 20:26 -0700
                                      Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 20:27 -0700
                                        Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 05:37 -0700
                                          Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 06:06 -0700
                                  Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 07:43 -0700
                                    Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 22:23 -0700
        Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-02 12:49 -0500
      Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 18:06 -0700
    Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2  - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction mosca.muha@gmail.com - 2017-07-31 13:16 -0700

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#643614 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

FromSerg io <invaalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-07-31 10:14 -0500
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<olnhha$18o5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#643469
On 7/30/2017 7:52 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> Arindam-sutras/aphorisms on aether and matter below:
> 
> 2.1 Aether, a solid made of infinitely fine particles, fills the entire
> infinite universe.

so, who put it there ?

     Why ?

    we are not a dumping ground for some other universe!!

it would take infinatly long time to do such.

and how do you quality control all that ?  get 10 earth guys and look 
for voids ?

how could they move around in a solid ?  like 'earth' worms ?


are you using magic or imagination ?

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#643625 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-31 09:15 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<c97c5a30-2804-4832-8110-e90a59695e34@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643614
Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.

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#643877 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-01 19:11 +0000
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<olqjpu$lup$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#643625
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup
>and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things
>virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.

Why do you believe that?

<watch John not answer, or perhaps mumble something irrelevant>

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#643942 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-01 20:05 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<113afbd4-7455-4cfd-b3d2-5e9f57533070@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643877
MM
"Why do you believe that? "
Because "virtual particles " showing up just when and where they're needed is the glaringest of FUDGE, Michael. Even a 5 year old understands this. The reason you believe it is because you presumably had to learn it to pass.

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#643997 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-02 10:22 -0500
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<olsqnd$1l3s$8@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#643942
On 8/1/17 10:05 PM, john wrote:
> MM
> "Why do you believe that?"
> Because "virtual particles " showing up just when and where they're needed 

Where do you get the idea that virtual particles just show up where 
they're needed?
They're all over the place, needed or not.

> is the glaringest of FUDGE, Michael. Even a 5 year old understands this. The reason you believe it is because you presumably had to learn it to pass.
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#644396 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-04 19:40 +0000
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<om2ik0$g5l$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#643942
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"Why do you believe that? "
>Because "virtual particles " showing up just when and where they're needed
>is the glaringest of FUDGE, Michael.

Argument from incredulity.  One of many logic fallacies.
(list of fallacies at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies)

Also, virtual particles appear and annihilate with no effect all the time
(this comes from Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle).  Sometimes, however,
they are in the right place at the right time.

>Even a 5 year old understands this.

Argumentum ad populum/appeal to the people.  Another logic fallacy.
(speaking of 5 year olds, did you ever find one to explain "invisible heavy
stuff" to you?)

> The reason you believe it is because you presumably 
>had to learn it to pass.

Not sure which fallacy this is, but certainly a fallacy on this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

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#644009 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-02 11:00 -0500
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<olssus$1pa0$6@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#643877
On 8/1/17 2:11 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup
>> and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things
>> virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.
> 
> Why do you believe that?
> 
> <watch John not answer, or perhaps mumble something irrelevant>
> 

He believes that because he ALSO believes that everything has size and 
structure. Now ask him why he believes that everything has size and 
structure, and the BEST that he'll ever be able to muster is that 
everything that he's seen SO FAR with his own eyes is that way, and so 
everything MUST be. At worst, he'll offer no reason for that belief at 
all, and just repeat it over and over and over again.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#644021 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-02 10:33 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<f10cd560-cf45-442e-988a-82dbc6b76e36@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#644009
Odd
"everything that he's seen SO FAR with his own eyes is that way, and so 
everything MUST be. At worst, he'll offer no reason for that belief at "

And Odd repeats over and over, "just because we've never seen something with no structure doesn't mean it can't exist." (And we can't base Standard Model on it)

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#644025 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-02 12:56 -0500
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<olt3of$5s8$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#644021
On 8/2/17 12:33 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "everything that he's seen SO FAR with his own eyes is that way, and so
> everything MUST be. At worst, he'll offer no reason for that belief at "
> 
> And Odd repeats over and over, "just because we've never seen something with no structure 
> doesn't mean it can't exist." 

That's right. And when it comes to things that have never been seen 
before, you are FOND of bringing out your own candidates, like disklike 
atoms and precessing galaxies.

