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  Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 18:28 -0700
    Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-23 20:56 -0500
    Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 18:57 -0700
      Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 19:35 -0700
        Re: Breakthroughs pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 19:49 -0700
          Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 20:14 -0700
          Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-24 14:52 +0000
            Re: Breakthroughs noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 10:19 -0700
        Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 22:32 -0700
    Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 02:14 -0400
      Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 04:59 -0700
        Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 14:18 -0400
          Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 11:41 -0700
            Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-25 17:07 -0400
    Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 07:40 -0500
      Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 05:46 -0700
        Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-24 14:53 +0000
          Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 08:15 -0700
      Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 07:03 -0700
        Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 07:15 -0700
        Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 09:24 -0500
          Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 09:29 -0500
          Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-24 18:03 -0400
            Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 07:11 -0700
              Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-25 11:26 -0500
                Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 10:11 -0700
              Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 14:06 -0500
                Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 12:52 -0700
                  Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 13:09 -0700
                    Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-25 17:15 -0400
                      Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 14:20 -0700
                        Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 14:28 -0700
                          Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-25 23:12 +0000
                            Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-25 19:54 -0400
                              Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 17:11 -0700
                                Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-25 20:16 -0400
                                  Re: Breakthroughs jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-03-26 01:15 +0000
                                  Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 03:03 -0700
                                    Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 00:51 -0400
                                  Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 03:03 -0700
                                    Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 00:50 -0400
                            Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 22:49 -0700
                            Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 07:37 -0700
                              Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-26 23:52 +0000
                                Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 17:31 -0700
                                  Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 17:40 -0700
                                    Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 00:38 -0400
                                  Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-26 19:40 -0500
                                    Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 18:32 -0700
                                      Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-26 20:54 -0500
                                        Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 19:18 -0700
                                      Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-26 23:03 -0700
                                      Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-26 23:07 -0700
                                  Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-27 04:56 +0000
                                    Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 01:10 -0400
                                    Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-26 23:16 -0700
                              Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-26 23:00 -0700
                              Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 07:52 -0500
                                Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 05:59 -0700
                                  Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 08:03 -0500
                                    Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 05:26 -0700
                                  Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-27 13:19 +0000
                                    Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 07:48 -0700
                                      Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 08:02 -0700
                                        Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-27 17:06 -0400
                                          Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 17:32 -0700
                                            Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-27 21:14 -0400
                                              Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 05:09 -0700
                                                Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 05:19 -0700
                                                  Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 13:26 +0000
                                                    Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 07:21 -0700
                                                      Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 11:08 -0500
                                                      Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-28 11:40 -0500
                                                      Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 20:23 +0000
                                                  Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 07:43 -0700
                                                    Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 16:06 -0400
                                                    Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 20:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 15:55 -0400
                                                Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 15:54 -0400
                                      Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 10:09 -0500
                                        Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 09:42 -0700
                                          Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 11:52 -0500
                                          Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 11:54 -0500
                                          Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 12:09 -0500
                                            Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 05:37 -0700
                                          Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-27 17:41 +0000
                                            Re: Breakthroughs noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 14:38 -0700
                                        Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 05:31 -0700
                                    Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 05:29 -0700
                                  Re: Breakthroughs noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 08:25 -0700
                          Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 07:50 -0500
                            Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-27 17:04 -0400
                            Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 05:23 -0700
                        Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 07:48 -0500
                  Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 16:18 -0500
                  Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-25 23:06 +0000
                    Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-25 19:48 -0400
                      Re: Breakthroughs noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 20:17 -0700
        Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-24 14:59 +0000
          Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 10:03 -0500
            Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 08:18 -0700
        Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 08:13 -0700
          Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-24 14:29 -0500
            Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 22:40 -0700
    Re: Breakthroughs The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-24 11:05 -0800
      Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 12:10 -0700
    Re: Breakthroughs gmbr3359@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 23:18 -0700
      Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-26 03:36 -0700
        Re: Breakthroughs noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 09:27 -0700

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#625282

On 03/26/2017 06:03 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> Trolling lies and ad hominem as Chimp would say!
> ------------
>
> Just like you. Not an original thought in that fugly thing perched atop your shoulders that you call a head.
>
>
> HVAC knows the moon landings were fake, folks. His paid job is to attack
> and ridicule anyone who brings up the truth. He's a paid professional liar.
> -----------
>
> There there, lil BJ. Don't get yer panties in a twist.
>
Oh, do you think I'm "mad" again? Hope your mental aberrations aren't 
too disappointed to learn you've failed once again. Sure you are a paid 
professional liar, but obviously you have mistaken me for someone who 
gives a crap that you are.

