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| Started by | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-07-30 17:52 -0700 |
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Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 17:52 -0700
Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 18:05 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 19:57 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-30 20:05 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 20:44 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-30 20:54 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 01:43 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 12:14 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 05:37 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 14:04 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 09:59 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-01 17:20 -0400
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 12:14 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 05:34 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 14:04 +0000
Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 02:33 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 02:48 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-31 17:26 -0400
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 10:03 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-01 17:22 -0400
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-31 10:14 -0500
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 09:15 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-01 19:11 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 20:05 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:22 -0500
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-04 19:40 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 11:00 -0500
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:33 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 12:56 -0500
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-04 03:09 +0000
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 16:55 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-01 20:11 -0400
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 18:21 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-01 21:03 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 21:10 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 01:25 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 02:13 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 05:32 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 05:41 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 05:51 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 11:27 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 16:53 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 18:49 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 19:13 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 20:20 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 20:26 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 20:27 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 05:37 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 06:06 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 07:43 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 22:23 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-02 12:49 -0500
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 18:06 -0700
Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction mosca.muha@gmail.com - 2017-07-31 13:16 -0700
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-30 17:52 -0700 |
| Subject | Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <e327ac0e-5c9c-4a11-b184-7fcea18b9215@googlegroups.com> |
Arindam-sutras/aphorisms on aether and matter below: 2.1 Aether, a solid made of infinitely fine particles, fills the entire infinite universe. 2.2 The particles can vibrate, that is, oscillate about their mean positions. 2.3 The only force in the universe is electric as matter is made up of positive and negative charges. 2.4 When the electric field changes, it creates a changing magnetic field, which creates a changing electric field and so on. The changing electric fields vibrate the aether. 2.5 If the electric field loops as in a current, there is a steady magnetic field. 2.6 Matter is made up of negative charges called electrons and protons that are positive charges. 2.7 Under mutual attraction, they go through aether as a diver through a wave. When static, they let the wave push them this way and that. 2.8 Aether is a solid but its density cannot be found as aether fills everything including the space within the atom. 2.9 Only the density of protons and electrons can be estimated, for their mass and volume may be known from experiments. 2.10 Aether cannot affect the normal movement of the electrons and protons as they go through aether. There is no drag. 2.11 Aether bends to let electrons and protons squeeze through. No loss of momentum, thus, in the normal situation. 2.11 But with the applies electric field there is aetheric swaying from vibration about their mean positions according to the frequency of the changing electric field. This is what moves the electrons from their normal states. In this displacement of the electron the kinetic energy of the electromagnetic wave is absorbed. 2.12 Thus only when there is an electric field causing vibration to the aether there is momentum transfer to the electron. 2.13 Electrons are like rubber bands while protons may be spherical. Cheers, Arindam Banerjee
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-30 18:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <607a97da-1972-44ad-a670-564f8450e148@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643469 |
What shape and structure do your aether particles have? Oh, right, they're "fundamental ". No shape. No structure. No volume. No pedigree. Same problem as Standard Model.
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-30 19:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8d500296-fd21-440d-b864-c2a840b6ce13@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643473 |
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 11:05:30 AM UTC+10, john wrote: > What shape and structure do your aether particles have? > Oh, right, they're "fundamental ". No shape. No structure. No volume. No pedigree. > Same problem as Standard Model. The aether particles are infinitely small by definition. When they are infinitely small like points they have as you say no shape nor structure not volume. However under the impact of electrical forces they vibrate and this vibration impacts upon the momentum of the electrons. Thus the kinetic energy of the vibration transforms to the kinetic energy of the electron. The reverse situation happens when the electron loses its kinetic energy. It creates the aetheric vibration. Understand it as water molecules going past a very thin set of wires forming a sieve. Only this time the water molecules stick to each other in their relative positions. Aether particles bend aside to let the electrons and protons pass through them.
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-30 20:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6640602c-063c-4c0e-a625-c4b44111d00c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643499 |
On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:57:56 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > The aether particles are infinitely small by definition. OK, your challenge is to provide a link to a dictionary definition of 'aether'. I'll go make the popcorn.
