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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-09-25 04:19 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-09-27 14:07 -0700 |
| Articles | 5 on this page of 65 — 11 participants |
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"Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 04:19 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-25 16:44 +0000
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 10:05 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-26 01:26 +0000
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 05:10 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 05:16 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-26 16:57 +0000
Re: "Opposite spin" "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-26 10:11 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 12:20 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-26 12:37 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 13:34 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-26 14:58 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 06:11 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-27 04:42 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-27 04:39 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-09-25 13:15 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 13:38 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-09-25 14:50 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 17:37 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 08:13 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 06:52 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 09:05 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-09-26 14:43 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 16:44 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 15:35 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-25 16:09 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 15:06 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 17:28 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-27 01:07 +0000
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 19:46 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-27 03:13 +0000
Re: "Opposite spin" "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 18:18 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 19:49 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 09:03 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 07:08 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 09:21 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 07:41 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 10:12 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 11:18 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 09:29 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 12:10 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 10:18 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 12:24 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 13:07 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 16:06 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-28 00:08 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-28 00:01 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-29 01:51 +0000
Re: "Opposite spin" HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 06:23 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 07:41 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 17:51 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 18:05 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-28 03:42 +0000
Re: "Opposite spin" "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 02:24 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 09:36 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 10:54 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 14:37 -0500
Re: "Opposite spin" "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 11:54 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-29 11:59 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 18:12 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 19:10 -0700
Re: "Opposite spin" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-28 03:49 +0000
Re: "Opposite spin" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-27 01:02 +0000
Re: "Opposite spin" Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-27 15:24 +1000
Re: "Opposite spin" noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 14:07 -0700
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-27 19:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87093e81-fd18-45ff-b190-9bc6c4334353@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598592 |
Mark Sorry about that. I actually think you're one of the smartest ones around here. But, I'm OCD about spinny stuff, like Michael says, who I also think is a happening guy. And Odd, also. Very smart. Knows LOTS. But what I'm saying is, when you COMBINE the spins, locking them together at the start, they will want to STAY locked together precisely because of what Michael said- that it takes huge energy to precess against and CHANGE the rotation. Think about it like a math problem. Because EACH POINT is coming back to the same place after every rotation, each of those points perceives that it has been a 'normal' rotation.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-09-28 03:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nsfeke$9uu$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #598592 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Our "Science" can't position an electron or a >positron or anything else ANYWHERE. >Gene therapy doesn't even >ATTEMPT to get their genes into >the nucleus- they are dumped into the >cytoplasm through a huge hole that may >or may not kill the cell. I think it is awful cool that we now have the ability to stick genes into the cytoplasm and introduce new characteristics to living things. Even if the result is sometimes as silly as glow-in-the-dark kittens. And even if the technology is not yet good enough to get the genes into the nucleus where they belong. <snip babble>
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-09-27 01:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nscgf9$ugr$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #598403 |
"nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> writes: >On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 4:19:58 AM UTC-7, john wrote: >> People talk about "opposite spin". >> Anyway, make the merry go round go >> backwards while keeping >> the Ferris wheel the same- >> THEN you have a true opposite spin. >> (Which is antimatter.) > So, when a free hydrogen atom's single electron flips its spin from > parallel to that of the proton to antiparallel, you think it becomes a > positron? > Seriously? > And when a diatomic hydrogen molecule goes from the ortho state (both > proton spins in the same direction) to the para state (proton spins > opposed), you think one of the protons suddenly becomes an antiproton? > Seriously? I tried to help that boy think straight, but it just isn't working...
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2016-09-27 15:24 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <e4ue4eF1r98U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #598250 |
On 25/09/2016 9:19 PM, john wrote: > People talk about "opposite spin". > Look at a Ferris wheel from one side, > it is rotating one way. > Look at it from the other side, > it is rotating the other way. > Just perspective. > If you represent the spin as a vector, then you'll discover that the vector is the same regardless of which side of the wheel you're looking at. On one side, the vector points towards you. Move round to the other side, and now it points away from you. Put a second wheel beside the first, and spin it in the opposite direction. It's vector is in the opposite direction to the first, and no amount of moving around the wheels will make the vectors point in the same direction. So it's not just a matter of perspective. Sylvia.
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-27 14:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <56b37569-2eff-4584-bd1e-fb0cc7680833@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598422 |
a 18o-degree rotation of the axis, of course, not in hte plane perpend. to the axis, though > Put a second wheel beside the first, and spin it in the opposite > direction. It's vector is in the opposite direction to the first, and no > amount of moving around the wheels will make the vectors point in the > same direction. > > So it's not just a matter of perspective. > > Sylvia.
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