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Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2017-03-04 07:17 -0800
Last post2017-03-17 04:01 +0000
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  Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 07:17 -0800
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-04 17:12 +0000
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 19:33 +0100
        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-04 20:45 +0000
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 12:31 -0600
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 19:40 +0100
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-04 18:23 -0500
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 04:40 -0800
        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-07 04:56 -0800
        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 07:14 -0600
          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 05:53 -0800
            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-07 16:26 +0000
            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 11:44 -0600
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-03-04 12:53 -0800
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 17:09 -0800
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate S Ergio <invlid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-07 06:59 -0600
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 05:59 -0800
        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate S Ergio <invlid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-07 08:24 -0600
          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate S Ergio <invlid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-07 11:57 -0600
          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-03-07 11:01 -0800
        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-07 16:31 +0000
        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-08 06:11 -0800
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 09:39 -0800
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-07 17:56 -0800
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate S Ergio <invlid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-07 11:59 -0600
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 10:28 -0800
        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate S Ergio <invlid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-07 12:49 -0600
        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 13:09 -0600
        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-08 03:19 +0000
          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 05:47 -0800
            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 06:53 -0800
            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 09:50 -0600
            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-08 17:17 +0000
            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-08 11:45 -0800
              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 14:20 -0600
                subjectum editen arbyz14u@gmail.com - 2017-03-08 12:34 -0800
                  or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 19:32 -0800
                    or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 06:14 -0800
                      Re: or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 15:26 +0100
                      Re: or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 08:29 -0600
                        Re: or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 07:18 -0800
                          (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 07:29 -0800
                          Re: or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 09:32 -0600
                            Re: or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 10:46 -0800
                              exemplar grati noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 11:55 -0800
                                Re: exemplar grati noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 22:00 -0800
                              Re: or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-10 20:57 +0000
                              Re: or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 16:13 -0600
                          Re: or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 09:34 -0600
              Re: When we zoom in|out too far, it looks random. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-08 19:41 -0500
            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 13:04 -0800
              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-11 17:16 -0500
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 16:59 -0800
                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-11 20:28 -0500
                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 07:17 -0700
                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 10:59 -0700
                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-14 13:15 -0700
                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 15:17 -0700
                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 17:23 -0500
                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 16:06 -0700
                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 09:02 -0500
                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 07:05 -0700
                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 09:58 -0500
                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 08:22 -0700
                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 10:33 -0500
                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 09:16 -0700
                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 09:23 -0700
                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 12:10 -0500
                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 05:14 -0700
                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 05:55 -0700
                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 06:18 -0700
                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 08:52 -0500
                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 07:22 -0700
                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 09:35 -0500
                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 08:23 -0700
                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 10:27 -0500
                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 08:45 -0700
                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 08:55 -0700
                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 11:26 -0500
                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 09:43 -0700
                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 12:00 -0500
                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 10:13 -0700
                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 13:34 -0500
                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 11:57 -0700
                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 14:06 -0500
                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 12:22 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 14:30 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 12:41 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 15:13 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 15:17 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 13:29 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 15:37 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 14:05 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 16:21 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 15:15 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 20:02 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 18:13 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 19:54 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 19:28 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 18:57 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 16:20 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 19:51 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 19:25 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 07:17 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 04:11 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 01:58 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 13:00 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 06:29 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 07:28 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 07:54 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate folland28@gmail.com - 2017-03-17 09:23 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 11:52 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 10:26 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-17 11:21 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 11:25 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-17 11:29 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 13:38 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 12:11 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 14:20 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 15:26 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 17:28 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 22:53 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 23:13 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 18:57 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 19:20 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-18 03:56 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-17 23:52 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-18 01:59 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-18 19:23 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 08:28 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 08:42 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 11:42 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 08:00 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 12:07 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 07:18 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-21 11:35 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 09:31 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 11:32 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate hanson <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-31 12:33 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-22 02:24 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 06:18 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 07:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-22 18:11 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 07:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 11:32 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 09:34 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-22 14:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 08:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 08:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 10:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-22 17:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 13:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 13:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 13:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 15:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-22 18:16 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Usenet is all play and no work. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-22 18:27 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Usenet is all play and no work. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 17:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Usenet is all play and no work. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-31 17:57 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Usenet is all play and no work. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 21:25 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: Usenet is all play and no work. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-31 18:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Usenet is all play and no work. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 04:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Usenet is all play and no work. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 06:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Usenet is all play and no work. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-01 17:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Usenet is all play and no work. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 15:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Usenet is all play and no work. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 15:59 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Usenet is all play and no work. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 16:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Usenet is all play and no work. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-01 19:12 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-22 17:49 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 10:29 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 20:26 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 09:18 -0500
                                                                                                                John Sefton won't bow down to experimental evidence. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-18 06:47 -0700
                                                                                                                Arrogance is ugly. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-18 06:52 -0700
                                                                                                                  Arrogance is ugly. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-18 07:19 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Arrogance is ugly. gmbr3359@gmail.com - 2017-03-18 09:27 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Arrogance is ugly. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-18 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Arrogance is ugly. gmbr3359@gmail.com - 2017-03-18 09:41 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Arrogance is ugly. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-03-18 10:52 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Arrogance is ugly. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-18 14:26 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: John Sefton won't bow down to experimental evidence. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-18 17:48 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: John Sefton won't bow down to experimental evidence. edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 08:29 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-18 04:12 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-17 23:22 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 23:34 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-17 23:19 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-17 10:10 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 22:59 +0000
                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 19:13 -0700
                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 19:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 04:04 +0000
                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 12:30 -0700
                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 12:49 -0700
                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 12:57 -0700
                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 18:34 -0400
                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 19:06 -0400
                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 18:29 -0400
                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 18:19 -0700
                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 23:13 -0400
                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 20:54 -0700
                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 05:35 -0700
                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-18 17:14 -0400
                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-18 16:10 -0700
                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-18 20:35 -0400
                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 05:02 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 05:23 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 05:35 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 05:46 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 07:30 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 07:40 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 07:48 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 07:50 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 08:40 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 00:29 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 00:53 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 04:42 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 20:21 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 07:27 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 07:34 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 08:22 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 08:46 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-21 17:23 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-21 17:16 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-21 17:16 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Order in Nature. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-03-21 14:32 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The "church steeple" is a campus building. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 16:20 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Princeton's 5 octave carillon ( 35 bells, in a Gothic tower ). Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-03-23 12:59 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The "church steeple" is a campus building. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-21 19:32 -0400
                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 18:52 -0700
                                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 07:25 -0500
                                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 03:53 +0000
                                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 18:19 -0400
                                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 03:51 +0000
                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 18:35 -0700
                                                    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 03:47 +0000
                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 08:49 -0500
                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 07:42 -0700
                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 03:43 +0000
                                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 12:04 -0500
                                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 11:00 -0700
                                              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 11:06 -0700
                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 13:32 -0500
                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 18:26 -0400
                                                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 19:16 -0700
                                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 02:20 -0700
                                  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 03:40 +0000
                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 23:25 -0700
                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-15 09:35 -0700
                      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-14 19:03 -0400
                        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-03-14 23:23 +0000
                          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-14 20:52 -0400
                            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 18:03 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 07:53 -0700
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 11:18 -0500
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 04:01 +0000

