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2electronorbital.GIF

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2017-01-30 09:04 -0800
Last post2017-02-15 12:08 -0800
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  2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 09:04 -0800
    2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 09:36 -0800
    2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 09:37 -0800
      2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 11:02 -0800
        2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 11:15 -0800
      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-30 19:39 +0000
        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 12:03 -0800
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 12:25 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 14:42 -0600
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 14:02 -0800
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 16:16 -0600
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 14:38 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:19 -0600
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-31 16:54 +0000
                        fig. **** noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 12:47 -0800
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:06 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:27 -0800
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 11:35 -0600
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 10:00 -0800
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 12:34 -0600
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 11:26 -0800
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 14:37 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 00:19 -0800
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:23 -0600
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 12:10 -0800
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 14:32 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 14:56 -0600
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF "F.Art.Ingatu" <F.Art.Ingatu@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-31 13:20 -0800
                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 15:36 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 15:16 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:55 -0600
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:20 -0800
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-01 05:00 +0000
                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 00:06 -0800
                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:25 -0600
                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-01 19:00 +0000
                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 07:53 -0800
                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 08:46 -0800
                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 10:02 -0800
                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 12:21 -0600
                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 10:26 -0800
                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 12:41 -0600
                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 10:58 -0800
                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 11:07 -0800
                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 14:05 -0600
                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 11:17 -0800
                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 11:34 -0800
                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-03 19:11 -0500
                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 08:15 -0800
                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-04 17:33 -0500
                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 16:16 -0800
                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-04 20:48 -0500
                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 19:56 -0800
                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 00:59 -0800
                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 04:19 -0800
                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 04:51 -0800
                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 05:07 -0800
                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 05:41 -0800
                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 08:55 -0800
                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 10:36 -0800
                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 11:43 -0800
                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 13:17 -0800
                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:25 -0500
                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:24 -0500
                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-05 21:20 +0000
                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 13:44 -0800
                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-06 04:37 +0000
                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 06:05 -0800
                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-06 16:54 +0000
                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 09:13 -0800
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:33 -0600
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-06 22:18 +0000
                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 16:15 -0800
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 16:28 -0800
                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 16:43 -0800
                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 20:05 -0500
                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 02:51 -0800
                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 06:18 -0800
                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 06:46 -0800
                                                                                      tainty noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 08:30 -0800
                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-07 19:09 +0000
                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 13:03 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 15:37 -0600
                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 14:37 -0800
                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 16:50 -0600
                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 15:38 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 17:49 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 03:59 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 13:32 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 05:46 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 06:03 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 07:23 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 16:19 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 08:48 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 11:42 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 11:50 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 12:10 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-08 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:08 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 16:49 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 09:11 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 09:17 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 09:49 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 11:26 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 16:31 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-08 17:39 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:01 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-08 21:44 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 13:55 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 16:32 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-09 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:51 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 05:33 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 06:31 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 09:23 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-09 17:54 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 06:33 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 07:42 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 09:10 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-09 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:43 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:09 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 07:14 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 06:24 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 15:15 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 09:12 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 06:54 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-12 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 14:14 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 05:27 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 07:21 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 08:38 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 11:08 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-13 16:23 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-13 19:36 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-13 16:25 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 08:53 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:42 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:59 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 10:09 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 10:52 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 19:03 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 06:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 14:58 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 17:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 17:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 16:12 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 13:56 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 20:20 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 18:56 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:17 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 20:38 -0500
                                                                                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 20:59 -0500
                                                                                                  g.i.f ?...  for pi dollars! noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 19:17 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 04:08 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-08 17:01 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:28 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-09 17:26 -0500
                                                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 20:53 -0500
                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 20:50 -0500
                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 15:52 -0800
                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 08:58 -0800
                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:11 -0800
                                                                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:34 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:54 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:55 -0800
                                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 10:05 -0800
                                                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 17:00 -0500
                                                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 16:55 -0500
                                                                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 16:49 -0500
                                                                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 16:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 19:53 -0500
                                                                  g.i.f  that noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 14:26 -0800
                                                                    Re: g.i.f  that noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 08:39 -0800
                                                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:15 -0500
                                                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:12 -0500
                                                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 17:11 -0500
                                                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-06 16:52 -0500
                                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-03 15:37 +0000
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-31 17:01 +0000
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 09:14 -0800
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 09:19 -0800
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-31 18:04 +0000
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 13:26 -0800
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 10:44 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 11:33 -0600
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-30 17:41 -0500
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:22 -0600
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:23 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 16:42 -0800
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:23 -0600
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 07:49 -0800
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 10:13 -0600
                            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 08:41 -0800
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 08:47 -0800
                                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 10:55 -0600
                                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 09:12 -0800
                                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 11:49 -0600
                              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 10:53 -0600
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF bertlaubsch.bl@gmail.com - 2017-02-14 23:34 -0800
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-30 17:37 -0500
    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 11:08 -0800
      stuff in header noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 07:22 -0800
    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-01-30 19:44 +0000
      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 12:01 -0800
        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-30 17:36 -0500
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 17:09 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 22:44 -0800
    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF bertlaubsch.bl@gmail.com - 2017-02-14 23:26 -0800
      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 04:30 -0800
        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-15 13:06 +0000
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 05:12 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:27 -0600
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-15 16:29 +0000
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:35 -0800
                Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 17:13 -0500
                  Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 17:10 -0800
                    Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-16 20:35 -0500
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 05:08 -0800
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <nobody@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-17 15:11 -0500
                        Re: 2electronorbital.GIF benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-18 17:08 -0500
                          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 16:03 -0800
                      Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 10:26 -0800
          Re: 2electronorbital.GIF john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 05:22 -0800
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:28 -0600
            Re: 2electronorbital.GIF moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-15 16:49 +0000
              Re: 2electronorbital.GIF noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 12:08 -0800

