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| First post | 2017-04-23 09:35 -0700 |
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Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 09:35 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:06 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:08 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 11:51 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 00:48 -0400
Re: CH4 for Odd benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 00:42 -0400
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 02:11 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-24 16:06 -0400
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 06:46 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 06:39 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 07:04 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-26 20:24 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 15:40 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-27 02:22 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 21:30 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-27 20:22 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 13:51 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-28 02:31 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 15:43 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 19:43 -0400
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-29 20:38 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 06:10 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-30 14:29 +0000
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Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-01 15:40 +0000
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Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-01 16:04 +0000
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Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 13:02 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 16:02 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-02 01:34 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 23:14 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 23:52 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-02 14:18 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 07:29 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 09:59 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 10:46 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 12:41 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 08:46 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 12:21 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 11:42 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-04 21:06 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 18:40 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 03:06 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:12 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-06 15:36 +0000
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Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 06:11 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 06:46 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 14:59 +0000
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Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 19:56 +0000
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Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:11 +0000
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Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 09:26 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 06:01 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 17:02 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:15 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 19:26 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:15 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:07 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-13 23:34 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 19:29 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 02:39 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-15 21:27 -0400
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 07:57 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-15 15:49 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 09:26 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 11:50 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 17:54 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:29 -0500
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Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:47 -0500
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Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 14:07 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 06:31 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 08:52 -0500
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Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 08:54 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 10:59 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 15:59 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 13:00 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-17 19:22 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 15:15 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-18 13:57 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 08:17 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-18 17:14 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 10:50 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-19 01:09 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 21:59 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 11:00 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 12:49 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 16:11 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 16:32 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 18:16 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 22:03 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-19 06:14 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 10:05 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 13:21 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 16:34 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 07:47 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 05:55 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 08:26 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 06:33 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 08:43 -0500
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Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 11:59 -0500
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Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:18 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 10:23 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 10:36 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:41 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 11:37 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 10:47 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-20 01:59 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 20:02 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 11:28 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 11:43 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 12:53 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 12:15 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 12:49 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 21:15 -0400
