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The electron goes fast

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2016-10-31 00:41 -0700
Last post2016-11-26 10:26 -0600
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  The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 00:41 -0700
    The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 02:43 -0700
      The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 07:22 -0700
        Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 10:07 -0500
          Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 10:13 -0500
            Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 08:28 -0700
              Re: The electron goes fast Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 17:01 +0100
              Re: The electron goes fast Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-31 14:08 -0500
                Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-06 23:18 -0800
                Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-06 23:25 -0800
                  Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-07 03:20 -0800
                    Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 03:33 -0800
                      Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-07 04:49 -0800
              Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 08:14 -0500
              Re: The electron goes fast Earle Jones27 <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2016-11-02 11:14 -0700
                Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 11:36 -0700
                  Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 12:10 -0700
                    Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-02 12:25 -0700
                  Re: The electron goes fast Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 14:29 -0700
                    Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-03 10:21 -0700
                      Re: The electron goes fast Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-11-03 12:30 -0500
                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-03 21:32 -0700
                        Re: The electron goes fast Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 08:36 -0700
                          Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 08:48 -0700
                            Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 07:23 -0800
                              Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 07:32 -0800
                                Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 07:56 -0800
                                Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-07 18:09 -0500
                                  Re: The electron goes fast Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 15:53 -0800
                                    Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-07 19:32 -0500
                                  Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 16:05 -0800
                                    Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-07 19:28 -0500
                                      Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 04:45 -0800
                                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 04:56 -0800
                                        Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-08 16:07 -0500
                                          Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 15:58 -0800
                                            Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-08 20:00 -0500
                              Re: The electron goes fast Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-11-06 13:47 -0800
                                Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 16:14 -0800
                                  Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 16:23 -0800
                                  Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-07 02:11 +0000
                                    Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 22:36 -0800
                                      Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-07 15:30 +0000
                              Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:07 -0600
                                Re: The electron goes fast Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-11-07 10:10 -0600
                                Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 10:30 -0800
                            Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 13:46 -0600
                      Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-03 11:24 -0700
              Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-06 23:13 -0800
                Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-08 08:57 -0800
                  Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-08 17:24 +0000
                  Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-09 00:39 -0800
        Re: The electron goes fast Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 10:05 -0700
          Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 08:14 -0500
            Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 08:29 -0700
              Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 13:50 -0600
            Re: The electron goes fast Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 09:50 -0700
              Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 13:56 -0600
                Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-12 00:24 -0800
                  Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 00:32 -0800
                    Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-12 07:19 -0800
                      Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-12 07:28 -0800
                    Re: The electron goes fast Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 08:46 -0800
                Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-12 00:39 -0800
        The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 10:14 -0700
    Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 11:19 -0700
      Re: The electron goes fast pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-10-31 11:44 -0700
        Re: The electron goes fast Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-31 14:09 -0500
          Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 05:47 -0700
      Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-31 11:58 -0700
      Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0700
        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:57 -0700
          Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 15:34 -0700
          Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-01 18:49 -0400
            Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 16:33 -0700
              Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-01 19:44 -0400
              Re: The electron goes fast Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 09:39 -0700
                Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 09:42 -0700
                  Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-02 17:06 -0400
          Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:00 -0600
            Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-07 07:19 -0800
    Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 12:08 -0700
    Re: The electron goes fast Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 12:43 -0800
      Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 12:57 -0800
        Re: The electron goes fast Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-11-08 11:46 -0800
          Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 12:39 -0800
            Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-08 16:24 -0500
              Re: The electron goes fast Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-11-10 14:21 -0800
                Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-10 18:42 -0500
                  Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 17:52 -0800
                    Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-11 05:25 -0800
                      Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 08:20 -0800
                        Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 10:51 -0600
                          Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 10:06 -0800
                            Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-12 19:49 -0500
                              Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 04:54 -0800
                                Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 05:51 -0800
                                  Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 07:12 -0800
                                    Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 10:01 -0800
                                      Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 10:31 -0800
                                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 11:41 -0800
                                          Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 04:20 -0800
                                            Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 05:35 -0800
                                              Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 06:35 -0800
                                                Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 07:39 -0800
                                                  Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 09:34 -0800
                                                    Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 09:40 -0800
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 09:55 -0800
                                                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 10:06 -0800
                                                          Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-15 02:27 +0000
                                                            Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 06:15 -0800
                                                              Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 06:24 -0800
                                                                Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 07:13 -0800
                                                                  Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-15 16:49 +0000
                                                                Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-15 16:47 +0000
                                                                Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-16 09:24 -0800
                                                                  Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 11:58 -0600
                                                                    Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 15:00 -0800
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 15:18 -0800
                                                                        Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 09:50 -0600
                                                                        Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-18 17:30 -0500
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-16 19:02 -0500
                                                                        Re: The electron goes fast sdf <sdf@sdf.sdf> - 2016-11-17 20:48 +0000
                                                              Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-15 16:45 +0000
                                                                Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 09:05 -0800
                                                                  Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 09:15 -0800
                                                                    Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 09:19 -0800
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 11:37 -0600
                                                                        Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-15 19:32 -0500
                                                                    Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-15 18:22 +0000
