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Cosmic Chaos

Started byMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
First post2016-09-26 22:47 -0700
Last post2016-10-04 09:59 -0500
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  Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 22:47 -0700
    Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 06:02 -0700
      Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 06:55 -0700
        Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-27 09:07 -0500
        Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 07:16 -0700
          Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 09:49 -0700
            Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 12:16 -0500
              Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 10:55 -0700
            Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 13:25 -0500
              Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 11:53 -0700
                Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 13:19 -0700
                  Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 16:21 -0500
                    Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 14:46 -0700
                      Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 17:04 -0500
                        Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 15:42 -0700
                          Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 16:57 -0700
                            Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 17:58 -0700
                              Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 19:12 -0700
                          Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 09:34 -0500
                            Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 08:24 -0700
                      Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 14:43 -0700
                        Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-04 18:53 -0400
                    Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 14:52 -0700
                      Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 14:47 -0700
                        Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 18:58 -0700
                          Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-03 22:18 -0500
                            Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 05:10 -0700
                          Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 04:37 -0700
                            Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 07:06 -0700
                              Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 07:23 -0700
                                Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 08:31 -0700
                                  Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 10:57 -0500
                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 09:04 -0700
                                      Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 11:24 -0500
                                        Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 12:28 -0700
                                          Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 13:00 -0700
                                            Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 16:56 -0700
                                              Re: Cosmic Chaos moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-05 00:36 +0000
                                          Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 13:14 -0500
                                            Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-05 17:48 -0400
                                              Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 17:06 -0500
                                                Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-06 16:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:29 -0500
                                          Re: Cosmic Chaos "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 14:09 -0700
                                            Re: Cosmic Chaos "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-05 16:01 -0700
                                  Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 09:39 -0700
                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 12:16 -0700
                                      Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 13:14 -0500
                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-04 19:07 -0400
                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 09:57 -0500
                                      Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 08:04 -0700
                                        Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 10:37 -0500
                                          Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 09:26 -0700
                                            Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 11:43 -0500
                                              Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 10:20 -0700
                                                Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 12:49 -0500
                                                  Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 13:03 -0700
                                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 16:27 -0500
                                Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-04 19:04 -0400
                                Re: Cosmic Chaos Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 18:55 -0500
                                Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 17:40 -0700
                                  Re: Cosmic Chaos "Roger Shrubbery" <moderator@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 18:53 -0700
                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 19:23 -0700
                                      Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 20:51 -0700
                                  Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 07:37 -0700
                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 07:50 -0700
                                      Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 13:09 -0500
                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 09:00 -0700
                                      Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 10:33 -0700
                                        Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 11:20 -0700
                                          Re: Cosmic Chaos "Richard Cranium" <moderator@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 18:28 -0700
                                            Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 21:33 -0700
                                            Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 17:14 -0500
                                              Re: Cosmic Chaos Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-08 12:32 -0700
                                  Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-05 17:55 -0400
                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 15:01 -0700
                                      Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 15:58 -0700
                                        Re: Cosmic Chaos "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-05 16:19 -0700
                                          Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:44 -0700
                                            Re: Cosmic Chaos "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-05 16:52 -0700
                                            Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 19:03 -0700
                                              Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 06:54 -0700
                                                Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 07:36 -0700
                                                Re: You're born into this world with X dollars to gamble away. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-06 19:17 -0400
                                                  Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-06 21:58 -0400
                                                    Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-07 07:39 -0400
                                                      Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 07:16 -0500
                                                        Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 14:32 -0500
                                                          Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 06:35 -0700
                                                    Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-07 07:59 -0400
                                                      Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-10-07 08:12 -0400
                                                        Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-07 08:27 -0400
                                                  Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2016-10-07 09:06 -0400
                                                    Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-07 08:22 -0500
                                                    Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 08:32 -0500
                                                    Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 08:44 -0700
                                                    Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-07 11:57 -0400
                                                      Re: Trump or Hillary, it'll be fun to watch. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:06 -0700
                                                Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:37 -0700
                                                  Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 11:57 -0700
                                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 16:44 -0700
                                            Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-06 16:16 -0400
                                              Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 13:47 -0700
                                                Re: Cosmic Chaos "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-06 16:10 -0700
                                                  Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 23:34 -0700
                                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 23:38 -0700
                                                      Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 04:17 -0700
                                                        Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-07 17:20 -0500
                                                          Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 15:52 -0700
                                                    Mr. hVac's trip to South America. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 04:12 -0700
                                                    Re: Mr. hVac's trip to South America. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-10-07 13:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Mr. hVac's trip to South America. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-07 10:20 -0700
                                                        Brazil is mighty, well and truly. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-10-07 13:05 -0700
                                                          Re: Glazier is mighty well and truly deranged. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-07 16:39 -0700
                                                            Guys speak the "Insult Dialect". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-10-07 17:01 -0700
                                                              I think stress inflamed Mr. hVac's lymph nodes. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-10-07 17:19 -0700
                                                                I think stress inflamed Mr. hVac's lymph nodes. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 01:59 -0700
                                                                  If it makes you feel better, so be it. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 04:15 -0700
                                                              Relf is afraid of Swine Glazier... AHAHAHAHAHA.... "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-07 18:23 -0700
                                                      Does Mr. hVac smoke ? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 13:07 -0700
                                                Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-06 19:23 -0400
                                                  Re: Cosmic Chaos Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 18:09 -0700
                                                Re: Cosmic Chaos Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-10-07 13:19 -0700
                                                  Re: Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 13:50 -0700
                                    Re: Cosmic Chaos jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-05 23:57 +0000
                        Re: Cosmic Chaos benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-04 18:54 -0400
      Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-27 09:04 -0500
        Re: Cosmic Chaos john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 07:05 -0700
          Re: Cosmic Chaos Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 09:09 -0500
          Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-27 09:13 -0500
    Re: Cosmic Chaos "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 10:50 -0700
    Re: Cosmic Chaos "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 13:03 -0700
      Re: Cosmic Chaos "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-10-03 13:47 -0700
    Cosmic Chaos HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 14:36 -0700
      Re: Cosmic Chaos Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-04 09:59 -0500