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-21 00:49 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 20:40 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 14:01 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:06 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 10:14 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-21 00:53 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 07:27 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:12 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 11:37 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-21 12:19 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 12:33 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-21 13:07 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:54 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 19:48 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-21 15:06 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 19:51 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 11:26 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-21 22:56 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 19:54 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 04:12 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 08:17 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-22 17:54 +0000
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 12:30 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 11:19 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-23 02:05 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 05:03 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 09:41 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 07:12 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 09:34 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 06:47 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:01 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 10:20 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 08:23 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 12:52 -0700
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Re: CH4 for Odd john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 15:50 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 16:06 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 11:41 -0500
Re: CH4 for Odd James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 19:29 -0700
Re: CH4 for Odd moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 14:54 +0000
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-19 08:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e44baa5d-457e-4320-b4bb-b858f50f6238@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #633802 |
You see, as soon as you contemplate Fractal atoms,you get to Fractal life, which my spellcheck seems to think is worthy of capitalizing. Then you figure how many of THEIR lifetimes you have lived (10^-16 sec = 225 million years). Then you reason: if there IS an answer, one of those suckers will have figured it out by now. Then you leave it to Him/Her/It. :)
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-19 12:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ofn8dm$1n5u$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #633800 |
On 5/19/17 9:03 AM, john wrote: > Science has to be both inductive and deductive. > If I show that a light wave is waving here, I > do not have to prove that it is waving there. > Electrons do not have to be shown to have > structure, physically, that can be inferred, > as well as for other "point" phenomena. > Get ur heads out of ur John, an inference has to come some basis other than a driving overall assumption. You do not INFER from any observations that the electron has structure. Instead, you ASSUME from the outset that all things have structure, and therefore the electron has structure. You have inferred nothing except adherence to your ASSUMPTION. This is not how scientists work or think. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-19 10:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e551f963-f483-4224-adba-955af4797c01@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #633808 |
On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 10:01:47 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 5/19/17 9:03 AM, john wrote: > > Science has to be both inductive and deductive. > > If I show that a light wave is waving here, I > > do not have to prove that it is waving there. > > Electrons do not have to be shown to have > > structure, physically, that can be inferred, > > as well as for other "point" phenomena. > > Get ur heads out of ur > > John, an inference has to come some basis other than a driving overall > assumption. You do not INFER from any observations that the electron has > structure. Instead, you ASSUME from the outset that all things have > structure, Right. It's an assumption. It's nothing to be afraid of, you small minded nitwit. and therefore the electron has structure. You have inferred > nothing except adherence to your ASSUMPTION. > > This is not how scientists work or think. > > -- > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-19 08:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ofmrl8$u7v$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #633784 |
On 5/19/17 7:55 AM, john wrote: > Odd > "On 5/18/17 6:34 PM, john wrote: >> The stupid ones let themselves be programmed. >> > > Then there are those that are a little unclear about the difference > between knowledge and programming. Better to just suspect it's all > programming and doubt " > > QMers need to do a little doubting. Hmmm. Doubt for doubt's sake? Or because it goes against intuition? What if the intuition is wrong? Why should we give intuition priority? Hey, I have an idea, let's rely on objective information to help decide what should be doubted and what should be taken as demonstrably true. Let's see.... what kind of objective information might be used here. Hmmmm. Maybe.... just maybe ..... some kind of quantitative measurements? > Camel. Eye of a needle. > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-18 12:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2fa22c11-ee96-4ab4-8005-e6a4ef4bae20@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #633668 |
On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 6:57:03 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: > > > MM > >" > > >My God. How completely, totally wrong! " > > >What have you made? > >Got picture? > > You just don't get it, do you? The purpose of science You are just a dumbass without an argument. Why do you geezers think anybody cares about your opinion of science. If you have a scientific argument present it. Otherwise keep your mouth shut. isn't to be > "beautiful" but to be able to model how nature works. In many cases, > so that we can take advantage of being able to model it to create > technology using the models. > > You didn't even have a model before starting to create your cartoon, > so you had to restart your guesswork a few times, and even now you > select for "beautiful" rather than "working". Thus, "totally wrong!" LOL. Present an on topic argument or go fuck yourself. Your opinion is worthless. > > I develop software for a living, software you'll rarely encounter > directly. "Picture" isn't exactly relevant, but of you insist, go > find a source listing of computer software.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-18 13:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <70c26f33-e44c-48fa-861e-0e08f0441f75@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #633563 |
On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 12:22:47 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: > > >Odd > >"In science, I wouldn't be making things on the basis of beauty or > >ugliness at all. It's not the right standard for science at all. > >" > >Well alls I know is I chose an order and went to 34 frames and it was ugly > >and then it didn't work, and then I laid it out on paper and took the first > >one that worked, and went to 37 frames and it was also ugly, and then I > >went back and tried more examples on the paper until I found the best one, > >and now I'm at 46 frames and it's been beautiful the whole way. > >I'm stoked! > > My God. How completely, totally wrong! Present an argument, you mental retard.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-18 15:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7dbc7f0d-8618-4ce8-83cc-c1cb34ab72ef@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #633710 |
James "Present an argument.." He does sotware
