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  HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 20:01 -0500
    Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-09 21:42 -0600
      Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 23:47 -0800
        Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:48 -0800
          Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 09:03 -0800
            Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 10:40 -0800
            Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 14:02 -0500
              Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 11:57 -0800
      Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 21:20 -0800
        Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 00:53 -0500
        Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-11 07:08 +0000
          Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:02 -0800
          Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:03 -0800
            Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-11 19:21 +0000
              Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:58 -0800
              Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 20:24 -0800
                Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 23:37 -0500
                  Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-03-12 14:42 -0800
                    Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 18:16 -0500
                    Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 15:48 -0800
                      Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 16:52 -0800
                        Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 23:11 -0500
                        Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 20:28 -0800
                          Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 20:49 -0800
                            Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 04:38 -0400
                            Re: HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 06:55 -0700

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#560983 — HVAC is a reptilian Martian taking over the minds of USENET readers

I just saw it on TV so it MUST be true.

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#561002

On 3/9/2016 7:01 PM, benj wrote:
>
> I just saw it on TV so it MUST be true.
>

that does explain a lot that has been happening around here, he is the 
monitor of the newsgroup (monitor lizard ?)

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#561078

I KNEW IT!!!

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#561158

MAKES TOTAL SENSE!!!
Thank you

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#561164

John
MAKES TOTAL SENSE!!! 
Thank you 
-------------

John, Serge is 100% wrong. I have no desire to control anyone's mind.

You have my word on that.

It occurs to me that there are many kooks here who are used to more 'gentle' treatment. Well, you get plenty of gentle treatment. Do you really want more? No. It gets boring. 

I provide the harsh light of reality that intrudes upon your safe space. I provide the drill sargent attitude of logical and disciplined thought to the chaotic mind of the kook.

You're welcome bitches

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#561205

HVAC is an alien!!
Makes perfect sense!!!

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#561220

On 03/10/2016 12:03 PM, HVAC wrote:
> John MAKES TOTAL SENSE!!! Thank you -------------
>
> John, Serge is 100% wrong. I have no desire to control anyone's
> mind.
>
> You have my word on that.

The word of HVAC is worth exactly NOTHING.

> It occurs to me that there are many kooks here who are used to more
> 'gentle' treatment. Well, you get plenty of gentle treatment. Do you
> really want more? No. It gets boring.
>
> I provide the harsh light of reality that intrudes upon your safe
> space. I provide the drill sargent attitude of logical and
> disciplined thought to the chaotic mind of the kook.
>
> You're welcome bitches

HVAC is such a big man and leader of humanity...in his own mind.

But he's such a coward he's afraid to use his own name. He's the head 
kook around here. Dance kook dance!

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#561236

BJ quacked
> You have my word on that. 

The word of HVAC is worth exactly NOTHING. 

HVAC is such a big man and leader of humanity...in his own mind. 
-----------

BJ is so easy to wind up...

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#561406

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 7:42:29 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
> On 3/9/2016 7:01 PM, benj wrote:
> >
> > I just saw it on TV so it MUST be true.
> >
> 
> that does explain a lot that has been happening around here, he is the 
> monitor of the newsgroup (monitor lizard?)

  "Monitor lizard"- not bad.

  I've never understood why anyone still hangs on to the creaky old SF tropes of extraterrestrials that resemble Earthly lifeforms. Shallow minds, I suppose.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#561417

On 03/11/2016 12:20 AM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 7:42:29 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
>> On 3/9/2016 7:01 PM, benj wrote:
>>>
>>> I just saw it on TV so it MUST be true.
>>>
>>
>> that does explain a lot that has been happening around here, he is
>> the monitor of the newsgroup (monitor lizard?)
>
> "Monitor lizard"- not bad.
>
> I've never understood why anyone still hangs on to the creaky old SF
> tropes of extraterrestrials that resemble Earthly lifeforms. Shallow
> minds, I suppose.

Not all. I dumped some chemicals and there was this reaction and this 
big foamy thing rose up that looked just like the blob! I got away though.

Humanoid extraterrestrials makes a lot of sense though. John worries 
about how many fingers they have but that is irrelevant since one has to 
ask if they look like the blob just how do they operate the controls on 
their ships. Takes a whole new (alien) way of thinking about driving.