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#623441

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-16 11:06 -0700
Message-ID<b7ee79c3-f5bf-4ab1-929e-a811dfde02e4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#623435
Odd's convinced that all of Standard Model
is indefensible.
He's just the Man for the Job.

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#623451

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-16 13:32 -0500
Message-ID<oaelnr$vo0$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#623441
On 3/16/2017 1:06 PM, john wrote:
> Odd's convinced that all of Standard Model
> is indefensible.

I wonder if you know what that word means....

> He's just the Man for the Job.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#623521

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-03-16 18:26 -0400
Message-ID<58cb1113$0$62232$b1db1813$65575428@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#623451
On 3/16/2017 2:32 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/16/2017 1:06 PM, john wrote:
>> Odd's convinced that all of Standard Model
>> is indefensible.
>
> I wonder if you know what that word means....
>
>> He's just the Man for the Job.

All the theories you defend are indefensible. That is a given.

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#623554

Fromedprochak@gmail.com
Date2017-03-16 19:16 -0700
Message-ID<60268298-3d04-4c45-b15b-aa8d0e7344fa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#623441
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 2:06:30 PM UTC-4, john wrote:
> Odd's convinced that all of Standard Model
> is indefensible.

I think you mean defensible.
Your position is the one that's indefensible.

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#623584

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-17 02:20 -0700
Message-ID<58ff6bd2-c30a-45d4-97d6-cc608e6782c6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#623554
ed 
"On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 2:06:30 PM UTC-4, john wrote: 
> Odd's convinced that all of Standard Model 
> is indefensible. 

I think you mean defensible. 
Your position is the one that's indefensible. 
_______
No ed,
I meant what I wrote.
Think about it.

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#623566

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-03-17 03:40 +0000
Message-ID<oafls3$1u2$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#623234
Wow, a little glitch almost made me miss John nearly go into a full-blown
kook meltdown!  Hope you've calmed down by now!

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd still think the ONLY radiation is emr.
>What's the frequency of neutrons, Odd?

We DO know that electric charges moving in a curved path WILL produce
electromagnetic radiation.  Sorry, John, no way to avoid that!

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#623190

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-14 23:25 -0700
Message-ID<ea8e4a6b-12e3-43ac-9b19-600e28eb1c3e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#623119
ten-trillion cycles per second, or
10,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,0 hertz, not misteR Hurts

> On 3/14/2017 5:17 PM, john wrote:
> > So, you guys can detect  frequencies
> > of 10^16/sec?
> 
> That's UV light, John. Not a big deal. Really.

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#623260

Fromedprochak@gmail.com
Date2017-03-15 09:35 -0700
Message-ID<78edcbd9-0d0d-450e-b0d5-7515e08a9713@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#623116
On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 6:17:19 PM UTC-4, john wrote:
> So, you guys can detect  frequencies
> of 10^16/sec?


The 10^16Hz range is smack in the middle of Ultraviolet light,
so Yeah, pretty easy to detect.

> That's what electrons should give off just from
> their rate of precession.

We have told you this before. So if you are claiming
orbiting electrons emit radiation at those frequencies,
then the evidence (detection) of that radiation is nil.
So,your theory predicted something that DOESN'T HAPPEN.
Therefore, you theory has been falsified.

> That would compare to half the 200 million years
> our galaxy takes to rotate. 
> The actual frequencies given off by electrons
> would be 10^50 hertz-
> can you scan that frequency to see? To prove
> electrons don't radiate?

Ah now we are getting somewhere.
A gamma ray (everything above X-ray is gamma ray)
of frequency 10^50Hz would be a photon with energy
of about 0.4*10^36 eV (or 0.4*10^30 MeV)

There isn't that much energy for that gamma ray.
So unless you are proposing a violation of the
conservation of energy happens, you are leaving
a big energy hole from emitting ONE photon
of that frequency.

Care to explain where all that energy comes from?
  Ed

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#623138

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-03-14 19:03 -0400
Message-ID<58c876e0$0$28916$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#623051
On 3/14/2017 1:59 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
>
> Place was sure dead without you, though.
>
> Sorry but chimp and Archie-poo are just not up to the pro challenge!
>  ------------
>
> I don't read most posts by Archimedes but he is a prolific poster
> here.
>
> If by 'Chimp' you mean Jim Penino, I think you are way off base. Mr
> Penino is both  euridite and loquacious. He brings a wealth of
> knowledge and experience to this group. The fact is that he has
> reached the point where he seems to have grown tired of your 'logic',
> and sick of your trolling.

Sure all you debunker types must stick together and cover each other's 
ass. Irrefutable truth is that BOTH you and Chimp had your science asses 
handed to you by none other than Bert and John! THAT is how little you 
both know. Of course as a journalist you know nothing but fantasy, but 
also are smarter than Chimp. You never discuss science and hence can 
never be shown to be stupid. You only name-call and talk dirty. Chimp on 
the other hand thinks he knows something, and tries to "explain" things 
and gets his ass handed to him over and over, which he then tries to 
cover with bluster and name-calling. Jim could learn a lot from you on 
how to be stupid and get away with it!


> This all = Less attention for BJ = BJ is frustrated.
>
> Learn to let go of your self hurtful emotions

Oh, Beat me! Beat me, Harlow! I love you!