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#598423 — Cosmic Chaos

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-26 22:47 -0700
SubjectCosmic Chaos
Message-ID<991dd2e1-3346-4133-a8fd-910ed8efeaf7@googlegroups.com>
Your Word Salad goes here. 

Type away. Don't be shy, type Type TYPE. You do know all words?!

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis...”

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#598435

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 06:02 -0700
Message-ID<7890544a-7e8f-4281-94d4-cb20d4734210@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598423
Everything is One

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#598439

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 06:55 -0700
Message-ID<354a6847-def9-4a20-a5b1-55105fb0c820@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598435
There is no chaos, Mahipal.
There is Light.
We are just learning to see it.

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#598444

FromSerigo <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-09-27 09:07 -0500
Message-ID<nsduf5$1dqf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#598439
On 9/27/2016 8:55 AM, john wrote:
> There is no chaos, Mahipal.
> There is Light.
> We are just learning to see it.
>

holy ascended masters, batman!
My 13 stranded DNA and vibrating at level 7 is so superior to all 
non-ascended entities.  (at least that is what my pipe tells me)
[(just kidding)]

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#598449

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 07:16 -0700
Message-ID<57ea08f1-bec2-4205-8787-220f45c38498@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598439
On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 9:55:49 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> There is no chaos, Mahipal.
> There is Light.
> We are just learning to see it.

Like you JohnJi have stated: Everything is One!

I kind of hoped to silence all the critics who use 'Word Salad' as
some sort of final nail on the coffin of a discussion. Word Salad! Squared?!

Cubed? What's next? Quadrophenia? Phobia? Who? We don't do free thinking in
these hear empty marble halls of Physics. We just don't. Got problemma?!

Sadly, Idiots are a dime a dozen. For a pair of dimes you get twice as many.  
 