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-15 19:30 -0500
                                                                  Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-15 17:28 -0500
                                                              Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 11:34 -0600
                                                                Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 09:51 -0800
                                                                  Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 12:56 -0600
                                                                Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-16 09:47 -0800
                                                                  Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 11:52 -0600
                                                                    Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-17 01:09 -0800
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 09:58 -0600
                                                                        Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-19 00:41 -0800
                                                                          Re: The electron goes fast "F.Art.Ingatu" <F.Art.Ingatu@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-19 07:58 -0800
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 12:40 -0800
                                                        Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-14 19:10 -0500
                                                  Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-14 18:56 -0500
                                                  Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-15 02:17 +0000
                                            Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-14 18:55 -0500
                                              Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 17:39 -0800
                                                Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-15 17:14 -0500
                                                  Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 04:47 -0800
                                                    Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-16 18:39 -0500
                                              trons go keplerian; that is hwat the four quantum numbers are noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 19:41 -0800
                                        Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-14 18:49 -0500
                                        Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 03:42 -0800
                                          Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 04:06 -0800
                                            Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 09:56 -0800
                                              Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-15 10:54 -0800
                                                Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 12:03 -0800
                                              Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 12:17 -0800
                                                Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 13:46 -0800
                                                Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-15 17:40 -0500
                                              Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-15 17:33 -0500
                                            Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-15 17:22 -0500
                                          Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-15 19:37 -0500
                                            Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 21:52 -0800
                                              Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 04:42 -0800
                                                Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 07:54 -0800
                                                  Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 08:39 -0800
                                                    Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 15:24 -0800
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 17:03 -0800
                                                        Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 17:33 -0800
                                                        Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-18 17:51 -0500
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-18 17:33 -0500
                                                    Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-16 18:52 -0500
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 16:58 -0800
                                                        Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-18 17:36 -0500
                                                  Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-16 08:52 -0800
                                                Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-16 18:36 -0500
                                                  Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 17:09 -0800
                                                    Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-18 17:53 -0500
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 16:07 -0800
                                                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 16:20 -0800
                                                        Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-18 19:52 -0500
                                              Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-16 18:28 -0500
                                                Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 17:02 -0800
                                                  Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-18 17:46 -0500
                                                    Re: The electron goes fast Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 17:56 -0800
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-19 18:19 -0500
                                      Re: The electron goes fast "Amazing Distilled Wolverine" <lol_ima_fgt@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 14:00 -0800
                                    Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-14 18:42 -0500
                                Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-14 18:40 -0500
                        Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-11 15:36 -0800
                          Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 18:10 -0800
                            Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 20:29 -0800
                              Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-12 14:48 -0800
                                Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 16:21 -0800
                                  Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 07:37 -0600
                                    Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 07:43 -0800
                                      Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 10:29 -0600
                                  Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-14 07:55 -0800
                                    Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 07:58 -0800
                                      Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 08:15 -0800
                                        Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 10:35 -0600
                                        Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-14 11:42 -0800
                                          Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 12:13 -0800
                                      Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 10:32 -0600
                                      Re: The electron goes fast Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 10:41 -0800
                                    Re: The electron goes fast noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 11:15 -0800
                                    Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-15 08:53 -0800
                            Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 09:04 -0600
                              Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 07:18 -0800
                                Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 09:32 -0600
                                  Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 08:40 -0800
                                    Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 07:35 -0600
                            Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-12 19:55 -0500
            Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 11:13 -0800
              Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-11 14:04 -0800
    Re: The electron goes fast numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-18 16:14 -0800
    Re: The electron goes fast numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-18 16:23 -0800
      Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 12:09 -0800
        Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-20 13:55 -0800
        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 14:32 -0800
          Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 07:54 -0600
            Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 06:06 -0800
              Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 08:25 -0600
                Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 06:28 -0800
                  Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 08:49 -0600
                  Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-21 16:44 +0000
                    Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 10:33 -0800
                      Re: The electron goes fast "F.Art.Ingatu" <F.Art.Ingatu@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-21 10:41 -0800
                      Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 12:48 -0600
                        Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 10:54 -0800
                          Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 11:36 -0800
                            Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 11:57 -0800
                              Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 12:31 -0800
                              Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 14:57 -0600
                                Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 13:13 -0800
                                  Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 07:17 -0600
                                    Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 05:59 -0800
                                      Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-22 17:20 +0000
                                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 09:43 -0800
                                          Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 11:50 -0600
                                            Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-22 17:52 -0500
                                              Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 18:06 -0800
                                                Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-22 20:11 -0800
                                                Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 04:14 -0800
                                                  Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-23 18:35 -0500
                                                    Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 15:43 -0800
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-25 22:30 -0800
                                                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 00:02 -0800
                                                          Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-26 12:06 +0000
