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Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane?

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  Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-07-13 18:45 +0000
    Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 21:18 +0200
    Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 13:32 -0700
      Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-07-13 21:15 +0000
        Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-13 16:22 -0500
          Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-13 16:33 -0500
            Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-07-14 00:14 +0000
              Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-13 19:46 -0500
              Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 07:30 +0200
                Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-07-14 09:03 +0000
                  Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 12:21 +0200
              Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2017-07-14 08:10 -0400
                Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-07-14 23:14 +0000
                  Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 11:04 +0200
                    Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 11:23 +0200
                      Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 13:34 +0200
                        Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-07-15 12:55 +0000
                          Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 15:18 +0200
                          Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 16:14 +0200
        Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 19:26 -0700
          Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-07-14 09:11 +0000
            Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 04:09 -0700
              Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 05:22 -0700
                Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 06:33 -0700
              Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 07:30 -0700
                Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 08:05 -0700
                  Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-14 11:50 -0500
        Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 06:43 +0200
    Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? "Dave" <dave1981@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-15 07:10 -0700
      Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 16:18 +0200
    Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 13:56 -0700
      Re: Are Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-07-15 17:16 -0700

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#640435

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:26:41 -0700, Mahipal wrote:

> 
> That's likely due to the lack of practical/engineering/need utility of such
> perpendicular orbits. What's to be gained to going to where we already well
> know that there's only nothing there?
>

There is plenty out there.  The Ulysses mission has already demonstrated that.

To give another example, asteroids that may threaten the earth are located
in highly inclined orbits, and NASA wants to send probes into polar orbits
to locate them.

> 
> An ecliptic plane has a volume of zero. It has zero depth. 
>

Just like your brains.

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#640438

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 5:12:14 AM UTC-4, F. Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:26:41 -0700, Mahipal wrote:
> 
> > That's likely due to the lack of practical/engineering/need utility of such
> > perpendicular orbits. What's to be gained to going to where we already well
> > know that there's only nothing there?
> 
> There is plenty out there.  The Ulysses mission has already demonstrated that.

Ulysses was to study the heliosphere. Again, so? What point do you want make?

> To give another example, asteroids that may threaten the earth are located
> in highly inclined orbits, and NASA wants to send probes into polar orbits
> to locate them.

Asteroids do not threaten, there just stones randomly traveling around. 
OORT cloud is considered a source of asteroids. Yes, NASA does want probe
that. It's called job security with job longevity. Been there, done that.

> > An ecliptic plane has a volume of zero. It has zero depth. 
> 
> Just like your brains.

He he... that's funny. How many brains do I have actually?
Was that your whole point? Thanks for stating the obvious.

I friend of mine, took three of us to an Iranian restaurant. Once. Ali being
of Iranian origins, decided to order all our food. Then these three bowls of
sheep/goat brain soup arrive at the table/plane. The two of us disgusted at
the sight, YUCK! Ali says: Go ahead, eat it, brain soup makes you smart.

We both instantly pushed our soup bowls to him, Ali. Simultaneously. 
Point? Well if I have to explain he needed them more than us?! Literally,
he actually ended up eating all three bowls of brains soup. We two went hungry.

Luckily, no asteroids impacted Georgetown in DC that night. We did pray/hope...

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#640441

Hi Mah,

I like you (anyone who enjoys the Moody Blues can't be all bad).
But you reply here was just dumb.

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 7:10:03 AM UTC-4, Mahipal wrote:
> On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 5:12:14 AM UTC-4, F. Russell wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:26:41 -0700, Mahipal wrote:
> > 
> > > That's likely due to the lack of practical/engineering/need utility of such
> > > perpendicular orbits. What's to be gained to going to where we already well
> > > know that there's only nothing there?
> > 
> > There is plenty out there.  The Ulysses mission has already demonstrated that.
> 
> Ulysses was to study the heliosphere. Again, so? What point do you want make?

