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Vortices in the subfractal

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2016-09-01 17:06 -0700
Last post2016-09-11 14:41 -0700
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  Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 17:06 -0700
    Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-02 01:56 +0000
      Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:26 -0700
        Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:48 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 04:44 -0700
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-02 13:46 +0000
              Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 07:47 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-02 07:02 -0700
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 08:08 -0700
              Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-02 11:17 -0700
              Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 07:53 -0700
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 07:48 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 07:40 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 10:06 -0500
        Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-02 13:40 +0000
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 08:18 -0700
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-02 17:04 +0000
              Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 15:15 -0700
                Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-03 04:13 +0000
                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 03:30 -0700
                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 08:03 -0700
                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-04 03:14 +0000
                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 20:39 -0700
                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 10:03 -0700
                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-05 13:26 -0700
                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 15:34 -0700
                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 10:30 -0500
                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 07:56 -0700
                Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 10:28 -0500
              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 10:23 -0500
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 12:23 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 07:45 -0700
        Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 07:36 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-05 12:40 -0700
      Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 07:34 -0700
      Re: Vortices in the subfractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 08:49 -0700
        Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 09:31 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 09:59 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 11:07 -0700
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 11:34 -0700
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 11:39 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 11:07 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-04 19:30 +0000
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 12:34 -0700
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 16:32 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-05 13:23 -0700
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 15:47 -0700
              Re: Vortices in the subfractal "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-05 16:26 -0700
              Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-06 09:32 -0700
                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 11:24 -0700
                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-07 13:23 +0000
                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 06:33 -0700
                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 07:41 -0700
                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:29 -0500
                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 08:59 -0700
                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 11:02 -0500
                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 11:03 -0500
                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 09:30 -0700
                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 09:33 -0700
                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-07 10:44 -0700
                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 15:21 -0700
                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:15 -0500
                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 07:39 -0700
                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 08:07 -0700
                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 10:20 -0500
                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-08 17:23 +0000
                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-08 11:08 -0700
                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-08 15:11 +0000
                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 10:16 -0500
                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 08:22 -0700
                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 08:38 -0700
                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:57 -0500
                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:55 -0500
                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-08 11:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 14:20 -0700
                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 16:30 -0500
                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 14:57 -0700
                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 07:32 -0500
                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-09 17:33 -0400
                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:57 -0500
                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-09 20:00 -0400
                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 18:18 -0500
                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-12 22:05 -0400
                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 21:15 -0500
                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-13 02:52 +0000
                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:24 -0400
                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-13 23:54 +0000
                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 08:15 -0500
                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-12 23:19 -0400
                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:07 -0500
                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:31 -0400
                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-13 23:59 +0000
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 21:48 -0400
                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-14 05:14 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 17:50 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 00:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 21:54 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 04:16 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:00 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:41 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 20:57 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 01:48 +0000
                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-14 07:00 -0700
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Sergoi <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-14 12:10 -0500
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 14:35 -0700
                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 15:47 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 08:30 -0500
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 00:56 -0400
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 08:46 -0700
                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-19 06:04 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 06:21 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 06:32 -0700
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                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 07:39 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-19 15:40 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:32 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 11:33 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 13:41 -0500
                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 09:26 -0500
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 00:09 -0400
                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 18:19 -0500
                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-12 22:07 -0400
                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 21:16 -0500
                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-12 23:25 -0400
                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:09 -0500
                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:33 -0400
                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 09:29 -0500
                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-13 09:33 -0700
                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 20:18 -0400
                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-14 07:24 -0700
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 00:46 -0400
                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-09 20:12 -0700
                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 21:04 -0700
                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-12 21:48 -0400
                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 21:05 -0500
                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-13 09:02 -0700
                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-08 22:11 +0000
                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 15:41 -0700
                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-08 19:55 -0400
                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 07:35 -0500
                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 05:46 -0700
                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-09 13:36 +0000
                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 08:46 -0500
                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 06:54 -0700
                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 09:33 -0500
                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-09 17:45 -0400
                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 17:05 -0500
                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 15:24 -0700
                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-09 22:51 +0000
                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:09 -0700
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 06:15 -0500
                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 07:08 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 18:22 -0500
                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-15 23:26 -0700
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-10 14:04 +0000
                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 06:14 -0500
                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-09 20:15 -0400
                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 18:05 -0500