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-18 16:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <56abbbb5-6908-4303-8a3b-da66dec09ab7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #633739 |
On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 3:50:10 PM UTC-7, john wrote: > James > "Present an argument.." > > He does sotware Oh, that's right. Engineers have books. Truth is something that can always be referenced. No need to think. Science is so easy for an engineer they can't imagine why scientists go through all the trouble. I imagine that's how a dog feels when he sees his owner working on the car.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-15 11:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ofclnd$nla$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #633300 |
On 5/15/17 11:26 AM, john wrote: > Got it right now. > Very attractive, coordinated evolution. > You think that's anti- whatever it is that > you represent, Odd? > No, John. You're discussing the result. I was talking about how you get there. Trial and error is a hell of a way to do science. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-13 19:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bfa587a0-44ae-4e75-949a-41aed2ad6e59@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #632460 |
On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 3:09:23 PM UTC-7, john wrote: > MM > "I have offered you (and others) many pointers and suggestions over the > years to try to help you out, but no, you were always too stubborn to " > > And you think you know....what, exactly? John, these idiots know only to do a intenet search, and if what you are suggesting isn't there that is their whole argument. They don't think. They are just bots.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-05-08 14:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oeq0rm$r94$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #632337 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >It's just a pathway one step up from >a circle. >It uses a 1:2 ratio of right-angled >spins. But that produces a 3d spiral, not a sphere, which you yourself showed because you made cartoons of it. >Anyway, 34 out of 128 frames completed. >It'll be interesting All without any model.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 14:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oea4aa$q2i$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #631689 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >"All without a model...) >Can YOU picture the model YOU believe in? >(Yes, I know you didn't conceive of it.) https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/88dc54b80c8dbf05e7091dbadf02dd653ec77d0d
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 03:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <68f39574-461c-442b-bc04-768ec21441e7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631655 |
Poor John says Odd "Time to put on your big-girl panties. - show quoted text -" Sure, as soon as I finish this animation. ---------- Cartoon
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 13:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oeakda$8aq$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #631655 |
On 5/1/17 6:02 PM, john wrote: > Odd > "Time to put on your big-girl panties. > - show quoted text -" > Sure, as soon as I finish this animation. > It's going swimmingly, now that I have > the correct points to work from. The points I gave you, after you made a mistake for a few days. > (1,1,1) (-1,-1,1) > (-1,1,-1)(1,-1,-1) > Giving a really visual feel for why > things work tetrahedrally > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-01 10:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ad8c2033-9151-42ba-b542-9c85427613d9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631562 |
On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 11:23:11 AM UTC-4, john wrote: > Odd > "On 4/30/17 12:06 PM, john wrote: > > Mm > > Where's your "good physical description "? > > > > He just gave it to you. I appreciate that it's Greek to you, because you > never bothered to understand what things like that mean. It's JUST A > LANGUAGE, John. Are you afraid to learn a language? > " > > Draw it. > Picture it. > If that math means anything. > EVEN a "fine man's drawing ". > ANYTHING, Odd. > > If the language doesn't translate, it's gibberish it is just one of the forms of Schrodinger's Equation. My math is rusty, but they all basically say: the kinetic energy plus the potential energy = total energy. Now you do have to solve this based on the boundary conditions of the particular problem you want to solve. I admit, I haven't done this for over 40 years. So someone else will have to set up the equation for CH4. (nowadays they do these calculations for complex proteins to determine shape. The shape of a protein determines how it reacts in the body.) ed
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-05-01 15:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oe7l4f$4nr$4@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #631371 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Mm >Where's your "good physical description "? That math will generate a physical description to as much accuracy as you wish. If you don't want to deal with that math, the solutions to the Schrodinger wave equations are well known, you can find pretty graphics of them all over the net.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-01 08:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oe7dh6$msg$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #631357 |
On 4/30/17 8:10 AM, john wrote: > Give me a good physical description of > YOUR model, you twat Atom in a Box, John. That's a good physical model. If it's not what you thought a good physical model should be, start talking about the features of a good physical model that Atom in a Box lacks. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 07:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a3381a5e-7a51-4e3e-9ada-df79d77638ed@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #631284 |
Michael Moroney john <johnse...@gmail.com> writes: >MM >Well, my model for the electron is >a spinning vortex, If your "model" doesn't have the math or at least a good physical description of what does what and how, it's not a model. So apparently you are just guessing and hoping that something appears to "work". >So. >What was the question? How are you going to come up with your .GIF of retarded precessing spinny things that supposedly explains methane, if you don't even have a model for it? -------------- John just draws his cartoons and figures that's good enough
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-26 09:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <98d70835-d3d1-4d47-b723-6bd4e4c33d4f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #630450 |
BJ quacked > Project much, Satan worshiper? Why would someone worship and pray to some "being" that is supposedly the source of all evil and suffering? ------------ Your 'god' is the source of evil and suffering. The Noah's Ark story. Your 'god', He whom you adore and pray to, killed every baby, every kitten and every puppy on the planet. That's mercy In the story of Abraham and Isaac, god played a trick on old Abe when he told him to go stab his son. Just as he was about to, god told him it was just a mind fuck. That's compassion Then there's the story of Job. That reads like a horror story. And I won't even go into how god totally screwed over his own son and abandoned him to his fate, dying on the cross. Lucifer and a few of his friends saw how poorly god was treating humanity so they rebelled. Lucifer must have been an American at heart.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-26 12:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4f9ee466-8526-41ff-957d-9f951dad9ff8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #630744 |
Good luck, HVAC
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