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| First post | 2016-09-16 07:00 -0700 |
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E = h f IS A SIMPLE PROVE THAT 'RELATIVIRIC MASS '' IS NONSENCE PHYSICS !! poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-16 07:00 -0700
Re: E = h f IS A SIMPLE PROVE THAT 'RELATIVIRIC MASS '' IS NONSENCE PHYSICS !! poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-17 00:11 -0700
Re: E = h f IS A SIMPLE PROVE THAT 'RELATIVIRIC MASS '' IS NONSENCE PHYSICS !! poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-17 00:39 -0700
Re: E = h f IS A SIMPLE PROVE THAT 'RELATIVIRIC MASS '' IS NONSENCE PHYSICS !! noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 21:04 -0700
Re: E = h f IS A SIMPLE PROVE THAT 'RELATIVIRIC MASS '' IS NONSENCE PHYSICS !! poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-18 00:27 -0700
the rate of expansion in areal terms of the wavefront, is ____ noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 15:41 -0700
Re: the rate of expansion in areal terms of the wavefront, is ____ noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 12:16 -0700
Re: the rate of expansion in areal terms of the wavefront, is ____ poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-19 21:08 -0700
Re: the rate of expansion in areal terms of the wavefront, is ____ (mod pi) noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 13:06 -0700
Re: the rate of expansion in areal terms of the wavefront, is ____ (mod pi) poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-20 21:37 -0700
Re: the rate of expansion in areal terms of the wavefront, is ____ (mod pi) poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-21 05:23 -0700
Re: the rate of expansion in areal terms of the wavefront, is ____ (mod pi) noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 16:11 -0700
Re: the rate of expansion in areal terms of the wavefront, is ____ (mod pi) poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-21 22:14 -0700
areal meters per sec. per sec.(mod pi noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 13:06 -0700
Re: areal meters per sec. per sec.(mod pi poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-22 18:29 -0700
Re: areal meters per sec. per sec.(mod pi poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-22 23:08 -0700
areal meters per sec. per sec.(mod pi) or, "c to the secondpower" noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 11:45 -0700
Re: areal meters per sec. per sec.(mod pi) or, "c to the secondpower" poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-24 01:12 -0700
Re: areal meters per sec. per sec.(mod pi) or, "c to the secondpower" noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 16:11 -0700
Re: areal meters per sec. per sec.(mod pi) or, "c to the secondpower" poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-24 22:52 -0700
"c to the secondpower" noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 10:19 -0700
c*c in, say, spherical units noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 14:09 -0700
Re: c*c in, say, spherical units Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 09:11 +0200
Re: c*c in, say, spherical units poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-28 00:21 -0700
mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 11:36 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 20:46 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 08:50 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 11:02 -0500
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 13:50 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 08:58 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-01 00:07 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 10:59 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 22:33 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-01 02:39 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:51 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-01 11:03 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-01 22:24 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 08:32 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 08:11 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-02 02:08 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:58 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-02 05:33 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-02 05:38 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 20:30 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-02 22:30 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 08:03 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 01:32 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 12:05 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 10:56 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 20:45 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves rbrteline@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 12:50 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 11:08 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-04 03:08 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-04 05:07 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-04 22:26 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 10:35 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-05 23:40 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-05 23:46 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 18:59 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 19:02 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 11:02 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 20:09 +0200
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 23:12 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-06 23:22 -0700
Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 23:09 -0700
Re: c*c in, say, spherical units poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-28 00:14 -0700
Re: areal meters per sec. per sec.(mod pi) or, "c to the secondpower" "Nigel Q. Twatbottom" <moderator@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 19:10 -0700
Re: areal meters per sec. per sec.(mod pi) or, "c to the secondpower" poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-25 04:01 -0700
Re: areal meters per sec. per sec.(mod pi) or, "c to the secondpower" poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-25 04:51 -0700
Re: E = h f IS A SIMPLE PROVE THAT 'RELATIVIRIC MASS '' IS NONSENCE PHYSICS !! "Antonio Mandolin" <PaulButt@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-18 18:37 -0700
Re: E = h f IS A SIMPLE PROVE THAT 'RELATIVIRIC MASS '' IS NONSENCE PHYSICS !! poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-18 21:31 -0700
Re: E = h f IS A SIMPLE PROVE THAT 'RELATIVIRIC MASS '' IS NONSENCE PHYSICS !! poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-25 23:30 -0700
Re: E = h f IS A SIMPLE PROVE THAT 'RELATIVIRIC MASS '' IS NONSENCE PHYSICS !! "Sam Smith" <moderator@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 07:03 -0700
Re: E = h f IS A SIMPLE PROVE THAT 'RELATIVIRIC MASS '' IS NONSENCE PHYSICS !! poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-26 09:04 -0700
Re: E = h f IS A SIMPLE PROVE THAT 'RELATIVIRIC MASS '' IS NONSENCE PHYSICS !! poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-26 19:42 -0700
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-27 10:19 -0700 |
| Subject | "c to the secondpower" |
| Message-ID | <fee423d8-0b2c-415d-8006-c3eb2af2c7ad@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598234 |
top-posting is just a nicety for readability, because
we all know that both of us have said, essentially,
what we have already said ... although
how, anyonce could get any thing out of your English illiteracy,
is another matter
fh is easily converted to the terms of the secondpower of the speed of light,
or c^2, which has nothing to do
witht he regular tetragon (or skware.