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#623143

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-03-14 23:23 +0000
Message-ID<dlampd-i4h.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#623138
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 3/14/2017 1:59 PM, HVAC wrote:
>> BJ quacked Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
>>
>> Place was sure dead without you, though.
>>
>> Sorry but chimp and Archie-poo are just not up to the pro challenge!
>>  ------------
>>
>> I don't read most posts by Archimedes but he is a prolific poster
>> here.
>>
>> If by 'Chimp' you mean Jim Penino, I think you are way off base. Mr
>> Penino is both  euridite and loquacious. He brings a wealth of
>> knowledge and experience to this group. The fact is that he has
>> reached the point where he seems to have grown tired of your 'logic',
>> and sick of your trolling.
> 
> Sure all you debunker types must stick together and cover each other's 
> ass. Irrefutable truth is that BOTH you and Chimp had your science asses 
> handed to you by none other than Bert and John! THAT is how little you 
> both know. Of course as a journalist you know nothing but fantasy, but 
> also are smarter than Chimp. You never discuss science and hence can 
> never be shown to be stupid. You only name-call and talk dirty. Chimp on 
> the other hand thinks he knows something, and tries to "explain" things 
> and gets his ass handed to him over and over, which he then tries to 
> cover with bluster and name-calling. Jim could learn a lot from you on 
> how to be stupid and get away with it!

Usual assortment of troll babble nonsense, ad hominems and lies.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#623155

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-03-14 20:52 -0400
Message-ID<58c89063$0$18116$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#623143
On 3/14/2017 7:23 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>> On 3/14/2017 1:59 PM, HVAC wrote:
>>> BJ quacked Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
>>>
>>> Place was sure dead without you, though.
>>>
>>> Sorry but chimp and Archie-poo are just not up to the pro challenge!
>>>  ------------
>>>
>>> I don't read most posts by Archimedes but he is a prolific poster
>>> here.
>>>
>>> If by 'Chimp' you mean Jim Penino, I think you are way off base. Mr
>>> Penino is both  euridite and loquacious. He brings a wealth of
>>> knowledge and experience to this group. The fact is that he has
>>> reached the point where he seems to have grown tired of your 'logic',
>>> and sick of your trolling.
>>
>> Sure all you debunker types must stick together and cover each other's
>> ass. Irrefutable truth is that BOTH you and Chimp had your science asses
>> handed to you by none other than Bert and John! THAT is how little you
>> both know. Of course as a journalist you know nothing but fantasy, but
>> also are smarter than Chimp. You never discuss science and hence can
>> never be shown to be stupid. You only name-call and talk dirty. Chimp on
>> the other hand thinks he knows something, and tries to "explain" things
>> and gets his ass handed to him over and over, which he then tries to
>> cover with bluster and name-calling. Jim could learn a lot from you on
>> how to be stupid and get away with it!
>
> Usual assortment of troll babble nonsense, ad hominems and lies.
>
>
As usual Chimp doesn't get it.

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#623157

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-14 18:03 -0700
Message-ID<f3b68640-b49a-40dd-812f-d6b212c1d03c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#623155
Doesn't seem to be as focussed
now that Sam's not here to be cussed.

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#622659

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-12 07:53 -0700
Message-ID<47213d79-ec0f-4447-8b98-0543c4bd334c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#622568
On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 5:16:46 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:
> On 3/11/2017 4:04 PM, HVAC wrote:
> > john
> > MM
> > "QM complicates things"
> >
> > Which is the opposite of the goal of Science.
> > -------

FTR, I love QM. QED. QCD. I'm just waiting for QXD or Q*D. Still waiting.

> > Says who? You? BJ?
> >
> > Gtfo
> >
> Welcome back, HVAC. We were all hoping you were dead instead of just 
> fishing again. Most likely BOTH "fishing" and "dead" are lies.
> Fist bump through a towel?

Damn damn DAMN, HVAC survived The APcopolice. (A state cop with lice)
I know, I can't spell or right a check. I will gladly repay you Tuesday?!

Death, couldn't happen to a more meaner ridiculous guy, I mean you HVAC!

Fine, I meant to write apocalypse |əˈpäkəˌlips|. I make hair jokes, OK?!

Since the apocalypse is scheduled or preordained, either, for Tuesday...

In a town with one Barber, who cuts the Barber's hair? No looking at answer book.

-- Mahipal == माहिपाल ... "My Pal" or "Maple"... as in Loops, S(y)rup, Wood. 
                          /\  "If the line between science fiction and 
                            /   science fact doesn't drive you crazy, 
 /\                         \   then you're just not tr(y)ing!" 
 \           /\/\  /  \   \/                    Mahipal Virdy 
 /   ==    \  /  \/\/                         The |meforce> Paradox 
 \/                            http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/ 

I could twist this any way I want, but I'm not a Twister. Aa Ja MahiWa(y)...

