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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-06-14 11:46 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-06-15 02:54 -0700 |
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CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 11:46 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-14 12:32 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 14:32 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 14:42 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 14:27 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 15:13 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:38 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:33 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-15 09:35 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 11:14 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:50 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 07:08 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 07:40 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 10:46 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 16:05 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 10:41 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-14 19:55 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 15:55 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 14:16 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 12:39 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-15 09:33 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 16:40 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-16 00:30 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 15:53 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-16 21:50 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 20:29 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-14 21:26 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 12:48 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:22 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 10:49 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-15 16:12 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 18:24 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-16 07:17 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 04:22 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:16 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 06:49 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 15:10 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-16 21:37 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-16 15:03 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:50 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-16 19:44 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 15:07 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 06:14 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-17 14:10 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 21:24 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-17 15:52 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-17 16:44 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-18 00:09 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-17 21:50 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 02:50 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-17 21:57 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:40 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 08:42 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 08:51 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 09:03 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-19 01:04 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:51 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-19 01:03 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-18 21:33 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:52 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-20 04:49 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 08:36 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-18 21:31 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:48 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 04:53 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 08:38 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-20 14:45 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 08:09 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 10:57 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 09:41 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 09:48 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 15:00 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-21 09:51 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 10:10 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 15:08 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 13:27 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 15:43 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-21 20:49 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-22 00:19 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-22 03:58 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:39 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:38 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 06:13 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 06:22 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 07:33 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 07:55 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-22 15:21 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 08:40 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-22 16:57 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:36 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 08:44 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:38 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:33 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 10:10 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-21 18:23 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 08:21 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:01 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-21 18:37 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 12:37 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 13:02 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-21 21:07 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 17:46 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-21 21:35 -0400