Point was to the sun can be studied from there providing data that we could not get otherwise. and other objects orbit on planes other than the planetary plane, as in the next paragraph. Did you respond before reading the whole of
his post?
> 
> > To give another example, asteroids that may threaten the earth are located
> > in highly inclined orbits, and NASA wants to send probes into polar orbits
> > to locate them.
> 
> Asteroids do not threaten, there just stones randomly traveling around.

Some of those "stones" are bigger than your house.
 
> OORT cloud is considered a source of asteroids.

It is "A" source of asteroids and comets. Never heard
of the asteroid belt?

>  Yes, NASA does want probe
> that. It's called job security with job longevity. Been there, done that.

Common, that's the pat answer from folks that are science averse.
I don't expect such drivel from you.

> 
> > > An ecliptic plane has a volume of zero. It has zero depth. 
> > 
> > Just like your brains.

Time to also scold Russel. This is supposed to be a science
forum. Insults are not useful.
> 
> He he... that's funny. How many brains do I have actually?
> Was that your whole point? Thanks for stating the obvious.
> 
> I friend of mine, took three of us to an Iranian restaurant. Once. Ali being
> of Iranian origins, decided to order all our food. Then these three bowls of
> sheep/goat brain soup arrive at the table/plane. The two of us disgusted at
> the sight, YUCK! Ali says: Go ahead, eat it, brain soup makes you smart.
> 
> We both instantly pushed our soup bowls to him, Ali. Simultaneously. 
> Point? Well if I have to explain he needed them more than us?! Literally,
> he actually ended up eating all three bowls of brains soup. We two went hungry.

Too bad. While I have not had brain soup, I would try it at least.
You missed a great chance to taste something new. I think you may
have benefited from that soup, if only to learn if it tastes good.
I try to follow the Biblical comment "all foods are fit to be eaten".
You can taste it and say, I don't like it, but turning it down
without trying is just a lost opportunity.
> 
> Luckily, no asteroids impacted Georgetown in DC that night. We did pray/hope...

With the unstable funding NASA has suffered over the last few decades,
we all better pray for protection from a killer asteroid.

> 
> -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
> Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace.

Hope I did not scold you too hard.
have a good day.
ed

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#640444

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 8:22:43 AM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:
> Hi Mah,
> 
> I like you (anyone who enjoys the Moody Blues can't be all bad).
> But you reply here was just dumb.

I love adore The Moody Blues. I got to meet/speak with all five of them, once.
Of course you are, my brand new star... I think, I think I am, therefore I am, I think...

Well, dumb is in the eye of the beholder. I like you too Ed!
You know EdJi, you're not the only one to ever call me dumb. Life goes on.
I think it has something to do with the car I drive, clothes I wear...
Only smart people are rich, just look at TrumpET. O wait... what?!

> On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 7:10:03 AM UTC-4, Mahipal wrote:
> > On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 5:12:14 AM UTC-4, F. Russell wrote:
> > > On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:26:41 -0700, Mahipal wrote:
> > > 
> > > > That's likely due to the lack of practical/engineering/need utility of such
> > > > perpendicular orbits. What's to be gained to going to where we already well
> > > > know that there's only nothing there?
> > > 
> > > There is plenty out there.  The Ulysses mission has already demonstrated that.
> > 
> > Ulysses was to study the heliosphere. Again, so? What point do you want make?
> 
> Point was to the sun can be studied from there providing data that
> we could not get otherwise. and other objects orbit on planes other
> than the planetary plane, as in the next paragraph. Did you respond
> before reading the whole of his post?

Fine, but I was addressing the nonsense of the Solar System Plane. Plane?!

I did read the whole thread. I responded to segments where I felt I could assist.
Or mock, I forget. Do go (re)read all responses from post one, in this thread.

> > > To give another example, asteroids that may threaten the earth are located
> > > in highly inclined orbits, and NASA wants to send probes into polar orbits
> > > to locate them.
> > 
> > Asteroids do not threaten, there just stones randomly traveling around.
> 
> Some of those "stones" are bigger than your house.

Who'd a thunck it?! I lost me m(y) house in the divorce court by the laws.