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-30 20:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <da79a474-f977-4eea-85dc-9d25d2e815d5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643502 |
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:05:49 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:57:56 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > The aether particles are infinitely small by definition. > > OK, your challenge is to provide a link to a dictionary definition of 'aether'. > > I'll go make the popcorn. Such a dictionary will be made in the future. In the meantime, the definition of aether follows from a book and is quoted in my 2005 post.' https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.australian/wwQ4LkfM4bc/7uhLA2kLDfQJ aether: a solid where infinitely fine, infinitely elastic particles filling the entire infinite universe including the inter-atomic spaces maintain their respective positions. It is the medium for the propagation of energy with electromagnetic waves. From Dictionary Galactica, published 2304AD (say)
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-30 20:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <22946931-12a3-4aa8-b38a-c2d11efb2ee3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643507 |
On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 8:44:08 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:05:49 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:57:56 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > > > The aether particles are infinitely small by definition. > > > > OK, your challenge is to provide a link to a dictionary definition of 'aether'. > > > > I'll go make the popcorn. > > Such a dictionary will be made in the future. In the meantime, the definition > of aether follows from a book and is quoted in my 2005 post.' > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.australian/wwQ4LkfM4bc/7uhLA2kLDfQJ > > aether: a solid where infinitely fine, infinitely elastic particles filling the entire infinite universe including the inter-atomic spaces maintain their > respective positions. It is the medium for the propagation of energy with > electromagnetic waves. > > From Dictionary Galactica, published 2304AD (say) So, you can't actually support your contention that aether particles are infinitely small by definition. Just as I suspected, you just make it up as you go along... not exactly following the Scientific Method, are we?
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 01:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <24835b1f-9933-419b-ae0a-c5875f7cd740@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643508 |
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:54:33 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 8:44:08 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:05:49 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:57:56 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > > > > > The aether particles are infinitely small by definition. > > > > > > OK, your challenge is to provide a link to a dictionary definition of 'aether'. > > > > > > I'll go make the popcorn. > > > > Such a dictionary will be made in the future. In the meantime, the definition > > of aether follows from a book and is quoted in my 2005 post.' > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.australian/wwQ4LkfM4bc/7uhLA2kLDfQJ > > > > aether: a solid where infinitely fine, infinitely elastic particles filling the entire infinite universe including the inter-atomic spaces maintain their > > respective positions. It is the medium for the propagation of energy with > > electromagnetic waves. > > > > From Dictionary Galactica, published 2304AD (say) > > So, you can't actually support your contention that aether particles are infinitely small by definition. Anything by definition is so by definition. > > Just as I suspected, you just make it up as you go along... not exactly following the Scientific Method, are we? I am doing that. In science you are allowed to theorise. I am extending the 19th century notions of aether to explain the propagation of electromagnetic waves acting upon the electrons in matter. And how matter receives these waves and creates these waves. This I find a far superior and intuitive approach than its alternative, the energy based quantum theory which depends solely upon assumptions piled upon assumptions. Cheers, Arindam Banerjee
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 12:14 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <oln6ul$lf4$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #643551 |
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:54:33 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 8:44:08 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>> On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:05:49 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:57:56 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>>> >>>>> The aether particles are infinitely small by definition. >>>> >>>> OK, your challenge is to provide a link to a dictionary definition of 'aether'. >>>> >>>> I'll go make the popcorn. >>> >>> Such a dictionary will be made in the future. In the meantime, the definition >>> of aether follows from a book and is quoted in my 2005 post.' >>> >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.australian/wwQ4LkfM4bc/7uhLA2kLDfQJ >>> >>> aether: a solid where infinitely fine, infinitely elastic particles >>> filling the entire infinite universe including the inter-atomic spaces maintain their >>> respective positions. It is the medium for the propagation of energy with >>> electromagnetic waves. >>> >>> From Dictionary Galactica, published 2304AD (say) >> >> So, you can't actually support your contention that aether particles are >> infinitely small by definition. > > Anything by definition is so by definition. >> >> Just as I suspected, you just make it up as you go along... not exactly >> following the Scientific Method, are we? > > I am doing that. In science you are allowed to theorise. I am extending the > 19th century notions of aether to explain the propagation of electromagnetic > waves acting upon the electrons in matter. And how matter receives these > waves and creates these waves. > > This I find a far superior and intuitive approach than its alternative, the > energy based quantum theory which depends solely upon assumptions piled upon > assumptions. > > Cheers, > Arindam Banerjee > > Wait a minute. Your critique of quantum theory is that it is based on assumptions, and your response is to theorize by lofting other assumptions? And you don't see the flat hypocrisy of that? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 05:37 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <729d4f47-5e37-42b7-a8f5-113d9cf60ba7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643577 |
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:14:19 PM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:54:33 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 8:44:08 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > >>> On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:05:49 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:57:56 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> The aether particles are infinitely small by definition. > >>>> > >>>> OK, your challenge is to provide a link to a dictionary definition of 'aether'. > >>>> > >>>> I'll go make the popcorn. > >>> > >>> Such a dictionary will be made in the future. In the meantime, the definition > >>> of aether follows from a book and is quoted in my 2005 post.' > >>> > >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.australian/wwQ4LkfM4bc/7uhLA2kLDfQJ > >>> > >>> aether: a solid where infinitely fine, infinitely elastic particles > >>> filling the entire infinite universe including the inter-atomic spaces maintain their > >>> respective positions. It is the medium for the propagation of energy with > >>> electromagnetic waves. > >>> > >>> From Dictionary Galactica, published 2304AD (say) > >> > >> So, you can't actually support your contention that aether particles are > >> infinitely small by definition. > > > > Anything by definition is so by definition. > >> > >> Just as I suspected, you just make it up as you go along... not exactly > >> following the Scientific Method, are we? > > > > I am doing that. In science you are allowed to theorise. I am extending the > > 19th century notions of aether to explain the propagation of electromagnetic > > waves acting upon the electrons in matter. And how matter receives these > > waves and creates these waves. > > > > This I find a far superior and intuitive approach than its alternative, the > > energy based quantum theory which depends solely upon assumptions piled upon > > assumptions. > > > > Cheers, > > Arindam Banerjee > > > > > > Wait a minute. Your critique of quantum theory is that it is based on > assumptions, and your response is to theorize by lofting other assumptions? > And you don't see the flat hypocrisy of that? No, not at all. One theorises, comes to conclusions, and then see whether experiments validate the conclusions. When they do, the theory gets strengthened. I have done just that. The charge of hypocrisy applies to the totally wrong e=mcc types who have sucked billions of public funding. My work has been done with my own time and resources. It is pretty mean and low to charge me with hypocrisy but what better can be expected from the racist+bigoted firstworld devils. Cheers, Arindam Banerjee > > -- > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 14:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <olndcq$119s$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #643586 |
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:14:19 PM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:54:33 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 8:44:08 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:05:49 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:57:56 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The aether particles are infinitely small by definition. >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, your challenge is to provide a link to a dictionary definition of 'aether'. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll go make the popcorn. >>>>> >>>>> Such a dictionary will be made in the future. In the meantime, the definition >>>>> of aether follows from a book and is quoted in my 2005 post.' >>>>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.australian/wwQ4LkfM4bc/7uhLA2kLDfQJ >>>>> >>>>> aether: a solid where infinitely fine, infinitely elastic particles >>>>> filling the entire infinite universe including the inter-atomic spaces maintain their >>>>> respective positions. It is the medium for the propagation of energy with >>>>> electromagnetic waves. >>>>> >>>>> From Dictionary Galactica, published 2304AD (say) >>>> >>>> So, you can't actually support your contention that aether particles are >>>> infinitely small by definition. >>> >>> Anything by definition is so by definition. >>>> >>>> Just as I suspected, you just make it up as you go along... not exactly >>>> following the Scientific Method, are we? >>> >>> I am doing that. In science you are allowed to theorise. I am extending the >>> 19th century notions of aether to explain the propagation of electromagnetic >>> waves acting upon the electrons in matter. And how matter receives these >>> waves and creates these waves. >>> >>> This I find a far superior and intuitive approach than its alternative, the >>> energy based quantum theory which depends solely upon assumptions piled upon >>> assumptions. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Arindam Banerjee >>> >>> >> >> Wait a minute. Your critique of quantum theory is that it is based on >> assumptions, and your response is to theorize by lofting other assumptions? >> And you don't see the flat hypocrisy of that? > > No, not at all. One theorises, comes to conclusions, and then see whether > experiments validate the conclusions. When they do, the theory gets > strengthened. > > I have done just that. > > The charge of hypocrisy applies to the totally wrong e=mcc types who have > sucked billions of public funding. I'll just point out that those ideas you have disparaged have been strengthened by comparison with experiments. In response, you declare that those experiments must then be fraudulent. But when it comes your OWN ideas, you say that those too are strengthened by comparison with experiment. But in your case, even though the experiments have not yet been corroborated by independent investigators, you declare that your OWN experiments are above reproach and can in no way be fraudulent as those other experiments are. And you see no hypocrisy in that? > > My work has been done with my own time and resources. > > It is pretty mean and low to charge me with hypocrisy but what better can be > expected from the racist+bigoted firstworld devils. > > Cheers, > Arindam Banerjee >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-01 09:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <b8bf63fe-fab1-4c43-ab2e-ac3307a17998@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643586 |
Banjo says The charge of hypocrisy applies to the totally wrong e=mcc types who have sucked billions of public funding. My work has been done with my own time and resources. --------- Obviously
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-01 17:20 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
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| In reply to | #643858 |
On 8/1/2017 12:59 PM, HVAC wrote: > Banjo says > The charge of hypocrisy applies to the totally wrong e=mcc types who have > sucked billions of public funding. > > My work has been done with my own time and resources. > --------- > > Obviously > And autodidact knowledge...obviously.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 12:14 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <oln6uk$lf4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #643507 |
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:05:49 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:57:56 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >> >>> The aether particles are infinitely small by definition. >> >> OK, your challenge is to provide a link to a dictionary definition of 'aether'. >> >> I'll go make the popcorn. > > Such a dictionary will be made in the future. In the meantime, the definition > of aether follows from a book and is quoted in my 2005 post.' > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.australian/wwQ4LkfM4bc/7uhLA2kLDfQJ > > aether: a solid where infinitely fine, infinitely elastic particles > filling the entire infinite universe including the inter-atomic spaces maintain their > respective positions. It is the medium for the propagation of energy with > electromagnetic waves. Perhaps you could attempt to explain what you mean by "infinitely elastic" for particles that maintain their respective positions and therefore never collide with each other. Notice, further that you have not accounted for the additional interaction between these particles that enforces that positioning. > > From Dictionary Galactica, published 2304AD (say) > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 05:34 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <86446def-c9b2-4a4e-a3e2-6cdbd78e9e1c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643576 |
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:14:19 PM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:05:49 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:57:56 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > >> > >>> The aether particles are infinitely small by definition. > >> > >> OK, your challenge is to provide a link to a dictionary definition of 'aether'. > >> > >> I'll go make the popcorn. > > > > Such a dictionary will be made in the future. In the meantime, the definition > > of aether follows from a book and is quoted in my 2005 post.' > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.australian/wwQ4LkfM4bc/7uhLA2kLDfQJ > > > > aether: a solid where infinitely fine, infinitely elastic particles > > filling the entire infinite universe including the inter-atomic spaces maintain their > > respective positions. It is the medium for the propagation of energy with > > electromagnetic waves. > > Perhaps you could attempt to explain what you mean by "infinitely elastic" > for particles that maintain their respective positions and therefore never > collide with each other. Just as the universe is infinite, the aether particles are infinitely small and infinitely elastic by definition. Which means that if the vibration is very great as for gamma rays they will move more than for say x rays about their mean position, but again come back to the original position after the vibration has gone. As aether is a solid the components will maintain their respective positions. Notice, further that you have not accounted for > the additional interaction between these particles that enforces that > positioning. How the aether sticks together is a different matter altogether and completely beyond the scope of present knowledge. Who knows what may happen in the future, we certainly can know more. Like, how dense matter affects the speed of propagation. Beyond me, at this stage. Main point for me is, that aether explains wave motion, and wave motion supports the Lorenz relation, and the Lorenz relation (actually should be the Thomson-Heaviside relation) indicates no reaction force, and that is confirmed by my experiments, and this discovery will lead to fabulous engineering. Cheers, Arindam Banerjee > > > > > From Dictionary Galactica, published 2304AD (say) > > > > > > -- > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 14:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <olndcp$119s$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #643582 |
