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HVAC Health Update

Started byHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
First post2017-07-22 04:34 -0700
Last post2017-07-26 18:58 -0400
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  HVAC Health Update HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 04:34 -0700
    HVAC Health Update john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 06:01 -0700
      Re: HVAC Health Update benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-22 18:05 -0400
    Re: HVAC Health Update benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-22 18:04 -0400
      Re: HVAC Health Update HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 16:51 -0700
    Re: HVAC Health Update Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 17:52 -0700
      Re: HVAC Health Update benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-22 21:32 -0400
        Re: HVAC Health Update john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 23:43 -0700
          Re: HVAC Health Update HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 10:32 -0700
            Re: HVAC Health Update Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 11:27 -0700
              Re: HVAC Health Update HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 12:41 -0700
                Re: HVAC Health Update Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 13:06 -0700
                  Re: HVAC Health Update HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 13:38 -0700
                    Re: HVAC Health Update john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 14:44 -0700
                      Re: HVAC Health Update HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 17:08 -0700
                    Re: HVAC Health Update Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 15:24 -0700
                      Re: HVAC Health Update HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 17:22 -0700
                        Re: HVAC Health Update Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 17:57 -0700
                        Re: HVAC Health Update Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-25 08:00 -0500
                          Re: HVAC Health Update HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 06:13 -0700
                            Re: HVAC Health Update James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 08:35 -0700
                            Re: HVAC Health Update Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 09:33 -0700
                            Re: HVAC Health Update Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-25 14:38 -0500
              Re: HVAC Health Update benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-24 17:42 -0400
    Re: HVAC Health Update Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-23 19:31 -0500
    Re: HVAC Health Update Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 10:53 -0700
      Re: HVAC Health Update HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 18:09 -0700
        Re: HVAC Health Update Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 18:30 -0700
          Re: HVAC Health Update Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 19:02 -0700
        Re: HVAC Health Update moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-26 17:38 +0000
      Re: HVAC Health Update Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 07:42 -0700
        Re: HVAC Health Update john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 08:15 -0700
          Re: HVAC Health Update Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 09:27 -0700
            Re: HVAC Health Update Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 15:24 -0700
          Re: HVAC Health Update moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-26 17:50 +0000
            Re: HVAC Health Update Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-29 09:35 -0700
              Re: HVAC Health Update HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-07-29 17:18 -0700
          Re: HVAC Health Update Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 11:03 -0700
          Re: HVAC Health Update Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 13:16 -0500
            Re: HVAC Health Update benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-26 18:58 -0400

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#642401

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-25 08:35 -0700
Message-ID<eb2d7931-4cfd-4161-a954-7622249426fd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#642379
On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 6:13:12 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:


> McFly is one of the irrelevants here. He can bark and squawk all he likes. As moderator I allow this. People ask why don't I just get rid of him.
> 
> NO... In fact FUCK no.
> 
> I prefer an open dialogue. And as you all can clearly see, McFly provides us with the opposite of science. Many here do. I never compile lits but BJ, Loopy, Poor John, Banjo, and others are a sample of those who oppose science. This can act as a sounding board. If any of them agree with what you say, then you damn well know you'd better discard that idea.

Look, two trolls talking to each other.

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#642406

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-25 09:33 -0700
Message-ID<013357b4-5951-4ae6-a8e6-16e359b6dca0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#642379
On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 9:13:12 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> Sergio says
>> James McGinn's Retraction;  "The notion that moist air is always heavier 
>> per volume than dry air is refuted.  It is proven false. It is mistaken. 
>> It is wrong." 
> 
>> McGinn's statement is the result of his final realization that his 
>> unproven theory consists  science fiction, his imagination and verbal 
>> hand waving that doesn't make any sense to anyone, not even his cat. 
> ----------
> 
> McFly is one of the irrelevants here. He can bark and squawk all he
> likes. As moderator I allow this. People ask why don't I just get
> rid of him.

McFly's got less science than you do HVAC. That's an accomplishment!

> NO... In fact FUCK no.

This message brought to you by WeThePeople@# to ThemTheScrewedAnimals@#:
In the essence of all fair and honest FUCK disclosure, I am now deleting
all my Twitter/Email/Usenet/... History. See how honest I can pretend to be?!

Point? Why must I always have a point?! Fine. This time only. Just this once! 

What do Death Panels call 24+ million uninsured USofAmericans? A good start! Die die DIE!

I paint a pretty picture, do I not?! Agree or die. It's very Very VERY pretty?!

> I prefer an open dialogue. And as you all can clearly see, McFly
> provides us with the opposite of science. Many here do. I never
> compile lits but BJ, Loopy, Poor John, Banjo, and others are a
> sample of those who oppose science. This can act as a sounding
> board. If any of them agree with what you say, then you damn well
> know you'd better discard that idea.