But such brand new things are only stupid and nonsensical when they're 
not YOUR brand new things, right, John?

>(And we can't base Standard Model on it)
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#644312 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-08-04 03:09 +0000
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<om0ohb$77p$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#644021
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd
>"everything that he's seen SO FAR with his own eyes is that way, and so 
>everything MUST be. At worst, he'll offer no reason for that belief at "

>And Odd repeats over and over, "just because we've never seen something 
>with no structure doesn't mean it can't exist." (And we can't base 
>Standard Model on it)

Just because we've never see a mammal laying eggs doesn't mean it can't 
exist.

Possibly said by some European before Australia was discovered.

(but we see, or at least observe, electrons all the time)

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#643907 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-01 16:55 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<66ad4dd0-0139-4def-b3a8-fe88d268dff1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643625
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.

When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be
infinitely small.

Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#643910 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-08-01 20:11 -0400
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<5981189f$0$54371$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#643907
On 8/1/2017 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
>> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.
> 
> When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be
> infinitely small.
> 
> Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement.
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> 
John is exactly correct. Infinite either large or small is a 
mathematical fantasy and does not exist in reality. Any who says it does 
is spewing a pile of pure horseshit. In science we never say something 
is either infinite or infinitely small unless we are talking about Third 
World human stupidity. You can ask HVAC what we do say in science since 
he pretends to know all science.

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#643923 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-01 18:21 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<7759014c-3ce0-483e-873d-601d8ce41607@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643910
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:11:15 AM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> On 8/1/2017 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
> >> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.
> > 
> > When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be
> > infinitely small.
> > 
> > Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
> > 
> John is exactly correct. Infinite either large or small is a 
> mathematical fantasy and does not exist in reality. Any who says it does 
> is spewing a pile of pure horseshit. In science we never say something 
> is either infinite or infinitely small unless we are talking about Third 
> World human stupidity. You can ask HVAC what we do say in science since 
> he pretends to know all science.

You firstworld lying devils are full of shit.
When thirdworlders get to know this we can have great sciences and technologies.

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#643948 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Fromporaty350@gmail.com
Date2017-08-01 21:03 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<1da361a5-ab6f-4232-ac0c-63fb66cd253b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643923
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 4:21:32 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:11:15 AM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> > On 8/1/2017 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
> > >> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.
> > > 
> > > When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be
> > > infinitely small.
> > > 
> > > Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > 
> > John is exactly correct. Infinite either large or small is a 
> > mathematical fantasy and does not exist in reality. Any who says it does 
> > is spewing a pile of pure horseshit. In science we never say something 
> > is either infinite or infinitely small unless we are talking about Third 
> > World human stupidity. You can ask HVAC what we do say in science since 
> > he pretends to know all science.
> 
> You firstworld lying devils are full of shit.
> When thirdworlders get to know this we can have great sciences and technologies.

============================
Arindam  my friend 
just  take an advance from an old goat like me 
while every bogy tell you that you are drunk
just go to   sleep for a while !!

even stubbornness   has its rational  limits

persistence might sometimes be good 
(:-) tell me about it ....!)
but not  mad persistence !!
2
just forget about Aether !! 
=====================================================
HAD THERE BEEN NO  LOCATIONS OF   ABSOLUTE EMPTY VACUUN=
--NO MOTION WHATSOEVER-COULD BE DONE !! 
======================================================
complicated ??!!
==
ATB
Y.Porat
===============  

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#643950 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-01 21:10 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<f627f8f9-3235-4a07-a165-ebd70d011443@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643948
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 2:03:38 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 4:21:32 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:11:15 AM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> > > On 8/1/2017 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
> > > >> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.
> > > > 
> > > > When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be
> > > > infinitely small.
> > > > 
> > > > Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > 
> > > John is exactly correct. Infinite either large or small is a 
> > > mathematical fantasy and does not exist in reality. Any who says it does 
> > > is spewing a pile of pure horseshit. In science we never say something 
> > > is either infinite or infinitely small unless we are talking about Third 
> > > World human stupidity. You can ask HVAC what we do say in science since 
> > > he pretends to know all science.
> > 
> > You firstworld lying devils are full of shit.
> > When thirdworlders get to know this we can have great sciences and technologies.
> 
> ============================
> Arindam  my friend 
> just  take an advance from an old goat like me 
> while every bogy tell you that you are drunk
> just go to   sleep for a while !!
> 
> even stubbornness   has its rational  limits
> 
> persistence might sometimes be good 
> (:-) tell me about it ....!)
> but not  mad persistence !!
> 2
> just forget about Aether !! 