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#561506

nuny@bid.nes <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 7:42:29 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
>> On 3/9/2016 7:01 PM, benj wrote:
>> >
>> > I just saw it on TV so it MUST be true.
>> >
>> 
>> that does explain a lot that has been happening around here, he is the 
>> monitor of the newsgroup (monitor lizard?)
> 
>   "Monitor lizard"- not bad.
> 
>   I've never understood why anyone still hangs on to the creaky old SF
> tropes of extraterrestrials that resemble Earthly lifeforms. Shallow
> minds, I suppose.

You mean like the multi-trunked alien elephants of Niven and Pournelle?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#561526

Wow!
Lizards and multi-coloured-trunked 
elephants!!
You guys think OUTSIDE THE BOX 

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#561556

ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
- show quoted text -
You mean like the multi-trunked alien elephants of Niven and Pournelle? 
-----------

Oh shit! I remember reading that book. Was it The Mote In God's Eye?

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#561648

HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
> - show quoted text -
> You mean like the multi-trunked alien elephants of Niven and Pournelle? 
> -----------
> 
> Oh shit! I remember reading that book. Was it The Mote In God's Eye?

Footfall.

At least Niven and Pournelle got around the problem of how elephants
could develop technology without hands by having them inherit it from
a race that killed themselves off and carved their knowledge into stone.

Of course that left unanswered the question of why an advanced civilization
would be using stone blocks as an information storage medium.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#561660

Footfall. 
----------

Ya. I read that long ago.


At least Niven and Pournelle got around the problem of how elephants 
could develop technology without hands by having them inherit it from 
a race that killed themselves off and carved their knowledge into stone. 

Of course that left unanswered the question of why an advanced civilization 
would be using stone blocks as an information storage medium. 
-- 
Jim Pennino 
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I still remember the cover art... A miniature elephant with what looks like a rifle of some sort in his trunk and it seems like he was hiding behind a wagon, looking at a farmhouse

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#561803

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 11:31:06 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
> > - show quoted text -
> > You mean like the multi-trunked alien elephants of Niven and Pournelle? 

  Yeah, those too.

  Niven is also "guilty" of his tigerish Kzinti, but most of his other aliens don't really resemble Earth life all that much- unless you count stage trees as being too much like palm trees. Protectors don't count, of course...

> > Oh shit! I remember reading that book. Was it The Mote In God's Eye?

  The aliens in TMIGE were very roughly humanoid, but they were also bilaterally asymmetrical, which you don't see much in SF.

> Footfall.
> 
> At least Niven and Pournelle got around the problem of how elephants
> could develop technology without hands by having them inherit it from
> a race that killed themselves off and carved their knowledge into stone.

  They did have hands, of a sort. Their trunks branched out at the ends into prehensile finger-ish tentacles. They used the information encoded in the stones because they weren't very inventive on their own.

> Of course that left unanswered the question of why an advanced civilization
> would be using stone blocks as an information storage medium.

  IIRC the stone blocks were the advanced aliens' idea of the ultimate fail-safe long-term storage medium.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#561804

On 03/11/2016 11:24 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 11:31:06 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>> - show quoted text -
>>> You mean like the multi-trunked alien elephants of Niven and Pournelle?
>
>    Yeah, those too.
>
>    Niven is also "guilty" of his tigerish Kzinti, but most of his other aliens don't really resemble Earth life all that much- unless you count stage trees as being too much like palm trees. Protectors don't count, of course...
>
>>> Oh shit! I remember reading that book. Was it The Mote In God's Eye?
>
>    The aliens in TMIGE were very roughly humanoid, but they were also bilaterally asymmetrical, which you don't see much in SF.
>
>> Footfall.
>>
>> At least Niven and Pournelle got around the problem of how elephants
>> could develop technology without hands by having them inherit it from
>> a race that killed themselves off and carved their knowledge into stone.
>
>    They did have hands, of a sort. Their trunks branched out at the ends into prehensile finger-ish tentacles. They used the information encoded in the stones because they weren't very inventive on their own.
>
>> Of course that left unanswered the question of why an advanced civilization
>> would be using stone blocks as an information storage medium.
>
>    IIRC the stone blocks were the advanced aliens' idea of the ultimate fail-safe long-term storage medium.

