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| Started by | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-07-30 17:52 -0700 |
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Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 17:52 -0700
Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 18:05 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 19:57 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-30 20:05 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 20:44 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-30 20:54 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 01:43 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 12:14 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 05:37 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 14:04 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 09:59 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-01 17:20 -0400
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 12:14 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 05:34 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 14:04 +0000
Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 02:33 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 02:48 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-31 17:26 -0400
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 10:03 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-01 17:22 -0400
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-31 10:14 -0500
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 09:15 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-01 19:11 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 20:05 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:22 -0500
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-04 19:40 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 11:00 -0500
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:33 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 12:56 -0500
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-04 03:09 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 16:55 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-01 20:11 -0400
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 18:21 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-01 21:03 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 21:10 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 01:25 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 02:13 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 05:32 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 05:41 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 05:51 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 11:27 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 16:53 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 18:49 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 19:13 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 20:20 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 20:26 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 20:27 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 05:37 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 06:06 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 07:43 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 22:23 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-02 12:49 -0500
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 18:06 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction mosca.muha@gmail.com - 2017-07-31 13:16 -0700
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-08-02 11:27 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <535faf7c-f8a8-4496-b2fc-1cbe0aca5e26@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643980 |
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 3:51:46 PM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:32:21 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 12:13:16 PM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 6:25:27 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 7:10:58 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 2:03:38 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 4:21:32 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:11:15 AM UTC+10, benj wrote: > > > > > > > > On 8/1/2017 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be > > > > > > > > > infinitely small. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John is exactly correct. Infinite either large or small is a > > > > > > > > mathematical fantasy and does not exist in reality. Any who says it does > > > > > > > > is spewing a pile of pure horseshit. In science we never say something > > > > > > > > is either infinite or infinitely small unless we are talking about Third > > > > > > > > World human stupidity. You can ask HVAC what we do say in science since > > > > > > > > he pretends to know all science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You firstworld lying devils are full of shit. > > > > > > > When thirdworlders get to know this we can have great sciences and technologies. > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================ > > > > > > Arindam my friend > > > > > > just take an advance from an old goat like me > > > > > > while every bogy tell you that you are drunk > > > > > > just go to sleep for a while !! > > > > > > > > > > > > even stubbornness has its rational limits > > > > > > > > > > > > persistence might sometimes be good > > > > > > (:-) tell me about it ....!) > > > > > > but not mad persistence !! > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > just forget about Aether !! > > > > > > > > > > What to do, I am not one of you e=mcc wallah goats. > > > > > Since electromagnetic waves exist, they must have a medium. > > > > > And that medium is aether. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===================================================== > > > > > > HAD THERE BEEN NO LOCATIONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTY VACUUN= > > > > > > --NO MOTION WHATSOEVER-COULD BE DONE !! > > > > > > ====================================================== > > > > > > complicated ??!! > > > > > > > > > > No, just wrong. > > > > > See my aphorisms and LEARN. > > > > > > == > > > > > > ATB > > > > > > Y.Porat > > > > > > =============== > > > > ================= > > > > > > > > you are wrong !! > > > > > > Not if you > > > just > > > say so. > > > > > > > it seems that you don't understood deep enough what i told you > > > > > > Maybe > > > > > > > it is much more basic than your ' aphorisms ! > > > > > > let us see > > > > > > > so here it is again and unprecedented by its simplicity > > > > SIMPLICITY !!! IS SOME TIMES MUCH BETTER THAN abstract APHYLOSOPHY > > > > > > There is the simplicity of the greatest genius that is I, and then there > > > is the stupid simplicity of the moron. > > > > > > > ================================================= > > > > HAD THERE NOT BEEN LOCATIONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTINESS > > > > > > There are no locations of absolute emptiness in the universe. > > > Aether fills all > > > > > > > =- NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER - COULD BE DONE !! > > > > > > The whole universe is a perpetual motion machine, looked one way. > > > > > > Matter moving in aether, a very fine solid. > > > > > > All matter is protons and electrons. > > > > > > They move through aether. > > > > > > Like bullets going through long grass which parts to let it through. > > > > > > All the time, all the space, all the matter. > > > > > > Can you understand this? > > > > > > > > > > ================================================= > > > > just promise me that you will give it some thought ! > > > > > > I did. > > > My conclusion is that I am right. > > > An atom is having plenty of vacant space. > > > Only the electrons and the nucleus have a volume. > > > And that volume slips through the aether without losing momentum. > > > But the local aether vibrates with electromagnetic waves. > > > So the electrons have change of momentum with the vibration. > > > Depending upon reception or transmission this aether disturbance is decreased > > > or increased, respectively. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Arindam Banerjee > > > > > > > > I did give it some (and may be more than some thought > > > > to get it ) > > > > > > > > it looks'' too simple'' > > > > but yet seems to be a bit more than simple .... > > > > > > > > sometimes - the simpler the *** more basic** > > > > is better .. > > > > > > > > btw > > > > it reminds somehow the > > > > Pauli exclusion law ....!!!: > > > > one physical entity cannot be piled up'' on another entity > > > > just*** exactly&&!! at the ***same location**!!!! > > > > as another one !!!!!===== > > > > ------ > > > > TIA > > > > Y.Porat > > > > ====================== > > > > ok > > lets see about it by some thought experiment > > suppose we have a 'peaceful location that is according to you > > full of Aether > > now > > we have a ball of say steel > > that is 50 percent of mass > > and according to you 5o percent Aether in it > > No. Not according to me. > Sorry but we have to agree on what our stands are whether or not we like them. > Otherwise there is no debate. > > I say that we cannot have any way to know the mass of aether or rather the > density of aether as it fills everything including inter-atomic spaces. > So if there is a ball of steel, there is a ball of steel. > And this steel is made of atoms which are electrons and nucleus. > Like any other matter. > > > > 2 > > that ball is shot into your other location that is according to you > > not empty - but 'full of Aether > > now what do we got here ?? > > Aether is everywhere throughout the universe. > There is no space without aether. > Matter simply blocks or retards the electromagnetic waves through aether. > But all matter goes through aether as it fills every point in the universe. > This is my stand. > > > > after that the iron ball was shot in your > > peaceful Aether in the other location > > we got the original Aether > > but > > IN addition to it > > we have there the 50 percent*** mass** of the iron ball > > Plus !!! > > 50 percent Aether that was originally in your peaceful Aether sea > > but another 50 percent that was in the ball ??! > > As aether is a fixed solid it cannot move like a fluid. I don't understand > your point above. It makes no sense given my standpoints. > > > > now