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#617113

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-05 11:43 -0800
Message-ID<f53263f5-48b3-4c7f-874d-94ea8eb63a21@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617106
Poor John says
HVAC is a sheep. 
He will only listen to the herd. 
----------

Why don't you make like a sheepherder and get the flock out of here?


(I just made that up. Rawr)

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#617123

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-05 13:17 -0800
Message-ID<a991fe98-c57b-48c1-bdb4-817bd82f99ff@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617113
HVAC"

Why don't you make like a sheepherder and get the flock out of here? "

I'll bet there's a bunch you remember people saying:
Don't let the door hit you...
Don't go mad don't go sad just go...
FOAD...
You are the worst person in the world, HVAC...
(Yes, I actually saw that on a bathroom wall)

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#617265

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-06 17:25 -0500
Message-ID<5898f7e5$0$41978$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#617113
On 2/5/2017 2:43 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Poor John says
> HVAC is a sheep.
> He will only listen to the herd.
> ----------
>
> Why don't you make like a sheepherder and get the flock out of here?
>
>
> (I just made that up. Rawr)
>
More proof HVAC dropped out after the 8th grade.

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#617264

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-06 17:24 -0500
Message-ID<5898f7be$0$41978$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#617103
On 2/5/2017 11:55 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Poor John says HVAC "Just as an fyi John, your little animated
> cartoons don't count as evidence"
>
> There is NO evidence that people with rock hard beliefs like you will
> consider. Name one form that you would believe- short of the "whole
> herd" accepting it. ------------
>
> You don't understand John. There are a vanishingly small number of
> 'out of the blue' discoveries in science that cause a paradigm shift.
> It's the slow, plodding hard work of thousands of men and women in
> science that culminates in change. And this is the way it should be.
> All of us scientists stand on the shoulders of others. All our work
> is subject to criticism. But people like you and your newsgroup ally,
> BJ, hate criticism. You and he think that ghosts, esp and animated
> gif cartoons should just be accepted.

HVAC's beliefs above are demonstrably wrong in the extreme. It simply 
shows his ignorance of science. If he had bothered to read my book he'd 
have seen the proof he is totally wrong. But as a journalist he operates 
only on fantasy and belief. Facts to him are only what his imagination 
says they are. Cripes! As dogmatic and dumb as Odd is, even HE has read 
Kuhn! The only thing HVAC reads is Batman comics and Sports Illustrated. 
Now you see why he refuses to discuss anything. If he tries he gets his 
ass handed to him!