For those obsessed with me m(y) name MaahiPaaal pal Pal PAL dil ke paas...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BWdglekty0 It sucks not to have a life.
Kal Ho Naa Ho - Maahi Ve Video | Shahrukh Khan, Saif, Preity, ... DanSingh.

Aja reh Mahi Tereh Rastah Udhikdiyan{{ Henna1991}} Mahi Ve... O(y)e...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdyfmIlZ9Xk Aja reh Mahi... pal Pal PAL...

You all are Physicists -- pretend or otherwise -- and Language is the
least of your challenges, I meant to say worries, so listen at 3PM.
The story/theme is of the DanSingh Poet Who Never Makes It Home...

There exist all these beautiful women, and the(y) won't give me time of day.
Not to worry, you girls out there, you ugly women behave just the same.

You may ask yourself, what is a Pal? Let me tell you, it's a BitOfTime.

Lesson? Bang hard only and all the drums that make it inside your door.

Longest sig lines ever! Hey, these lines be cumulative... Hi+Stor(y)=History.

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#623418

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-03-16 11:18 -0500
Message-ID<oaedtg$h58$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#621455
On 3/4/2017 9:17 AM, john wrote:
> Electrons may not radiate emr
> as they orbit,
> but they do radiate.
> They are changing direction
> rapidly and continuously in Space.
> Space is not empty; Space is as full
> as full can be.
> Space is Infinitely Full: there is and can
> be no smallest thing, and everything is made
> of something, all the turtles Russian Dolls way
> down.
> Electrons everywhere give off ripples in
> this Infinitely-recurring Space,
> and it is this pressure from all matter that
> is absorbed by matter and results in Gravity
> and Inertia.
>

I know a lot of people have enjoyed John Sefton's struggles to explain 
his own worldview. I just thought I'd offer some perspective on what's 
going on in his head. There is a phenomenon called the Dominance of the 
Personal Normal, and it is common among people who have a combination of 
low critical thinking skills and an elevated ego.

In the Dominance of the Personal Normal, the convictions held by the 
subject feel comfortable to him and so are presumed to be "normal" or 
"ordinary". Consequently, any statement by someone else that is in 
conflict with those convictions is assessed to be extraordinary and 
supranormal, requiring extraordinary evidence to support. The key thing 
here is that it doesn't actually matter what the conviction is or how 
widely held it actually is. Because the conviction is personally held, 
no matter what it is, it is presumed to be the normal view. The hallmark 
of this trait is an inability or unwillingness to challenge one's own 
convictions; if it is presumed to be "normal", then why would it need to 
be challenged? In extreme cases, the subject may in fact simultaneously 
hold mutually contradictory convictions, and yet feel no discomfort in 
that, and so see no reason to question them. As a result, those 
suffering from Dominance of the Personal Normal do not develop critical 
thinking skills that are needed for certain pursuits like science or 
philosophy or law.

The Dominance of the Personal Normal has many applications. It explains 
why many atheists simply do not understand why theists would believe the 
way they do, and vice versa. It is commonly exhibited in disagreements 
between extremists in political matters, social structures, 
individualism vs collectivism, notions about how natural things work.

Scientists as a rule have a suppressed Dominance of the Personal Normal, 
which comes from reliance on objective experimental data, rather than 
what "feels right". Questioning one's convictions is routine in science, 
though at times even good scientists get caught up in their personal 
normal, especially if egocentrism is a character trait.

John Sefton exhibits a very deep and pervasive Dominance of the Personal 
Normal, which cripples his ability to think like a scientist needs to. 
It also causes much of the thrashing in conversations with him.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#623572

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-03-17 04:01 +0000
Message-ID<oafn24$1u2$9@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#623418
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>Dominance of the Personal Normal

Very interesting!  I wasn't familiar with that term. And yes, it definitely
obvious that it applies to John.

I've learned a smattering of abnormal psychology from watching the kooks
here kook. I came up with the concept of 'idée fixe' before I learned of
that name for the term, and I figured that a few 'idée fixe's' (along
with OCD) were behind John's thinking, but this is a better description.

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