the little question > > > > DOES IT NOT BECOME A LITTLE AUQURAED IN YOUR ORRIGINAL > > PEACEFUL PLACE THAT WAS ONCE JUST FULL OF AETHER ?? > > DONT YOU THINK THAT > > SOME OF YOUR ORIGINAL PEACFUL AETHER LOCATION > > MUST BE SHOT TO SOMEWHER ELSE ??!! > > NOW THE INNICENT QUESTION : > > > > TO WHER WILL THAT SURPLUS rejected Aether WILL BE REPELLED ?? > > TO ANOTHER LOCATION IN WHICH IS FULL OTHER AETHER ??!! > > > > may be now you start to understand my new SORRY NEW !! > > innovation ?? > > =============================================== > > HAD THER BEEN NO LOCATONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTY!!! SPACE -- > > NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER- COLOD BE DONE !!! > > ================================================= > > TIA > > Y.Porat > > ================================= you didn't answer my simple question on one hand you claim that Aether is solid on another hand you say it is flexible like rubber ?? you cant tell what is its mass you can tell what is its volume so ?? does it leave any room for mass ? how much of our universe id Aether and hoe much it is mass it is flexible it is solid '' how can mass make movement what is the interaction between mas and Aether ?? how can mass act on Aether ? how can Aether act on mass ? what are the rules of their interaction for instance is there the conservation of momentum momentum laws valid for Aether versus mass ?? how can we detect Aether ???? or calculate anything about it ?? or predict anything about it ?? how is change of temperature influence Aether ?? can Aether absorb heat or not why don't you speak about witches on brooms ??!! is that science ?? or sci fiction literature ?? TIA Y.Porat ============================
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-02 16:53 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <5ecc314c-3654-40cd-93d4-775ee6448cf2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #644030 |
On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 4:27:41 AM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 3:51:46 PM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:32:21 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 12:13:16 PM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 6:25:27 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 7:10:58 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 2:03:38 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 4:21:32 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:11:15 AM UTC+10, benj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/2017 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 2:15:57 AM UTC+10, john wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the universe is infinitely big, its component may well be expected to be > > > > > > > > > > infinitely small. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Infinity is what we know does exist beyond the scope of our measurement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John is exactly correct. Infinite either large or small is a > > > > > > > > > mathematical fantasy and does not exist in reality. Any who says it does > > > > > > > > > is spewing a pile of pure horseshit. In science we never say something > > > > > > > > > is either infinite or infinitely small unless we are talking about Third > > > > > > > > > World human stupidity. You can ask HVAC what we do say in science since > > > > > > > > > he pretends to know all science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You firstworld lying devils are full of shit. > > > > > > > > When thirdworlders get to know this we can have great sciences and technologies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================ > > > > > > > Arindam my friend > > > > > > > just take an advance from an old goat like me > > > > > > > while every bogy tell you that you are drunk > > > > > > > just go to sleep for a while !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even stubbornness has its rational limits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > persistence might sometimes be good > > > > > > > (:-) tell me about it ....!) > > > > > > > but not mad persistence !! > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > just forget about Aether !! > > > > > > > > > > > > What to do, I am not one of you e=mcc wallah goats. > > > > > > Since electromagnetic waves exist, they must have a medium. > > > > > > And that medium is aether. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===================================================== > > > > > > > HAD THERE BEEN NO LOCATIONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTY VACUUN= > > > > > > > --NO MOTION WHATSOEVER-COULD BE DONE !! > > > > > > > ====================================================== > > > > > > > complicated ??!! > > > > > > > > > > > > No, just wrong. > > > > > > See my aphorisms and LEARN. > > > > > > > == > > > > > > > ATB > > > > > > > Y.Porat > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > ================= > > > > > > > > > > you are wrong !! > > > > > > > > Not if you > > > > just > > > > say so. > > > > > > > > > it seems that you don't understood deep enough what i told you > > > > > > > > Maybe > > > > > > > > > it is much more