> No
>

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#617125

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-02-05 21:20 +0000
Message-ID<o784u8$7eh$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#617097
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>HVAC
>"Just as an fyi John, your little animated cartoons don't count as evidence"

>There is NO evidence that people with
>rock hard beliefs like you will consider.
>Name one form that you would
>believe- short of the "whole herd"
>accepting it.

No, John.  Exactly the opposite.  I NEED evidence before I will believe
something substantially unusual. And things counter to evidence are less
likely to believed than simply no evidence.  For example, a .gif of
retarded spinny things goes counter to evidence supporting current theory
(violation of conservation of momentum, no electromagnetic radiation,
current theory supported by chemical behavior of benzene) so there is
less than zero reason for me to accept it.  Now for something else
outlandish, dark matter.  We know that the rotation curves of galaxies
aren't explained by the VISIBLE matter in them, so, as Odd wrote, we
have to consider two possibilities: Gravity doesn't behave as we believe,
or we have the mass distribution of the galaxies wrong.  The second is
simpler.

If all the six-year-olds didn't run away in fear from you, perhaps you'd
understand the concept of "invisible heavy stuff" in the galaxies.  That
would explain it.  Also Einstein rings suggest that galaxies are more
massive than current theory suggests, which supports "invisible heavy
stuff".  I am not convinced 100% of course, and won't be, at least not
until some scientists has a handful of dark matter for people to examine
or something...

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#617127

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-05 13:44 -0800
Message-ID<d7a4050a-5337-4cba-9d04-463cf0118133@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617125
MM
Gotcha.
Invisible heavy stuff.
Can I have some invisible tasty stuff?
I know!!
I want some invisible deadly bud!!!
But make it not smell- that got me in trouble on the train once.

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#617175

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-02-06 04:37 +0000
Message-ID<o78uiv$vna$4@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#617127
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>Gotcha.
>Invisible heavy stuff.
>Can I have some invisible tasty stuff?
>I know!!
>I want some invisible deadly bud!!!
>But make it not smell- that got me in trouble on the train once.

Not sure what your issue is with "invisible heavy stuff". You're
breathing "invisible light stuff" right now, correct?  Did you ever have
balloons full of "invisible antigravity stuff"? Yeah, I know, it's not
really "invisible antigravity stuff", just "invisible (super)light stuff".

Can't help you with the "invisible bud stuff". You should lay off of
Little Pharma's offerings, however, it has already fried your mind.

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#617205

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-06 06:05 -0800
Message-ID<17ddbdb9-7e1f-43b1-83c9-5898b484c6ac@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617175
MM
" 
Not sure what your issue is with "invisible heavy stuff". You're 
breathing "invisible light stuff" right now, correct?"

Well, atoms of any kind in a diffuse state
are invisible-
is that what you are talking about-
clouds of heavier elements?

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#617221

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-02-06 16:54 +0000
Message-ID<o7a9o3$37p$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#617205
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>" 
>Not sure what your issue is with "invisible heavy stuff". You're 
>breathing "invisible light stuff" right now, correct?"

>Well, atoms of any kind in a diffuse state
>are invisible-
>is that what you are talking about-
>clouds of heavier elements?

Probably not clouds of ordinary elements, too easily detected.

There are lots of theories of what so-called "dark matter" really is.
It could be loads of frozen sunless Jupiters out there. Does the
star-making process make lots of smaller stuff as well?  It could be
neutrinos or similar. The neutrinos we are familiar with would make for
an excellent dark matter component except for the fact they move at
nearly the speed of light due to how they are formed, so aren't a good
candidate for clouds of mass hanging around galaxies.  And there are
plenty of theories involving currently unknown massive particles.  All
these theories have associated arguments of the form "It can't be X
because..." such as what I wrote about neutrinos.  To sum it up, we
just don't know enough.

Why do you have issues with that?

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#617224

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-06 09:13 -0800
Message-ID<46a94afa-82e0-43ba-8fa0-1c1339ad8223@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617221
MM
"
just don't know enough. 