What to do, I am not one of you e=mcc wallah goats.
Since electromagnetic waves exist, they must have a medium.
And that medium is aether.


> =====================================================
> HAD THERE BEEN NO  LOCATIONS OF   ABSOLUTE EMPTY VACUUN=
> --NO MOTION WHATSOEVER-COULD BE DONE !! 
> ======================================================
> complicated ??!!

No, just wrong.
See my aphorisms and LEARN.
> ==
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> ===============

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#643964 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Fromporaty350@gmail.com
Date2017-08-02 01:25 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<6d1eb8ec-63b2-4998-8a9e-831ba5bb2ca5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643950
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 7:10:58 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 2:03:38 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 4:21:32 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:11:15 AM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> > > > On 8/1/2017 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
> > > > >> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.
> > > > > 
> > > > > When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be
> > > > > infinitely small.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > 
> > > > John is exactly correct. Infinite either large or small is a 
> > > > mathematical fantasy and does not exist in reality. Any who says it does 
> > > > is spewing a pile of pure horseshit. In science we never say something 
> > > > is either infinite or infinitely small unless we are talking about Third 
> > > > World human stupidity. You can ask HVAC what we do say in science since 
> > > > he pretends to know all science.
> > > 
> > > You firstworld lying devils are full of shit.
> > > When thirdworlders get to know this we can have great sciences and technologies.
> > 
> > ============================
> > Arindam  my friend 
> > just  take an advance from an old goat like me 
> > while every bogy tell you that you are drunk
> > just go to   sleep for a while !!
> > 
> > even stubbornness   has its rational  limits
> > 
> > persistence might sometimes be good 
> > (:-) tell me about it ....!)
> > but not  mad persistence !!
> > 2
> > just forget about Aether !! 
> 
> What to do, I am not one of you e=mcc wallah goats.
> Since electromagnetic waves exist, they must have a medium.
> And that medium is aether.
> 
> 
> > =====================================================
> > HAD THERE BEEN NO  LOCATIONS OF   ABSOLUTE EMPTY VACUUN=
> > --NO MOTION WHATSOEVER-COULD BE DONE !! 
> > ======================================================
> > complicated ??!!
> 
> No, just wrong.
> See my aphorisms and LEARN.
> > ==
> > ATB
> > Y.Porat
> > ===============
=================

you are wrong !!
it seems that you don't understood deep enough what i told you 
it is much more basic than your ' aphorisms !
so here  it is again and unprecedented by  its simplicity 
SIMPLICITY !!! IS SOME TIMES MUCH BETTER THAN  abstract APHYLOSOPHY 
=================================================
HAD THERE NOT BEEN LOCATIONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTINESS 
=- NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER - COULD BE DONE !!
=================================================
just promise me that you will give it some thought !

I did give   it some (and may be more than some thought 
to get it ) 

it looks'' too simple''
but yet seems to be a bit more than simple ....

sometimes - the simpler the *** more basic**  
is better ..

btw 
it reminds somehow the
Pauli exclusion law ....!!!:
one physical entity cannot be piled up'' on   another entity
just*** exactly&&!! at the ***same location**!!!!
 as another one !!!!!=====
------
TIA
Y.Porat
======================