basic than your ' aphorisms ! > > > > > > > > let us see > > > > > > > > > so here it is again and unprecedented by its simplicity > > > > > SIMPLICITY !!! IS SOME TIMES MUCH BETTER THAN abstract APHYLOSOPHY > > > > > > > > There is the simplicity of the greatest genius that is I, and then there > > > > is the stupid simplicity of the moron. > > > > > > > > > ================================================= > > > > > HAD THERE NOT BEEN LOCATIONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTINESS > > > > > > > > There are no locations of absolute emptiness in the universe. > > > > Aether fills all > > > > > > > > > =- NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER - COULD BE DONE !! > > > > > > > > The whole universe is a perpetual motion machine, looked one way. > > > > > > > > Matter moving in aether, a very fine solid. > > > > > > > > All matter is protons and electrons. > > > > > > > > They move through aether. > > > > > > > > Like bullets going through long grass which parts to let it through. > > > > > > > > All the time, all the space, all the matter. > > > > > > > > Can you understand this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================= > > > > > just promise me that you will give it some thought ! > > > > > > > > I did. > > > > My conclusion is that I am right. > > > > An atom is having plenty of vacant space. > > > > Only the electrons and the nucleus have a volume. > > > > And that volume slips through the aether without losing momentum. > > > > But the local aether vibrates with electromagnetic waves. > > > > So the electrons have change of momentum with the vibration. > > > > Depending upon reception or transmission this aether disturbance is decreased > > > > or increased, respectively. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Arindam Banerjee > > > > > > > > > > I did give it some (and may be more than some thought > > > > > to get it ) > > > > > > > > > > it looks'' too simple'' > > > > > but yet seems to be a bit more than simple .... > > > > > > > > > > sometimes - the simpler the *** more basic** > > > > > is better .. > > > > > > > > > > btw > > > > > it reminds somehow the > > > > > Pauli exclusion law ....!!!: > > > > > one physical entity cannot be piled up'' on another entity > > > > > just*** exactly&&!! at the ***same location**!!!! > > > > > as another one !!!!!===== > > > > > ------ > > > > > TIA > > > > > Y.Porat > > > > > ====================== > > > > > > ok > > > lets see about it by some thought experiment > > > suppose we have a 'peaceful location that is according to you > > > full of Aether > > > now > > > we have a ball of say steel > > > that is 50 percent of mass > > > and according to you 5o percent Aether in it > > > > No. Not according to me. > > Sorry but we have to agree on what our stands are whether or not we like them. > > Otherwise there is no debate. > > > > I say that we cannot have any way to know the mass of aether or rather the > > density of aether as it fills everything including inter-atomic spaces. > > So if there is a ball of steel, there is a ball of steel. > > And this steel is made of atoms which are electrons and nucleus. > > Like any other matter. > > > > > > > 2 > > > that ball is shot into your other location that is according to you > > > not empty - but 'full of Aether > > > now what do we got here ?? > > > > Aether is everywhere throughout the universe. > > There is no space without aether. > > Matter simply blocks or retards the electromagnetic waves through aether. > > But all matter goes through aether as it fills every point in the universe. > > This is my stand. > > > > > > after that the iron ball was shot in your > > > peaceful Aether in the other location > > > we got the original Aether > > > but > > > IN addition to it > > > we have there the 50 percent*** mass** of the iron ball > > > Plus !!! > > > 50 percent Aether that was originally in your peaceful Aether sea > > > but another 50 percent that was in the ball ??! > > > > As aether is a fixed solid it cannot move like a fluid. I don't understand > > your point above. It makes no sense given my standpoints. > > > > > > now the little question > > > > > > DOES IT NOT BECOME A LITTLE AUQURAED IN YOUR ORRIGINAL > > > PEACEFUL PLACE THAT WAS ONCE JUST FULL OF AETHER ?? > > > DONT YOU THINK THAT > > > SOME OF YOUR ORIGINAL PEACFUL AETHER LOCATION > > > MUST BE SHOT TO SOMEWHER ELSE ??!! > > > NOW THE INNICENT QUESTION : > > > > > > TO WHER WILL THAT SURPLUS rejected Aether WILL BE REPELLED ?? > > > TO ANOTHER LOCATION IN WHICH IS FULL OTHER AETHER ??!! > > > > > > may be now you start to understand my new SORRY NEW !! > > > innovation ?? > > > =============================================== > > > HAD THER BEEN NO LOCATONS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTY!!! SPACE -- > > > NO MOTION WAHTSOEVER- COLOD BE DONE !!! > > > ================================================= > > > TIA > > > Y.Porat > > > ================================= > you didn't answer my simple question > on one hand you claim that Aether is solid Yes. > on another hand you say > it is flexible like rubber Yes. Rubber is solid. > ?? !! > you cant tell what is its mass No. > you can tell what is its volume > so ?? The individual