                                                            Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 13:56 -0800
                                                              Re: The electron goes fast pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-11-26 14:13 -0800
                                                                Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 14:49 -0800
                                                                  Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-26 15:37 -0800
                                                                  Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 12:42 -0800
                                                                    Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-01 16:15 -0800
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 12:28 -0800
                                                                    Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 13:42 -0800
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-06 13:51 -0800
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 04:23 -0800
                                                                        Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-07 07:42 -0800
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 09:57 -0800
                                                                        Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-07 11:01 -0800
                                                              Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 17:17 -0600
                                                              Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-26 23:23 +0000
                                                              Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-27 14:53 -0800
                                                          Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-27 13:57 -0800
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 09:43 -0600
                                                    Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-24 01:15 +0000
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-26 19:50 -0500
                                                        Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-27 02:23 +0000
                                                          Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-26 22:07 -0500
                                                            Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-27 04:03 +0000
                                                              Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-28 16:26 -0500
                                                                Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-29 01:35 +0000
                                                                  Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-29 17:35 -0500
                                                                    Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-29 23:35 +0000
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-29 19:14 -0500
                                                                        Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-30 01:22 +0000
                                                                          Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-29 21:41 -0500
                                                                            Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-30 05:54 +0000
                                                    Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-24 06:08 -0800
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-26 19:54 -0500
                                                        Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-27 02:25 +0000
                                                          Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-26 22:11 -0500
                                                            Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-27 04:05 +0000
                                                              Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-28 16:27 -0500
                                                                Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-29 01:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-29 17:36 -0500
                                                                    Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-29 23:36 +0000
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-29 19:15 -0500
                                                                        Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-30 01:23 +0000
                                                                          Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-29 21:41 -0500
                                                                            Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-30 05:55 +0000
                                                        Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 08:29 -0800
                                                          Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-28 16:44 -0500
                                                            Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-29 01:38 +0000
                                                              Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-29 17:36 -0500
                                                                Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-29 23:38 +0000
                                                                  Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-29 19:15 -0500
                                                                    Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-30 01:25 +0000
                                                                      Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-29 21:41 -0500
                                                                        Re: The electron goes fast jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-11-30 05:56 +0000
                                                            Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 12:55 -0800
                                                              Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-01 16:44 -0500
                                                Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:21 -0600
                                          Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-22 20:23 +0000
                                          Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-22 20:08 -0800
                                      Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 11:51 -0600
                                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 10:19 -0800
                                          Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-22 20:26 +0000
                              Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-21 22:18 -0800
                            Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-21 12:32 -0800
                          Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-21 12:19 -0800
                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 11:20 -0800
                          Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 14:02 -0600
                            Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-22 22:46 -0800
                              Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:22 -0600
                                Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 07:28 -0800
                                  Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:49 -0600
                                  Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 10:32 -0600
                                    Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 08:41 -0800
                                      Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 11:00 -0600
                                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:14 -0800
                                          Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:21 -0800
                                            Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 11:56 -0600
                                              Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 10:06 -0800
                                          Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 11:52 -0600
                                          Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-23 18:13 +0000
                                      Re: The electron goes fast edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-23 11:06 -0800
                                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 14:20 -0800
                                        Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 14:26 -0800
                                          Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 14:36 -0800
                                            Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-23 19:10 -0500
                                              Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 16:47 -0800
                                                Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 09:47 -0600
                                              Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-24 06:10 -0800
                                                Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-24 06:17 -0800
                                                  Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-24 08:40 -0800
                                                    Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-24 09:06 -0800
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-24 15:40 -0800
                                                      Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-25 03:17 +0000
                                                  Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-26 19:58 -0500
                                                Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-26 19:57 -0500
                                          Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 16:39 -0600
                                            Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 14:53 -0800
                                              Re: The electron goes fast moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-24 06:29 +0000
                                              Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 09:41 -0600
                                Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-23 22:55 -0800
                                  Re: The electron goes fast Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 09:49 -0600
                      Re: The electron goes fast HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 11:30 -0800
                        Re: The electron goes fast poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-11-22 22:41 -0800
        Re: The electron goes fast "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 09:54 -0800
          Re: The electron goes fast "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-21 10:32 -0800
    Re: The electron goes fast numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-18 16:41 -0800
      Re: The electron goes fast benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-18 19:56 -0500
    Re: The electron goes fast numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-18 16:43 -0800
    Re: The electron goes fast numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-19 15:53 -0800
    Re: The electron goes fast numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-19 17:24 -0800
    Re: The electron goes fast numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-19 17:26 -0800
    Re: The electron goes fast numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-19 17:29 -0800
    Re: The electron goes fast numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-19 17:30 -0800
      Re: The electron goes fast john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-19 20:35 -0800
        Re: The electron goes fast Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-11-26 10:26 -0600