Why do you have issues with that? "

But you fight strongly against
Alternative possibilities. Why?

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#617229

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-06 13:33 -0600
Message-ID<o7aj1p$u2d$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#617224
On 2/6/2017 11:13 AM, john wrote:
> MM
> "
> just don't know enough.
>
> Why do you have issues with that? "
>
> But you fight strongly against
> Alternative possibilities. Why?
>

Alternative possibilities are as plentiful and cheap and useful as beer 
can cozies at Dollar General.

What's would be interesting is an alternative possibility that has a 
chance of being right.

What you offer is garage-sale junk, old 45's with accordion ballads, 
Tupperware lid cleaners, and paperback romance novels.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#617263

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-02-06 22:18 +0000
Message-ID<o7asoc$7t2$4@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#617224
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"
>just don't know enough. 

>Why do you have issues with that? "

>But you fight strongly against
>Alternative possibilities. Why?

I don't simply fight against "alternative possibilities", I oppose foolish
"alternative possibilities" that make no sense, that violate the laws
of physics (without at least offering an explanation why the violated
laws should be violated in the first place) or are counter to known
observation, as being harmful to science.  I can visit any insane asylum
and ask all the "physicists" among the inmates for "alternative
possibilities" and get hundreds of them, all contradicting each other
and all almost certainly wrong.

Also, I recognize idee fixe's and OCD when I see it.

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#617291

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-06 16:15 -0800
Message-ID<d91618a0-871d-421c-8ea6-06444ab40319@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617221
Michael Moroney
..... To sum it up, we 
just don't know enough. 
-----------

That sentence almost defines science

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#617295

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-06 16:28 -0800
Message-ID<840bf207-fca1-4bc2-9f0f-0de537f1a0d8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617291
HVAC
"That sentence almost defines science "

Used to .
No more.
We DO know enough- 
we've done ten times the experimenting
necessary- we just haven't 
put the pieces together.
There seems to be those who want to
hide or  discredit many
perfectly legitimate findings
because of their own agenda, and
prevent investigation in those areas,
labelling anyone who does
as a "kook".
You certainly wouldn't prevent free
scientific investigation in ANY
area, would you, HVAC?
Plant sentience?
Telepathy?
Remote viewing?
Of course you would NEVER discourage
free investigation in any direction!
You're a man of Science!!

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#617298

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-06 16:43 -0800
Message-ID<7fab7d62-841f-44f2-a519-4629497e7880@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617295
On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 7:28:11 PM UTC-5, john wrote:
> HVAC
> "That sentence almost defines science "
> 
> Used to .
> No more.
> We DO know enough- 
> we've done ten times the experimenting
> necessary- we just haven't 
> put the pieces together.
> There seems to be those who want to
> hide or  discredit many
> perfectly legitimate findings
> because of their own agenda, and
> prevent investigation in those areas,
> labelling anyone who does
> as a "kook".
> You certainly wouldn't prevent free
> scientific investigation in ANY
> area, would you, HVAC?
> Plant sentience?
> Telepathy?
> Remote viewing?
> Of course you would NEVER discourage
> free investigation in any direction!
> You're a man of Science!!

Ditto! Take 'em down JohnJi! Take 'em all down.
I wish the news Talking Heads had balls enough to do the same.

Science Gollum: We hates free open discussion. We hates it.

Gollum is a fictional character from J. R. R. Tolkien's legendarium.
He was introduced in the 1937 fantasy novel The Hobbit. The Ring...

Guess what I've got in me m(y) pocket...

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#617309

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-06 20:05 -0500
Message-ID<58991d62$0$10736$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#617295
On 2/6/2017 7:28 PM, john wrote:
> HVAC
> "That sentence almost defines science "
>
> Used to .
> No more.
> We DO know enough-
> we've done ten times the experimenting
> necessary- we just haven't
> put the pieces together.
> There seems to be those who want to
> hide or  discredit many
> perfectly legitimate findings
> because of their own agenda, and
> prevent investigation in those areas,
> labelling anyone who does
> as a "kook".
> You certainly wouldn't prevent free
> scientific investigation in ANY
> area, would you, HVAC?
> Plant sentience?
> Telepathy?
> Remote viewing?
> Of course you would NEVER discourage
> free investigation in any direction!
> You're a man of Science!!
>
"man of science"! Bwahahahaha!