component of aether is infinitely small. Infinitely infinite number of such components make up the universe. In the abstract maths sense, it is the limiting state of matter going to zero. But aether has practical and physical qualities that are quantified. Like permittivity and permeability. Which indicate the speed of light. And that is verified by experiment. > does it leave any room for mass ? It is in mass the we can measure, like we can measure the mass of electrons and protons. We cannot meausure the mass of aether. It is presently beyond our scope. Just can't do it. No way with our present knowledge and equipment. A century later, maybe another story. We may find new effects like radioactivity was found last century, and my discovery that the Lorenz force has no reaction in this century. > how much of our universe id Aether > and hoe much it is mass > it is flexible > it is solid '' > how can mass make movement > what is the interaction between mas and Aether ?? I have explained this a number of times before. Let me try one more time. Mass is made up of atoms. Atoms are made up of electrons and protons/neutrons in the nucleus. An atom is mostly empty space. Between atoms there are empty spaces. Aether fills all the universe. It fills the empty space between stars, planets, etc. It fills every atom in stars, planets, etc. So every atom is filled with aether and it goes through aether. That is every electron and every proton goes through aether. THE COMPONENTS OF AETHER *PART* TO ALLOW PASSAGE OF ELECTRONS AND PROTONS. Which is like bullets going through grass. This parting to allow passage does not impact upon the momentum. The particles just glide through. AS A WIRE MESH GOES THROUGH WET SAND. I hope you get the picture, Porat. > how can mass act on Aether ? > how can Aether act on mass ? See above. > what are the rules of their interaction > for instance > is there the conservation of momentum momentum laws > valid for Aether versus mass ?? As the components of aether are infinitely fine they move apart with no loss of momentum to the electron in its passage through aether. On the other hand when the local components of aether are vibrated then the local aether around the electron shifts the position of the electron with respect to the nucleus. Thus causing more energy to the electron and less energy remaining to the cause of vibration, that is, the wave. Such is the alternative explanation to quantum theory stuff about photons taking the electron to a higher energy state. Cheers, Arindam Banerjee > > how can we detect Aether ???? > > or calculate anything about it ?? > > or predict anything about it ?? > > how is change of temperature influence Aether ?? > can Aether absorb heat or not > > why don't you speak about > > witches on brooms ??!! > > is that science ?? > or sci fiction literature ?? > > TIA > Y.Porat > ============================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-02 18:49 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <1838870c-a669-46fd-9e0a-7fa50025a75c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #644104 |
Are the atoms made from the aether? How is this done?
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-02 19:13 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <22e0f693-10c4-4676-a5d2-d8041c511a80@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #644133 |
On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 11:49:33 AM UTC+10, john wrote: > Are the atoms made from the aether? No. Atoms or rather electrons and protons are in the aether. > How is this done?
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-08-02 20:20 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <268dca5d-02bd-4401-a657-8211bd7afc4b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #644137 |
On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 5:13:37 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 11:49:33 AM UTC+10, john wrote: > > Are the atoms made from the aether? > > No. Atoms or rather electrons and protons are in the aether. > > > > How is this done? ================== and another short...... question: HOW IS AETHER INFLUENSING OUR LIFE ??? TIA Y.Porat =========================================
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-08-02 20:26 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <64f14c5d-aacc-48d7-bd01-75dd5f13c0bc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #644146 |
On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 6:20:37 AM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 5:13:37 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 11:49:33 AM UTC+10, john wrote: > > > Are the atoms made from the aether? > > > > No. Atoms or rather electrons and protons are in the aether. > > > > > > > How is this done? > ================== > and another short...... question: > > HOW IS AETHER INFLUENSING OUR LIFE ??? > > TIA > Y.Porat > ========================================= and one last question HAVE YOU WEVER IN YOUR LIFE ADMITTED THAT YOU- WAS WRONG ?? OR MAY BE WE ARE DEALING HERE WITH A SUPERMAN ?? TIA Y.Porat ==============================================
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-04 20:27 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <5b98efe0-41fd-4d6b-9f99-1a8eb4bba4bc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #644147 |