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 04:01 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 05:10 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 08:53 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 12:41 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 11:19 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 11:26 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 11:51 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 15:25 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 15:24 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 17:45 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 19:30 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-23 03:33 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 07:25 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 08:58 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-23 17:40 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 14:32 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 05:28 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-24 14:38 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 13:02 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-24 23:29 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 17:45 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 03:14 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-25 03:16 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 21:05 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-27 00:04 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 17:32 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-27 01:32 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-27 05:09 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 15:46 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 15:28 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 03:14 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-20 01:39 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 08:34 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-16 08:07 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 16:00 -0500
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CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 17:51 -0700
CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 20:22 -0700
CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 02:54 -0700
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-06-20 04:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <989e38e6-3e7e-45a1-be5e-b21e3a6727e9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #636953 |
On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 8:52:44 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 6/18/17 11:33 PM, poraty350@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 4:03:58 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote: > >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: > >> > >>> So, Odd, how do your atom-in-a-box crests and > >>> troughs lay out? Where would you say they are? > >>> Any ideas? > >> > >> Why not get the app and find out? > > ==== > > a pure nonsense physics > > waist of time and money > > ----- > > Y.Porat > > ======================= > > > > There are people who decide BEFORE learning any physics that the > materials that teach physics are nonsense. These are the people that > never learn physics. It's always the same excuse. > "Why would I spend money to learn something I don't believe?" > > My response is, "Why would you think you understand a subject you have > not learned?" > > -- > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables ===========================because I am working on it more than 50 years and much more important I found the most basic rules of physics !! for instance ========================================= NO MASS'' THE ONY MASS! - NO REAL PHYSICS !! ================================================= 2 ================================================= mass is the mother of all !! forces - including !!! gravity ===================================================== no curved space and not schmerved space !! ============================================= particle are chain of sub orbitals ================== any energy is MASS IN MOTION =============================================== HAD THERE NOT BEEN LOCATOINS OF ABSOLUTE EMPTYNESS - NO MOTION WHATSOEVER -COULOD BE DONE !! ==================================================== E =h f IS NOT THE REAL FORMULA OF THE REAL SMALLEST PHOTON ENERGY and as we saw above that no mass no real physics THE PHOTON HAS MASS NOT RELATIVISTIC AND NOT SCHMELATIVISTIC ! just mass small indeed -but mass the only mass !! =========================================== all particles are 3d structures not 2 D SMEARED ON A PAPER ------ etc etc etc Y.Porat ==========================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-20 08:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oib8dm$1gc$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637047 |
On 6/20/17 6:49 AM, poraty350@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 8:52:44 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> On 6/18/17 11:33 PM, poraty350@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 4:03:58 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote: >>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >>>> >>>>> So, Odd, how do your atom-in-a-box crests and >>>>> troughs lay out? Where would you say they are? >>>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>>> Why not get the app and find out? >>> ==== >>> a pure nonsense physics >>> waist of time and money >>> ----- >>> Y.Porat >>> ======================= >>> >> >> There are people who decide BEFORE learning any physics that the >> materials that teach physics are nonsense. These are the people that >> never learn physics. It's always the same excuse. >> "Why would I spend money to learn something I don't believe?" >> >> My response is, "Why would you think you understand a subject you have >> not learned?" >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > ===========================because I am working on it more than 50 years If you are uneducated in a subject, then working on it for 50 years is a monumental waste of time. I can tell you that someone who does not study woodworking but tinkers at it for 50 years is not going to be a competent woodworker. See number 11 on the Crackpot Index, and give yourself 10 points: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-06-18 21:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57becd65-8ab6-4c1d-b93c-ce76d60e61f7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #636834 |
