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2electronorbital.GIF

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2017-01-30 09:04 -0800
Last post2017-02-15 12:08 -0800
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  2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 09:04 -0800
    2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 09:36 -0800
    2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 09:37 -0800
      2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 11:02 -0800
        2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 11:15 -0800
      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-30 19:39 +0000
        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 12:03 -0800
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 12:25 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 14:42 -0600
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 14:02 -0800
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 16:16 -0600
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 14:38 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:19 -0600
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-31 16:54 +0000
                        fig. **** noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 12:47 -0800
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:06 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:27 -0800
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 11:35 -0600
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 10:00 -0800
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 12:34 -0600
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 11:26 -0800
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 14:37 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 00:19 -0800
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:23 -0600
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 12:10 -0800
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 14:32 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 14:56 -0600
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF "F.Art.Ingatu" <F.Art.Ingatu@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-31 13:20 -0800
                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 15:36 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 15:16 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:55 -0600
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:20 -0800
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-01 05:00 +0000
                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 00:06 -0800
                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:25 -0600
                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-01 19:00 +0000
                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 07:53 -0800
                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 08:46 -0800
                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 10:02 -0800
                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 12:21 -0600
                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 10:26 -0800
                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 12:41 -0600
                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 10:58 -0800
                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 11:07 -0800
                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 14:05 -0600
                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 11:17 -0800
                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 11:34 -0800
                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-03 19:11 -0500
                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 08:15 -0800
                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-04 17:33 -0500
                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 16:16 -0800
                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-04 20:48 -0500
                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 19:56 -0800
                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 00:59 -0800
                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 04:19 -0800
                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 04:51 -0800
                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 05:07 -0800
                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 05:41 -0800
                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 08:55 -0800
                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 10:36 -0800
                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 11:43 -0800
                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 13:17 -0800
                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:25 -0500
                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:24 -0500
                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-05 21:20 +0000
                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 13:44 -0800
                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-06 04:37 +0000
                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 06:05 -0800
                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-06 16:54 +0000
                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 09:13 -0800
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:33 -0600
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-06 22:18 +0000
                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 16:15 -0800
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 16:28 -0800
                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 16:43 -0800
                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 20:05 -0500
                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 02:51 -0800
                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 06:18 -0800
                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 06:46 -0800
                                                                                      tainty noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 08:30 -0800
                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-07 19:09 +0000
                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 13:03 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 15:37 -0600
                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 14:37 -0800
                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 16:50 -0600
                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 15:38 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 17:49 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 03:59 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 13:32 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 05:46 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 06:03 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 07:23 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 16:19 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 08:48 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 11:42 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 11:50 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 12:10 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-08 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:08 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 16:49 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 09:11 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 09:17 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 09:49 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 11:26 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 16:31 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-08 17:39 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:01 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 21:44 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 13:55 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 16:32 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-09 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:51 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 05:33 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 06:31 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 09:23 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-09 17:54 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 06:33 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 07:42 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 09:10 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-09 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:43 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:09 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 07:14 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 06:24 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 15:15 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 09:12 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 06:54 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-12 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 14:14 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 05:27 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 07:21 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 08:38 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 11:08 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-13 16:23 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-13 19:36 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-13 16:25 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 08:53 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:42 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:59 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 10:09 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 10:52 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 19:03 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 06:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 14:58 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 17:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 17:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 16:12 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 13:56 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 20:20 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 18:56 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:17 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 20:38 -0500
                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 20:59 -0500
                                                                                                  g.i.f ?...  for pi dollars! noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 19:17 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 04:08 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-08 17:01 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:28 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-09 17:26 -0500
                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 20:53 -0500
                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 20:50 -0500
                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 15:52 -0800
                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 08:58 -0800
                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:11 -0800
                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:34 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:54 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:55 -0800
                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 10:05 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 17:00 -0500
                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 16:55 -0500
                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 16:49 -0500
                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 16:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 19:53 -0500
                                                                  g.i.f  that noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 14:26 -0800
                                                                    Re: g.i.f  that noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 08:39 -0800
                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:15 -0500
                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:12 -0500
                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:11 -0500
                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 16:52 -0500
                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-03 15:37 +0000
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-31 17:01 +0000
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 09:14 -0800
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 09:19 -0800
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-31 18:04 +0000
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 13:26 -0800
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 10:44 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 11:33 -0600
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-30 17:41 -0500
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:22 -0600
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:23 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:42 -0800
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:23 -0600
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 07:49 -0800
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 10:13 -0600
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 08:41 -0800
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 08:47 -0800
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 10:55 -0600
                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:12 -0800
                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 11:49 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 10:53 -0600
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF bertlaubsch.bl@gmail.com - 2017-02-14 23:34 -0800
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-30 17:37 -0500
    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 11:08 -0800
      stuff in header noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:22 -0800
    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-30 19:44 +0000
      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 12:01 -0800
        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-30 17:36 -0500
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 17:09 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 22:44 -0800
    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF bertlaubsch.bl@gmail.com - 2017-02-14 23:26 -0800
      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 04:30 -0800
        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-15 13:06 +0000
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 05:12 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:27 -0600
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-15 16:29 +0000
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:35 -0800
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 17:13 -0500
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 17:10 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 20:35 -0500
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 05:08 -0800
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <nobody@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-17 15:11 -0500
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-18 17:08 -0500
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 16:03 -0800
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 10:26 -0800
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 05:22 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:28 -0600
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-15 16:49 +0000
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 12:08 -0800