There is chaos Chaos CHAOS. I was going through my unrepeatable Cosmic
collection of college time frame set of books. Hard cover. In print and
heavy. I saw a lot COSMOS and CHAOS in the emboldened titles. What
other words are they going to write? My mind thought. Then I silently
dwelled upon... Cosmic Chaos! Sure, Word Salad. Do the Math, you Idiots.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis...”

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#598467

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 09:49 -0700
Message-ID<723f3dfa-ef63-4dae-bea7-2f75e572797b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598449
Look around.
See any Order?
Apparently, these types think
that Chaos can become,
for example, a spider web, or a
Monarch butterfly.
Pure Chance, they say.
Burn their books- they are insane, evil,
anti-God types.
Bring your books to my beach
and we'll drink Canadians around
a Physics heresies bonfire.
:)

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#598478

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 12:16 -0500
Message-ID<nse9gf$4aq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#598467
On 9/27/2016 11:49 AM, john wrote:
> Look around.
> See any Order?
> Apparently, these types think
> that Chaos can become,
> for example, a spider web, or a
> Monarch butterfly.
> Pure Chance, they say.
> Burn their books- they are insane, evil,
> anti-God types.
> Bring your books to my beach
> and we'll drink Canadians around
> a Physics heresies bonfire.
> :)
>

It's remarkable to me that you believe that no physical law can ever 
drive a pocket of order out of disorder. And that the only thing that 
can EVER create a pocket of order out of disorder is God. And 
furthermore, you say that any belief that something OTHER than God can 
ever create a pocket of order out of disorder is an anti-God belief.

You just love these internally invented koans, don't you?

By the way, Canadian whisky is generally lightweight, cloying horseshit. 
IMO.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#598495

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 10:55 -0700
Message-ID<e0f31c24-4780-43f5-a1f6-c11530ec5dce@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598478
On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 1:16:17 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/27/2016 11:49 AM, john wrote:
> > Look around.
> > See any Order?

Good question JohnJi. Right now, I have to fight off your Odd Bitch.

> > Apparently, these types think
> > that Chaos can become,
> > for example, a spider web, or a
> > Monarch butterfly.
> > Pure Chance, they say.
> > Burn their books- they are insane, evil,
> > anti-God types.

Their pleasant colourful books is the least of their evils.

> > Bring your books to my beach
> > and we'll drink Canadians around
> > a Physics heresies bonfire.
> > :)

As soon as I can escape the USA Income Prison(s)... Cheers! Salute!

> It's remarkable to me that you believe that no physical law can ever 
> drive a pocket of order out of disorder. And that the only thing that 
> can EVER create a pocket of order out of disorder is God. And 
> furthermore, you say that any belief that something OTHER than God can 
> ever create a pocket of order out of disorder is an anti-God belief.

John Lennon Mode: Imagine there's no God... It's easy if you tr(y)... 

> You just love these internally invented koans, don't you?

Koans are a thing. Why do you God-hating-physicists want to kill poetry?

> By the way, Canadian whisky is generally lightweight, cloying horseshit. 
> IMO.

Your Odd cloying IMO isn't worth a God damned moment/spin. Ask anyone.

> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#598501

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 13:25 -0500
Message-ID<nsedhm$c9u$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#598467
On 9/27/2016 11:49 AM, john wrote:
> Burn their books- they are insane, evil,
> anti-God types.
> Bring your books to my beach
> and we'll drink Canadians around
> a Physics heresies bonfire.

John, I'm sure you would not object to the following characterization of 
the John Sefton Method of Thinking.

1. First and foremost, be a rebel. Whatever is accepted is suspect and 
if you have a novel idea then this idea has value exactly because it is 
not the accepted thinking.

2. Decide on what you believe, whatever that is. If you believe that the 
universe is fractal and self-similar at all scales, then stick to that 
belief, no matter what. A world-view is built by CHOICES.

3. Find the data that supports what you've decided to believe, and call 
into question any data that does not support as being a product of 
vested cronyisms.