my current thunbnail project is
to put pi into the usual representation of E and m and c, because
the secomndpower of the speed of light is just the areal growth
of the wavefront, per seconnd per seond (or
per secondpowered seconds [sik
> > certainly, frequency is defined with respect to the second, but,
> > as there is no integral result in that way,
> please don't top-post !!
> why not integral results ??
> a second is a second
> you must understand that
> had there been no integral or non relativistic elements
> even in a relativistic formula
> NO SOUND FORMULA COULD BE DONE!!
> in more popular explanation
> even n a relativistic formula
> there must be something to 'hold on the formula
> on some sound solid base
> or even more popular explanations
> if even the foundations are not ''''solid
> the hole structure has nothing ;solid
> to hang on it
> and the bottom conclusion:
> in h f
> nothing is
> relativistic !!
> Planck foundit
> 5 years before relativity
>
> NOTHING was IN HIS **EXPERIENTS*
> FROM WHICH IT (h f )--- WAS DERIVED
> relativistic !!
> AND BTW
> mind you
> EVEN c IS NOT RELATIVISTIC
> IT IS A CONSTANT !!!
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> =============================
> ===========================
>
>
> > it has only relative meaning
> ("-)
> (not relativistic,
> > whether or not you make any attempt to know relativity
> >
> > > > IF you cannot use Snell's laW of refraction,
> > > > how can you comprehend any thing about light waves
> > > > in free space, mister bridge-engineer?
> >
> > > all used is the above historic formula of Planck
> > > E=h f
> > > now I will give you a hint
> > > that is MORE THAN enough for
> > > THINKING PEOPE !!
> > > ==================
> > > f is just one second defined !!
> > > ie
> > > NO MORE THAN A SECOND
> > > NO LESS THA A SECOND !!
> > > ================
> > > 2
> > > and still you refuse to answer my above
> > > 3 questions
> > > --------------
> > > 1
> > > does the photon has more energy - than h f
> > > 2
> > > does the photon has less energy than h f
> > > 3
> > > or
> > > it has exactly the energy defined by h f !!