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#616353

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-31 11:26 -0800
Message-ID<646e74be-73ac-4408-8de0-dda46a278b86@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#616350
Odd and Michael:
Do you think star velocities can be
measured from galaxies
that are face-on to us?
Why or why not?

How do you think they DO measure
star velocities?

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#616363

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-31 14:37 -0600
Message-ID<o6qsi1$1cgi$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#616353
On 1/31/2017 1:26 PM, john wrote:
> Odd and Michael:
> Do you think star velocities can be
> measured from galaxies
> that are face-on to us?
> Why or why not?

Not really. You'd have to wait too long. Fortunately, most galaxies are 
not face-on to us.

>
> How do you think they DO measure
> star velocities?
>

Wavelength shift.

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#616455

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-01 00:19 -0800
Message-ID<2d683e09-6d73-4f3f-9bfd-bfc376459db5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#616353
Again.
-Odd and Michael: 
-Do you think star velocities can be 
-measured from galaxies 
-that are face-on to us? 
-Why or why not? 

-How do you think they DO measure 
-star velocities? What positron of
galaxies wrt us do you think might
be necessary? Why?

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#616522

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-01 09:23 -0600
Message-ID<o6suhv$aki$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#616455
On 2/1/2017 2:19 AM, john wrote:
> Again.
> -Odd and Michael:
> -Do you think star velocities can be
> -measured from galaxies
> -that are face-on to us?
> -Why or why not?

Answered, John.

>
> -How do you think they DO measure
> -star velocities? What positron of
> galaxies wrt us do you think might
> be necessary? Why?
>

Answered, John.

-- 
-- Odd Bodkin, maker of fine tables, toys, tools

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#616361

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-31 12:10 -0800
Message-ID<d74020dd-261a-41c1-b36f-0f74c23dd8d5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#616350
Odd
"- show quoted text -
Which side do you think is always the side that rotates faster, relative 
to the earth? Reference please. "

You are the one that imagines that
one side of a rotating disc can be
made to rotate faster than the
other!!?????????
Not me!

I would love you to explain that

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#616362

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-31 14:32 -0600
Message-ID<o6qs8f$1bjs$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#616361
On 1/31/2017 2:10 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "- show quoted text -
> Which side do you think is always the side that rotates faster, relative
> to the earth? Reference please. "
>
> You are the one that imagines that
> one side of a rotating disc can be
> made to rotate faster than the
> other!!?????????

