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2electronorbital.GIF

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2017-01-30 09:04 -0800
Last post2017-02-15 12:08 -0800
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  2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 09:04 -0800
    2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 09:36 -0800
    2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 09:37 -0800
      2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 11:02 -0800
        2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 11:15 -0800
      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-30 19:39 +0000
        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 12:03 -0800
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 12:25 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 14:42 -0600
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 14:02 -0800
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 16:16 -0600
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 14:38 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:19 -0600
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-31 16:54 +0000
                        fig. **** noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 12:47 -0800
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:06 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:27 -0800
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 11:35 -0600
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 10:00 -0800
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 12:34 -0600
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 11:26 -0800
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 14:37 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 00:19 -0800
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:23 -0600
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 12:10 -0800
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 14:32 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 14:56 -0600
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF "F.Art.Ingatu" <F.Art.Ingatu@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-31 13:20 -0800
                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 15:36 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 15:16 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:55 -0600
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:20 -0800
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-01 05:00 +0000
                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 00:06 -0800
                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:25 -0600
                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-01 19:00 +0000
                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 07:53 -0800
                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 08:46 -0800
                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 10:02 -0800
                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 12:21 -0600
                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 10:26 -0800
                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 12:41 -0600
                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 10:58 -0800
                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 11:07 -0800
                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 14:05 -0600
                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 11:17 -0800
                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 11:34 -0800
                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-03 19:11 -0500
                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 08:15 -0800
                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-04 17:33 -0500
                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 16:16 -0800
                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-04 20:48 -0500
                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 19:56 -0800
                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 00:59 -0800
                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 04:19 -0800
                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 04:51 -0800
                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 05:07 -0800
                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 05:41 -0800
                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 08:55 -0800
                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 10:36 -0800
                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 11:43 -0800
                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 13:17 -0800
                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:25 -0500
                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:24 -0500
                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-05 21:20 +0000
                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 13:44 -0800
                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-06 04:37 +0000
                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 06:05 -0800
                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-06 16:54 +0000
                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 09:13 -0800
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:33 -0600
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-06 22:18 +0000
                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 16:15 -0800
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 16:28 -0800
                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 16:43 -0800
                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 20:05 -0500
                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 02:51 -0800
                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 06:18 -0800
                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 06:46 -0800
                                                                                      tainty noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 08:30 -0800
                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-07 19:09 +0000
                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 13:03 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 15:37 -0600
                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 14:37 -0800
                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 16:50 -0600
                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 15:38 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 17:49 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 03:59 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 13:32 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 05:46 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 06:03 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 07:23 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 16:19 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 08:48 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 11:42 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 11:50 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 12:10 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-08 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:08 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 16:49 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 09:11 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 09:17 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 09:49 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 11:26 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 16:31 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-08 17:39 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:01 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 21:44 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 13:55 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 16:32 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-09 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:51 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 05:33 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 06:31 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 09:23 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-09 17:54 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 06:33 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 07:42 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 09:10 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-09 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:43 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:09 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 07:14 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 06:24 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 15:15 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 09:12 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 06:54 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-12 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 14:14 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 05:27 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 07:21 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 08:38 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 11:08 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-13 16:23 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-13 19:36 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-13 16:25 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 08:53 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:42 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:59 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 10:09 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 10:52 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 19:03 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 06:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 14:58 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 17:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 17:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 16:12 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 13:56 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 20:20 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 18:56 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:17 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 20:38 -0500
                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 20:59 -0500
                                                                                                  g.i.f ?...  for pi dollars! noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 19:17 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 04:08 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-08 17:01 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:28 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-09 17:26 -0500
                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 20:53 -0500
                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 20:50 -0500
                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 15:52 -0800
                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 08:58 -0800
                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:11 -0800
                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:34 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:54 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:55 -0800
                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 10:05 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 17:00 -0500
                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 16:55 -0500
                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 16:49 -0500
                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 16:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 19:53 -0500
                                                                  g.i.f  that noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 14:26 -0800
                                                                    Re: g.i.f  that noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 08:39 -0800
                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:15 -0500
                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:12 -0500
                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:11 -0500
                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 16:52 -0500
                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-03 15:37 +0000
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-31 17:01 +0000
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 09:14 -0800
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 09:19 -0800
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-31 18:04 +0000
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 13:26 -0800
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 10:44 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 11:33 -0600
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-30 17:41 -0500
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:22 -0600
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:23 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:42 -0800
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:23 -0600
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 07:49 -0800
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 10:13 -0600
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 08:41 -0800
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 08:47 -0800
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 10:55 -0600
                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:12 -0800
                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 11:49 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 10:53 -0600
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF bertlaubsch.bl@gmail.com - 2017-02-14 23:34 -0800
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-30 17:37 -0500
    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 11:08 -0800
      stuff in header noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:22 -0800
    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-30 19:44 +0000
      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 12:01 -0800
        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-30 17:36 -0500
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 17:09 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 22:44 -0800
    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF bertlaubsch.bl@gmail.com - 2017-02-14 23:26 -0800
      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 04:30 -0800
        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-15 13:06 +0000
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 05:12 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:27 -0600
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-15 16:29 +0000
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:35 -0800
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 17:13 -0500
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 17:10 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 20:35 -0500
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 05:08 -0800
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <nobody@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-17 15:11 -0500
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-18 17:08 -0500
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 16:03 -0800
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 10:26 -0800
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 05:22 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:28 -0600
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-15 16:49 +0000
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 12:08 -0800