On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 1:26:21 PM UTC+10, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 6:20:37 AM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 5:13:37 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 11:49:33 AM UTC+10, john wrote: > > > > Are the atoms made from the aether? > > > > > > No. Atoms or rather electrons and protons are in the aether. > > > > > > > > > > How is this done? We have to enter the realm of philosophy. It is all Maya (the Great Ilusion) which is also the name of the Great Goddess. At the fundamental level it is all electrons and protons. Which are charges that are moved by forces. So what really exists is the duality, of positive and negative, or male and female principles, attracting repelling, uniting and breaking, moving and welding... it is the minutest version of the reality that produces life, us. We are a part of this great illusion, the MahaMaya. This is a metaphysical approach, whether it satisfies or not is up to the individual. So going beyond the maya of the universe, we have to seek what is beyond. Some may find sat-chith-ananda, or bliss resulting from a pure mind. Some may get even more confused. Stupid ostriches like benj will rather blow up the world than admit that their extraordinary stupidity is just that, and not the greatest genius as they claim - and so, be immune to "thirdworld philosophies" as they would put it. > > ================== > > and another short...... question: > > > > HOW IS AETHER INFLUENSING OUR LIFE ??? Knowing that aether supports light will destroy the horrid schizophrenia given to light by de Broglie. That is, sometimes light is a particle and sometimes light is a wave motion. To bring back aether, will cure light of this schizophrenia. Light will ALWAYS be wave motion. Thus this great madness in the physics world will be over. Now, this great madness extends to the human world. If light is schizophrenic, why can't humans be so. They can be good sometimes and bad sometimes. There can be no right and no wrong. All is relative. People have no absolute check on their conduct. Only fear and inconvenience restricts bad behaviour. Thus when we bring back aether, we bring back sanity to the world. We bring sanity to human beings. Insane humans need drugs, medication. They do violence, stupidity. So in short, Holding that light is a wave sustained by aether means Far less drugs, Far less violence, Much more peace Much more happiness Much faster motion Much cheaper fuel bills Travel to the stars Or at least to the Moon regularly Equality of opportunity with greater prosperity and knowledge More faith in virtues Less reliance upon cunning Less rule by frauds and liars More interesting news etc. etc. etc. all amounting to QUINTILLIONS of dollars. Glad I could clear this up! Cheers, Arindam Banerjee > > > > TIA > > Y.Porat > > ========================================= > and one last question > > HAVE YOU WEVER IN YOUR LIFE > ADMITTED THAT YOU- WAS WRONG ?? > > OR MAY BE WE ARE DEALING HERE WITH A SUPERMAN ?? > TIA > Y.Porat > ==============================================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-05 05:37 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <c361f861-d5b7-4321-85bc-49adc1f10241@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #644464 |
Arindam "..minutest.." No. There is no 'smallest'. You have some good ideas, but also some bad ones.
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-05 06:06 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <e91dc1c1-0c8b-4543-abdc-040d516dd2d4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #644513 |
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 10:37:40 PM UTC+10, john wrote: > Arindam > "..minutest.." > > No. There is no 'smallest'. > You have some good ideas, but also some bad ones. What bad ones? If you just copy out one word I have written with no context from me and opinion from you instead, you are the one with very bad ideas.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-03 07:43 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <4f32da0a-c353-4364-8213-c6340ab7c358@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #644137 |
Ari "No. Atoms or rather electrons and protons are in the aether. " And of what are they made?
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-03 22:23 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <0df90412-56b6-4393-9615-30a0b5dd2ab9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #644181 |
Electrons and protons are matter meaning they can be moved by force. As to what is force ask leonardo.
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| From | Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-02 12:49 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <olt3cs$5sh$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #643625 |
On 7/31/2017 11:15 AM, john wrote: > Any theory relying on smallest entities to somehow do all the cleanup and tie all the loose ends is just stupid. Infinitely small any things virtual or whatever what a pile of pure horseshit. > agree, it's like a huge pile of infinitely small horse poops...
