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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-06-14 11:46 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-06-15 02:54 -0700 |
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CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 11:46 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-14 12:32 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 14:32 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 14:42 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 14:27 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 15:13 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:38 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:33 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-15 09:35 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 11:14 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:50 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 07:08 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 07:40 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 10:46 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 16:05 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 10:41 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-14 19:55 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 15:55 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 14:16 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 12:39 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-15 09:33 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 16:40 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-16 00:30 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 15:53 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-16 21:50 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 20:29 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 21:26 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 12:48 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:22 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 10:49 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 16:12 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 18:24 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-16 07:17 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 04:22 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:16 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 06:49 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 15:10 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-16 21:37 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-16 15:03 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:50 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-16 19:44 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 15:07 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 06:14 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-17 14:10 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 21:24 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-17 15:52 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 16:44 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-18 00:09 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-17 21:50 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 02:50 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-17 21:57 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:40 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 08:42 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 08:51 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 09:03 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-19 01:04 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:51 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-19 01:03 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-18 21:33 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:52 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-20 04:49 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 08:36 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-18 21:31 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:48 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 04:53 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 08:38 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-20 14:45 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 08:09 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 10:57 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 09:41 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 09:48 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 15:00 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-21 09:51 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 10:10 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 15:08 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 13:27 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 15:43 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-21 20:49 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-22 00:19 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-22 03:58 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:39 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:38 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 06:13 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 06:22 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 07:33 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 07:55 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-22 15:21 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 08:40 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-22 16:57 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:36 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 08:44 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:38 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:33 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 10:10 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-21 18:23 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 08:21 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:01 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-21 18:37 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 12:37 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 13:02 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-21 21:07 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 17:46 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-21 21:35 -0400
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 04:01 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 05:10 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 08:53 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:41 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 11:19 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 11:26 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 11:51 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 15:25 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 15:24 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 17:45 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 19:30 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-23 03:33 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 07:25 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 08:58 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-23 17:40 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 14:32 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 05:28 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-24 14:38 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 13:02 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-24 23:29 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 17:45 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 03:14 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-25 03:16 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 21:05 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-27 00:04 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 17:32 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-27 01:32 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-27 05:09 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 15:46 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 15:28 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 03:14 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-20 01:39 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 08:34 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:07 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 16:00 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Sегgi о <iinvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-06-14 17:40 -0500
CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 17:51 -0700
CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 20:22 -0700
CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 02:54 -0700
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 12:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oigdp4$1tbk$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637286 |
<poraty350@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 10:20:01 AM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:10:30 PM UTC+3, john wrote: >>> Y >>> Here >>> >>> http://daugerresearch.com/orbitals/index.shtml >> ================================== >> thank you john ! >> >> yet it didn't 'worm my hearth '' >> 1 >> protons and neutrons >> ARE NOT SPHERES !! >> 2 >> THEY DO NOT MOVE TOGETHER WITH THE LECTRONS >> they stay steady !! >> or at most = vibrate >> >> or else every thing was moving around us >> and under us >> even the chair we are sitting on it >> would become 'scratchy (:-) ' >> == >> >> ATB >> Y.Porat >> ======================= > who is the creator of that model ??? > = > TIA > Y.Porat > ========================== > > It's listed on the page. Read. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 12:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oigdp3$1tbk$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637281 |
<poraty350@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:10:30 PM UTC+3, john wrote: >> Y >> Here >> >> http://daugerresearch.com/orbitals/index.shtml > ================================== > thank you john ! > > yet it didn't 'worm my hearth '' > 1 > protons and neutrons > ARE NOT SPHERES !! There are no spherical protons and neutrons shown in this app. Do you know what you're looking at? > 2 > THEY DO NOT MOVE TOGETHER WITH THE LECTRONS > they stay steady !! > or at most = vibrate > > or else every thing was moving around us > and under us > even the chair we are sitting on it > would become 'scratchy (:-) ' > == > > ATB > Y.Porat > ======================= > > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 06:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <84312170-506b-4d7c-9fef-63373d685d2e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637290 |
Odd " There are no spherical protons and neutrons shown in this app. Do you know what you're looking at? " Garbage
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 06:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7e942d8a-4e6e-4e64-aa80-933cbf067b72@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637292 |
AMjohn Odd " There are no spherical protons and neutrons shown in this app. Do you know what you're looking at? " Garbage ------------ You call it garbage bc it doesn't fit in with your drug fueled (and totally wrong) view of sub atomic science. But your view, much like your thoughts, are completely irrelevant. No offense
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 07:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f3fc3506-315a-40f8-8679-3075501ac244@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637293 |
HVAC "------------ You call it garbage bc it doesn't fit in with your drug fueled (and totally wrong) view of sub atomic science. But your view, much like your thoughts, are completely irrelevant. " How's ur cancer? They got all ur money, yet?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 07:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c42dfaa1-4b03-4df2-b787-2dff948f7f78@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637297 |
HVAC Lose the Jevity. It's whey-based. Find a protein drink that's plant-based; VegaOne, or many others.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 15:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oign9e$2fd$5@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #637292 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >" >There are no spherical protons and neutrons shown in this app. Do you know >what you're looking at? " >Garbage Odd is correct. If you lived a few hundred years ago, you would have been one of those refusing to look through Galileo's telescope, saying you know there was nothing to see. And then you'd probably demand he be burned at the stake, and you'd probably start gathering firewood. So you must hate science. So why are you still hanging around sci.physics?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 08:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e86a5fc1-11c0-4efa-87e4-c6d2dfc64ccb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637303 |
MM "Odd is correct. If you lived a few hundred years ago, you would have been one of those refusing to look through Galileo's telescope, saying you know there was nothing to see. And then you'd probably demand he be burned at the stake, and you'd probably start gathering firewood. So you must hate science. So why are you still hanging around sci.physics? " MM, Odd is not correct. Present Science believes in Nothing, Suck Gravity, particles without parts, orbitals without paths, travel without wear and tear,.....fuck, MAGIC, okay? You guys are the ones that have rejected Logic and the telescope of Reason and Common Sense. "Fundamental Particles" are not only devoid of Logic, they automatically rule out investigations into smaller realms. You guys are the burn-em-at-the-stake-they-don't- believe-ers.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 16:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oigstt$4s8$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #637306 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >"Odd is correct. If you lived a few hundred years ago, you would have been one >of those refusing to look through Galileo's telescope, saying you know there >was nothing to see. And then you'd probably demand he be burned at the stake, >and you'd probably start gathering firewood. >So you must hate science. So why are you still hanging around sci.physics? " >MM, Odd is not correct. >Present Science believes in Nothing, Suck Gravity, particles without parts, >orbitals without paths, travel without wear and tear,.....fuck, MAGIC, okay? You repeatedly complain about all those things, but you *never* offer any explanation *why* they must be wrong. Science offers explanations and experiments that explain *why* certain theories are believed. You don't. And you never offer an explanation why you hang around a physics group if you hate physics. Do you go to churches and yell "There is no such thing as rising from the dead! There is no such thing as a virgin birth!!" >You guys are the ones that have rejected Logic >and the telescope of Reason and Common Sense. You are projecting. You are the ones that rejects "Atom in a Box" as "garbage" without ever looking at it. Who is the one refusing to look through the telescope? As to "Common Sense", Odd already explained to you about this. Common Sense tells us the earth is flat and stationary and the sun flies through the sky once per day. Until about 100 years ago, we humans didn't experience anything moving at near c (except for light itself) nor quantized anything, so "Common Sense" can't deal with these things. >"Fundamental Particles" are not only devoid of >Logic, they automatically rule out investigations into >smaller realms. Wrong. Scientists are constantly searching for evidence of structure. You do know there is a Nobel Prize for any of them that finds structures in electrons or other fundamental particles. >You guys are the burn-em-at-the-stake-they-don't- >believe-ers. You're projecting again. Now put down the firewood and look through the telescope.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 12:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oigv6u$s9i$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637306 |