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-27 14:09 -0700 |
| Subject | c*c in, say, spherical units |
| Message-ID | <b8a3821f-7a73-4d82-b102-3139360d6274@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598481 |
the speed of waves of light' wTf is a wave in space, or what is the medium of propogation, or of prepropogation > fh is easily converted to the terms of the secondpower of the speed of light, > or c^2, which has nothing to do > with the regular tetragon (or skware. > > my current thunbnail project is > to put pi into the usual representation of E and m and c, because > the secondpower of the speed of light is just the areal growth > of the wavefront, per seconnd per second (or > per secondpowered seconds [sik > > > > > certainly, frequency is defined with respect to the second, but, > > why not integral results ?? > > a second is a second > > you must understand that > > had there been no integral or non relativistic elements > > even in a relativistic formula > > NO SOUND FORMULA COULD BE DONE!! > > in more popular explanation > > even n a relativistic formula > > there must be something to 'hold on the formula > > on some sound solid base > > or even more popular explanations > > if even the foundations are not ''''solid > > the hole structure has nothing ;solid > > to hang on it > > and the bottom conclusion: > > in h f > > nothing is > > relativistic !! > > Planck foundit > > 5 years before relativity > > > > NOTHING was IN HIS **EXPERIENTS* > > FROM WHICH IT (h f )--- WAS DERIVED > > relativistic !! > > AND BTW > > mind you > > EVEN c IS NOT RELATIVISTIC > > > > > IF you cannot use Snell's laW of refraction, > > > > > how can you comprehend any thing about light waves > > > > > in free space, mister bridge-engineer? > > > > > > > all used is the above historic formula of Planck > > > > E=h f > > > > now I will give you a hint > > > > that is MORE THAN enough for > > > > THINKING PEOPE !! > > > > ================== > > > > f is just one second defined !! > > > > ie > > > > NO MORE THAN A SECOND > > > > NO LESS THA A SECOND !! > > > > ================ > > > > 2 > > > > and still you refuse to answer my above > > > > 3 questions > > > > -------------- > > > > 1 > > > > does the photon has more energy - than h f > > > > 2 > > > > does the photon has less energy than h f > > > > 3 > > > > or > > > > it has exactly the energy defined by h f !!
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-28 09:11 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: c*c in, say, spherical units |
| Message-ID | <nsfqef$p56$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #598536 |
Waves need medium for propagation, if they are osculations of medium. If it is not medium what oscillates, they need not medium. For light, it is EM field that oscillates, and this field is not medium and need not medium. Dne 27/09/2016 v 23:09 noTthaTguY napsal(a): > the speed of waves of light' > wTf is a wave in space, or > what is the medium of propogation, or > of prepropogation > -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-09-28 00:21 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: c*c in, say, spherical units |
| Message-ID | <a70f1028-4b7b-4869-8c92-8fc0f82e8c88@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598626 |
בתאריך יום רביעי, 28 בספטמבר 2016 בשעה 10:11:25 UTC+3, מאת Poutnik Fornntp: > Waves need medium for propagation, > if they are osculations of medium. > > If it is not medium what oscillates, > they need not medium. > > For light, it is EM field that oscillates, > and this field is not medium > and need not medium. > > Dne 27/09/2016 v 23:09 noTthaTguY napsal(a): > > the speed of waves of light' > > wTf is a wave in space, or > > what is the medium of propogation, or > > of prepropogation > > > -- > Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) > Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant. ========================== you are right !! yet still [;ease answer my above 3 questions believe e me *and give me some credit it is very important for some real revolutionary ADVANCE ICS ================= TIA Y.Porat =================================
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-29 11:36 -0700 |
| Subject | mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <ad74782e-8351-44f9-bcd2-c1789d716a64@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598626 |
there is however no absolute or pascalian vacuum, but that was only Pascal's initial ideal, AFAiK; i.e the redshifting is just because of the medium of free space, index of refraction is just less that that of air, 1.0003 > For light, it is EM field that oscillates, > and this field is not medium > and need not medium. > > the speed of waves of light' > > wTf is a wave in space, or > > what is the medium of propogation, or