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#617765

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-02-09 18:00 +0000
Message-ID<o7ianr$fsc$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#617744
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Arguing with schizophrenics.

That's why I'm here, to argue with the schizophrenics and assorted other
kooks such as yourself.

>Their precious "fundamental particle"- a
>concept devoid of logic- they now
>imagine wanders happily
>wherever it wants. No matter there's
>no possible pathway it can follow.

>And this is fine with these "scientists ".

You really don't understand what science states.

>Science is dead.

No, even though you seem to be trying your best to kill science, it will
continue to make progress.  That smartphone you're using to claim "science
is dead" was created with recent advances in the science you hate so much,
including using quantum mechanics.

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#617671

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-08 17:43 -0800
Message-ID<b5114cc3-1b42-4fde-83b9-fb5bad199ddb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617618
one can see from the lovely lobes of the orbitals
that their keplerian motion is quite regular, although
they are fuzzed-out by the other atoms.  but,
other than in bonds, they stick with one atom per molecule;
do they not?

> Of course not. "Delocalized" just means there is no permanent assignment of
> an electron to any particular atom/nucleus in a molecule.  No contradiction
> with that and being fundamental.  The electron is influenced by all atoms
> in the molecule.
> 
> You even do that in your spinny thing benzene animation. You show electrons
> going from one atom to another.
> 
> >"In chemistry, delocalized electrons are electrons in a molecule, ion or
> >solid metal that are not associated with a single atom or a covalent bond.
> >The term is general and can have slightly different meanings in different
> >fields."
> 
> 
> >Yes, whatever meaning they need.
> >Kinda like DM- one size fits all
> 
> Go read the Wikipedia pages on Molecular orbitals, Molecular orbital
> theory and Molecular orbital diagrams.  Assuming you actually want to
> learn something rather than be ruled by your precessing spinny thing OCD.

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#617640

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-08 17:09 -0600
Message-ID<o7g8f2$ome$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#617577
On 2/8/2017 11:11 AM, john wrote:
> You see no contradiction between
> 'fundamental'
> and 'delocalized'?

Nope. What about those are contradictory?
You tell me.

What do these two terms mean to you, so that I can see where one says X 
and the other says Not-X.

> "In chemistry, delocalized electrons are electrons in a molecule, ion or
> solid metal that are not associated with a single atom or a covalent bond.
> The term is general and can have slightly different meanings in different fields."
> Yes, whatever meaning they need.

Or rather, whatever meaning applies.
If I say, "Hey, before the department head heads up the next meeting, 
I'm going to head over to the head for a bio-break", are you going to 
freak out that I'm using more than one meaning for "head" that depends 
on the context? You think that's unfair?

> Kinda like DM- one size fits all
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#617898

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-10 07:14 -0600
Message-ID<o7keao$15m0$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#617548
On 2/8/2017 5:59 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "References given. Even pointed you to an app. Remember?"
> Yes.
> Atom in a box.
> Thats your model?
>

That's quantum mechanics' model of the atom, yes.
In visual form.
So where do you get off saying there IS NONE?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#617901

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-10 06:24 -0800
Message-ID<3243d2e4-a8d9-4a41-93c4-51f4b79b18e8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617898
Odd
"
> Yes. 
> Atom in a box. 
> Thats your model? 
> 

That's quantum mechanics' model of the atom, yes. 
In visual form. 
So where do you get off saying there IS NONE? 
"

What information does it convey about
the atom, Odd?

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#618358

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-12 15:15 -0600
Message-ID<o7qja0$1ace$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#617901
On 2/10/2017 8:24 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "
>> Yes.
>> Atom in a box.
>> Thats your model?
>>
>
> That's quantum mechanics' model of the atom, yes.
> In visual form.
> So where do you get off saying there IS NONE?
> "
>
> What information does it convey about
> the atom, Odd?
>

Lots of things, John.

It explains why atoms who have their outermost electrons living in 
different orbitals behave differently, including how they bond. (For 
example, why carbon likes to form four bonds, while hydrogen does one.)

It explains where electrons are found in the atom, quantitatively.

It explains the size of atoms, quantitatively.