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#603950

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-11-07 02:11 +0000
Message-ID<nvonta$4a7$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#603939
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Well, Dr Hu's "Junius helix" is just the
>pathway followed by EVERY POINT
>within a disc that rotates once every 
>time it precesses once.
>And, if you're going 10% of the speed
>of light around a 10^-09m sphere,
>you need a path that repeats as often
>as possible, and keeps a constant
>acceleration.

But it is still accelerating, John, by following a curved path.  So it
would be constantly be radiating electromagnetic energy, so the electron
would spiral inward and crash.  And there's nothing forcing it into such a
path, and there's Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, and, and...

Why are you so obsessed with stupid precessing spinny things that you
are constantly trying to come up with them as physics law violating
electron orbits? We already know the shapes of orbitals from molecule 
shapes and Schrodinger's Equations, and retarded precessing spinny things 
aren't a factor.

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#603960

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-06 22:36 -0800
Message-ID<478744a7-5f11-4a2b-b71a-adf730dfa4c5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#603950
Michael
"would be constantly be radiating electromagnetic energy, so the electron 
would spiral inward and crash"

You really think that? Why?

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#603979

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-11-07 15:30 +0000
Message-ID<nvq6nh$g60$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#603960
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>"would be constantly be radiating electromagnetic energy, so the electron 
>would spiral inward and crash"

>You really think that? Why?

1) Because that is actually what is observed.
2) Electromagnetic theory predicts it, and the preduction
matches what is observed.

Google "bremsstrahlung".
Did you ever wonder why the CERN collider was built with a
circumference of 27 km/17 miles? It's to keep the beamline
as straight as possible so the beam doesn't radiate away all
the energy being given to the beam.

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#603976

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-07 09:07 -0600
Message-ID<nvq5bc$3qe$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#603892
On 11/6/2016 9:23 AM, john wrote:
> So.
> The electron goes fast.
> But if it simply described
> a circle around the atom,
> it will be constantly
> accelerating in ONE plane.

But no model of the atom has it going around in a circle in the first 
place. Why do you think anyone thought it did?




-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#603981

FromYuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com>
Date2016-11-07 10:10 -0600
Message-ID<nvq911$bif$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#603976
On 11/7/2016 9:07 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 11/6/2016 9:23 AM, john wrote:
>> So.
>> The electron goes fast.
>> But if it simply described
>> a circle around the atom,
>> it will be constantly
>> accelerating in ONE plane.
>
> But no model of the atom has it going around in a circle in the first
> place. Why do you think anyone thought it did?
>
>
>
>


that is what they had in the public movies on TV and in the schools in 
the 1950's

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#603990

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-07 10:30 -0800
Message-ID<6c5eb19e-77b5-4ae0-bc33-435facabdbb2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#603976
On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:07:30 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 11/6/2016 9:23 AM, john wrote:
> > So.
> > The electron goes fast.
> > But if it simply described
> > a circle around the atom,
> > it will be constantly
> > accelerating in ONE plane.
> 
> But no model of the atom has it going around in a circle in the first 
> place. Why do you think anyone thought it did?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Bohr did  Trebert

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#604003

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-07 13:46 -0600
Message-ID<nvqlmg$1alr$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#603729
On 11/4/2016 10:48 AM, john wrote:
> And c is 3 X 10^8
> So you're ~10% now
>

And Alan Folmsbee calculated it wrong.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#603648

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-11-03 11:24 -0700
Message-ID<nvfvju$j31$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#603632
"I have good reasoning" said <http://tinyurl.com/Glazier-the-Lying-Swine> 
who is a Cretin, a Face shitter & a Criminal Graveyard Vandal 
doing this <http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
[1] to his crowd of "Anon Y Mouse" &  8 other Glazier-shit-
eaters of the <http://tinyurl.com/Recalcitrant-Swine-Glazier> 
>
hanson wrote:
Glazier, what is that "good reasoning" you have?

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#603961

Fromporaty350@gmail.com
Date2016-11-06 23:13 -0800
Message-ID<dcc01d7c-189c-4617-b630-5e84be40c49a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#603100
On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 5:28:23 PM UTC+2, john wrote:
> Well, the Carbon atom is 10^-9 meters.
> Recent measurements of electrons'
> periods is 10^-16 seconds.
> They have to be going at least
> PI times 10^-9, so
> 3 X 10^7 meters per second,
> or 10% of lightspeed.
> I typed that AND figured it out
> in 45 seconds.
==================================
the elctr0n is not a point particle !!
see
Google
'The Y Porat Model - an abstract'

TIA
Y.Porat
============================ 

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#604117

Fromedprochak@gmail.com
Date2016-11-08 08:57 -0800
Message-ID<fb5096a2-949a-4c1d-ba11-7417334459cd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#603961
On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 2:13:47 AM UTC-5, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
[]
> the elctr0n is not a point particle !!
> see
> Google
> 'The Y Porat Model - an abstract'
> 
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ============================

Show some evidence. I've looked at your paper before.