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#643966 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-02 02:13 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<397e5c61-c881-48a6-8d6a-e1b24b8d1915@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643964
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 6:25:27 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 7:10:58 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 2:03:38 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 4:21:32 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:11:15 AM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> > > > > On 8/1/2017 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
> > > > > >> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be
> > > > > > infinitely small.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > 
> > > > > John is exactly correct. Infinite either large or small is a 
> > > > > mathematical fantasy and does not exist in reality. Any who says it does 
> > > > > is spewing a pile of pure horseshit. In science we never say something 
> > > > > is either infinite or infinitely small unless we are talking about Third 
> > > > > World human stupidity. You can ask HVAC what we do say in science since 
> > > > > he pretends to know all science.
> > > > 
> > > > You firstworld lying devils are full of shit.
> > > > When thirdworlders get to know this we can have great sciences and technologies.
> > > 
> > > ============================
> > > Arindam  my friend 
> > > just  take an advance from an old goat like me 
> > > while every bogy tell you that you are drunk
> > > just go to   sleep for a while !!
> > > 
> > > even stubbornness   has its rational  limits
> > > 
> > > persistence might sometimes be good 
> > > (:-) tell me about it ....!)
> > > but not  mad persistence !!
> > > 2
> > > just forget about Aether !! 
> > 
> > What to do, I am not one of you e=mcc wallah goats.
> > Since electromagnetic waves exist, they must have a medium.
> > And that medium is aether.
> > 
> > 
> > > =====================================================
> > > HAD THERE BEEN NO  LOCATIONS OF   ABSOLUTE EMPTY VACUUN=
> > > --NO MOTION WHATSOEVER-COULD BE DONE !! 
> > > ======================================================
> > > complicated ??!!
> > 
> > No, just wrong.
> > See my aphorisms and LEARN.
> > > ==
> > > ATB
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ===============
> =================
> 
> you are wrong !!

Not if you 
just
say so.

> it seems that you don't understood deep enough what i told you 

Maybe

> it is much more basic than your ' aphorisms !

let us see

> so here  it is again and unprecedented by  its simplicity 
> SIMPLICITY !!! IS SOME TIMES MUCH BETTER THAN  abstract APHYLOSOPHY 

There is the simplicity of the greatest genius that is I, and then there
is the stupid simplicity of the moron.

> =================================================
> HAD THERE NOT BEEN LOCATIONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTINESS

There are no locations of absolute emptiness in the universe.
Aether fills all
 
> =- NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER - COULD BE DONE !!

The whole universe is a perpetual motion machine, looked one way.

Matter moving in aether, a very fine solid.

All matter is protons and electrons.

They move through aether.

Like bullets going through long grass which parts to let it through.

All the time, all the space, all the matter.

Can you understand this?


> =================================================
> just promise me that you will give it some thought !

I did. 
My conclusion is that I am right.
An atom is having plenty of vacant space.
Only the electrons and the nucleus have a volume.
And that volume slips through the aether without losing momentum.
But the local aether vibrates with electromagnetic waves.
So the electrons have change of momentum with the vibration.
Depending upon reception or transmission this aether disturbance is decreased
or increased, respectively.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
> 
> I did give   it some (and may be more than some thought 
> to get it ) 
> 
> it looks'' too simple''
> but yet seems to be a bit more than simple ....
> 
> sometimes - the simpler the *** more basic**  
> is better ..
> 
> btw 
> it reminds somehow the
> Pauli exclusion law ....!!!:
> one physical entity cannot be piled up'' on   another entity
> just*** exactly&&!! at the ***same location**!!!!
>  as another one !!!!!=====
> ------
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ======================