It explains which states can transition to which other states, by virtue 
of selection rules on angular momentum, which then in turn determines 
exactly what wavelengths of light will be emitted from an atom, 
quantitatively.

And that's just for starters.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#617909

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-10 09:12 -0800
Message-ID<9cc838c3-1892-4e02-a692-d8b857ee94a8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617898
verbal mechanics?

> So where do you get off saying there IS NONE?
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#618072

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-11 06:54 -0800
Message-ID<3b68e7b5-db0f-4095-919a-05d09beb367a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617909
Odd
Again-
what information does "atom in a box"
convey about the atom?

Also- with cat in the box- aren't you fairly
sure it's still alive since it's meowing piteously?

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#618362

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-02-12 21:42 +0000
Message-ID<o7qksj$kv$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#618072
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd
>Again-
>what information does "atom in a box"
>convey about the atom?

John, in the "atom in a box" type explanation, the electron is considered
a _wave_, so arguing about where it is or anything doesn't make sense.

(oh, I know, you'll now rant "how can it be both a wave and a particle?".
The answer is the same as how can the photon be both a wave and a particle,
except the difference is the electron has a finite rest mass so it acts
more particle-like than a photon.)

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#618378

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-12 14:14 -0800
Message-ID<1490e332-0cfd-4737-a1fa-ebd1e27c763d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618362
easy as thirty-one tenths (pi) or
as seven twenty-seconds (PI)

> (oh, I know, you'll now rant "how can it be both a wave and a particle?".
> The answer is the same as how can the photon be both a wave and a particle,
> except the difference is the electron has a finite rest mass so it acts
> more particle-like than a photon.)

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#618420

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-13 05:27 -0800
Message-ID<e3f6830e-65ef-4d3c-b2f2-d1fa79b78b3c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618378
At least when the cat was in the box,
you knew it was dead when it stopped 
yowling and started to stink

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#618429

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-13 07:21 -0800
Message-ID<b63d377c-efaf-4bc4-a3af-a9f22d49aa33@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618420
Poor John says
At least when the cat was in the box, 
you knew it was dead when it stopped 
yowling and started to stink 
----------

There is no cat

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#618440

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-13 08:38 -0800
Message-ID<82126435-318b-4241-9afb-8b23c5795b37@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618429
HVAC
"There is no cat "
Even though it yowls, it's not there if you
can't see it?

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#618453

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-13 11:08 -0800
Message-ID<005414a0-e770-4afa-9bcb-088279660ac1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618440
Poor John says
HVAC 
"There is no cat " 
Even though it yowls, it's not there if you 
can't see it? 
----------

I'll tell you whether or not there's a cat. And my word is bank

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#618476

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-13 16:23 -0500
Message-ID<58a223f4$0$25427$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#618453
On 2/13/2017 2:08 PM, HVAC drooled:
> Poor John says
> HVAC
> "There is no cat "
> Even though it yowls, it's not there if you
> can't see it?
> ----------
>
> I'll tell you whether or not there's a cat. And my word is bank
>
HVAC is God until his brain dies and then there is nothing. Oh wait! 
It's already dead! You mad HVAC? You cured yet? Your drooling rants 
suggest otherwise.

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#618456

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-02-13 19:36 +0000
Message-ID<o7t1rv$o1a$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#618440
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>HVAC
>"There is no cat "
>Even though it yowls, it's not there if you
>can't see it?

Detect it, John.
Quit dwelling in your ignorance.

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#618477

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-13 16:25 -0500
Message-ID<58a2243e$0$25427$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#618429
On 2/13/2017 10:21 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Poor John says
> At least when the cat was in the box,
> you knew it was dead when it stopped
> yowling and started to stink
> ----------
>
> There is no cat
>
There is no "Felony"
There are no kids.
There is no HVAC.

All vapor.

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#618592

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-14 08:53 -0800
Message-ID<6eb23a2c-dc5d-43a8-8a8e-3c89bd74247e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618477
BJ quacked
There is no "Felony" 
-----------

And here I am stuck with an emerald pendant on Valentine's Day.


There are no kids. 
---------

And here I am stuck with all these bills.


There is no HVAC. 
--------

From your lips to god's ear.

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#618599

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-14 09:25 -0800
Message-ID<d57e9fb9-177e-48ab-bfd2-11632c72ab3f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618592
So, if the question is; what is the fastest and
most efficient way to define a sphere using
two electrons that follow each other, 
this is it:
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/2electronorbital.GIF 
 

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#618604

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-14 09:42 -0800
Message-ID<25fc5be9-db53-482f-b291-98fd34977f3e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#618599
PoorJohn says
So, if the question is; what is the fastest and 
most efficient way to define a sphere using 
two electrons that follow each other, 
this is it: 
----------

There is no sphere.

Rid your mind of such delusions. And go take a few bong rips.

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