Of course it can. It's not a solid disk. It's a loosely bound collection 
of objects held together by a weak interaction.

It is simply not true that the same side of galaxies, relative to the 
earth, always is the side that is rotating faster. That's something you 
made up.

> Not me!
>
> I would love you to explain that
>

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#616367

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-31 14:56 -0600
Message-ID<o6qtmg$1e9e$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#616361
On 1/31/2017 2:10 PM, john wrote:
> You are the one that imagines that
> one side of a rotating disc can be
> made to rotate faster than the
> other!!?????????
> Not me!

John, I want to take just a moment to give you some insight as to how 
galaxies rotate. They do not rotate like solid disks.

Start with the solar system, which is kind of like a very sparse galaxy 
with a dense galactic core (the sun) and a handful of stars outside the 
core (the planets). Notice that the planets do not rotate around the 
core like the spots on a disk. The inner planets go around a lot faster 
than the outer planets do. http://giphy.com/gifs/solar-system-YaxibZeRGOGAM
http://giphy.com/gifs/solar-system-YqopropuC719C

So you can imagine that a galaxy is like this, except with millions or 
billions of orbiting bodies. It will still be true that the inner ones 
will orbit a lot faster than the outer ones will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw086T2ANdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqN4wvbAOdg

Now, you may recall that comets go around a lot faster when they are 
closer to the sun than when they are further away. Take a look at 
Halley's comet in its elliptical trajectory. You can see that its orbit 
is not symmetric with time, a direct result of it passing closer to a 
concentration of matter on one side of its orbit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1SycRpYH3k

So now you can ask, how does a galaxy get a nonsymmetric orbit like a 
comet has? Why that's easy to answer -- Halley's comet gives the answer. 
Have there be a concentration of matter on once side of the galaxy, so 
that stars will go faster when they pass by this concentration of 
matter, and slower when they are further away.

Notice that in NONE of these vids is the galaxy like some wheel that 
rotates as a unit. Just get that out of your head.


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#616376

From"F.Art.Ingatu" <F.Art.Ingatu@hotmail.com>
Date2017-01-31 13:20 -0800
Message-ID<6a4b48cb-e189-4eb9-9074-87b6752e3680@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#616367
"Odd Bodkin" <bodkinodd@gmail.com> -- the 
the maker of fine toys, tools and tables, wrote:
>
> <johnsefton288@gmail.com>john wrote:
> > You are the one that imagines that
> > one side of a rotating disc can be
> > made to rotate faster than the
> > other!!?????????
> > Not me!
> 
> John, I want to take just a moment to
> Just get that out of your head.
>
Mr. Bodkin, john is not just a carpenter like
you are. john speaks with support and on behalf
of his "Galactic Commander" which is why, with
full justification, john can continue to be
f.art.ingatu



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#616380

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-31 15:36 -0600
Message-ID<o6r00o$1i0h$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#616376
On 1/31/2017 3:20 PM, F.Art.Ingatu wrote:
> "Odd Bodkin" <bodkinodd@gmail.com> -- the
> the maker of fine toys, tools and tables, wrote:
>>
>> <johnsefton288@gmail.com>john wrote:
>>> You are the one that imagines that
>>> one side of a rotating disc can be
>>> made to rotate faster than the
>>> other!!?????????
>>> Not me!
>>
>> John, I want to take just a moment to
>> Just get that out of your head.
>>
> Mr. Bodkin, john is not just a carpenter like
> you are. john speaks with support and on behalf
> of his "Galactic Commander" which is why, with
> full justification, john can continue to be
> f.art.ingatu

Ahem. Woodworker.
A carpenter is not a cabinetmaker is not a woodworker.

John's Galactic Commander was a shroom trip.