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#643978 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Fromporaty350@gmail.com
Date2017-08-02 05:32 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<4c6fba7b-3ce0-4938-8c1e-ee7f29a2ba5f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643966
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 12:13:16 PM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 6:25:27 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 7:10:58 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 2:03:38 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 4:21:32 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:11:15 AM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> > > > > > On 8/1/2017 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
> > > > > > >> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be
> > > > > > > infinitely small.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > John is exactly correct. Infinite either large or small is a 
> > > > > > mathematical fantasy and does not exist in reality. Any who says it does 
> > > > > > is spewing a pile of pure horseshit. In science we never say something 
> > > > > > is either infinite or infinitely small unless we are talking about Third 
> > > > > > World human stupidity. You can ask HVAC what we do say in science since 
> > > > > > he pretends to know all science.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You firstworld lying devils are full of shit.
> > > > > When thirdworlders get to know this we can have great sciences and technologies.
> > > > 
> > > > ============================
> > > > Arindam  my friend 
> > > > just  take an advance from an old goat like me 
> > > > while every bogy tell you that you are drunk
> > > > just go to   sleep for a while !!
> > > > 
> > > > even stubbornness   has its rational  limits
> > > > 
> > > > persistence might sometimes be good 
> > > > (:-) tell me about it ....!)
> > > > but not  mad persistence !!
> > > > 2
> > > > just forget about Aether !! 
> > > 
> > > What to do, I am not one of you e=mcc wallah goats.
> > > Since electromagnetic waves exist, they must have a medium.
> > > And that medium is aether.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > =====================================================
> > > > HAD THERE BEEN NO  LOCATIONS OF   ABSOLUTE EMPTY VACUUN=
> > > > --NO MOTION WHATSOEVER-COULD BE DONE !! 
> > > > ======================================================
> > > > complicated ??!!
> > > 
> > > No, just wrong.
> > > See my aphorisms and LEARN.
> > > > ==
> > > > ATB
> > > > Y.Porat
> > > > ===============
> > =================
> > 
> > you are wrong !!
> 
> Not if you 
> just
> say so.
> 
> > it seems that you don't understood deep enough what i told you 
> 
> Maybe
> 
> > it is much more basic than your ' aphorisms !
> 
> let us see
> 
> > so here  it is again and unprecedented by  its simplicity 
> > SIMPLICITY !!! IS SOME TIMES MUCH BETTER THAN  abstract APHYLOSOPHY 
> 
> There is the simplicity of the greatest genius that is I, and then there
> is the stupid simplicity of the moron.
> 
> > =================================================
> > HAD THERE NOT BEEN LOCATIONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTINESS
> 
> There are no locations of absolute emptiness in the universe.
> Aether fills all
>  
> > =- NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER - COULD BE DONE !!
> 
> The whole universe is a perpetual motion machine, looked one way.
> 
> Matter moving in aether, a very fine solid.
> 
> All matter is protons and electrons.
> 
> They move through aether.
> 
> Like bullets going through long grass which parts to let it through.
> 
> All the time, all the space, all the matter.
> 
> Can you understand this?
> 
> 
> > =================================================
> > just promise me that you will give it some thought !
> 
> I did. 
> My conclusion is that I am right.
> An atom is having plenty of vacant space.
> Only the electrons and the nucleus have a volume.
> And that volume slips through the aether without losing momentum.
> But the local aether vibrates with electromagnetic waves.
> So the electrons have change of momentum with the vibration.
> Depending upon reception or transmission this aether disturbance is decreased
> or increased, respectively.
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> > 
> > I did give   it some (and may be more than some thought 
> > to get it ) 
> > 
> > it looks'' too simple''
> > but yet seems to be a bit more than simple ....
> > 
> > sometimes - the simpler the *** more basic**  
> > is better ..
> > 
> > btw 
> > it reminds somehow the
> > Pauli exclusion law ....!!!:
> > one physical entity cannot be piled up'' on   another entity
> > just*** exactly&&!! at the ***same location**!!!!
> >  as another one !!!!!=====
> > ------
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ======================

ok
 lets see about it by some thought experiment 
suppose we have a 'peaceful location that is according to you 
full of Aether 
now 
we have a ball  of say steel  
that is 50 percent of mass
and  according  to you 5o percent Aether in it 
2 
that ball is shot into your other location that is according to you
 not empty - but 'full of Aether 
now what do we got here ??

after that the iron ball was shot in your
peaceful Aether in the other location 
we got the original Aether 
but
IN addition to it 
we have there the 50 percent*** mass** of the iron ball 
Plus !!!
 50 percent Aether that was  originally in your peaceful Aether sea
but another 50 percent that was in the ball ??!

now the little question 

DOES IT NOT BECOME A LITTLE AUQURAED IN YOUR ORRIGINAL 
PEACEFUL PLACE THAT WAS ONCE JUST FULL OF AETHER ??
DONT YOU THINK THAT 
SOME OF YOUR ORIGINAL PEACFUL AETHER LOCATION 
MUST  BE SHOT TO SOMEWHER ELSE ??!! 
NOW THE INNICENT  QUESTION :

TO WHER WILL THAT SURPLUS rejected Aether   WILL BE REPELLED ??
TO ANOTHER LOCATION IN WHICH   IS FULL OTHER AETHER ??!!

may be now you start to understand my new SORRY NEW !!
innovation ??
===============================================
HAD THER BEEN  NO LOCATONS OF   ABSOLUTE EMPTY!!! SPACE --
 NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER- COLOD BE DONE !!!
=================================================
TIA
Y.Porat
=================================

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#643979 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

