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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-03-23 18:28 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-03-27 09:27 -0700 |
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Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 18:28 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-23 20:56 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 18:57 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 19:35 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 19:49 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 20:14 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-24 14:52 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 10:19 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 22:32 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 02:14 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 04:59 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 14:18 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 11:41 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-25 17:07 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 07:40 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 05:46 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-24 14:53 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 08:15 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 07:03 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 07:15 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 09:24 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 09:29 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-24 18:03 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 07:11 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-25 11:26 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 10:11 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 14:06 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 12:52 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 13:09 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-25 17:15 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 14:20 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 14:28 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-25 23:12 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-25 19:54 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 17:11 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-25 20:16 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-03-26 01:15 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 03:03 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 00:51 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 03:03 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 00:50 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 22:49 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 07:37 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-26 23:52 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 17:31 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 17:40 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 00:38 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-26 19:40 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 18:32 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-26 20:54 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 19:18 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-26 23:03 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-26 23:07 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-27 04:56 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 01:10 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-26 23:16 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-26 23:00 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 07:52 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 05:59 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 08:03 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 05:26 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-27 13:19 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 07:48 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 08:02 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-27 17:06 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 17:32 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-27 21:14 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 05:09 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 05:19 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 13:26 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 07:21 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 11:08 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-28 11:40 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 20:23 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 07:43 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 16:06 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 20:28 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 15:55 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 15:54 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 10:09 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 09:42 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 11:52 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 11:54 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 12:09 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 05:37 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-27 17:41 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 14:38 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 05:31 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 05:29 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 08:25 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 07:50 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-27 17:04 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 05:23 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 07:48 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 16:18 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-25 23:06 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-25 19:48 -0400
Re: Breakthroughs noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 20:17 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-24 14:59 +0000
Re: Breakthroughs Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 10:03 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 08:18 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 08:13 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-24 14:29 -0500
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 22:40 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-03-24 11:05 -0800
Re: Breakthroughs john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 12:10 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs gmbr3359@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 23:18 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-26 03:36 -0700
Re: Breakthroughs noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 09:27 -0700
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-23 18:28 -0700 |
| Subject | Breakthroughs |
| Message-ID | <0e7ed131-2080-4635-ad0f-8083aea87dd1@googlegroups.com> |
When PD challenged me to say what was providing the push for push Gravity, and I realized that electrons are radiating a much smaller brand of emr- call it Dark Radiation- and that MATTER itself is the source. So is this Dark Radiation the same as Dark Energy?
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| From | Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-23 20:56 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ob1uca$1872$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #624786 |
On 3/23/2017 8:28 PM, john wrote:
> When PD challenged me to say what was
> providing the push for push Gravity,
> and I realized that electrons are
> radiating a much smaller brand of emr-
> call it Dark Radiation-
> and that MATTER itself is the source.
>
> So is this Dark Radiation the same as
> Dark Energy?
>
some say Dark People live in Dark Africa. That is not the same.
a man has two hands, a monkey has two hands, therefore all men are
monkeys. That is not the same either.
if one turns on a light, it is not Dark anymore, but only for those that
see, or absorb photons, the light colored ones, not the Dark ones.
...has this been any help ?