4. Furthermore, if anyone holds a set of beliefs that is different than 
what you've chosen, then they can be regarded as unthinking and 
irrational. In particular, if the so-called "Scientific Method" produces 
thoughts that are different than what you've chosen, then it isn't worth 
giving credence to.

5. Learn to express your set of beliefs, and the simpler and more brief 
you can make that expression, then the more certain you can be that it 
is true.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#598516

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 11:53 -0700
Message-ID<fc333272-86e5-4401-8a22-eeb51505fed8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598501
On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 2:25:12 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/27/2016 11:49 AM, john wrote:
> > Burn their books- they are insane, evil,
> > anti-God types.
> > Bring your books to my beach
> > and we'll drink Canadians around
> > a Physics heresies bonfire.
> 
> John, I'm sure you would not object to the following characterization of 
> the John Sefton Method of Thinking.

Hey John, let me speak. Odd proudly does not read me m(y) or all posts.
 
> 1. First and foremost, be a rebel. Whatever is accepted is suspect and 
> if you have a novel idea then this idea has value exactly because it is 
> not the accepted thinking.

Yes. Good #1! We don't give a shit about accepted thought.

> 2. Decide on what you believe, whatever that is. If you believe that the 
> universe is fractal and self-similar at all scales, then stick to that 
> belief, no matter what. A world-view is built by CHOICES.

The Big Bang Theory is a choice. Prove it otherwise to be.

> 3. Find the data that supports what you've decided to believe, and call 
> into question any data that does not support as being a product of 
> vested cronyisms.

You Odd, so admit, that cronyisms do exist. How noble of you.

> 4. Furthermore, if anyone holds a set of beliefs that is different than 
> what you've chosen, then they can be regarded as unthinking and 
> irrational. In particular, if the so-called "Scientific Method" produces 
> thoughts that are different than what you've chosen, then it isn't worth 
> giving credence to.

Actually very wrong. And you are projecting Odd. Stop projecting.

> 5. Learn to express your set of beliefs, and the simpler and more brief 
> you can make that expression, then the more certain you can be that it 
> is true.

No. Anyone can paint a complicated Word Salad portrait of Life in the Universe.

> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

I know I'm in your killfile(s) and I'm fighting an invisible set of gnomes.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#598529

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 13:19 -0700
Message-ID<2127120d-3d3a-4724-92d6-0e40fd793624@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598516
Odd
Why have you put Mahipal in your kill file?
Odd
I drink Glenfiddich or better. Made in Canada
is not the deciding factor- single malt
and age are.
Odd
A Fractal Universe is better than
a Universe that exploded out of Nothing
(hmm- maybe THAT'S where your 'nothing'
shit comes from).

Odd
What's bigger than everything? What the
Universe will be tomorrow. What's smaller
than everything? What the Universe was
yesterday.
That's your theory- Big Bang.

WHERE DOES ALL THAT
ENERGY COME FROM?

Pretty frickin retarded, Odd

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#598537

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 16:21 -0500
Message-ID<nsensl$tjo$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#598529
On 9/27/2016 3:19 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> Why have you put Mahipal in your kill file?

I have lots of people in my killfile for lots of different reasons.
Mahipal generates more noise than signal. The content isn't worth the 
effort to parse it.

> Odd
> I drink Glenfiddich or better. Made in Canada
> is not the deciding factor- single malt
> and age are.

All, well, in that case Canadian whisky is out, because it's all blended 
whisky by law.

> Odd
> A Fractal Universe is better than
> a Universe that exploded out of Nothing
> (hmm- maybe THAT'S where your 'nothing'
> shit comes from).

Misperception on your part. Big Bang does not say that Universe exploded 
out of Nothing, except in gee-whiz supermarket tabloid versions.

>
> Odd
> What's bigger than everything? What the
> Universe will be tomorrow. What's smaller
> than everything? What the Universe was
> yesterday.
> That's your theory- Big Bang.

It's amazing how little you know about what the Big Bang says.
First of all, we're not talking about the expansion of a finite universe 
with a boundary. Do you get that something that has no boundary can 
still be explanding?