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#616373

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-31 15:16 -0600
Message-ID<o6quqn$1g95$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#616361
On 1/31/2017 2:10 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "- show quoted text -
> Which side do you think is always the side that rotates faster, relative
> to the earth? Reference please. "
>
> You are the one that imagines that
> one side of a rotating disc can be
> made to rotate faster than the
> other!!?????????
> Not me!
>
> I would love you to explain that
>

And just to free your brain from the idea that galaxies all look like 
spiraling disks, here are some telescopic photos of some other galaxies. 
Does an asymmetric pattern of matter or dark matter seem possible now?

http://annesastronomynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/IC-2574.jpg
http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/images/heic0615a.jpg
https://www.galaxyexplorer.net.au/wp-content/uploads/the-first-stars.jpg
http://www.astronomynotes.com/galaxy/smc.gif
http://www.bia.iac.es/img/std/212_neb6_std.jpg

Right now, I imagine there's that little voice in your head telling you 
that you do not have to acknowledge any reality that does not fit into 
your concepts.

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#616388

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-31 16:55 -0600
Message-ID<o6r4k3$1q4r$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#616361
On 1/31/2017 2:10 PM, john wrote:
> You are the one that imagines that
> one side of a rotating disc can be
> made to rotate faster than the
> other!!?????????
> Not me!

While I've been showing you some other things, I think you should look 
at this simulation of how the stars in spiral armed galaxies move.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Us-jonCLA

The main thing I want you to notice is that stars MIGRATE from one arm 
to the next over time. The reason why this is important is your 
half-assed idea that half the arms in a galaxy are matter and half are 
antimatter. Since you can see (matter) stars migrating from one (matter) 
arm to the next (antimatter) arm, where are the annihilation gammas that 
come from the admixture of matter and antimatter in the same arm?

For that matter, if matter repels antimatter, how is it that the stars 
migrate from one arm to the next?

Now, John, as I said before, if you start to incur an allergic reaction 
to facts in conflict with your ideas, it might be best just to take an 
echinacea pill and lie down until the feeling of facts passes.

-- 
Odd Bodkin, maker of fine tables, toys, tools

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#616408

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-31 16:20 -0800
Message-ID<78f6863c-a851-4f87-a627-8687a70fdc9e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#616388
so, elementary, that I forgot -- and "john" will ne'er forget ... possibly
 
> antimatter. Since you can see (matter) stars migrating from one (matter) 
> arm to the next (antimatter) arm, where are the annihilation gammas that 
> come from the admixture of matter and antimatter in the same arm?
> 
> For that matter, if matter repels antimatter, how is it that the stars 
> migrate from one arm to the next?
> 
> Now, John, as I said before, if you start to incur an allergic reaction 
> to facts in conflict with your ideas, it might be best just to take an 
> echinacea pill and lie down until the feeling of facts passes.
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin, maker of fine tables, toys, tools

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#616437

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-02-01 05:00 +0000
Message-ID<o6rq17$n6j$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#616388
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>On 1/31/2017 2:10 PM, john wrote:
>> You are the one that imagines that
>> one side of a rotating disc can be
>> made to rotate faster than the
>> other!!?????????
>> Not me!

>While I've been showing you some other things, I think you should look 
>at this simulation of how the stars in spiral armed galaxies move.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Us-jonCLA

...

>Now, John, as I said before, if you start to incur an allergic reaction 
>to facts in conflict with your ideas, it might be best just to take an 
>echinacea pill and lie down until the feeling of facts passes.

I pointed out to him a similar animation to show him how the arms of a 
spiral galaxies are just standing waves of star density.  Didn't get a
response.  I don't know if he never looked at it or if he did but it
overloaded his mind and he went back to precessing spinny things or what.

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#616454

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-01 00:06 -0800
Message-ID<bff15ac5-b12d-43e8-90a0-0afffbd6f503@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#616437
MM
"I pointed out to him a similar animation to show him how the arms of a "

I thought you two dudes weren't 
into "animations ".
You sure dissed mine enough.
Now animations are good?