Fromporaty350@gmail.com
Date2017-08-02 05:41 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<92500ee3-a768-4e31-8379-7b9a123e4466@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643978
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 3:32:21 PM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 12:13:16 PM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 6:25:27 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 7:10:58 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 2:03:38 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 4:21:32 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:11:15 AM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> > > > > > > On 8/1/2017 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be
> > > > > > > > infinitely small.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > John is exactly correct. Infinite either large or small is a 
> > > > > > > mathematical fantasy and does not exist in reality. Any who says it does 
> > > > > > > is spewing a pile of pure horseshit. In science we never say something 
> > > > > > > is either infinite or infinitely small unless we are talking about Third 
> > > > > > > World human stupidity. You can ask HVAC what we do say in science since 
> > > > > > > he pretends to know all science.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You firstworld lying devils are full of shit.
> > > > > > When thirdworlders get to know this we can have great sciences and technologies.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ============================
> > > > > Arindam  my friend 
> > > > > just  take an advance from an old goat like me 
> > > > > while every bogy tell you that you are drunk
> > > > > just go to   sleep for a while !!
> > > > > 
> > > > > even stubbornness   has its rational  limits
> > > > > 
> > > > > persistence might sometimes be good 
> > > > > (:-) tell me about it ....!)
> > > > > but not  mad persistence !!
> > > > > 2
> > > > > just forget about Aether !! 
> > > > 
> > > > What to do, I am not one of you e=mcc wallah goats.
> > > > Since electromagnetic waves exist, they must have a medium.
> > > > And that medium is aether.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > =====================================================
> > > > > HAD THERE BEEN NO  LOCATIONS OF   ABSOLUTE EMPTY VACUUN=
> > > > > --NO MOTION WHATSOEVER-COULD BE DONE !! 
> > > > > ======================================================
> > > > > complicated ??!!
> > > > 
> > > > No, just wrong.
> > > > See my aphorisms and LEARN.
> > > > > ==
> > > > > ATB
> > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > ===============
> > > =================
> > > 
> > > you are wrong !!
> > 
> > Not if you 
> > just
> > say so.
> > 
> > > it seems that you don't understood deep enough what i told you 
> > 
> > Maybe
> > 
> > > it is much more basic than your ' aphorisms !
> > 
> > let us see
> > 
> > > so here  it is again and unprecedented by  its simplicity 
> > > SIMPLICITY !!! IS SOME TIMES MUCH BETTER THAN  abstract APHYLOSOPHY 
> > 
> > There is the simplicity of the greatest genius that is I, and then there
> > is the stupid simplicity of the moron.
> > 
> > > =================================================
> > > HAD THERE NOT BEEN LOCATIONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTINESS
> > 
> > There are no locations of absolute emptiness in the universe.
> > Aether fills all
> >  
> > > =- NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER - COULD BE DONE !!
> > 
> > The whole universe is a perpetual motion machine, looked one way.
> > 
> > Matter moving in aether, a very fine solid.
> > 
> > All matter is protons and electrons.
> > 
> > They move through aether.
> > 
> > Like bullets going through long grass which parts to let it through.
> > 
> > All the time, all the space, all the matter.
> > 
> > Can you understand this?
> > 
> > 
> > > =================================================
> > > just promise me that you will give it some thought !
> > 
> > I did. 
> > My conclusion is that I am right.
> > An atom is having plenty of vacant space.
> > Only the electrons and the nucleus have a volume.
> > And that volume slips through the aether without losing momentum.
> > But the local aether vibrates with electromagnetic waves.
> > So the electrons have change of momentum with the vibration.
> > Depending upon reception or transmission this aether disturbance is decreased
> > or increased, respectively.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
> > > 
> > > I did give   it some (and may be more than some thought 
> > > to get it ) 
> > > 
> > > it looks'' too simple''
> > > but yet seems to be a bit more than simple ....
> > > 
> > > sometimes - the simpler the *** more basic**  
> > > is better ..
> > > 
> > > btw 
> > > it reminds somehow the
> > > Pauli exclusion law ....!!!:
> > > one physical entity cannot be piled up'' on   another entity
> > > just*** exactly&&!! at the ***same location**!!!!
> > >  as another one !!!!!=====
> > > ------
> > > TIA
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ======================
> 
> ok
>  lets see about it by some thought experiment 
> suppose we have a 'peaceful location that is according to you 
> full of Aether 
> now 
> we have a ball  of say steel  
> that is 50 percent of mass
> and  according  to you 5o percent Aether in it 
> 2 
> that ball is shot into your other location that is according to you
>  not empty - but 'full of Aether 
> now what do we got here ??
> 
> after that the iron ball was shot in your
> peaceful Aether in the other location 
> we got the original Aether 
> but
> IN addition to it 
> we have there the 50 percent*** mass** of the iron ball 
> Plus !!!
>  50 percent Aether that was  originally in your peaceful Aether sea
> but another 50 percent that was in the ball ??!
> 
> now the little question 
> 
> DOES IT NOT BECOME A LITTLE AUQURAED IN YOUR ORRIGINAL 
> PEACEFUL PLACE THAT WAS ONCE JUST FULL OF AETHER ??
> DONT YOU THINK THAT 
> SOME OF YOUR ORIGINAL PEACFUL AETHER LOCATION 
> MUST  BE SHOT TO SOMEWHER ELSE ??!! 
> NOW THE INNICENT  QUESTION :
> 
> TO WHER WILL THAT SURPLUS rejected Aether   WILL BE REPELLED ??
> TO ANOTHER LOCATION IN WHICH   IS FULL OTHER AETHER ??!!
> 
> may be now you start to understand my new SORRY NEW !!
> innovation ??
> ===============================================
> HAD THER BEEN  NO LOCATONS OF   ABSOLUTE EMPTY!!! SPACE --
>  NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER- COLOD BE DONE !!!
> =================================================
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> =================================
now you say 
that are locations of 'dense Aether' 
and other locations of ''less dense Aether'' 
what is the difference between case 1
and case 2
how do you define the difference 
 between  more  dense
and the less dense 
2
what is happening *** between your** less dense Aether !!
===
TIA
Y.Porat
===========================