After 14 years, you still haven't made it any easier to read.

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#604124

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-11-08 17:24 +0000
Message-ID<nvt1ot$jql$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#604117
edprochak@gmail.com writes:

>On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 2:13:47 AM UTC-5, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
>[]
>> the elctr0n is not a point particle !!
>> see
>> Google
>> 'The Y Porat Model - an abstract'
>> 
>> TIA
>> Y.Porat
>> ============================

>Show some evidence. I've looked at your paper before.

>After 14 years, you still haven't made it any easier to read.

And learn how to spell!
(or how to use a spellchecker)

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#604265

Fromporaty350@gmail.com
Date2016-11-09 00:39 -0800
Message-ID<29438b69-b884-4c15-afd7-92e3997e0ef0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#604117
On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 6:57:39 PM UTC+2, edpr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 2:13:47 AM UTC-5, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> []
> > the elctr0n is not a point particle !!
> > see
> > Google
> > 'The Y Porat Model - an abstract'
> > 
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ============================
> 
> Show some evidence. I've looked at your paper before.
> 
> After 14 years, you still haven't made it any easier to read.
=============================================
(:-)
not east to read ??

it is a new discovered  'continent 
while Spanish people came forst to America

they understood nothn
about America
and the * Indian*
a new  found continents !!
========
it will take me a few Semesters 
to teach you what I worked on 
more than 5  of my best  years !!

it includes
3D skills ability
education. practice 
chemical knowledge
nuclear knowledge including isotopes 
crystalline knowledge  (see some of my 
basic crystalline sketches 
and not least
more than 5years
of day and  night persistent  work 
and excuse me
some 
creative  imagination
MORE THAN A THOUSANT STIAL AND ERRROR CALCULATIONS 
ITIS CALLED IN MATHEMATICS
THE **ITTERATION** SYSTEM 

mind you 
even the most advanced computer
is solving complicated many unknown items  etc
BY THE ITTERATION SYSTEM !!!
AND STILL NO EXOSTING COMPUTER
CAN COMPEET THE 
CREATIVITY 
OF A HUMAN MIND 
2
I suggest that if you are really interested
just let us do it step by stem
by SOECIFIC 
questions and answers
================================
TIA
Y.Porat
==================================== 

   

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#603114

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-31 10:05 -0700
Message-ID<ede38058-c9b0-4017-a30a-743faf3174ad@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#603092
On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 4:22:31 AM UTC-10, john wrote:
> HVAC
> How fast does it go?

The electron velocity v can be calculated from this unification theory :

v = E/p  = energy / momentum

E = 938 MeV for proton, electrons share proton wave function velocity

p = zAk / GtN = momentum inside proton * k/G

p = 4.9 (4 pi 6378000^2) 9*10^9 / (6.67*10^-11 *  3.569*10^51 baryons)

where t is 1 second, z is 4.9 meters, A is area of Earth, k is Coulomb's constant, G is Newton's constant, N is number of baryons in Earth

v = E / p = 1.6*10^-19 * 9.38*10^8 / ( 4.9 (4 pi 6378000^2) 9*10^9 / (6.67*10^-11 *  3.569*10^51))

mantissa

v = 1.6*9.38*6.67*3.569 / 4.9*4*pi*(6378000^2)*9 = 1.586*10^-14

exponents

v = 10^(-19+8-11+51-9) = 10^20

v = 1.586*10^6 meter / second

c/v = 299/1.586 = 188

v = c / 188

The electron's characteristic velocity is 188 times slower than the speed of light, c.

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#603463

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-02 08:14 -0500
Message-ID<nvcor6$164g$7@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#603114
On 10/31/2016 12:05 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 4:22:31 AM UTC-10, john wrote:
>> HVAC
>> How fast does it go?
>
> The electron velocity v can be calculated from this unification theory :
>
> v = E/p  = energy / momentum
>
> E = 938 MeV for proton, electrons share proton wave function velocity
>
> p = zAk / GtN = momentum inside proton * k/G
>
> p = 4.9 (4 pi 6378000^2) 9*10^9 / (6.67*10^-11 *  3.569*10^51 baryons)
>
> where t is 1 second, z is 4.9 meters, A is area of Earth, k is Coulomb's constant, G is
> Newton's constant, N is number of baryons in Earth
>
> v = E / p = 1.6*10^-19 * 9.38*10^8 / ( 4.9 (4 pi 6378000^2) 9*10^9 / (6.67*10^-11 *  3.569*10^51))
>
> mantissa
>
> v = 1.6*9.38*6.67*3.569 / 4.9*4*pi*(6378000^2)*9 = 1.586*10^-14
>
> exponents
>
> v = 10^(-19+8-11+51-9) = 10^20
>
> v = 1.586*10^6 meter / second
>
> c/v = 299/1.586 = 188
>
> v = c / 188
>
> The electron's characteristic velocity is 188 times slower than the speed of light, c.
>