Oppose? Hello?! Loopy here. Can you not see me?! What, am I invisible?!

> HVAC logic

Bullshit logic! Oxymoron du jour! Then I thought I alone was born a Taurus. O(y)e.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#642424

FromSerg io <invaalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-07-25 14:38 -0500
Message-ID<ol86o5$1dlj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#642379
On 7/25/2017 8:13 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Sergio says
> James McGinn's Retraction;  "The notion that moist air is always heavier
> per volume than dry air is refuted.  It is proven false. It is mistaken.
> It is wrong."
> 
> 
> McGinn's statement is the result of his final realization that his
> unproven theory consists  science fiction, his imagination and verbal
> hand waving that doesn't make any sense to anyone, not even his cat.
> ----------
> 
> McFly is one of the irrelevants here. He can bark and squawk all he likes. As moderator I allow this. People ask why don't I just get rid of him.
> 
> NO... In fact FUCK no.
> 
> I prefer an open dialogue. And as you all can clearly see, McFly provides us with the opposite of science. Many here do. I never compile lits but BJ, Loopy, Poor John, Banjo, and others are a sample of those who oppose science. This can act as a sounding board. If any of them agree with what you say, then you damn well know you'd better discard that idea.
> 
> HVAC logic
> 

I see, so it is like asking the Ex a question....

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#642220

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-07-24 17:42 -0400
Message-ID<597669c1$0$53748$c3e8da3$3304c218@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#641981
On 7/23/2017 2:27 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 1:32:17 PM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
>> Poor John says
>> ed
>> "Jevity.
>> Is.
>> Cow.
>>
>> It.
>> Will.
>> Kill.
>> You.
> 
> Actually JohnJi, I study a lot of Nature. Fish eat fish. Birds eat birds.
> Worms feed on up to become the circle of life. O deer! Lions! Tigers! Bears!
> Overeating will surely kill any one. See any old fat humans? Where^3?!

A friend of mine had a very fat old cat. Of course the cat is dead now.

>> John,
>> you really are a sad person. Do you talk to your mother this way?
>> I could say more but I'm really trying hard to be polite.
>>   Have a so-so day.
>>     ed
>>    ed"
> 
> GEICO, Progressive, ED, Nationwide, ... commercials go here. All the time.
> Let's now do pharmaceuticals. Take some. Get sicker. Then take more pills...
> Fwiw... Biological Physics is a very profitable Science, unlike ...youKnow.
> 
> Patient: Tell me Doctor, how much is this treatment going to cost me?
> Doctor: Let me put it this way, how much you got? ChaChinga!
> 
>> ed- please forget polite. You aren't.
>> If HVAC would listen to me and quit
>> using a whey-based protein, he'd be
>> better off.
> 
> I had a bad food poisoning painful incident past week, all vegetarian food too!
> I think there's a vast hidden conspiracy by Nature, she's trying to kill me/us/we/them/...

She's giving you the hint to get a job so you cn afford decent vegetables!

>> Your advice- to post his 'running'- is pc
>> (useless).
>> Have the day you deserve, ed
>> -------------
>>
>> When I was in the hospital some holy people came and asked to pray
>> with me for my cancer.
> 
> Let me guess, a Catholic Hospital? Maybe they're trying to kill you, HVAC?

HVAC pretends to follow the Lib Journalist party line...but you and I 
know Mypal, that "once a Catholic, ALWAYS a Catholic" Even my commie 
grandpa ended up in the casket with a rosary in his hand. All his commie 
friends came to the funeral saw the rosary and all turned around and 
left. Bet HVAC pretends rosaries make him mad too...until the day when 
there's one in his hand again!

>> I tore them a new asshole.
> 
> Sick sick SICK, sounds like the old 6 6 6. Look Mother, the Psycho Evil is coming.
> 
>> Told them I would stick with science. I'll give you the same reply
>> except I'm not jacked up on morphine now so I'm being nice to your
>> sorry ass.
> 
> Sure, that sounds like acceptable human behaviour. HVAC + Science = Jokes!
> 
>> Yw
> 
> Hey, HVAC, do you have a mother? A human mother? What colour are her eyes?
> HVAC, keep your anonymous secrecy, for that's the only way you'll have balls.

Nope. No college. No mother. They flipped over a rock and there he was. 
HVAC IS the muthah!

> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis! Grasshopper Mode...”
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.
> 

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#642058

FromSerg io <invaalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-07-23 19:31 -0500
Message-ID<ol3f5n$1fda$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#641808
On 7/22/2017 6:34 AM, HVAC wrote:
> 
> First of all. Thank you for all the kind notes I've received. There are many here who read but do not post.
> 
> I still cannot eat solid food. It sort of makes me choke and gets stuck in my throat. So I'm still doing 6 cans of Jevity per day along with massive amounts of water, juice and coffee. Since I'm trying to put on weight, I drink a chocolate or coffee frappe just about everyday.
> 
> Over the last couple months I began walking. Started out with about a half mile. Now I'm up to my personal best since I caught the cancer of 3-1/4 miles yesterday.
> 
> I'm trying to be careful and not push it too fast. I use a GPS tracking app to measure distance and keep a log for me. It really helps.
> 
> When the weather cools a bit I'm hoping to begin running again. Some of you old timers here recall when I used to run almost every day.
> 
> I just really enjoy being out doors. This cancer stole my life and this is me fighting back.
> 
> Again, thank you all for the well wishes. Looks like the doctor who told me I had 6 months to live is gonna have to wait just a bit longer
> 

Stay Healthy my friend.

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#642413

FromSolving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-25 10:53 -0700
Message-ID<ae73d252-72bc-4ebe-8b4a-e3eb33ef64c5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#641808
On Saturday, July 22, 2017 at 4:34:54 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:
> First of all. Thank you for all the kind notes I've received. There are many here who read but do not post.

You're a fucking liar.  Who is going to send email to a troll?

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#642524

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-25 18:09 -0700
Message-ID<5b1166a2-61c0-42b9-a6a6-42678bb4b423@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#642413
Solving Tornadoes
On Saturday, July 22, 2017 at 4:34:54 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote: 
> First of all. Thank you for all the kind notes I've received. There are many here who read but do not post. 

You're a fucking liar.  Who is going to send email to a troll? 
--------------

Your momma?

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#642538

FromSolving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-25 18:30 -0700
Message-ID<6cf106e5-8127-4658-b780-4f813ddf68d4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#642524
On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 6:09:41 PM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:
> Solving Tornadoes
> On Saturday, July 22, 2017 at 4:34:54 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote: 
> > First of all. Thank you for all the kind notes I've received. There are many here who read but do not post. 
> 
> You're a fucking liar.  Who is going to send email to a troll? 
> --------------
> 
> Your momma?

OMG?  HVAC wants us to think he recieves fan mail?

Hey Sergio, do you get fan mail too?

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#642548

FromClaudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-25 19:02 -0700
Message-ID<8479310d-fa79-40db-903f-36c3f0435927@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#642538
On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 6:30:08 PM UTC-7, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 6:09:41 PM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:
> > Solving Tornadoes
> > On Saturday, July 22, 2017 at 4:34:54 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote: 
> > > First of all. Thank you for all the kind notes I've received. There are many here who read but do not post. 
> > 
> > You're a fucking liar.  Who is going to send email to a troll? 
> > --------------
> > 
> > Your momma?
> 
> OMG?  HVAC wants us to think he recieves fan mail?
> 
> Hey Sergio, do you get fan mail too?

Maybe they send it to each other.

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#642639

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-26 17:38 +0000
Message-ID<olak1s$5ln$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#642524
HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> writes:

>Solving Tornadoes
>On Saturday, July 22, 2017 at 4:34:54 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote: 
>> First of all. Thank you for all the kind notes I've received. There are many here who read but do not post. 

>You're a fucking liar.  Who is going to send email to a troll? 
>--------------

>Your momma?

Maybe all his assorted socks (Solving Tornadoes, Denk, McGinn etc.) email each other!

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#642612

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-26 07:42 -0700
Message-ID<088fc152-81c7-4b12-9d44-a909e8e65130@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#642413
On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 1:53:30 PM UTC-4, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> On Saturday, July 22, 2017 at 4:34:54 AM UTC-7, HVAC wrote:
> > First of all. Thank you for all the kind notes I've received. There are many here who read but do not post.
> 
> You're a fucking liar.  Who is going to send email to a troll?

AH, Jimboo, do you feel left out?
Don't cry.

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#642623

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-26 08:15 -0700
Message-ID<63636012-b4d6-4e00-b093-b371ce222346@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#642612
ed
ed
  ed
"AH, Jimboo, do you feel left out? "

Any mail HVAC gets is hate mail.
But posting to myself doesn't really do it 4 me.

ed, I have tried to open your eyes;
Suck Gravity is a logical impossibility- where are the little ropes? "Fundamental " particles is also logically impossible- no shape? no volume? but different than each other? Why do you agree with such obvious BS, ed? The 

I have tried to educate you, ed.
Are you sure you're not another PD sock? Like Odd, The Wiz, Absolutely Vertical, Big Dog, et al?

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#642631

FromClaudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-26 09:27 -0700
Message-ID<b2f9ca40-0c19-4794-9946-bee6384a754f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#642623
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:15:10 AM UTC-7, john wrote:


> ed, I have tried to open your eyes;

Ed is not capable of the kind of severe (and uncommon) intellectual honesty that is necessary to make any progress against the wind of consensus idiocy that currently dominates all scientific discourse.