On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 6:42:07 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > Odd > "...box..." > Where are the crests and troughs? > You are aware that waves have crests and > troughs? > Not just water- the Interplanetary Magnetic Field > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Heliospheric-current-sheet.gif/800px-Heliospheric-current-sheet.gif > > was one of the things that cued me towards > the image of a turning magnetic field- if you > look, there is a PATTERN of crests that is a > two-crested spiral creating the wave at the Sun > exactly as fast as needed to have it come > around and match up with itself. > Look at the picture (interpreted from data > by Voyageur- so cool) > This is a pattern of wave that is all one wave. > > So, Odd, how do your atom-in-a-box crests and > troughs lay out? Where would you say they are? > Any ideas? ===================== (:-) is that a finding of Bodkin ?? the idiot crock THIEF Bodkin (Paul Draper) think and want to teach others he is in a CONDITORY !!!!..... === Y.P ================================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-19 12:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oi92og$qbd$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #636834 |
On 6/18/17 10:42 AM, john wrote: > Odd > "...box..." > Where are the crests and troughs? > You are aware that waves have crests and > troughs? You may or may not be aware that there are lots of ways of representing standing waves, John. Quite often, they are just represented as the amplitude envelopes, so that you see where the nodes and antinodes are. http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Waves/imgwav/strhar.gif http://minerva.union.edu/newmanj/Physics100/Light%20as%20a%20Wave/standing%20wave2.JPG http://clas.mq.edu.au/speech/acoustics/frequency/resonance_files/tubes_oc.gif The ones above are in 1D. Here are some where the wave is in more than one dimension: http://rpsscience.production.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/cache/b1/b2/b1b26b97c62549fb9db135723c1e2a4f.jpg http://www2.mae.ufl.edu/~uhk/Mem4.jpg http://soi.stanford.edu/results/solarmode.gif What you're looking at in Atom in a Box is like those standing wave representations in more than one dimension. > Not just water- the Interplanetary Magnetic Field > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Heliospheric-current-sheet.gif/800px-Heliospheric-current-sheet.gif > > was one of the things that cued me towards > the image of a turning magnetic field- if you > look, there is a PATTERN of crests that is a > two-crested spiral creating the wave at the Sun > exactly as fast as needed to have it come > around and match up with itself. > Look at the picture (interpreted from data > by Voyageur- so cool) > This is a pattern of wave that is all one wave. > > So, Odd, how do your atom-in-a-box crests and > troughs lay out? Where would you say they are? > Any ideas? > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-20 04:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <93b7f5ae-307c-4fe2-bbd5-4c439a9dcc7b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #636951 |
Odd "On 6/18/17 10:42 AM, john wrote: > Odd > "...box..." > Where are the crests and troughs? > You are aware that waves have crests and > troughs? You may or may not be aware that there are lots of ways of representing standing waves, John. Quite often, they are just represented as the amplitude envelopes, so that you see where the nodes and antinodes are. http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Waves/imgwav/strhar.gif " Odd, where is the wave pattern in "Box"? Put it in.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-20 08:38 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oib8gm$1gc$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637048 |
On 6/20/17 6:53 AM, john wrote: > Odd > "On 6/18/17 10:42 AM, john wrote: >> Odd >> "...box..." >> Where are the crests and troughs? >> You are aware that waves have crests and >> troughs? > > You may or may not be aware that there are lots of ways of representing > standing waves, John. Quite often, they are just represented as the > amplitude envelopes, so that you see where the nodes and antinodes are. > > http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Waves/imgwav/strhar.gif > " > Odd, where is the wave pattern in "Box"? > Put it in. > Have you loaded the app? Have you actually looked at it, John? I ask you this because the standing wave pattern is RIGHT THERE. Choose n = 6, l = 5 and look at it. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-06-20 14:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oibcdo$4ue$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #637048 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >"On 6/18/17 10:42 AM, john wrote: >> Odd >> "...box..." >> Where are the crests and troughs? >> You are aware that waves have crests and >> troughs? >You may or may not be aware that there are lots of ways of representing >standing waves, John. Quite often, they are just represented as the >amplitude envelopes, so that you see where the nodes and antinodes are. >http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Waves/imgwav/strhar.gif >" >Odd, where is the wave pattern in "Box"? >Put it in. Did you even try the app yet?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 08:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <71733159-b6c5-47c9-bdcb-2a0ffa125a7e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637056 |
MM "Did you even try the app yet? " It's a program, Mike. They could make the shape for different variables anything they want. They chose the accepted shapes. The point is not where the electron goes within one cycle, but the route it takes. You say there isn't one. So does Odd. I think you guys drank too much Kool Aide or something
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 10:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oie50d$iv1$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637149 |
On 6/21/17 10:09 AM, john wrote: > MM > "Did you even try the app yet?" > It's a program, Mike. > They could make the shape for different > variables anything they want. > They chose the accepted shapes. > > The point is not where the electron goes > within one cycle, but the route it takes. Well, that would be an empty point if there is no route, wouldn't you agree. > You say there isn't one. > So does Odd. > I think you guys drank too much Kool Aide > or something I can't help it if you simply cannot even imagine there not being a route. This reflects the limitations of your imagination, or more properly, what you ALLOW yourself to try to imagine (which is just as limited). -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 09:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7cf8142f-818c-4082-b21c-d2eb9ed0cee1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637153 |
Odd " I can't help it if you simply cannot even imagine there not being a route. This reflects the limitations of your imagination, or more properly, what you ALLOW yourself to try to imagine (which is just as limited). " Okay, Odd. You imagine that you have a good imagination. That, you have, obviously.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 09:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0f366368-c073-453d-a7c8-141bf157149a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637157 |