Just curious, Alan. Suppose you do a calculation like this. Is it 
immediately valuable to you because you can come up with a number? Or is 
there a step where you check to see whether the number actually agrees 
with experiment? What would you say about your calculation if it were 
true that your number was wrong, according to experimental measurement?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#603471

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-02 08:29 -0700
Message-ID<c70fb71b-b7c4-43ed-8420-7cd7b351aae2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#603463
Odd
"Just curious, Alan. Suppose you do a calculation like this. Is it 
immediately valuable to you because you can come up with a number? Or is 
there a step where you check to see whether the number actually agrees 
with experiment? What would you say about your calculation if it were 
true that your number was wrong, according to experimental measurement? "

Funny.
I was going to ask you the same, Odd:
the electrons period has been
measured to be about 10^-16seconds
by several groups.

If it were describing a CIRCLE the size
of a Carbon atom- 3 X 10^-09meters,
it must go AT LEAST 3 X 10^7 m/sec,
which is 10% of light speed.

But you ignore THAT experimental data.
Why?
Which data are you going by?

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#604005

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-07 13:50 -0600
Message-ID<nvqlua$1alr$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#603471
On 11/2/2016 10:29 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> "Just curious, Alan. Suppose you do a calculation like this. Is it
> immediately valuable to you because you can come up with a number? Or is
> there a step where you check to see whether the number actually agrees
> with experiment? What would you say about your calculation if it were
> true that your number was wrong, according to experimental measurement? "
>
> Funny.
> I was going to ask you the same, Odd:
> the electrons period has been
> measured to be about 10^-16seconds
> by several groups.
>
> If it were describing a CIRCLE the size
> of a Carbon atom- 3 X 10^-09meters,

But it's NOT a circle, John. The calculations I gave you are consistent 
with quantum mechanics, and consistent with the measurements you cite. 
What you did is add a spurious IF to generated your number, and since 
that IF is wrong, of course your answer for the speed is wrong.

> it must go AT LEAST 3 X 10^7 m/sec,
> which is 10% of light speed.
>
> But you ignore THAT experimental data.

I'm not ignoring ANY experimental data.

> Why?
> Which data are you going by?
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#603482

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-02 09:50 -0700
Message-ID<4396a327-96a6-49e5-aad0-9d04069b960a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#603463
On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 3:14:18 AM UTC-10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 10/31/2016 12:05 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> > On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 4:22:31 AM UTC-10, john wrote:
> >> HVAC
> >> How fast does it go?
> >
> > The electron velocity v can be calculated from this unification theory :
> >
> > v = E/p  = energy / momentum
> >
> > E = 938 MeV for proton, electrons share proton wave function velocity
> >
> > p = zAk / GtN = momentum inside proton * k/G
> >
> > p = 4.9 (4 pi 6378000^2) 9*10^9 / (6.67*10^-11 *  3.569*10^51 baryons)
> >
> > where t is 1 second, z is 4.9 meters, A is area of Earth, k is Coulomb's constant, G is
> > Newton's constant, N is number of baryons in Earth
> >
> > v = E / p = 1.6*10^-19 * 9.38*10^8 / ( 4.9 (4 pi 6378000^2) 9*10^9 / (6.67*10^-11 *  3.569*10^51))
> >
> > mantissa
> >
> > v = 1.6*9.38*6.67*3.569 / 4.9*4*pi*(6378000^2)*9 = 1.586*10^-14
> >
> > exponents
> >
> > v = 10^(-19+8-11+51-9) = 10^20
> >
> > v = 1.586*10^6 meter / second
> >
> > c/v = 299/1.586 = 188
> >
> > v = c / 188
> >
> > The electron's characteristic velocity is 188 times slower than the speed of light, c.
> >
> 
> 
> Just curious, Alan. Suppose you do a calculation like this. Is it 
> immediately valuable to you because you can come up with a number? Or is 
> there a step where you check to see whether the number actually agrees 
> with experiment? What would you say about your calculation if it were 
> true that your number was wrong, according to experimental measurement?
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Odd asked:
Just curious, Alan. Suppose you do a calculation like this. Is it 
immediately valuable to you because you can come up with a number? 