Hey HardBlow, did you catch that "plant sentience"?

Now THAT I do believe in because I've done the experiments! Got the 
charts from "Clyde" and "Phil" who are two plants I own (are you still 
allowed to "own" plants or are there plant rights activists now? You are 
a journalist, HVAC, tell me.)

Those plants have ESP and responded right away to my emotions. I got the 
proof. Unfortunately I killed Clyde and almost killed Phil (put them in 
the cold room and they froze) but luckily there is plant resurrection 
and phil is now recovering from a tiny twig that didn't freeze.

Do you believe? I categorically swear it's true.

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#617346

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-07 02:51 -0800
Message-ID<b682d4a8-badb-4c91-b4f6-4b47ecb2cd33@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617309
BJ quacked
Hey HardBlow, did you catch that "plant sentience"? 

Now THAT I do believe in because I've done the experiments! Got the 
charts from "Clyde" and "Phil" who are two plants I own (are you still 
allowed to "own" plants or are there plant rights activists now? You are 
a journalist, HVAC, tell me.) 

Those plants have ESP and responded right away to my emotions. I got the 
proof. Unfortunately I killed Clyde and almost killed Phil (put them in 
the cold room and they froze) but luckily there is plant resurrection 
and phil is now recovering from a tiny twig that didn't freeze. 

Do you believe? I categorically swear it's true. 
-----------

I believe that you grew 2 marijuana plants and while you were high you named them. I also believe that you killed those poor plants in order to feed your drug habit. 

Any questions?

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#617364

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-07 06:18 -0800
Message-ID<fd1ac093-a026-44c9-a718-1b37cce2a784@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617346
HVAC
"Any questions?"
Yes.
How's ur throat?
Did you say it was metastatic?
From where? Lungs?
Did they strip lymph nodes?

Just interested- I did many years of
Medicine before they couldn't cure
me- just wondering how they're doing
at not curing you.

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#617369

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-07 06:46 -0800
Message-ID<70343ec5-5388-4272-a6f5-0b8e7d9bfe8b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617364
Anyway, I deduced that one rotation of the
 disc (one cycle), per two precessions of
the disc (crest and trough of the wave),
creates the most efficient electron path.
The link is above.

So, since applying ones classical theory
to Benzene was the acid test for
classical electron orbitals,
if you've read history of Physics,
(btw "chains of electrons" was floated by
Rutherford, Y),
I decided to see if the above would work
for Benzene, and it does.
In the ring below,
each C shares a red and yellow with
each of its two neighbours and a red
and yellow with the H. It has one
electron left to share; the green one.

Current theory
would have it that this electron
'delocalises' or whatever, 'spreading out'
around the ring, somehow. I don't 
see how this is possible, classically.

Look at the six green electrons in the
animation, below. They each follow a
path identical to each of the yellow and
red ones. The only difference? They are
in that pathway ALONE. They are in
a molecular bond ALONE.
They are a true half-bond!!
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/BenzeneE.GIF
 Isn't that sweet?

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#617374 — tainty

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-07 08:30 -0800
Subjecttainty
Message-ID<27f27f40-c4b6-4609-9fab-ec6c9c541b90@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#617369
it is only uncertainy due to instrumentation
of you big guys in the lab, trying to l00k
at misteR Electron on his keplerian thingy;
what, is the antifocus

> Current theory
> would have it that this electron
> 'delocalises' or whatever, 'spreading out'
> around the ring, somehow. I don't 
> see how this is possible, classically.
> 
> Look at the six green electrons in the
> animation, below. They each follow a
> path identical to each of the yellow and
> red ones. The only difference? They are
> in that pathway ALONE. They are in
> a molecular bond ALONE.
> They are a true half-bond!!
>  http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/BenzeneE.GIF
>  Isn't that sweet?

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