>
> WHERE DOES ALL THAT
> ENERGY COME FROM?

Back to Newton's first law, where NO ENERGY is needed for something to 
travel forever, John. Which you seem to just not believe can be true.

As for the Big Bang, the energy comes from the temperature of the 
universe, which has been cooling ever since Big Bang. This is just like 
how a hot gas expands ON ITS OWN, cooling as it does so, the energy of 
the expansion coming from the previous higher temperature. You didn't 
know this?

>
> Pretty frickin retarded, Odd
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#598541

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 14:46 -0700
Message-ID<57cc2695-0b52-48a0-8c9e-1ede8250eff7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598537
Odd said
"
Do you get that something that has no boundary can 
still be explanding? 
"

No. I don't "get" that.
You believe in nonsense.

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#598544

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 17:04 -0500
Message-ID<nseqdm$11q1$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#598541
On 9/27/2016 4:46 PM, john wrote:
> Odd said
> "
> Do you get that something that has no boundary can
> still be explanding?
> "
>
> No. I don't "get" that.

OK, so that's a problem. Have you tried reading anything about it?

> You believe in nonsense.

So, let me see if I heard you right. Something you don't get is 
automatically nonsense?

Ego much?


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#598550

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 15:42 -0700
Message-ID<c7cbc343-bd15-46da-9c34-3a191c011b81@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598544
Odd
Many of the things you have been
indoctrinated into believing-
things with no boundaries,
things with no volume,
things that move without losing energy,
charges that accelerate without losing energy,
things that are virtual,
etc
etc
etc
Are just plain stupid.
That you believe these things
does not reflect well on you,

I wonder where Absolutely Vertical, Big Dog
and The Wiz all went?
Maybe Mahipal can go back
and see if their computer records
reveal something?

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#598573

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 16:57 -0700
Message-ID<4bec2d0d-f966-4624-9166-6703ad64fcde@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598550
On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 6:42:53 PM UTC-4, john wrote:
> Odd
> Many of the things you have been
> indoctrinated into believing-
> things with no boundaries,
> things with no volume,
> things that move without losing energy,
> charges that accelerate without losing energy,
> things that are virtual,
> etc
> etc
> etc
> Are just plain stupid.
> That you believe these things
> does not reflect well on you,

Just Plain Stupid?! I graduated from them their colleges.

> I wonder where Absolutely Vertical, Big Dog
> and The Wiz all went?
> Maybe Mahipal can go back
> and see if their computer records
> reveal something?

I recall Big Dog, not the other two, so much. This is hansonJi turf.

Odd is empty headed no matter which name he hides behind. No offense.

Hey JohnJi, remember Stir Crazy 1980 with Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder?
Two guys who got screwed due to mistaken identity? Such a funny movie.

PryorJi: When I get out, I'll be a 125 years old?!

The news media informs me that Golfer Arnold Palmer has died at age 87.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#598589

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 17:58 -0700
Message-ID<f13617b7-a66c-465a-a651-79d4ee1fe035@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598573
Mahipal said
"
The news media informs me that Golfer Arnold Palmer has died at age 87. "
There is a guy that had a good life.

My mom just hit 88- I try to
go by several mornings a week
and bring her fruit, bread, Raisin Bran.
We play crib.

I joined a pool league at the lake.
They're like Odd- they don't realize
that balls' trajectories totally depend
on spin. Of course, they have no
idea which side of Center they're
striking the ball.
They discuss their knee replacements
while tying into their Sunday bacon
and eggs with big smiles. I don't say
a word- they're like Odd: they know
what's good.

My team of three has the top score.
The fellow and his wife that I partner
with are over the moon

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#598603

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-27 19:12 -0700
Message-ID<b5c834c6-b3ee-4e03-8883-451b3a125c42@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598589
On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4, john wrote:
> Mahipal said
> "
> The news media informs me that Golfer Arnold Palmer has died at age 87. "
> There is a guy that had a good life.

