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  Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 14:57 -0400
    Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-02 15:05 -0700
      Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 04:52 -0700
        Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 06:29 -0700
          Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 06:56 -0700
            Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-03 15:05 +0000
              Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 08:17 -0700
                Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-03 16:11 +0000
                  Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 09:53 -0700
                    Re: Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-04 04:41 +0000
                      Re: Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 08:27 -0700
                        Re: Re: Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-04 16:43 +0000
                          Re: Re: Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 10:21 -0700
          Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 07:00 -0700
            Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-03 15:16 +0000
        Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 16:15 -0500
          Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 15:31 -0700
            Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 21:21 +0000
              Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 14:53 -0700
                Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 23:13 +0000
                  Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 16:55 -0700
                    Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 16:59 -0700
                      Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-05 09:41 -0500
                    Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-05 00:38 +0000
                      Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 19:48 -0700
                        Re: Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-05 04:18 +0000
                          Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-05 08:32 +0200
                    Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-05 09:36 -0500
        Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our galaxy’s antimatter Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 20:36 -0700

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#635333 — Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter

Odd
"You say galaxies
should ALL exhibit this radiation. "

No, Odd. YOU said that.
Fking guy can't remember anything!!!
I said that opposites REPEL.
I said they WON'T react, usually.

Odd- you have comprehension and attribution 
problems when you read. Are you dyslexic?

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#635334 — Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter

For Odd:
"In 2011 the Fermi team released its second catalog of gamma-ray sources detected by the satellite's Large Area Telescope (LAT), which produced an inventory of 1,873 objects shining with the highest-energy form of light. 57% of the sources are Blazars. Over half of the sources are active galaxies, their central black holes created gamma-ray emissions detected by the LAT. One third of the sources have not been detected in other wavelengths.[17]"

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#635382 — Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter

On 6/4/17 6:59 PM, john wrote:
> For Odd:
> "In 2011 the Fermi team released its second catalog of gamma-ray sources detected by the satellite's Large Area Telescope (LAT), which produced an inventory of 1,873 objects shining with the highest-energy form of light. 57% of the sources are Blazars. Over half of the sources are active galaxies, their central black holes created gamma-ray emissions detected by the LAT. One third of the sources have not been detected in other wavelengths.[17]"
> 

Right, there are gamma-ray sources out there that are galaxies. But the 
gamma rays that come from matter-antimatter annihilation have very 
specific energies.

The galactic gamma ray sources out there have a smooth distribution of 
energies in their spectrum, and they do NOT exhibit the strong peaks at 
those characteristic energies that would be associated with 
matter-antimatter annihilation.

Again, just so you're clear -- the signal for galactic matter-antimatter 
annihilation are SHARP PEAKS in the gamma ray energy spectrum associated 
with SPECIFIC ENERGIES expected in those processes.

Those sharp peaks are not observed.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#635336 — Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd
>"You say galaxies
>should ALL exhibit this radiation. "

>No, Odd. YOU said that.
>Fking guy can't remember anything!!!
>I said that opposites REPEL.

"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how 
smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

-Richard P. Feynman


Since experiment shows that opposites ATTRACT, you simply showed us that
all your kooky beliefs based on antimatter repelling matter are just plain
wrong!

>I said they WON'T react, usually.

Well, since it is well known that they attract each other, they'll
definitely find each other and react A LOT!

>Odd- you have comprehension and attribution 
>problems when you read. Are you dyslexic?

Well, what do we call it when you stick firmly to a belief that is 
completely contradictory to all known observation and experiment?
Are you delusional? That is a very bad sign! Much worse than simple OCD.

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#635344 — Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter

MM
"

Since experiment shows that opposites ATTRACT, you simply showed us that 
all your kooky beliefs based on antimatter repelling matter are just plain 
wrong! 
"
Does a cyclone attract or repel an anticyclone?

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#635351 — Re: Re: Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"

>Since experiment shows that opposites ATTRACT, you simply showed us that 
>all your kooky beliefs based on antimatter repelling matter are just plain 
>wrong! 
>"
>Does a cyclone attract or repel an anticyclone?

Irrelevant; electrons and positrons will attract due to their opposite
charges. Same for protons and antiprotons.

For large masses gravity will dominate. A star will attract an anti-star.

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#635357 — Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter

Dne 05/06/2017 v 06:18 Michael Moroney napsal(a):
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

> 
>> Since experiment shows that opposites ATTRACT, you simply showed us that 
>> all your kooky beliefs based on antimatter repelling matter are just plain 
>> wrong! 
>> "
>> Does a cyclone attract or repel an anticyclone?

Anticyclone is not formed from antimatter. :-)

> 
> Irrelevant; electrons and positrons will attract due to their opposite
> charges. Same for protons and antiprotons.
> 
Electrons and positrons form before annihilation to 2-5 photons
a charge symmetric atom-like structure positronium,
similar what an atom of hydrogen would have been like
if a proton had been as light as electron.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positronium


-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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#635381 — Re: Merging white dwarfs may create most of our gala xy’s antimatter

On 6/4/17 6:55 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "You say galaxies
> should ALL exhibit this radiation. "
> 
> No, Odd. YOU said that.
> Fking guy can't remember anything!!!
> I said that opposites REPEL.
> I said they WON'T react, usually.

Two things
1. Matter and antimatter are observed to ATTRACT, not to repel. This is 
an actual observation.

2. Say you have a galaxy with four arms, and you would say that the arms 
are M, AM, M, AM and that the arms repel each other. But ALL arms of a 
spiral galaxy are in CONTACT with the galactic core. If the galactic 
core is M, then you have two AM arms in contact with it. If the galactic 
core is AM, then you have two M arms in contact with it. Where are the 
annihilation gammas from every single four-armed galaxy out there?

Repeat this exercise with 2-armed galaxies, which you say are M and AM.

Repeat this exercise with 6-armed galaxies, which you say are M, AM, M, 
AM, M, AM.

> 
> Odd- you have comprehension and attribution
> problems when you read. Are you dyslexic?
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#635348

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 7:52:12 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> Of course, when I suggested that
> galaxies are half antimatter,
> Odd asked where all the signs of
> positron/electron annihilation are- there
> should be some if opposite arms are
> beside each other:
> Obvious that he didn't know about this:
> "More than four decades ago, astronomers discovered the
> first gamma-ray emission coming from outside the solar
> system. This high-energy signal is associated with the
> destruction of roughly 1043 positrons — a type of
> antimatter — each second. Despite extensive follow-up,
> astronomers today are still looking for the exact source
> (or sources) of this emission, which could run the gamut
> from mundane (natural processes in a star’s life) to
> exotic (dark matter) origins. Recently, a group of
> astronomers has determined that positrons resulting
> from white dwarf mergers could contribute significantly
> to the signal we see."

John, I'm sure Odd will appreciate the help. You managed
 to quote evidence against your own theory. Kudos!

Ed

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