A friend of mine and I have discussed how to solve the problem of 
longterm data storage and backup. Historically stone blocks and 
cuneiform clay tablets seem to have worked quite well. Data density is a 
bit low, though.

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#561967

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 8:37:40 PM UTC-8, benj wrote:
> On 03/11/2016 11:24 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 11:31:06 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
> >>> - show quoted text -
> >>> You mean like the multi-trunked alien elephants of Niven and Pournelle?
> >
> >    Yeah, those too.
> >
> >    Niven is also "guilty" of his tigerish Kzinti, but most of his other aliens don't really resemble Earth life all that much- unless you count stage trees as being too much like palm trees. Protectors don't count, of course...
> >
> >>> Oh shit! I remember reading that book. Was it The Mote In God's Eye?
> >
> >    The aliens in TMIGE were very roughly humanoid, but they were also bilaterally asymmetrical, which you don't see much in SF.
> >
> >> Footfall.
> >>
> >> At least Niven and Pournelle got around the problem of how elephants
> >> could develop technology without hands by having them inherit it from
> >> a race that killed themselves off and carved their knowledge into stone.
> >
> >    They did have hands, of a sort. Their trunks branched out at the ends into prehensile finger-ish tentacles. They used the information encoded in the stones because they weren't very inventive on their own.
> >
> >> Of course that left unanswered the question of why an advanced civilization
> >> would be using stone blocks as an information storage medium.
> >
> >    IIRC the stone blocks were the advanced aliens' idea of the ultimate fail-safe long-term storage medium.
> 
> A friend of mine and I have discussed how to solve the problem of 
> longterm data storage and backup. Historically stone blocks and 
> cuneiform clay tablets seem to have worked quite well. Data density is a 
> bit low, though.


A great idea in principle.  All you need is a greater supply of clay!

Double-A

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#561977

On 03/12/2016 05:42 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 8:37:40 PM UTC-8, benj wrote:
>> On 03/11/2016 11:24 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
>>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 11:31:06 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>>>> - show quoted text -
>>>>> You mean like the multi-trunked alien elephants of Niven and Pournelle?
>>>
>>>     Yeah, those too.
>>>
>>>     Niven is also "guilty" of his tigerish Kzinti, but most of his other aliens don't really resemble Earth life all that much- unless you count stage trees as being too much like palm trees. Protectors don't count, of course...
>>>
>>>>> Oh shit! I remember reading that book. Was it The Mote In God's Eye?
>>>
>>>     The aliens in TMIGE were very roughly humanoid, but they were also bilaterally asymmetrical, which you don't see much in SF.
>>>
>>>> Footfall.
>>>>
>>>> At least Niven and Pournelle got around the problem of how elephants
>>>> could develop technology without hands by having them inherit it from
>>>> a race that killed themselves off and carved their knowledge into stone.
>>>
>>>     They did have hands, of a sort. Their trunks branched out at the ends into prehensile finger-ish tentacles. They used the information encoded in the stones because they weren't very inventive on their own.
>>>
>>>> Of course that left unanswered the question of why an advanced civilization
>>>> would be using stone blocks as an information storage medium.
>>>
>>>     IIRC the stone blocks were the advanced aliens' idea of the ultimate fail-safe long-term storage medium.
>>
>> A friend of mine and I have discussed how to solve the problem of
>> longterm data storage and backup. Historically stone blocks and
>> cuneiform clay tablets seem to have worked quite well. Data density is a
>> bit low, though.
>
>
> A great idea in principle.  All you need is a greater supply of clay!
>
> Double-A

Actually the "stone" BluRay disks are quite promising. I certainly hope 
for better than the dye versions which I have myself proved are shit.
Verbatim doesn't seem ready to promise anything yet, however.
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#561985

Marcel Homet
20,000 year old petroglyphs
Brazil

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