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-03-23 18:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9edcdae2-2dbf-400a-afc0-7020f3a042a5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #624786 |
On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 4:28:55 AM UTC+3, john wrote: > When PD challenged me to say what was > providing the push for push Gravity, > and I realized that electrons are > radiating a much smaller brand of emr- > call it Dark Radiation- > and that MATTER itself is the source. > > So is this Dark Radiation the same as > Dark Energy? =========== how do you know it is P D?? (:-) it is my claim 2 it seems that you want to 'borrow' some of my breakthroughs without missioning my name on it.. BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH !!! first of all we agree that space is not curved and not schmerved yet you add on it some change from my claims - you say 'it is dark matter' .. sorry not good enough SPACE HAS NOPROPERTIES WHAT SOEVER EXXCEPT HOSTING MASS !! THERISSOME THING THAT YOUSTILLDIDNT LEARN FROM ME IE THERE IS !!!! EMPTY SPACE COMPLETE EMPTY SPACE !! HAD THERE NOTBEEN COMPLETE EMPTY SPACE (LIDTN CASRFULLY !! HAD THERE BEENNO COMPLETE EMPTY SPACWE NOMOTION WHATSOEVER COULD BE DONE !! you didn't noticed my above assertion /innovation !! THEREIS EMPTRYSAPCE AS WELL COMPLETE EMPTINESS (OR ELSE - AS BOVE ( IF SO IT IS NOT CURVATURE NOT SCHMERVATURE AND MORE !!! THERE IS 'DARK MATTER' BUTIT IS MATTER BUT ( A BIG BUT ) IT ID MASS !!! THAT IS STEMING FROM BIGGER MASSES AS RESIDUALS INOTHER WORDS !! IT IS THE Y CIRCLON PARTICLES HAT *STEM FROM BIGGER MASSES AS RESIDUALS SUB MATTER PARTICLES IOW ======================================================= ***MASS** IS THE MOTHER OF **ALL** FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY !! --------------------------------------------------- it is done by the Y Circlon mechanism -!that makes gravity gravity 9and all forces stems from mass !! and don't forget toad on it THE ONLY MASS !! NOT RELATIVISTIC MASS AND NOT SCHMELATIVISTIC MASS ! iow if you want to Steal something from me y Porat JUAST DO IT PROPERLY AND COMPLETELY !!!... 3] a real scientist must be ****honest** as well !! ---------------------------------- TIA Eng Y.Porat ==============================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-23 19:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0304ec9d-af37-43b3-9c4f-36290b08990d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #624796 |
No Y I said electrons give off MINI PHOTONS (and mini neutrinos)
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-03-23 19:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <85be36f3-cad6-45d2-918b-74d46c172998@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #624804 |
On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 7:35:50 PM UTC-7, john wrote: > No Y > I said electrons give off MINI PHOTONS > (and mini neutrinos) References for this statement? Or, is it just pulled from your ass?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-23 20:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4031bfb2-c8de-4cc4-9719-97da83c3493f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #624805 |
"radiating a much smaller brand of emr"
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 14:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ob3bre$3r5$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #624805 |
pnalsing@gmail.com writes: >On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 7:35:50 PM UTC-7, john wrote: >> No Y >> I said electrons give off MINI PHOTONS >> (and mini neutrinos) >References for this statement? Or, is it just pulled from your ass? The latter.
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 10:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4b4d0263-d154-4085-956e-babc031c31fd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #624841 |
<excretium deletia> > The latter.
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-03-23 22:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <30161a12-f586-46bf-8466-4694cdd10b0e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #624804 |
On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 5:35:50 AM UTC+3, john wrote: > No Y > I said electrons give off MINI PHOTONS > (and mini neutrinos) \=============== wrong !!!!wrong !! not only electrons !!! ANY MASS IS SPREDING Y CIRCLONS !!!====== y.Porat ========================
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 02:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <58d4b94d$0$10734$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #624786 |
On 03/23/2017 09:28 PM, john wrote: > When PD challenged me to say what was > providing the push for push Gravity, > and I realized that electrons are > radiating a much smaller brand of emr- > call it Dark Radiation- > and that MATTER itself is the source. > > So is this Dark Radiation the same as > Dark Energy? No. John, dark energy is bullshit. That is because the "Big Bang" is bullshit and a major error. Thus, all that logically follows from it is also totally wrong. That's why BB is the biggest mistake in science today! The Radiation you are looking for is known to science and is called by many names, such as animal magnetism, ode, orgone, mitogenic, and psychotronic radiation. This is all TOTALLY forbidden science. You are very much on the right track and by researching these things you can better learn the properties of what you seek.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 04:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e4ff1f3c-939c-4872-9249-b25350f2a126@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #624821 |
BJ quacked The Radiation you are looking for is known to science and is called by many names, such as animal magnetism, ode, orgone, mitogenic, and psychotronic radiation. This is all TOTALLY forbidden science. ------------- There you have it. This (by his own claim) is a (cough) scientist. Amazing