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:14:19 PM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 1:05:49 PM UTC+10, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:57:56 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>>> >>>>> The aether particles are infinitely small by definition. >>>> >>>> OK, your challenge is to provide a link to a dictionary definition of 'aether'. >>>> >>>> I'll go make the popcorn. >>> >>> Such a dictionary will be made in the future. In the meantime, the definition >>> of aether follows from a book and is quoted in my 2005 post.' >>> >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.culture.australian/wwQ4LkfM4bc/7uhLA2kLDfQJ >>> >>> aether: a solid where infinitely fine, infinitely elastic particles >>> filling the entire infinite universe including the inter-atomic spaces maintain their >>> respective positions. It is the medium for the propagation of energy with >>> electromagnetic waves. >> >> Perhaps you could attempt to explain what you mean by "infinitely elastic" >> for particles that maintain their respective positions and therefore never >> collide with each other. > > Just as the universe is infinite, the aether particles are infinitely small > and infinitely elastic by definition. > Which means that if the vibration is very great as for gamma rays they will > move more than for say x rays about their mean position, but again come back > to the original position after the vibration has gone. > As aether is a solid the components will maintain their respective positions. So elasticity for you means the tendency to return back to original position, and high elasticity means doing that regardless of higher disturbances? And have you bothered to look up what "elastic" means to physicists? > > Notice, further that you have not accounted for >> the additional interaction between these particles that enforces that >> positioning. > > How the aether sticks together is a different matter altogether and completely > beyond the scope of present knowledge. > Who knows what may happen in the future, we certainly can know more. > Like, how dense matter affects the speed of propagation. > Beyond me, at this stage. > Main point for me is, that aether explains wave motion, and wave motion > supports the Lorenz relation, and the Lorenz relation (actually should be the > Thomson-Heaviside relation) indicates no reaction force, and that is confirmed > by my experiments, and this discovery will lead to fabulous engineering. > > Cheers, > Arindam Banerjee >> >>> >>> From Dictionary Galactica, published 2304AD (say) >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 02:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <42cbf4a8-4f84-4ea9-9c03-2de302f9572b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643469 |
Banjo Boy says 2.1 Aether, a solid made of infinitely fine particles, fills the entire infinite universe. ------------ Which may be treated in any calculation or equation EXACTLY as if it did not exist at all. Case closed
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 02:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9b264c64-263f-4ebb-97ca-0939ab2884de@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643552 |
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 7:33:08 PM UTC+10, HVAC wrote: > Banjo Boy says > 2.1 Aether, a solid made of infinitely fine particles, fills the entire > infinite universe. > ------------ > > Which may be treated in any calculation or equation EXACTLY as if it did not exist at all. > > Case closed Trigonometry did not exist at all for those chaps who made the pyramids.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-07-31 17:26 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <597fa068$0$32196$b1db1813$145976f0@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #643552 |
On 7/31/2017 5:33 AM, HVAC wrote: > Banjo Boy says > 2.1 Aether, a solid made of infinitely fine particles, fills the entire > infinite universe. > ------------ > > Which may be treated in any calculation or equation EXACTLY as if it did not exist at all. > > Case closed > HVAC believes if you repeat a lie often enough (ANY lie, like BB or no Aether, not just BJ "believes" in ghosts) then it becomes true. That is his version of "science".
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-01 10:03 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <c71658b4-d4e1-443f-b031-c3c5f2ff48a3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #643693 |
BJ quacked HVAC believes if you repeat a lie often enough (ANY lie, like BB or no Aether, not just BJ "believes" in ghosts) then it becomes true. ----------- I bet Banjo believes in ghosts along with all manner of crazy shit. He's just like you BJ!
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-01 17:22 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Aphorisms of Arindam 2 - Matter and electromagnetic waves in aether and thier interaction |
| Message-ID | <5980f0fc$0$57878$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #643859 |
On 8/1/2017 1:03 PM, HVAC wrote: > BJ quacked > HVAC believes if you repeat a lie often enough (ANY lie, like BB or no > Aether, not just BJ "believes" in ghosts) then it becomes true. > ----------- > > I bet Banjo believes in ghosts along with all manner of crazy shit. He's just like you BJ! > Still looking for someone who also believes in "gook ghosts" (tm) like you do? I think it's going to be a long wait.
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