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  The Climate Story Nobody Talks About Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 19:29 -0500
    Re: The Climate Story Nobody Talks About Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 19:30 -0500
      Re: The Climate Story Nobody Talks About jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-14 00:52 +0000
    Re: The Climate Story Nobody Talks About jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-14 00:50 +0000
      Re: The Climate Story Nobody Talks About Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 20:08 -0500
        Re: The Climate Story Nobody Talks About jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-14 02:26 +0000
    Re: The Climate Story Nobody Talks About gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 20:35 -0500

#520883 — The Climate Story Nobody Talks About

The Climate Story Nobody Talks About
> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/09/10/438913284/the-climate-story-nobody-talks-about

> Just two centuries ago, humanity barely understood that a planet's
> climate could change at all. People were still digesting the idea
> that Earth was a whole lot older than 6,000 years. But by the 1870s,
> most scientists accepted that our planet had experienced prolonged
> climate shifts — in the form of ice ages — dating back tens or
> hundreds of thousands of years. Explaining the causes of the ice ages
> was, however, far beyond the capacities of science at the time. That
> meant humanity would have to build those capacities.
>
> Across the latter half of the 20th century, an effort worthy of
> multiple Manhattan Projects unpacked something entirely new and
> entirely remarkable: a science of planets in all their complex glory.
> Wind, oceans, ice and rock: All of it had to be accounted for if the
> story of Earth and its climate was to be told.
>
> But we couldn't tell Earth's climate story without understanding
> climate on other planets, too. That's why it's no accident that
> climate science came to maturity in the space age.
>
> This is the first point to understand. All the effort and all the
> genius poured into humanity's bold exploration of the solar system
> have found their deepest expression in the science of climate.
>


> But, it's Venus that's the real poster child for climate science
> triumph, extra-terrestrial or otherwise. Even though it's about the
> same mass and size as Earth, temperatures on Venus hover around 860 F
> (hot enough to melt lead) and there is almost no water anywhere on
> the planet. Venus is as close to hell as you'll find in this solar
> system — and its location closer to the sun does not, by itself,
> explain it's terrible state.
>

> In other words — with our modern understanding of climate — we now
> know that if Earth were placed in Venus's location, the greenhouse
> effect would go nuts, heating the planet and driving water molecules
> high into the atmosphere where sunlight zaps them apart. What's left
> is a hot, dry atmosphere composed almost entirely of CO2. That's a
> runaway greenhouse effect. "There's good evidence this happened on
> Venus," says Kasting, who points to detailed chemical analysis of the
> Venusian atmosphere that proves the water was lost to space.
>

> Now, let's return to the climate of our own blue world. Catling can
> easily tick off a list of terrestrial climate science's epoch-making
> achievements. There's the development and deployment of a global
> monitoring system for the planet. "A major achievement of modern
> civilization," Catling says, "is the continuous satellite monitoring
> of the Earth's weather, climate and atmospheric composition, in
> combination with thousands of monitoring stations on the surface."
> Then, there's exhaustive work measuring molecular properties of
> atmospheric gases to understand how they interact with both sunlight
> and heat radiation emitted by the Earth. One also can point to the
> development of high performance computer simulations of planetary
> climate. "The advances in computing to solve the physics and
> chemistry of the atmosphere cannot be overstated," Catling says,
> pointing out this advance led to huge increases in weather prediction
> accuracy.
>
> More than anything, however, the real triumph of climate science
> comes in its ability to understand what's happening to the Earth now.
> Del Genio describes it in the simplest of scientific terms:
>
> "The major achievement of terrestrial climate science is that 34
> years ago, Jim Hansen and colleagues published a paper in Science
> making the first prediction of the rate of climate change over the
> next few decades as a result of CO2 increases [see Figure]. Looking
> at how much the Earth's surface temperature has actually changed in
> that time, they came remarkably close. That was a true prediction of
> the future, and sufficiently long ago that we have the chance to see
> how good it was."


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#520884

On 9/13/15 7:29 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> The Climate Story Nobody Talks About
> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/09/10/438913284/the-climate-story-nobody-talks-about
>
> http://www.npr.org/news/graphics/2015/09/gr-climate-report-137-300.png

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#520902

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/13/15 7:29 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> The Climate Story Nobody Talks About
>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/09/10/438913284/the-climate-story-nobody-talks-about
>>
>> http://www.npr.org/news/graphics/2015/09/gr-climate-report-137-300.png

Here's a better cartoon for you, spamming shit head:

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                    |\./|
                    |   |
                    |   |
                    |   |
                    |   |
                 /'\|   |/'\..
             /~\|   |   |   | \
            |   =[@]=   |   |  \
            |   |   |   |   |   \
            | ~   ~   ~   ~ |`   )
            |                   /
             \                 /
              \               /
               \    _____    /
                |--//''`\--|
                | (( +==)) |
                |--\_|_//--|


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#520901

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Climate Story Nobody Talks About
>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/09/10/438913284/the-climate-story-nobody-talks-about
> 
>> Just two centuries ago, humanity barely understood that a planet's
>> climate could change at all.