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 18:06 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <da184883-5401-42f7-8936-3639184e46f3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643614 |
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 1:14:56 AM UTC+10, Serg io wrote: > On 7/30/2017 7:52 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > Arindam-sutras/aphorisms on aether and matter below: > > > > 2.1 Aether, a solid made of infinitely fine particles, fills the entire > > infinite universe. > > so, who put it there ? A metaphysical question. Out of the scope of physics. Some answers on a metaphysical basis are there in my book "The Son of Hiranyaksh" which unites some of the oldest threads, stories and traditions of ancient India. https://www.createspace.com/3861686 Aether, then from a metaphysical viewpoint, is the manifestation of the male principle which seeks to find everything to the finest detail. The universe is the manifestation of the Great Goddess. So the infinite universe is a woman. That explains a lot, I think. The union of the male and female principle, thus, creates reality as we know. > Why ? That is a question not for the general, but for the individual. For every person the universe has its own meaning. I find that considering being aether to be male, and the universe as the One female to which one must be true, is conducive to well-being. So despite all the pressures and manipulations of the soul-destructive media and Marxist intelligentsia, and despite my personal limitations, I have had a very happy and fruitful married life. But, that is just myself. You have to find the meaning of existence for yourself. I was very lucky to have a Guru. Without a Guru finding one's way in life is not easy. One can thus easily succumb to drugs_allsorts. > > we are not a dumping ground for some other universe!! If our universe is infinite that would preclude the existence of other universes. Isn't one universe sufficient. On the other hand, from the subjective point of view, an universe is created with every life form that is conscious; and that universe dies with the life form dies. So the universe we know is composed of the subjective universes of every life form... is there really a objective universe common to all? Romance lies in entering someone else's universe and being a part of it, in the best sense. > > it would take infinatly long time to do such. > > and how do you quality control all that ? get 10 earth guys and look > for voids ? > > how could they move around in a solid ? like 'earth' worms ? If we allow that all matter is electrons and protons, then they go through aether like say bullets through 2D grass which does not impede the momentum unless there is an electric field which sway them. It took me a while to work this out, how matter can move in a solid. One needs to think a bit on these lines to get the picture. > > > are you using magic or imagination ? What is magic? The notion of magic has been debased by the Harry Potter stuff, which is imagination. Magic is what transforms, suddenly. It is real and unexpected, it creates wonder. Thus a colleague said that when he took his car to a remote Himalayan village the chaps there came with straw. Guess why! Technology is magic to those who do not know. Cheers, Arindam Banerjee
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| From | mosca.muha@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 13:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <566030ca-9e3f-4924-a443-b8ddacc1b94f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643469 |
Il giorno lunedì 31 luglio 2017 02:52:34 UTC+2, Arindam Banerjee ha scritto: > Arindam-sutras/aphorisms on aether and matter below: > > 2.1 Aether, a solid made of infinitely fine particles, fills the entire > infinite universe. > > 2.2 The particles can vibrate, that is, oscillate about their mean positions. > > 2.3 The only force in the universe is electric as matter is made up of positive > and negative charges. > > 2.4 When the electric field changes, it creates a changing magnetic field, which creates a changing electric field and so on. The changing electric fields > vibrate the aether. > > 2.5 If the electric field loops as in a current, there is a steady magnetic field. > > 2.6 Matter is made up of negative charges called electrons and protons that > are positive charges. > > 2.7 Under mutual attraction, they go through aether as a diver through a wave. > When static, they let the wave push them this way and that. > > 2.8 Aether is a solid but its density cannot be found as aether fills everything including the space within the atom. > > 2.9 Only the density of protons and electrons can be estimated, for their mass > and volume may be known from experiments. > > 2.10 Aether cannot affect the normal movement of the electrons and protons as > they go through aether. There is no drag. > > 2.11 Aether bends to let electrons and protons squeeze through. No loss of momentum, thus, in the normal situation. > > 2.11 But with the applies electric field there is aetheric swaying from > vibration about their mean positions according to the frequency of the > changing electric field. This is what moves the electrons from their normal states. In this displacement of the electron the kinetic energy of the > electromagnetic wave is absorbed. > > 2.12 Thus only when there is an electric field causing vibration to the aether there is momentum transfer to the electron. > > 2.13 Electrons are like rubber bands while protons may be spherical. > > Cheers, > Arindam Banerjee Simple demonstration that aether exists: https://youtu.be/vjIPJlW7IGA <<<<<<<<<<< comparing Poynting’s effects In 1893's "Electromagnetic theory" of Oliver Heaviside , § 70 , the explanation. Too quick forgotten.
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