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-29 20:46 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <nsjnh3$5br$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #598822 |
Dne 29/09/2016 v 20:36 noTthaTguY napsal(a): > there is however no absolute or pascalian vacuum, but > that was only Pascal's initial ideal, AFAiK; Sure, there is not, there are vacuum quantum fluctuations. > i.e the redshifting is just because of the medium of free space, > index of refraction is just less that that of air, > 1.0003 You were informed incorrectly. -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 08:50 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <b4d7b44e-ef48-492a-aeb0-565dc8c1256b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598824 |
בתאריך יום חמישי, 29 בספטמבר 2016 בשעה 21:46:09 UTC+3, מאת Poutnik Fornntp: > Dne 29/09/2016 v 20:36 noTthaTguY napsal(a): > > > there is however no absolute or pascalian vacuum, but > > that was only Pascal's initial ideal, AFAiK; > > Sure, there is not, there are vacuum quantum fluctuations. > > > i.e the redshifting is just because of the medium of free space, > > index of refraction is just less that that of air, > > 1.0003 > > You were informed incorrectly. > > > > -- > Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) > Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant. ===================== ok but you still don't anser my op questions: 1 does the photon has more ** energy than h f 2 does the photon has * less energy than h f ? 3 does the photon has exactly the energy defined by h f ==================== (is it such a difficult question ??) ----- TIA Y.Porat =======================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 11:02 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <nsm2b8$1rin$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #598946 |
On 9/30/2016 10:50 AM, poraty350@gmail.com wrote: > בתאריך יום חמישי, 29 בספטמבר 2016 בשעה 21:46:09 UTC+3, מאת Poutnik Fornntp: >> Dne 29/09/2016 v 20:36 noTthaTguY napsal(a): >> >>> there is however no absolute or pascalian vacuum, but >>> that was only Pascal's initial ideal, AFAiK; >> >> Sure, there is not, there are vacuum quantum fluctuations. >> >>> i.e the redshifting is just because of the medium of free space, >>> index of refraction is just less that that of air, >>> 1.0003 >> >> You were informed incorrectly. >> >> >> >> -- >> Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) >> Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant. > ===================== > ok > but you still don't anser my op questions: > > 1 > does the photon has more ** energy than h f No. > 2 > does the photon has * less energy than h f ? No. > 3 > does the photon has exactly the energy defined by h f Yes. > ==================== > (is it such a difficult question ??) No. In fact someone already answered them. How many responses do you need? > ----- > TIA > Y.Porat > ======================= > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 13:50 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <9bc70ece-7630-4866-97af-6ef6ae134bbf@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598949 |
it is easy to see, mod pi, that the wavefront expanding at the secondpower of c, goes through greater & greater quanta of epectromagnetic entities, commonly known as atoms. see about the Ampere-Gauss-Weber electrodynamics, wherein the constant is actually the secondr00t of two TIMES c ... but, why, I'm not really sure > >> Sure, there is not, there are vacuum quantum fluctuations. > >> > >>> i.e the redshifting is just because of the medium of free space, > >>> index of refraction is just less that that of air, > >>> 1.0003
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 08:58 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <nsnmr2$b6g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #598987 |
Dne 30/09/2016 v 22:50 noTthaTguY napsal(a): >>>> Sure, there is not, there are vacuum quantum fluctuations. >>>> >>>>> i.e the redshifting is just because of the medium of free space, >>>>> index of refraction is just less that that of air, >>>>> 1.0003 > it is easy to see, mod pi, that > the wavefront expanding at the secondpower of c, What physical quantity has dimension of second power of velocity ? > goes through greater & greater quanta of epectromagnetic entities, > commonly known as atoms. > > see about the Ampere-Gauss-Weber electrodynamics, > wherein the constant is actually the secondr00t of two TIMES c ... but, > why, I'm not really sure > Who did you quote text parts not belonging each other ? Why does your post have a problematic realted to the quote ? In the intergalactic space there is several atoms per cubic meter and quantum vacuum between them. BTW, I am not mod pi. -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 00:07 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <0cef0917-3a44-4a62-b0ed-43f6504fb30d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599022 |