> > OORT cloud is considered a source of asteroids.
> 
> It is "A" source of asteroids and comets. Never heard
> of the asteroid belt?

Sure. Please, what am I supposed to do, write everything there is in one post?!
Who the fuck in Actual Hell hasn't already heard of the asteroid belt in this NG?

> >  Yes, NASA does want probe
> > that. It's called job security with job longevity. Been there, done that.
> 
> Common, that's the pat answer from folks that are science averse.
> I don't expect such drivel from you.

I'm a EngineerScientistPhysicist, sometimes I do math. So, not science averse.

> > > > An ecliptic plane has a volume of zero. It has zero depth. 
> > > 
> > > Just like your brains.
> 
> Time to also scold Russel. This is supposed to be a science
> forum. Insults are not useful.

He he... EdJi, it is silly that we all resort to insults. I too do wonder why?

> > He he... that's funny. How many brains do I have actually?
> > Was that your whole point? Thanks for stating the obvious.
> > 
> > I friend of mine, took three of us to an Iranian restaurant. Once. Ali being
> > of Iranian origins, decided to order all our food. Then these three bowls of
> > sheep/goat brain soup arrive at the table/plane. The two of us disgusted at
> > the sight, YUCK! Ali says: Go ahead, eat it, brain soup makes you smart.
> > 
> > We both instantly pushed our soup bowls to him, Ali. Simultaneously. 
> > Point? Well if I have to explain he needed them more than us?! Literally,
> > he actually ended up eating all three bowls of brains soup. We two went hungry.
> 
> Too bad. While I have not had brain soup, I would try it at least.
> You missed a great chance to taste something new. I think you may
> have benefited from that soup, if only to learn if it tastes good.
> I try to follow the Biblical comment "all foods are fit to be eaten".
> You can taste it and say, I don't like it, but turning it down
> without trying is just a lost opportunity.

No no NO! Just one look at that bowl of brain soup, No no NO. Never!

You should've seen them bowls of brain soup. It was a whole brain with
broth around it. Remember the weird scene from Raiders of The Lost Ark,
where they serve monkey brains and eyeball soup? Yuck yuck YUCK!

As time (2017) goes on, I'm enjoying turning into a vegetarian. Once me m(y) 
Uncle, dead now, took me to go meat shopping in India. I was like thirteen. 

UncleJi's ordering food. I'm just looking around. Right there, on the floor, 
like three meters from me, there are dozens of goat heads. Just heads.
I didn't eat meat for like five years after that. Now I love Filet Mignon.

> > Luckily, no asteroids impacted Georgetown in DC that night. We did pray/hope...
> 
> With the unstable funding NASA has suffered over the last few decades,
> we all better pray for protection from a killer asteroid.

I survived in the NASA workForce for like only ten years. Incompetent I. O(y)e...
Corporate downsizing (1999) ended me m(y) SpaceTimeDREAMS. I still love Physics!

> Hope I did not scold you too hard.
> have a good day.
> ed

Hey EdJi, now and then, I love a slap to the back of my head. NCIS, Gibbs/Tony/Me...

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#640450

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 7:10:03 AM UTC-4, Mahipal wrote:

>
> The two of us disgusted at
> the sight, YUCK! Ali says: Go ahead, eat it, brain soup makes you smart.
> 

Haven't you ever heard of scrapie, kuru, or of transmissible spongiform
encephalopathies in general?

Scrapie may not be considered transmissible to humans, but it
will only take one case to rewrite all the textbooks.

Let us know if you experience loss of balance, difficulty
in walking, or loss of apatite.

Not that we care about your fate, but it's always a good laugh
to see an undisciplined Usenet troll wither and die.

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#640452

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 10:30:11 AM UTC-4, fr31...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 7:10:03 AM UTC-4, Mahipal wrote:
> 
> > The two of us disgusted at
> > the sight, YUCK! Ali says: Go ahead, eat it, brain soup makes you smart.
> 
> Haven't you ever heard of scrapie, kuru, or of transmissible spongiform
> encephalopathies in general?
> 
> Scrapie may not be considered transmissible to humans, but it
> will only take one case to rewrite all the textbooks.
> 
> Let us know if you experience loss of balance, difficulty
> in walking, or loss of apatite.