You have a very good imagination, Odd. :)
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 15:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oiej8m$1am2$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637157 |
On 6/21/17 11:41 AM, john wrote: > Odd > " > > I can't help it if you simply cannot even imagine there not being a > route. This reflects the limitations of your imagination, or more > properly, what you ALLOW yourself to try to imagine (which is just as > limited). > " > > Okay, Odd. > You imagine that you have a good imagination. > That, you have, obviously. > Right, and that's an important first step. The next step is to test the imaginative idea in experiment. Lo and behold, the experimental results match. In science anyway, this is the reward for being bold with the imagination, when nature VALIDATES it in experiment. But in your case, you find wild imaginations to be somehow a contagion, something to be scorned, and an idea that seems wildly imaginative to you (regardless what experiment says) should be dismissed. So let's dismiss flat atoms and antimatter galactic arms because they are products of wild imagination that are COUNTER to experiment, shall we? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 09:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <310f5c3a-fee1-4cf8-8696-ca3f56bf2784@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637149 |
On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 6:09:39 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > MM > "Did you even try the app yet? " > It's a program, Mike. > They could make the shape for different > variables anything they want. > They chose the accepted shapes. > > The point is not where the electron goes > within one cycle, but the route it takes. > You say there isn't one. > So does Odd. > I think you guys drank too much Kool Aide > or something ======================= Johan please tell me where to find the above 'Ap and we will teach them a lesson ... Y.Porat ================================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 10:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <05c92aec-cb65-4c8a-ad5d-9805f836ea9c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637159 |
Y Here http://daugerresearch.com/orbitals/index.shtml
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 15:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oiejol$1bfq$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637162 |
On 6/21/17 12:10 PM, john wrote: > Y > Here > > http://daugerresearch.com/orbitals/index.shtml > And so have you installed it? Have you tried looking at it? Tried adjusting some parameters? You keep saying things like "there is no 3D model for the electron in your dead theory", and when a pointer is given to you for that 3D model, you turn your head and decide not to look? You keep saying things like "where is the standing wave picture of your atomic model; there isn't one!", and when a pointer is given to you that shows you that standing wave, you turn your head and decide not to look? John, it's one thing to say outright that you'd rather only look at your own model and you don't give a rat's ass about quantum mechanical models. But when you say that quantum mechanics DOESN'T HAVE a model, and you've been given the place to play with the model, but you just don't want to acknowledge it, then that's just being obstinately childish -- and it reflects on you. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 13:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <63160d54-879c-4c2c-8bf5-e2626dfda579@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637194 |
Pfft. Atom in a box is not a model. You don't even know what's in there until you look
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 15:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oielov$1eh1$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #637195 |
On 6/21/17 3:27 PM, john wrote: > Pfft. > Atom in a box is not a model. > You don't even know what's in there > until you look > John, you remind me a little of the book burners who say they don't need to open a book to know it's evil. There's also the story of when Galileo invited clergy to come look through his telescope to see the moons of Jupiter for themselves, and they came to visit but they refused to bend down and look through the telescope, insisting that they already knew there was nothing there to see. OK, John, you've made your three-monkey stance apparent: hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. There are some people who just don't want to know physics. You're one of them. So why are you here again? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-06-21 20:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oiem4i$7ts$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #637195 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Pfft. >Atom in a box is not a model. And retarded precessing spinny things is?
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 00:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ca324258-aa48-4d45-a738-6b8ab5e9301a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637162 |
On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:10:30 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > Y > Here > > http://daugerresearch.com/orbitals/index.shtml ================================== thank you john ! yet it didn't 'worm my hearth '' 1 protons and neutrons ARE NOT SPHERES !! 2 THEY DO NOT MOVE TOGETHER WITH THE LECTRONS they stay steady !! or at most = vibrate or else every thing was moving around us and under us even the chair we are sitting on it would become 'scratchy (:-) ' == ATB Y.Porat =======================
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 03:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b6235a73-f19d-4daa-9683-43828b1dd3d8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #637281 |
On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 10:20:01 AM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:10:30 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > > Y > > Here > > > > http://daugerresearch.com/orbitals/index.shtml > ================================== > thank you john ! > > yet it didn't 'worm my hearth '' > 1 > protons and neutrons > ARE NOT SPHERES !! > 2 > THEY DO NOT MOVE TOGETHER WITH THE LECTRONS > they stay steady !! > or at most = vibrate > > or else every thing was moving around us > and under us > even the chair we are sitting on it > would become 'scratchy (:-) ' > == > > ATB > Y.Porat > ======================= who is the creator of that model ??? = TIA Y.Porat ==========================
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