On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 9:58:58 AM UTC+3, Poutnik Fornntp wrote: > Dne 30/09/2016 v 22:50 noTthaTguY napsal(a): > > >>>> Sure, there is not, there are vacuum quantum fluctuations. > >>>> > >>>>> i.e the redshifting is just because of the medium of free space, > >>>>> index of refraction is just less that that of air, > >>>>> 1.0003 > > > it is easy to see, mod pi, that > > the wavefront expanding at the secondpower of c, > > What physical quantity has dimension of second power of velocity ? > > > goes through greater & greater quanta of epectromagnetic entities, > > commonly known as atoms. > > > > see about the Ampere-Gauss-Weber electrodynamics, > > wherein the constant is actually the secondr00t of two TIMES c ... but, > > why, I'm not really sure > > > > Who did you quote text parts not belonging each other ? > Why does your post have a problematic realted to the quote ? > > In the intergalactic space there is several atoms per cubic meter > and quantum vacuum between them. > > BTW, I am not mod pi. > > > > -- > Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) > Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.================== ======================= to whom you are responding ?? 2 don't top post Y.P ==============================
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 10:59 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <nsntt6$tts$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #599023 |
Dne 01/10/2016 v 09:07 poraty350@gmail.com napsal(a): > ======================= > to whom you are responding ?? > 2 > don't top post > Y.P > ============================== 1/ It is clear from the reply 2/ I do not top post, it was made top-post-like by incorrect quoting. > AAAAAA BBBBB > CCCCC DDDDD was quated as > BBBBB > > CCCCC -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 22:33 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <228ece8b-b52b-4156-a59d-7a49672e811f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598949 |
בתאריך יום שישי, 30 בספטמבר 2016 בשעה 19:02:52 UTC+3, מאת Odd Bodkin: > On 9/30/2016 10:50 AM, poraty350@gmail.com wrote: > > בתאריך יום חמישי, 29 בספטמבר 2016 בשעה 21:46:09 UTC+3, מאת Poutnik Fornntp: > >> Dne 29/09/2016 v 20:36 noTthaTguY napsal(a): > >> > >>> there is however no absolute or pascalian vacuum, but > >>> that was only Pascal's initial ideal, AFAiK; > >> > >> Sure, there is not, there are vacuum quantum fluctuations. > >> > >>> i.e the redshifting is just because of the medium of free space, > >>> index of refraction is just less that that of air, > >>> 1.0003 > >> > >> You were informed incorrectly. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) > >> Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant. > > ===================== > > ok > > but you still don't anser my op questions: > > > > 1 > > does the photon has more ** energy than h f > > No. > > > 2 > > does the photon has * less energy than h f ? > > No. > > > 3 > > does the photon has exactly the energy defined by h f > > Yes. > > > ==================== > > (is it such a difficult question ??) > > No. In fact someone already answered them. How many responses do you need? > > > ----- > > TIA > > Y.Porat > > ======================= Thank you P D (Bodkin - no matter ho0w do you call yourself)!! for coming in !! btw for a man that discovered some of the most secrets of the Atom it is not a great problem to identify the finger prints of a human being 1! === at last I got a honest answer from you !! and not from any one ese in that n g !! that tell something on other members here !!!!!!! ===== BTW I didn't notice that anyone answered it clearly as you !! ---- BUT JUAST NOW COMES THE MORE INTELLIGENT JOB FOR US !! THE ABOVE MEANS THAT INORDER TO ANSWR THE ABOVE QUESTION WE MUST DO THE SECOND INTALLIGENT STEP IE IF h f IS THE COMPREHANSIVE FORMULA FOR PHOTON ENERGY WE HAVE TOTAKE IT AS IS WITHOUT ADDING ON IT NONSENSE OBFUSCATION ATTITIONS !! IE not to add on it not another pc !! not another mc^ etc etc etc because may be you didn't know ANALYSIS --IS TAKING APPART THE COMPONENETS OF AN ISSUE /OBJECT AND EXAMIONING IT PART BY PART !! ---- I o w (in other words ) not to confuse it by mingling deluding deceiving misleading additions on it ie for NET !!photons we have to examine JUST THE FMULA E PHOTON = h f (full stop !! again a a first stage full stop !! full stop at that point !! -- and re examining it it is more than good in order to examine the energy of the photon and not least -- its sub components ie THE MASS IN IT !!! so now will come the nest honest intelligent important analysis ir the **analysis** of ***** physical dimensions of the formula h f not less not more ------ agreed until this point !! TIA Y.Porat ================================