On 6/22/17 10:40 AM, john wrote: > MM > "Odd is correct. If you lived a few hundred years ago, you would have been one > of those refusing to look through Galileo's telescope, saying you know there > was nothing to see. And then you'd probably demand he be burned at the stake, > and you'd probably start gathering firewood. > > So you must hate science. So why are you still hanging around sci.physics? " > > MM, Odd is not correct. > Present Science believes in Nothing, Suck Gravity, particles without parts, orbitals without paths, travel without wear and tear,.....fuck, MAGIC, okay? Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. > You guys are the ones that have rejected Logic > and the telescope of Reason and Common Sense. See, when you capitalize "Logic", "Reason" and "Common Sense", I know you're not talking about logic, reason, and common sense. What you're talking about are the things that John Sefton believes are true, capitalized to try to make them sound legitimate. But as you have illustrated many times, you don't know why you believe the things you do. You just do. That's why they're not logic, reason, or common sense. They're what you call Logic, Reason, and Common Sense. > > "Fundamental Particles" are not only devoid of > Logic, they automatically rule out investigations into > smaller realms. > > You guys are the burn-em-at-the-stake-they-don't- > believe-ers. > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 08:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <053fc472-86ad-4953-9924-e8507006ae43@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637303 |
Haha. You guys would STILL be crucifying Pons and Fleischmann, if they tried to tell you about their work, here.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 12:38 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oigvab$s9i$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637307 |
On 6/22/17 10:44 AM, john wrote: > Haha. > You guys would STILL be crucifying Pons and > Fleischmann, if they tried to tell you about their > work, here. > If they told it the way they told it the first time, then yes, they'd get crucified. Because the quality of their work was OBVIOUS when they were asked about it. And of course, when others tried to replicate their results, and it didn't work, Pons and Fleischmann both said, "Gee, I dunno." -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 12:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oigv0e$rju$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637292 |
On 6/22/17 8:13 AM, john wrote: > Odd > " > There are no spherical protons and neutrons shown in this app. Do you know > what you're looking at? " > > Garbage > And what is the basis for you calling it garbage, John? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 10:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3a73d53f-1bd0-4a1f-ac9e-670703392e85@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637149 |
Poor John says The point is not where the electron goes within one cycle, but the route it takes. You say there isn't one. So does Odd. I think you guys drank too much Kool Aide or something ---------------- John would you be offended if I told you that this question you ask is irrelevant? No? Well, you're ugly too
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 18:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oiedii$f2n$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #637149 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >"Did you even try the app yet? " >It's a program, Mike. >They could make the shape for different >variables anything they want. >They chose the accepted shapes. Just like you with your spinny thing cartoons. You can make it say anything you want and claim it's meaningful. Just like you have. In this case, I suggest that you check any online reviews, and/or have it checked out by actual physicists knowledgeable in the field, and see if they say it's accurate. >The point is not where the electron goes >within one cycle, but the route it takes. >You say there isn't one. >So does Odd. >I think you guys drank too much Kool Aide >or something Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle forbids a well-defined path on that scale. It simply can't exist. It shouldn't be a problem, think of the electron as a 3D standing wave. Why not read about Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle and Planck's Constant?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 08:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e7c8ec8a-1f3f-4363-b8a5-ede6892730de@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637056 |
Plus, Odd, Michael I can use any position of the atoms in CH4 that I want versus the axis of precession. Makes no difference, and the precession axis probably changes continually. WHY do you two INSIST that there be no actual rational movement of energy through 3D space? EVERYTHING you've seen in real life has to interact with its medium. Faster bullets either need to be smaller or have more power. If smaller, wind and grass blades become factors. Etc. Etc. WHAT makes you think that isn't so for electrons?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 11:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oie58d$jni$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637150 |
On 6/21/17 10:21 AM, john wrote: > Plus, Odd, Michael > I can use any position of the atoms in > CH4 that I want versus the axis of precession. > Makes no difference, and the precession axis > probably changes continually. > > WHY do you two INSIST that there be no actual > rational movement of energy through 3D space? Why do you insist that everything MUST have a trajectory? > EVERYTHING you've seen in real life has to > interact with its medium. No, that's not true. Perhaps my real life experiences are broader than yours. I'm not limiting my experiences to what happens on the surface of the earth where there is always surrounding air or water. Maybe you are. > Faster bullets either > need to be smaller or have more power. > If smaller, wind and grass blades become factors. > Etc. Etc. WHAT makes you think that isn't so for > electrons? Because there are observations that lead to Planck's constant, which you have never taken the time to learn about. Then the presence of Planck's constant PREVENTS well-defined trajectories at that level. (And in fact, what you perceive in "real life" at a macro scale only gives the approximate appearance of a well-defined trajectory, when in fact even those macro objects don't really have well-defined trajectories.) -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 18:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oieee6$f2n$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #637150 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Plus, Odd, Michael >I can use any position of the atoms in >CH4 that I want versus the axis of precession. >Makes no difference, and the precession axis >probably changes continually. John, the fact there IS an axis of precession (for the carbon, anyway) makes one direction different and special. That destroys the tetrahedral symmetry that we know methane has. This is way I knew before you even started that your quest to produce a spinny thing cartoon was doomed, at least as long as you had the central carbon precessing. >WHY do you two INSIST that there be no actual >rational movement of energy through 3D space? WHY do you INSIST that everything is made of retarded precessing spinny things? My beliefs are backed by science, such as HUP and Planck's Constant. My beliefs are nothing special, I read what's in physics books and LEARN. We just can't pin down QM objects such as an electron to a tiny defined path. HUP tells us we cannot do so. Can YOU give science supporting retarded precessing spinny things? <crickets on standby> >EVERYTHING you've seen in real life has to >interact with its medium. What medium for electrons? Are you proposing an aether? > Faster bullets either >need to be smaller or have more power. >If smaller, wind and grass blades become factors. >Etc. Etc. WHAT makes you think that isn't so for >electrons? Because there is no electron sized grass? (Again, do you suggest an aether?)
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 12:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <abb5da33-0bdd-480b-a8c1-9217aca7bd3c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637184 |
Odd " Because there is no electron sized grass? (Again, do you suggest an aether?) " You believe in Nothing. Good luck on that one.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 13:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <233874bf-b33b-43f0-9748-983375bbfa87@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637188 |
Michael Sorry, not Odd. You know there's no electron sized grass how?
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