No, I calculated that speed a year ago. 1/188 is near to 1/137 = alpha. The Fine Structure Constant has been said to be a velocity estimate for electron speed.

Or is 
there a step where you check to see whether the number actually agrees 
with experiment?

Yes I checked for c/188 being related to past working experiments. Alpha = c/137

 What would you say about your calculation if it were 
true that your number was wrong, according to experimental measurement? 

I would say that progress is being made. Old science is a mess. I bring order to chaos. The new "Traction Theory" is now being written up.

John asked,

the electrons period has been 
measured to be about 10^-16seconds 
by several groups. 

If it were describing a CIRCLE the size 
of a Carbon atom- 3 X 10^-09meters, 
it must go AT LEAST 3 X 10^7 m/sec, 
which is 10% of light speed. 

But you ignore THAT experimental data. 
Why?

Because that is news to me. Please give ref 


Which data are you going by? 

938MeV is in a big book.

My theories are new, advanced, and leading the progress towards The Generator.

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#604007

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-07 13:56 -0600
Message-ID<nvqm9i$1ch9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#603482
On 11/2/2016 11:50 AM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 3:14:18 AM UTC-10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 10/31/2016 12:05 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 4:22:31 AM UTC-10, john wrote:
>>>> HVAC
>>>> How fast does it go?
>>>
>>> The electron velocity v can be calculated from this unification theory :
>>>
>>> v = E/p  = energy / momentum
>>>
>>> E = 938 MeV for proton, electrons share proton wave function velocity
>>>
>>> p = zAk / GtN = momentum inside proton * k/G
>>>
>>> p = 4.9 (4 pi 6378000^2) 9*10^9 / (6.67*10^-11 *  3.569*10^51 baryons)
>>>
>>> where t is 1 second, z is 4.9 meters, A is area of Earth, k is Coulomb's constant, G is
>>> Newton's constant, N is number of baryons in Earth
>>>
>>> v = E / p = 1.6*10^-19 * 9.38*10^8 / ( 4.9 (4 pi 6378000^2) 9*10^9 / (6.67*10^-11 *  3.569*10^51))
>>>
>>> mantissa
>>>
>>> v = 1.6*9.38*6.67*3.569 / 4.9*4*pi*(6378000^2)*9 = 1.586*10^-14
>>>
>>> exponents
>>>
>>> v = 10^(-19+8-11+51-9) = 10^20
>>>
>>> v = 1.586*10^6 meter / second
>>>
>>> c/v = 299/1.586 = 188
>>>
>>> v = c / 188
>>>
>>> The electron's characteristic velocity is 188 times slower than the speed of light, c.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Just curious, Alan. Suppose you do a calculation like this. Is it
>> immediately valuable to you because you can come up with a number? Or is
>> there a step where you check to see whether the number actually agrees
>> with experiment? What would you say about your calculation if it were
>> true that your number was wrong, according to experimental measurement?
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> Odd asked:
> Just curious, Alan. Suppose you do a calculation like this. Is it
> immediately valuable to you because you can come up with a number?
>
> No, I calculated that speed a year ago. 1/188 is near to 1/137 = alpha.
> The Fine Structure Constant has been said to be a velocity estimate for
> electron speed.7

I don't think they're that close, Alan. It's a 37% difference.

>
> Or is
> there a step where you check to see whether the number actually agrees
> with experiment?
>
> Yes I checked for c/188 being related to past working experiments. Alpha = c/137
>
>  What would you say about your calculation if it were
> true that your number was wrong, according to experimental measurement?
>
> I would say that progress is being made. Old science is a mess.

What makes you think it's a mess? Give something a think: I calculated a 
number using quantum mechanics for hydrogen and got a number of 0.7%c. 
You calculated a number and came up with 0.5%c. The fine structure 
constant has a value of 0.007, right on top of the number I calculated, 
and you say you are "close". If "old science" gives the number dead on 
the money, and you are only "close", what makes you think your ideas are 
better?