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#643980 — Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-02 05:51 -0700
SubjectRe: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction
Message-ID<4ad6ca60-e59e-4ccb-9742-b0494c2f9238@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643978
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:32:21 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 12:13:16 PM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 6:25:27 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 7:10:58 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 2:03:38 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 4:21:32 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:11:15 AM UTC+10, benj wrote:
> > > > > > > On 8/1/2017 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be
> > > > > > > > infinitely small.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > John is exactly correct. Infinite either large or small is a 
> > > > > > > mathematical fantasy and does not exist in reality. Any who says it does 
> > > > > > > is spewing a pile of pure horseshit. In science we never say something 
> > > > > > > is either infinite or infinitely small unless we are talking about Third 
> > > > > > > World human stupidity. You can ask HVAC what we do say in science since 
> > > > > > > he pretends to know all science.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You firstworld lying devils are full of shit.
> > > > > > When thirdworlders get to know this we can have great sciences and technologies.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ============================
> > > > > Arindam  my friend 
> > > > > just  take an advance from an old goat like me 
> > > > > while every bogy tell you that you are drunk
> > > > > just go to   sleep for a while !!
> > > > > 
> > > > > even stubbornness   has its rational  limits
> > > > > 
> > > > > persistence might sometimes be good 
> > > > > (:-) tell me about it ....!)
> > > > > but not  mad persistence !!
> > > > > 2
> > > > > just forget about Aether !! 
> > > > 
> > > > What to do, I am not one of you e=mcc wallah goats.
> > > > Since electromagnetic waves exist, they must have a medium.
> > > > And that medium is aether.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > =====================================================
> > > > > HAD THERE BEEN NO  LOCATIONS OF   ABSOLUTE EMPTY VACUUN=
> > > > > --NO MOTION WHATSOEVER-COULD BE DONE !! 
> > > > > ======================================================
> > > > > complicated ??!!
> > > > 
> > > > No, just wrong.
> > > > See my aphorisms and LEARN.
> > > > > ==
> > > > > ATB
> > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > ===============
> > > =================
> > > 
> > > you are wrong !!
> > 
> > Not if you 
> > just
> > say so.
> > 
> > > it seems that you don't understood deep enough what i told you 
> > 
> > Maybe
> > 
> > > it is much more basic than your ' aphorisms !
> > 
> > let us see
> > 
> > > so here  it is again and unprecedented by  its simplicity 
> > > SIMPLICITY !!! IS SOME TIMES MUCH BETTER THAN  abstract APHYLOSOPHY 
> > 
> > There is the simplicity of the greatest genius that is I, and then there
> > is the stupid simplicity of the moron.
> > 
> > > =================================================
> > > HAD THERE NOT BEEN LOCATIONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTINESS
> > 
> > There are no locations of absolute emptiness in the universe.
> > Aether fills all
> >  
> > > =- NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER - COULD BE DONE !!
> > 
> > The whole universe is a perpetual motion machine, looked one way.
> > 
> > Matter moving in aether, a very fine solid.
> > 
> > All matter is protons and electrons.
> > 
> > They move through aether.
> > 
> > Like bullets going through long grass which parts to let it through.
> > 
> > All the time, all the space, all the matter.
> > 
> > Can you understand this?
> > 
> > 
> > > =================================================
> > > just promise me that you will give it some thought !
> > 
> > I did. 
> > My conclusion is that I am right.
> > An atom is having plenty of vacant space.
> > Only the electrons and the nucleus have a volume.
> > And that volume slips through the aether without losing momentum.
> > But the local aether vibrates with electromagnetic waves.
> > So the electrons have change of momentum with the vibration.
> > Depending upon reception or transmission this aether disturbance is decreased
> > or increased, respectively.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
> > > 
> > > I did give   it some (and may be more than some thought 
> > > to get it ) 
> > > 
> > > it looks'' too simple''
> > > but yet seems to be a bit more than simple ....
> > > 
> > > sometimes - the simpler the *** more basic**  
> > > is better ..
> > > 
> > > btw 
> > > it reminds somehow the
> > > Pauli exclusion law ....!!!:
> > > one physical entity cannot be piled up'' on   another entity
> > > just*** exactly&&!! at the ***same location**!!!!
> > >  as another one !!!!!=====
> > > ------
> > > TIA
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ======================
> 
> ok
>  lets see about it by some thought experiment 
> suppose we have a 'peaceful location that is according to you 
> full of Aether 
> now 
> we have a ball  of say steel  
> that is 50 percent of mass
> and  according  to you 5o percent Aether in it