The word is appetite. Your deceit is noted. Hey look you've got 4 posts now!

> Not that we care about your fate, but it's always a good laugh
> to see an undisciplined Usenet troll wither and die.

We? Like you trolls/hyenas scare me. Bring it Bitches! So much Yawn yawn YAWN.

What have I done/said? I feel like I'm some soMe soME attention magnet! O(y)e...

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes... Enjo(y)!”   
Enjo(y)... Salute… Cheers... Open your M I N D… Time it is Is IS 3PM somePlace. 

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#640456

On 7/14/2017 10:05 AM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 10:30:11 AM UTC-4, fr31...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 7:10:03 AM UTC-4, Mahipal wrote:
>>
>>> The two of us disgusted at
>>> the sight, YUCK! Ali says: Go ahead, eat it, brain soup makes you smart.
>>
>> Haven't you ever heard of scrapie, kuru, or of transmissible spongiform
>> encephalopathies in general?
>>
>> Scrapie may not be considered transmissible to humans, but it
>> will only take one case to rewrite all the textbooks.


ugh!   ever try Scrapple ?   it is like breakfast sausage served in NE 
USA,

"Scrapple is typically made of hog offal, such as the head, heart, 
liver, and other trimmings, which are boiled with any bones attached 
(often the entire head), to make a broth. Once cooked, bones and fat are 
removed, the meat is reserved, and (dry) cornmeal is boiled in the broth 
to make a mush. The meat, finely minced, is returned to the pot and 
seasonings, typically sage, thyme, savory, black pepper, and others are 
added.[3][4] The mush is formed into loaves and allowed to cool 
thoroughly until set. The proportions and seasoning are very much a 
matter of the region and the cook's taste"


I was fed this when I was a kid, then I got wise to it. ugh!

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#640413

Dne 13/07/2017 v 23:15 F. Russell napsal(a):
> 
> AFAIK, there are no such spacecraft in orbits perpendicular to the
> ecliptic plane.  Even the Pioneer and Voyager missions, both of which
> are now far beyond the orbit of Pluto, are approximately within the
> ecliptic plane.
> 
Why even ?
Especially for these 2 missions, other choice would be foolish.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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#640619

Yes, Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane.
It is physically impossible for any object to move out of the
solar system plane no matter how much force is applied
to it.  Every object in the universe is in the solar plan,
you moron.  Adios!

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#640621

Dne 15/07/2017 v 16:10 Dave napsal(a):
> Yes, Space Flights Always Limited to the Solar System Plane.
> It is physically impossible for any object to move out of the
> solar system plane no matter how much force is applied
> to it.  Every object in the universe is in the solar plan,
> you moron.  Adios!
> 

An ignorant saying it is not possible
should not stand in the path of objects doing that.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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#640669

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 11:43:00 AM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote:
> A spacecraft launched from earth will have a velocity component equal to
> the earth's orbital velocity around the sun (30 km/sec).
> 
> To place this spacecraft in an orbit perpendicular to the plane of the
> solar system would require that this velocity component be overcome.  This
> would require a LOT of fuel and it seems that for this reason such a
> perpendicular orbit would be unfeasible.
> 
> Is this correct?  Are all spacecraft then limited practically to orbits
> that are within the plane of the solar system?
> 
> A separate question would be the reason why an orbit perpendicular to the
> solar system plane would be useful.

Earth spins at 1030 mph.To stay in orbit 200 miles up takes 15,000 mph.Such as the ISS  TreBert

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#640699

"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
<snipped Glazierola>
>
Glazier, you should have posted what you just said in 
your <http://tinyurl.com/Blog-of-2-fecal-kikes-Mar2017>
as what your wrote merely shows you to be a Face Shitter
& <http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal>.

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