> Suck Gravity is a logical impossibility- where are the little ropes? 

Excellent comment.  You should check out a guy on YouTube that goes by the name DraftScience. He has a comprehensive theory one feature of which is an explanation of gravity that involves pressure.  You might find him interesting.  Be forewarned, however, that he tends to produce long videos in which he spends a lot of time berating trolls. 

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#642675

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-26 15:24 -0700
Message-ID<d407d566-b32b-4a18-8c54-74b45de95c8a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#642631
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 12:27:47 PM UTC-4, Claudius Denk wrote:
> You should check out a guy on YouTube that goes by the name DraftScience.
> He has a comprehensive theory one feature of which is an explanation of
> gravity that involves pressure.  You might find him interesting.  Be
> forewarned, however, that he tends to produce long videos in which he
> spends a lot of time berating trolls.

Are you sure that DaftScience is not you, Jimboo?
It sure sounds like you.

ed

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#642640

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-07-26 17:50 +0000
Message-ID<olakoh$5ln$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#642623
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>I have tried to educate you, ed.

What do you mean, John?  Many here have tried to educate *you* about
science, but you absolutely refuse to learn.  And with all your "problems"
you have with parts of science (attractive gravity, fundamental particles
and so forth) you can't even give him (or me) a reason _why_ they are
wrong. You just say it is somehow "obvious" they are.  How can you
"educate" anyone if you don't even have reasons why you believe what you
do?

>Are you sure you're not another PD sock? Like Odd, The Wiz, Absolutely Vertical, Big Dog, et al?

What is it with you kooks and your obsession with PD, and thinking
anyone who seems to actually know some physics must be a PD sock?

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#643260

FromSolving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-29 09:35 -0700
Message-ID<6dbdc2cf-e68b-46fd-836b-fdaa032e4c47@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#642640
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:50:15 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >I have tried to educate you, ed.
> 
> What do you mean, John?  Many here have tried to educate *you* about
> science,

No, you fucking troll. It is you that needs schooling. You retards don't have arguments.  You have dull-witted beliefs the underlying basis of which you cannot explain.

> but you absolutely refuse to learn.

What is anybody going to learn from a twerp lik you?  I already know how to use a search engine.

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#643305

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-29 17:18 -0700
Message-ID<d97d5757-ab6b-44fd-8506-7aa6acab7f0e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#643260
McFly says
What is anybody going to learn from a twerp lik you?  I already know how to use a search engine.
-----------

I just googled up "desperately in need of attention" and your picture came up.

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#642643

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-26 11:03 -0700
Message-ID<0b1d252d-1861-43b0-8475-572b76c83d2d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#642623
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 11:15:10 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> ed
> ed
>   ed
> "AH, Jimboo, do you feel left out? "
> 
> Any mail HVAC gets is hate mail.
> But posting to myself doesn't really do it 4 me.
> 
> ed, I have tried to open your eyes;
> Suck Gravity is a logical impossibility- where are the little ropes?

Not needed. there is not "suck" to begin with. It is all geodesics.

> "Fundamental " particles is also logically impossible-
Huh? given there is NO evidence of anything smaller than an electron,
for example, where is the logic for abandoning the idea of fundamental
paticles?

> no shape? no volume? but different than each other?
> Why do you agree with such obvious BS, ed? The 

You think shape and volume are the only properties?


> 
> I have tried to educate you, ed.
> Are you sure you're not another PD sock? Like Odd, The Wiz,
> Absolutely Vertical, Big Dog, et al?

You know I am not anyone's puppet.
Why the anger. calm down.
ed
(back to work.)

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#642649

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-26 13:16 -0500
Message-ID<olama5$1892$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#642623
On 7/26/17 10:15 AM, john wrote:
> Suck Gravity is a logical impossibility- where are the little ropes?

And why do you think that there needs to be a material contact to 
generate the pull? Why do you think that any pull MUST be from little ropes?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#642691

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-07-26 18:58 -0400
Message-ID<59791e9d$0$53784$c3e8da3$3304c218@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#642649
On 7/26/2017 2:16 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/26/17 10:15 AM, john wrote:
>> Suck Gravity is a logical impossibility- where are the little ropes?
> 
> And why do you think that there needs to be a material contact to 
> generate the pull? Why do you think that any pull MUST be from little 
> ropes?
> 
Because that is what makes sense in your world, Odd.
It's same as your vacuum cleaner. Tiny invisible sticky strings grab 
onto the dirt and filth and "suck" it into the hose. It's simple Lib 
science. Plausible and easy for anyone to understand.

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