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-25 14:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <58d6b492$0$61773$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #624831 |
On 03/24/2017 07:59 AM, HVAC wrote: > BJ quacked > The Radiation you are looking for is known to science and is called by > many names, such as animal magnetism, ode, orgone, mitogenic, and > psychotronic radiation. This is all TOTALLY forbidden science. > ------------- > > There you have it. This (by his own claim) is a (cough) scientist. > > Amazing > Obviously you are an ignorant journalist who as never read (nor is capable of reading) any scientific journal. I've got the historical references. You, as usual have nothing but fantasy and mouth. Amazing.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-25 11:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9bcdab6f-4002-40be-8097-8a714682cd60@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #625018 |
BJ quacked Obviously you are an ignorant journalist who as never read (nor is capable of reading) any scientific journal. I've got the historical references. -------------- You've got fucking clown shoes
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-03-25 17:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <58d6dbf7$0$49908$b1db1813$145976f0@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #625023 |
On 3/25/2017 2:41 PM, HVAC wrote: > BJ quacked > Obviously you are an ignorant journalist who as never read (nor is > capable of reading) any scientific journal. > > I've got the historical references. > -------------- > > You've got fucking clown shoes > This is what HVAC calls "discussing science". Isn't this the saddest exhibition you've ever seen?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 07:40 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ob3434$18l4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #624786 |
On 3/23/2017 8:28 PM, john wrote: > When PD challenged me to say what was > providing the push for push Gravity, > and I realized that electrons are > radiating a much smaller brand of emr- > call it Dark Radiation- > and that MATTER itself is the source. > > So is this Dark Radiation the same as > Dark Energy? > Hey John, it's Odd. Before you bring up push stuff from PD days, could you kindly address my questions about the observations of charged glass rods pulling in charged ping pong balls, and observations of charged glass rods pushing away charged glass balls? You're the one saying that pull interactions make no sense, so could you please explain these observations? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 05:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b9444d35-547c-4587-8c1e-0fb7e74fd5d7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #624833 |
8:40 AMOdd Bodkin On 3/23/2017 8:28 PM, john wrote: - show quoted text - Hey John, it's Odd. Before you bring up push stuff from PD days, could you kindly address my questions about the observations of charged glass rods pulling in charged ping pong balls, and observations of charged glass rods pushing away charged glass balls? You're the one saying that pull interactions make no sense, so could you please explain these observations? -------- I think you can only understand John if you're vegan.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 14:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ob3bu3$3r5$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #624834 |
HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> writes: >8:40 AMOdd Bodkin >You're the one saying that pull interactions make no sense, so could you >please explain these observations? >-------- >I think you can only understand John if you're vegan. And stop by "Little Pharma" first.
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 08:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ca0082ed-c2eb-486a-9354-657d6d580427@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #624842 |
On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 5:53:57 PM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote: > HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> writes: > > > >8:40 AMOdd Bodkin > > >You're the one saying that pull interactions make no sense, so could you > >please explain these observations? > >-------- > > > >I think you can only understand John if you're vegan. > > And stop by "Little Pharma" first. ========== hi ass leaker Moroney ===== Y.P =======================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 07:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <007979d2-8192-45be-bc84-914837ebf064@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #624833 |
Odd " You're the one saying that pull interactions make no sense, so could you please explain these observations? " The only thing that can pull is physical attachment- like a rope- and that's still a push from the attached part. So.... little ropes? Maybe the strings from String Theory? Otherwise, sorry, pull interactions are impossible.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 07:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bd86daae-a102-46f2-86a4-bceae7f017f3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #624836 |
Poor John says Odd " You're the one saying that pull interactions make no sense, so could you please explain these observations? " The only thing that can pull is physical attachment- like a rope- and that's still a push from the attached part. So.... little ropes? Maybe the strings from String Theory? Otherwise, sorry, pull interactions are impossible. ------------- John how does your idea of push (or pull. Idek know anymore) explain gravitational lensing? To me gravitational lensing is elegant proof of curved space. You can experience it yourself if you have access to a strong telescope. If not there are many pictures of these otherwise anomalous images. And John please answer the question without rancor or references to veganism
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