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 02:39 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <2f0e8d38-ada1-4fb4-b673-7347bea5542c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599020 |
בתאריך יום שבת, 1 באוקטובר 2016 בשעה 08:33:16 UTC+3, מאת pora...@gmail.com: > בתאריך יום שישי, 30 בספטמבר 2016 בשעה 19:02:52 UTC+3, מאת Odd Bodkin: > > On 9/30/2016 10:50 AM, poraty350@gmail.com wrote: > > > בתאריך יום חמישי, 29 בספטמבר 2016 בשעה 21:46:09 UTC+3, מאת Poutnik Fornntp: > > >> Dne 29/09/2016 v 20:36 noTthaTguY napsal(a): > > >> > > >>> there is however no absolute or pascalian vacuum, but > > >>> that was only Pascal's initial ideal, AFAiK; > > >> > > >> Sure, there is not, there are vacuum quantum fluctuations. > > >> > > >>> i.e the redshifting is just because of the medium of free space, > > >>> index of refraction is just less that that of air, > > >>> 1.0003 > > >> > > >> You were informed incorrectly. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) > > >> Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant. > > > ===================== > > > ok > > > but you still don't anser my op questions: > > > > > > 1 > > > does the photon has more ** energy than h f > > > > No. > > > > > 2 > > > does the photon has * less energy than h f ? > > > > No. > > > > > 3 > > > does the photon has exactly the energy defined by h f > > > > Yes. > > > > > ==================== > > > (is it such a difficult question ??) > > > > No. In fact someone already answered them. How many responses do you need? > > > > > ----- > > > TIA > > > Y.Porat > > > ======================= > Thank you P D (Bodkin - no matter ho0w do you call yourself)!! > for coming in !! > btw > for a man that discovered some of the most secrets of the Atom > it is not a great problem to identify the > finger prints of a human being 1! > === > at last I got a honest answer from you !! > and not from any one ese in that n g !! > that tell something on other members here !!!!!!! > ===== > BTW > I didn't notice that anyone answered it clearly as you !! > ---- > BUT JUAST NOW COMES THE MORE INTELLIGENT JOB FOR US !! > THE ABOVE MEANS THAT > INORDER TO ANSWR THE ABOVE QUESTION WE MUST DO THE SECOND INTALLIGENT STEP IE > IF h f > IS THE COMPREHANSIVE FORMULA FOR PHOTON ENERGY > WE HAVE TOTAKE IT AS IS > WITHOUT ADDING ON IT > NONSENSE OBFUSCATION ATTITIONS !! > IE > not to add on it > not another pc !! > not another mc^ > etc etc etc > because may be you didn't know > ANALYSIS --IS TAKING APPART THE COMPONENETS OF AN ISSUE /OBJECT > AND EXAMIONING IT > PART BY PART !! > ---- > > I o w (in other words ) > not to confuse it by mingling deluding deceiving misleading additions on it > ie > for NET !!photons we have to examine > JUST THE FMULA E PHOTON = h f > > (full stop !! > again > a a first stage full stop !! > full stop at that point !! > -- > and re examining it > it is more than good in order to examine the energy of the photon and > not least -- its sub components > ie > THE MASS IN IT !!! > > so now will come the nest honest intelligent important analysis > ir > the **analysis** of > ***** physical dimensions of the formula h f > not less not more > ------ > agreed until this point !! > > TIA > Y.Porat > ================================ and more !! even if as you say that h f is a statistical formula then still it is the energy emitted during one second === that is why I defined the energy that is emitted during less than a second as hf times n while 0> n <<< 1.0000 and still h is the physical entity that carries the main properties of the photon energy so now the main pointy remains to make the Dimension analysis of h f !!! right ?? Y.P =================================
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 15:51 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <nsof0n$kdv$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #599031 |
Dne 01/10/2016 v 11:39 poraty350@gmail.com napsal(a): >> ================================ > and more !! > even if as you say that h f is a statistical formula > then still > it is the energy emitted during one second > === E= h.f is NOT energy emitted during 1 second, unless there photon emission rate 1 per second. -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 11:03 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <8316db9e-0b6f-4433-a075-ae55343c0c20@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599036 |