No. Not according to me.
Sorry but we have to agree on what our stands are whether or not we like them.
Otherwise there is no debate.

I say that we cannot have any way to know the mass of aether or rather the
density of aether as it fills everything including inter-atomic spaces.
So if there is a ball of steel, there is a ball of steel.
And this steel is made of atoms which are electrons and nucleus.
Like any other matter.

 
> 2 
> that ball is shot into your other location that is according to you
>  not empty - but 'full of Aether 
> now what do we got here ??

Aether is everywhere throughout the universe.
There is no space without aether.
Matter simply blocks or retards the electromagnetic waves through aether.
But all matter goes through aether as it fills every point in the universe.
This is my stand.
> 
> after that the iron ball was shot in your
> peaceful Aether in the other location 
> we got the original Aether 
> but
> IN addition to it 
> we have there the 50 percent*** mass** of the iron ball 
> Plus !!!
>  50 percent Aether that was  originally in your peaceful Aether sea
> but another 50 percent that was in the ball ??!

As aether is a fixed solid it cannot move like a fluid. I don't understand 
your point above. It makes no sense given my standpoints.
> 
> now the little question 
> 
> DOES IT NOT BECOME A LITTLE AUQURAED IN YOUR ORRIGINAL 
> PEACEFUL PLACE THAT WAS ONCE JUST FULL OF AETHER ??
> DONT YOU THINK THAT 
> SOME OF YOUR ORIGINAL PEACFUL AETHER LOCATION 
> MUST  BE SHOT TO SOMEWHER ELSE ??!! 
> NOW THE INNICENT  QUESTION :
> 
> TO WHER WILL THAT SURPLUS rejected Aether   WILL BE REPELLED ??
> TO ANOTHER LOCATION IN WHICH   IS FULL OTHER AETHER ??!!
> 
> may be now you start to understand my new SORRY NEW !!
> innovation ??
> ===============================================
> HAD THER BEEN  NO LOCATONS OF   ABSOLUTE EMPTY!!! SPACE --
>  NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER- COLOD BE DONE !!!
> =================================================
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> =================================

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