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#625137

On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 2:12:34 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >I had a wonderful science book
> >back in Grade 4
> >that gave plans to build a
> >boomerang.
> >Gary M. was still looking the direction I threw
> >it when it hit him in the back of the head.
> >They took away my boomerang like they
> >took away my marble board.
> >Not all pushes go in straight lines, Odd.
> 
> A boomerang operates 100% via aerodynamics, like airplane wings.
> Try throwing a boomerang in a vacuum, like on the moon, and see what
> happens.
> 
> I explained that to you before, yet you didn't learn.
> 
> (it would have been a cool Apollo moon landing demonstration, like the
> feather/hammer drop and the golf ball, to have thrown a boomerang on one
> of the missions)
==========================
see
 'the   y Circlon   mechanism' 
based on a new(not for me) sub particle 

THAT MOVES NATURALLY IN A CURVEWD PATH 
------
ATB
Y.Porat
============================ 

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#625170

MM
"A boomerang operates 100% via aerodynamics, like airplane wings. 
Try throwing a boomerang in a vacuum, like on the moon, and see what 
happens. 
"
Cosmic rays do not travel straight.

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#625227

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"A boomerang operates 100% via aerodynamics, like airplane wings. 
>Try throwing a boomerang in a vacuum, like on the moon, and see what 
>happens. 
>"
>Cosmic rays do not travel straight.

We were talking about boomerangs abd before that, electric forces, not
cosmic rays.  Why are you so evasive by keeping changing the subject
away from how can the glass rod charged with electricity attract the 
charged ping pong ball?

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#625238

MM
If Cosmic Rays and boomerangs don't go
straight, then a push can act as a pull.

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#625240

Poor John says
If Cosmic Rays and boomerangs don't go 
straight, then a push can act as a pull. 
-------------

John that is seriously weak

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#625279

On 03/26/2017 08:40 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Poor John says
> If Cosmic Rays and boomerangs don't go
> straight, then a push can act as a pull.
> -------------
>
> John that is seriously weak
>
John makes perfect sense to anyone with even a high school knowledge of 
science. Obviously that excludes all journalist types like you and 
Starfaker.

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#625241

On 3/26/2017 7:31 PM, john wrote:
> MM
> If Cosmic Rays and boomerangs don't go
> straight, then a push can act as a pull.
>

if you push on a wet noodle it dosen't act like a pull wet noodle

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#625253

We know that Cosmic Waves curve.
That is all that is necessary
to say a push can come around from behind.

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#625257

On 3/26/2017 8:32 PM, john wrote:
> We know that Cosmic Waves curve.
> That is all that is necessary
> to say a push can come around from behind.
>

1. Cosmic Waves Curve => Push comes from behind.




The Inverse (must be true):

2. Cosmic Waves do not curve => Push does not come from behind => Push 
must come from front.

3. If Push comes from Front => Pull must come from behind.

4. If you Pull your behind up front, it will create Cosmic Waves.

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#625261

Serg 
stfu
Or discuss how you think "pull" works.
A boomerang thrown forward can
come around and hit the thrower from behind.
Cosmic rays curve: they can also come
around and push towards their source.

Mickey says "no air in Space"- that's
great, Mickey

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#625291

On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 4:32:51 AM UTC+3, john wrote:
> We know that Cosmic Waves curve.
> That is all that is necessary
> to say a push can come around from behind.
==
might be !!!
but might be the presence of some mass on its way !!!
========
Y.Porat
===========================

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#625293

On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 4:32:51 AM UTC+3, john wrote:
> We know that Cosmic Waves curve.
> That is all that is necessary
> to say a push can come around from behind.
==
ight well be !!!

the main thing to understand is that
momentum of collision can do
ONLY SEPARATION OF MASSES
IOW
PUSH   FORCE !!!
====
Y.Porat
==========================

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#625284

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>If Cosmic Rays and boomerangs don't go
>straight, then a push can act as a pull.

I already told you boomerangs are irrelevant since they are a creation of
the atmosphere and its aerodynamics, and don't work in vacuum.

Cosmic rays are charged particles and, like any other charged particles
in motion, are deflected by magnetic fields (F = q(V x B)). Magnetic 
fields exist in space. But this is also irrelevant.