> I bring order to chaos. The new "Traction Theory" is now being written up.
>
> John asked,
>
> the electrons period has been
> measured to be about 10^-16seconds
> by several groups.
>
> If it were describing a CIRCLE the size
> of a Carbon atom- 3 X 10^-09meters,
> it must go AT LEAST 3 X 10^7 m/sec,
> which is 10% of light speed.
>
> But you ignore THAT experimental data.
> Why?
>
> Because that is news to me. Please give ref
>
>
> Which data are you going by?
>
> 938MeV is in a big book.
>
> My theories are new, advanced, and leading the progress
> towards The Generator.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#604501

Fromporaty350@gmail.com
Date2016-11-12 00:24 -0800
Message-ID<845c6b8c-120e-47c7-991d-35e5f0a15a3b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#604007
On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 9:56:40 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 11/2/2016 11:50 AM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 3:14:18 AM UTC-10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 10/31/2016 12:05 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 4:22:31 AM UTC-10, john wrote:
> >>>> HVAC
> >>>> How fast does it go?
> >>>
> >>> The electron velocity v can be calculated from this unification theory :
> >>>
> >>> v = E/p  = energy / momentum
> >>>
> >>> E = 938 MeV for proton, electrons share proton wave function velocity
> >>>
> >>> p = zAk / GtN = momentum inside proton * k/G
> >>>
> >>> p = 4.9 (4 pi 6378000^2) 9*10^9 / (6.67*10^-11 *  3.569*10^51 baryons)
> >>>
> >>> where t is 1 second, z is 4.9 meters, A is area of Earth, k is Coulomb's constant, G is
> >>> Newton's constant, N is number of baryons in Earth
> >>>
> >>> v = E / p = 1.6*10^-19 * 9.38*10^8 / ( 4.9 (4 pi 6378000^2) 9*10^9 / (6.67*10^-11 *  3.569*10^51))
> >>>
> >>> mantissa
> >>>
> >>> v = 1.6*9.38*6.67*3.569 / 4.9*4*pi*(6378000^2)*9 = 1.586*10^-14
> >>>
> >>> exponents
> >>>
> >>> v = 10^(-19+8-11+51-9) = 10^20
> >>>
> >>> v = 1.586*10^6 meter / second
> >>>
> >>> c/v = 299/1.586 = 188
> >>>
> >>> v = c / 188
> >>>
> >>> The electron's characteristic velocity is 188 times slower than the speed of light, c.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just curious, Alan. Suppose you do a calculation like this. Is it
> >> immediately valuable to you because you can come up with a number? Or is
> >> there a step where you check to see whether the number actually agrees
> >> with experiment? What would you say about your calculation if it were
> >> true that your number was wrong, according to experimental measurement?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> > Odd asked:
> > Just curious, Alan. Suppose you do a calculation like this. Is it
> > immediately valuable to you because you can come up with a number?
> >
> > No, I calculated that speed a year ago. 1/188 is near to 1/137 = alpha.
> > The Fine Structure Constant has been said to be a velocity estimate for
> > electron speed.7
> 
> I don't think they're that close, Alan. It's a 37% difference.
> 
> >
> > Or is
> > there a step where you check to see whether the number actually agrees
> > with experiment?
> >
> > Yes I checked for c/188 being related to past working experiments. Alpha = c/137
> >
> >  What would you say about your calculation if it were
> > true that your number was wrong, according to experimental measurement?
> >
> > I would say that progress is being made. Old science is a mess.
> 
> What makes you think it's a mess? Give something a think: I calculated a 
> number using quantum mechanics for hydrogen and got a number of 0.7%c. 
> You calculated a number and came up with 0.5%c. The fine structure 
> constant has a value of 0.007, right on top of the number I calculated, 
> and you say you are "close". If "old science" gives the number dead on 
> the money, and you are only "close", what makes you think your ideas are 
> better?
> 
> > I bring order to chaos. The new "Traction Theory" is now being written up.
> >
> > John asked,
> >
> > the electrons period has been
> > measured to be about 10^-16seconds
> > by several groups.
> >
> > If it were describing a CIRCLE the size
> > of a Carbon atom- 3 X 10^-09meters,
> > it must go AT LEAST 3 X 10^7 m/sec,
> > which is 10% of light speed.
> >
> > But you ignore THAT experimental data.
> > Why?
> >
> > Because that is news to me. Please give ref
> >
> >
> > Which data are you going by?
> >
> > 938MeV is in a big book.
> >
> > My theories are new, advanced, and leading the progress
> > towards The Generator.
> >===========================
idiot parrot 
THE ELECTRON IS NOT ORBITING THE NUC 
IT IS CONNECTED TO A VERY SPECIFIC OINT IN THE NUC
AND OCIATE (sp ??)(VIBRATE ()HARMONICALLY 
the equation s of orbiting
and oscilation   are the same !!!

see
Google
'The Y Porat Model - an abstract'
(historic innovation !!)
Y.Porat
========================== 
  
 

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#604502

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-12 00:32 -0800
Message-ID<a5248a2c-b1d2-437a-82c2-eaed250b4e44@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#604501
Y
"AND OCIATE (sp ??)(VIBRATE ()HARMONICALLY "

Which would achieve spherical symmetry 
exactly how?

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