בתאריך יום שבת, 1 באוקטובר 2016 בשעה 16:51:33 UTC+3, מאת Poutnik Fornntp: > Dne 01/10/2016 v 11:39 poraty350@gmail.com napsal(a): > >> ================================ > > and more !! > > even if as you say that h f is a statistical formula > > then still > > it is the energy emitted during one second > > === > > E= h.f is NOT energy emitted during 1 second, > unless there photon emission rate 1 per second. =================================== ??????? sorry so h f is the energy emitted in one second wile f is a scalar per one second so "" let us see you dimension analysis of the formula E = h f TIA Y.Porat ================= >
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 22:24 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <d6c82c2d-9c3f-4d62-857c-e59552d826a1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599052 |
בתאריך יום שבת, 1 באוקטובר 2016 בשעה 21:03:18 UTC+3, מאת pora...@gmail.com: > בתאריך יום שבת, 1 באוקטובר 2016 בשעה 16:51:33 UTC+3, מאת Poutnik Fornntp: > > Dne 01/10/2016 v 11:39 poraty350@gmail.com napsal(a): > > >> ================================ > > > and more !! > > > even if as you say that h f is a statistical formula > > > then still > > > it is the energy emitted during one second > > > === > > > > E= h.f is NOT energy emitted during 1 second, > > unless there photon emission rate 1 per second. > =================================== > ??????? > sorry > so h f is the energy emitted in one second > wile f is a scalar per one second > so "" > let us see you dimension analysis > of the formula > E = h f > > TIA > Y.Porat > ================= Poutnic and Bodkin are dead scared to make a dimension analysis of the photon energy formula do you know why ??... so I will help them a bit :== E photon is h f h f is = 6.6exp-34 KILOGRAM METER ^2/SECOND ^2 TIMES A SCALR FIURE full stop now comes the question for (NOT LEAST )decent cleaver human beings and the question is : WHERE (THE HELL /THE F )) YOU SEE IN THE ABOVE FAMOUS FORMULA ANY ZERO FIGURE ?? OR RELATIVISTIC ENTITY (multiplier ??)?? -TO MULTIPLY THOSE **KILOGRAM (MASS )** BUY THOSE MENTIONED ABOVE UNSEEN UNFOUND ENTITIES ???!! ==================== TIA Y.Porat ============================= > >
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-02 08:32 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <nsq9l1$308$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #599104 |
Dne 02/10/2016 v 07:24 poraty350@gmail.com napsal(a): >> ================= > Poutnic and Bodkin > are dead scared to make a dimension analysis > of the photon energy formula > do you know why ??... > so I will help them a bit :== > > E photon is h f > h f is = 6.6exp-34 KILOGRAM METER ^2/SECOND ^2 > TIMES A SCALR FIURE > full stop E[J] = h[J.s] . f[s^-1] h = 6.626070040(81)×10−34 J.s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_constant Simple, eh ? -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-02 08:11 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <nsq8eb$pt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #599052 |
Dne 01/10/2016 v 20:03 poraty350@gmail.com napsal(a): > בתאריך יום שבת, 1 באוקטובר 2016 בשעה 16:51:33 UTC+3, מאת Poutnik Fornntp: >> E= h.f is NOT energy emitted during 1 second, >> unless there photon emission rate 1 per second. > so h f is the energy emitted in one second No, h.f is an energy of 1 photon. > wile f is a scalar per one second > so "" > let us see you dimension analysis > of the formula > E = h f > E[J] = h[J.s] . f[s^-1] h = 6.626070040(81)×10−34 J.s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_constant Simple, eh ? -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-02 02:08 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: mod pi, the secondpower of the speed of lightwaves |
| Message-ID | <e0f3afaf-5618-4662-a2f7-e7c26a1f345f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599108 |
בתאריך יום ראשון, 2 באוקטובר 2016 בשעה 09:11:38 UTC+3, מאת Poutnik Fornntp: > Dne 01/10/2016 v 20:03 poraty350@gmail.com napsal(a): > > בתאריך יום שבת, 1 באוקטובר 2016 בשעה 16:51:33 UTC+3, מאת Poutnik Fornntp: > > >> E= h.f is NOT energy emitted during 1 second, > >> unless there photon emission rate 1 per second. > > > so h f is the energy emitted in one second > > No, h.f is an energy of 1 photon. ======================= imbecile parrot !!! f is a whole one second !! go to your light switch turn it on and off during 1/10 second !!! DO YOU GET LIGHT IE PHOTONS EMITION DURING LESS THAN ONE SECOND ?????!!!!!!! some shocking mews for you if you will turn it on even for 1/0.000001 second you still will have created photons !!! GOT IT DUMB PARROT ?? TIA Y.Porat ============================= > > > wile f is a scalar per one second > > so "" > > let us see you dimension analysis > > of the formula > > E = h f > > > E[J] = h[J.s] . f[s^-1] > > h = 6.626070040(81)×10−34 J.s > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_constant > > Simple, eh ? > > -- > Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) > Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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