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#616523

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-01 09:25 -0600
Message-ID<o6sukk$aki$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#616454
On 2/1/2017 2:06 AM, john wrote:
> MM
> "I pointed out to him a similar animation to show him how the arms of a "
>
> I thought you two dudes weren't
> into "animations ".
> You sure dissed mine enough.
> Now animations are good?
>

Ones that are matched against experimental observation are, John.
That's the point. Your animations are not matched to any observations -- 
they're just your imaginations of motions inside, but don't have any 
bearing on real observations.

-- 
-- Odd Bodkin, maker of fine tables, toys, tools

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#616548

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-02-01 19:00 +0000
Message-ID<o6tb8n$vm6$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#616454
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"I pointed out to him a similar animation to show him how the arms of a "

>I thought you two dudes weren't 
>into "animations ".
>You sure dissed mine enough.
>Now animations are good?

Animations BY THEMSELVES are worthless.  Animations that demonstrate
what's been observed and measured are a good part of a description.

The galaxy animations take the math of gravitational interaction and
shows it in a form that helps all that dry math make sense.

On the other hand, you come up with a gif and say "this is benzene".
No data, evidence or anything _why_ that should be benzene.  Just that
it works for you.  No predictions like "if the electrons do this, then
you should see chemical behavior X.  No explanation of how different
behavior of benzene (increased stability, reduced certain forms of
reactivity) that's well explained by the much-hated delocation of pi
electrons can be explained.  Just a pretty .gif pulled from some body
orifice.

Also, you are a very visual person.  An animated spiral galaxy SHOULD
help you understand how the arms are standing waves of star density.
There is one animation I saw that has one star marked in red so you
can follow it easier as it moves along an arm and then between arms.
Unfortunately I can't find it now.

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#616637

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-02 07:53 -0800
Message-ID<3bde0d7d-41c5-4982-91d9-95726f0cd390@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#616548
Michael 
"electrons can be explained.  Just a pretty .gif pulled from some body orifice"

http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/electronorbital.GIF
 was constructed to find the most efficient
spherical pathway.
There is actually a guy with a book out
with this same pathway on the cover,
and he also says it is how electrons move.
I don't know where he got it, and he
didn't know how it was made.
I made it in 1981 and included the design
in two patents taken out at that time.

Then I said I could use it to do Benzene.

It took four months and five animations 
to complete.

You saw and dissed every one.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/BenzeneE.GIF

And it is perfect.

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#616649

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-02 08:46 -0800
Message-ID<722a4758-b585-428c-9dbd-dfa6f9ca3e85@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#616637
Poor John says
Then I said I could use it to do Benzene. 

It took four months and five animations 
to complete. 

You saw and dissed every one. 

http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/BenzeneE.GIF 

And it is perfect. 
-----------

John serious question. Please list all the drugs you ingested yesterday. Include both legal and illegal. Rest assured that this information will be held in the deepest confidence

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#616656

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-02 10:02 -0800
Message-ID<abf4c26d-7d1a-4288-806d-872b2e2ec4c4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#616649
HVAC
"John serious question. Please list all the drugs you ingested yesterday. Include both legal and illegal. Rest assured that this information will be held in the deepest confidence "
Alcohol- single malt Glen Morangie scotch
Beer- Kokanee 
Home grown bud- flushed to perfection 
It was a good evening.

And you?

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#616667

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-02 12:21 -0600
Message-ID<o6vtat$16o5$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#616656
On 2/2/2017 12:02 PM, john wrote:
> HVAC
> "John serious question. Please list all the drugs you ingested yesterday.
> Include both legal and illegal. Rest assured that this information will be
> held in the deepest confidence "
> Alcohol- single malt Glen Morangie scotch
> Beer- Kokanee
> Home grown bud- flushed to perfection
> It was a good evening.

Have a visit from the Intergalactic Rangers after that?

>
> And you?
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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