If you study Arnold's golf strokes, then you slap your head silly pondering: WTF?! 

> My mom just hit 88- I try to
> go by several mornings a week
> and bring her fruit, bread, Raisin Bran.
> We play crib.

I wish your MomJi well, Sir JohnJi.

Me m(y) MomJi(80) just can't accept my corporate (2016) American failure.
I try, for her, draw all sorts of Zen Diagrams... Venn, is it? O well...

> I joined a pool league at the lake.
> They're like Odd- they don't realize
> that balls' trajectories totally depend
> on spin. Of course, they have no
> idea which side of Center they're
> striking the ball.
> They discuss their knee replacements
> while tying into their Sunday bacon
> and eggs with big smiles. I don't say
> a word- they're like Odd: they know
> what's good.

It's Ok, most westerners are never turning vegan. Not going to happen JohnJi!

> My team of three has the top score.
> The fellow and his wife that I partner
> with are over the moon

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: Poet Pla(y)ing Tennis...”

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#598643

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-28 09:34 -0500
Message-ID<nsgke8$1lei$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#598550
On 9/27/2016 5:42 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> Many of the things you have been
> indoctrinated into believing-
> things with no boundaries,
> things with no volume,
> things that move without losing energy,
> charges that accelerate without losing energy,
> things that are virtual,
> etc
> etc
> etc
> Are just plain stupid.

John, I'll remind you that YOU believe they are stupid, because they are 
counter to particular beliefs that YOU and YOU ALONE hold. You are 
saying that anyone that doesn't believe what YOU believe to be true, is 
stupid. That's an exceedingly arrogant position for you to hold, don't 
you think? Do you not want to back off from this position?

Notice for example that when you say "things that move without losing 
energy...[is] just plain stupid", you are saying that Galileo and Newton 
are both "just plain stupid". Are you REALLY going to go so far as to 
maintain that position, John? Are you going to entertain even the 
POSSIBILITY that some of your beliefs are just plain wrong? Or is that 
just not an acceptable possibility for you?

> That you believe these things
> does not reflect well on you,
>
> I wonder where Absolutely Vertical, Big Dog
> and The Wiz all went?
> Maybe Mahipal can go back
> and see if their computer records
> reveal something?
>

I think it's fascinating that you are recruiting someone else to try to 
validate something YOU believe to be true, because YOU can't validate it 
yourself.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#598649

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-28 08:24 -0700
Message-ID<1d116f8a-00f6-44be-bd56-1f360a007283@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598643
On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 10:34:53 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/27/2016 5:42 PM, john wrote:
> > Odd
> > Many of the things you have been
> > indoctrinated into believing-
> > things with no boundaries,
> > things with no volume,
> > things that move without losing energy,
> > charges that accelerate without losing energy,
> > things that are virtual,
> > etc
> > etc
> > etc
> > Are just plain stupid.
> 
> John, I'll remind you that YOU believe they are stupid, because they are 
> counter to particular beliefs that YOU and YOU ALONE hold. You are 
> saying that anyone that doesn't believe what YOU believe to be true, is 
> stupid. That's an exceedingly arrogant position for you to hold, don't 
> you think? Do you not want to back off from this position?
> 
> Notice for example that when you say "things that move without losing 
> energy...[is] just plain stupid", you are saying that Galileo and Newton 
> are both "just plain stupid". Are you REALLY going to go so far as to 
> maintain that position, John? Are you going to entertain even the 
> POSSIBILITY that some of your beliefs are just plain wrong? Or is that 
> just not an acceptable possibility for you?
> 
> > That you believe these things
> > does not reflect well on you,
> >
> > I wonder where Absolutely Vertical, Big Dog
> > and The Wiz all went?
> > Maybe Mahipal can go back
> > and see if their computer records
> > reveal something?
> >
> 
> I think it's fascinating that you are recruiting someone else to try to 
> validate something YOU believe to be true, because YOU can't validate it 
> yourself.

Teamwork.

> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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