We're discussing forces, not particles, neither boomerangs nor cosmic 
rays.  Now tell us, if attractive forces don't exist, how does the
glass rod attract the ping pong ball?

(you should get together with Archie Pu. He says there's no repulsion
and you say there's no attraction. Between the two of you, you can destroy
the universe!)

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#625286

On 03/27/2017 12:56 AM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> MM
>> If Cosmic Rays and boomerangs don't go
>> straight, then a push can act as a pull.
>
> I already told you boomerangs are irrelevant since they are a creation of
> the atmosphere and its aerodynamics, and don't work in vacuum.
>
> Cosmic rays are charged particles and, like any other charged particles
> in motion, are deflected by magnetic fields (F = q(V x B)). Magnetic
> fields exist in space. But this is also irrelevant.
>
> We're discussing forces, not particles, neither boomerangs nor cosmic
> rays.  Now tell us, if attractive forces don't exist, how does the
> glass rod attract the ping pong ball?

You tell us what charge is first, and then John and I will explain how 
the rod SEEMS to attract the ping pong ball.

> (you should get together with Archie Pu. He says there's no repulsion
> and you say there's no attraction. Between the two of you, you can destroy
> the universe!)

:-)

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#625295

On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 7:56:14 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >MM
> >If Cosmic Rays and boomerangs don't go
> >straight, then a push can act as a pull.
> 
> I already told you boomerangs are irrelevant since they are a creation of
> the atmosphere and its aerodynamics, and don't work in vacuum.
> 
> Cosmic rays are charged particles and, like any other charged particles
> in motion, are deflected by magnetic fields (F = q(V x B)). Magnetic 
> fields exist in space. But this is also irrelevant.
> 
> We're discussing forces, not particles, neither boomerangs nor cosmic 
> rays.  Now tell us, if attractive forces don't exist, how does the
> glass rod attract the ping pong ball?

========
AGAIN YOU MUST be mR sANSHOPANTCO OF BODKIN  P D ??

push can be by mass that is sending ' sub messengers '
that move i a curved line
and attack from behind !!
iow
the y circlon mechanism !!
=
TIA
 Y. Porat
======================




 

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#625290

On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 5:37:53 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
> MM
> "A boomerang operates 100% via aerodynamics, like airplane wings. 
> Try throwing a boomerang in a vacuum, like on the moon, and see what 
> happens. 
> "
> Cosmic rays do not travel straight.
=====
depends while passing next to some mass !!!!
again some   *** mass***!! 
why ??
think !!!!!
Y.Porat
=====================================

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#625321

On 3/26/2017 9:37 AM, john wrote:
> MM
> "A boomerang operates 100% via aerodynamics, like airplane wings.
> Try throwing a boomerang in a vacuum, like on the moon, and see what
> happens.
> "
> Cosmic rays do not travel straight.
>

Cosmic rays don't travel straight because they are electrically charged 
and they're present in the magnetic field of the earth. The neutral 
components of cosmic rays DO travel in straight lines.

The super-fine emr or neutrinos you propose do not have electric charge.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#625322

Odd
"
Cosmic rays don't travel straight because they are electrically charged 
and they're present in the magnetic field of the earth. The neutral 
components of cosmic rays DO travel in straight lines. "

So what? If one component within your "vacuum "
can find purchase to curve, your argument is shot.

"The super-fine emr or neutrinos you propose do not have electric charge. "

Oh, now a pronouncement on what these subphotons
that you don't believe in can and cannot have?

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#625323

On 3/27/2017 7:59 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "
> Cosmic rays don't travel straight because they are electrically charged
> and they're present in the magnetic field of the earth. The neutral
> components of cosmic rays DO travel in straight lines. "
>
> So what? If one component within your "vacuum "
> can find purchase to curve, your argument is shot.
>
> "The super-fine emr or neutrinos you propose do not have electric charge. "
>
> Oh, now a pronouncement on what these subphotons
> that you don't believe in can and cannot have?
>

If you're going to say they are charged, John, then don't call them 
sub-photons or sub-neutrinos. Both photons and neutrinos are uncharged.

Now, if you are supposing that electrons radiate charged thingies that 
bend around in circles to hit from behind, then you're going to have to 
worry about the law of conservation of charge.

You haven't yet explained why replacing the ping pong ball with a 
charged glass ball results in observing the glass ball now moving AWAY 
from the glass rod.

Nor have you explained why the piece of paper has no effect.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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