An utter, puerile lie, spamming shit head.

Even primative cultures knew about long term climate changes.

It is only modern, study funded fuckwits that are puzzled, spamming
shit for brains.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#520906

On 9/13/15 7:50 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> An utter, puerile lie, spamming shit head.

   I'm afraid not, jimp. You are blinded by your anger problem.
   Try Rancho Cucamonga Anger Management Classes
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

   Someday, you will thank me, jimp.

   The Climate Story Nobody Talks About
> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/09/10/438913284/the-climate-story-nobody-talks-about

 > Just two centuries ago, humanity barely understood that a planet's
 > climate could change at all. People were still digesting the idea
 > that Earth was a whole lot older than 6,000 years. But by the 1870s,
 > most scientists accepted that our planet had experienced prolonged
 > climate shifts — in the form of ice ages — dating back tens or
 > hundreds of thousands of years. Explaining the causes of the ice ages
 > was, however, far beyond the capacities of science at the time. That
 > meant humanity would have to build those capacities.
 >
 > Across the latter half of the 20th century, an effort worthy of
 > multiple Manhattan Projects unpacked something entirely new and
 > entirely remarkable: a science of planets in all their complex glory.
 > Wind, oceans, ice and rock: All of it had to be accounted for if the
 > story of Earth and its climate was to be told.
 >
 > But we couldn't tell Earth's climate story without understanding
 > climate on other planets, too. That's why it's no accident that
 > climate science came to maturity in the space age.
 >
 > This is the first point to understand. All the effort and all the
 > genius poured into humanity's bold exploration of the solar system
 > have found their deepest expression in the science of climate.
 >


 > But, it's Venus that's the real poster child for climate science
 > triumph, extra-terrestrial or otherwise. Even though it's about the
 > same mass and size as Earth, temperatures on Venus hover around 860 F
 > (hot enough to melt lead) and there is almost no water anywhere on
 > the planet. Venus is as close to hell as you'll find in this solar
 > system — and its location closer to the sun does not, by itself,
 > explain it's terrible state.
 >

 > In other words — with our modern understanding of climate — we now
 > know that if Earth were placed in Venus's location, the greenhouse
 > effect would go nuts, heating the planet and driving water molecules
 > high into the atmosphere where sunlight zaps them apart. What's left
 > is a hot, dry atmosphere composed almost entirely of CO2. That's a
 > runaway greenhouse effect. "There's good evidence this happened on
 > Venus," says Kasting, who points to detailed chemical analysis of the
 > Venusian atmosphere that proves the water was lost to space.
 >

 > Now, let's return to the climate of our own blue world. Catling can
 > easily tick off a list of terrestrial climate science's epoch-making
 > achievements. There's the development and deployment of a global
 > monitoring system for the planet. "A major achievement of modern
 > civilization," Catling says, "is the continuous satellite monitoring
 > of the Earth's weather, climate and atmospheric composition, in
 > combination with thousands of monitoring stations on the surface."
 > Then, there's exhaustive work measuring molecular properties of
 > atmospheric gases to understand how they interact with both sunlight
 > and heat radiation emitted by the Earth. One also can point to the
 > development of high performance computer simulations of planetary
 > climate. "The advances in computing to solve the physics and
 > chemistry of the atmosphere cannot be overstated," Catling says,
 > pointing out this advance led to huge increases in weather prediction
 > accuracy.
 >
 > More than anything, however, the real triumph of climate science
 > comes in its ability to understand what's happening to the Earth now.
 > Del Genio describes it in the simplest of scientific terms:
 >
 > "The major achievement of terrestrial climate science is that 34
 > years ago, Jim Hansen and colleagues published a paper in Science
 > making the first prediction of the rate of climate change over the
 > next few decades as a result of CO2 increases [see Figure]. Looking
 > at how much the Earth's surface temperature has actually changed in
 > that time, they came remarkably close. That was a true prediction of
 > the future, and sufficiently long ago that we have the chance to see
 > how good it was."

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#520927

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/13/15 7:50 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> An utter, puerile lie, spamming shit head.
> 
>   I'm afraid not, jimp.

I'm afraid so, spamming shit head.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#520916

On 9/13/2015 7:29 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> The Climate Story Nobody Talks About

>

>
>> But, it's Venus that's the real poster child for climate science
>> triumph, extra-terrestrial or otherwise. Even though it's about the
>> same mass and size as Earth, temperatures on Venus hover around 860 F
>> (hot enough to melt lead) and there is almost no water anywhere on
>> the planet. Venus is as close to hell as you'll find in this solar
>> system — and its location closer to the sun does not, by itself,
>> explain it's terrible state.

wrong.

Venus is much closer to the sun, by almost 40%.

Also the atmosphere is already 97% CO2.

Put that in your 1/d^2 pipe and smoke it.



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