                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 16:12 -0700
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 18:26 -0500
                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 16:46 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:06 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 03:04 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-12 10:01 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:14 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-12 18:03 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 13:24 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-12 11:37 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 11:56 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 11:59 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 15:34 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-12 15:15 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 18:17 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:30 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 18:43 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 21:02 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-13 02:13 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-13 02:09 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-12 23:38 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-13 04:40 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 07:19 -0700
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                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-13 09:24 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 15:05 -0500
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                                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-14 05:15 +0000
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                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:45 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 14:05 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 13:08 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 15:36 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 14:16 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:56 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-14 06:47 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 20:04 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-14 07:06 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 00:22 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-15 12:55 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 06:18 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 08:45 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-15 14:31 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 08:23 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 10:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 08:58 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 09:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                    tautochrononology noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 10:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 12:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 10:57 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 11:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 14:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 12:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 16:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 14:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 12:32 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 02:25 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-16 07:00 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 11:58 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:43 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:46 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 10:47 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-13 09:19 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-12 22:11 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 21:19 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-12 23:29 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:12 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:38 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 09:54 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 10:11 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:50 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-16 06:30 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-13 09:10 -0700
                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-15 23:12 -0700
                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 07:12 -0500
                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 05:51 -0700
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 08:32 -0500
                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 06:36 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 06:44 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 08:53 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal "Tim BandTech.com" <timgolden@bandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-22 20:15 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 15:58 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 08:51 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 06:56 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 07:05 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 09:49 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:25 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 08:10 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 11:51 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 12:12 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-19 00:33 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 18:20 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-19 13:59 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-19 06:19 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 07:19 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 06:30 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 08:33 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 13:00 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 06:37 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-20 16:08 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 09:35 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-20 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 13:42 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 07:42 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 08:27 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-22 15:28 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:59 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-22 19:14 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 12:57 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-23 07:42 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 09:53 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 08:13 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 17:04 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 18:09 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 19:10 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-24 15:12 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 08:20 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 08:28 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal "Tim BandTech.com" <timgolden@bandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-24 08:57 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 13:25 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-24 19:08 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 13:52 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-24 23:47 +0000
                                                                                                                              sh*t *p or p*t *p noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 10:26 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 02:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 06:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 10:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 14:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 08:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 14:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-29 01:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-29 03:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 11:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-29 12:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 14:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 15:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 17:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 13:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 08:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-28 23:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-29 11:50 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 13:24 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-24 19:05 +0000
                                                                                                                    spins in zpinz noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 16:07 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 13:18 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 08:07 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 15:54 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 13:41 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 08:54 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 09:44 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:23 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 16:01 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 09:54 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:26 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:20 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 08:10 -0500
                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:18 -0400
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 08:42 -0500
                                                                                Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:19 -0400
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 15:49 +0000
                                                                            Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:14 -0400
                                                                              Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 08:10 -0500
                                                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 11:22 -0500
                                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-09 10:38 -0700
                                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 07:34 -0500
                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-09 06:35 -0700
                                                    the little sEEds in that guy noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 13:37 -0700
                                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 13:07 -0700
                                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-16 13:20 -0700
                                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-08 09:03 -0700
                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 12:51 -0500
                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-07 18:57 +0000
                                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 12:29 -0500
                                    Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:40 -0700
                                      Re: Vortices in the subfractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 13:09 -0500
                        Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-07 10:30 -0700
                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-09-07 10:26 -0700
        Re: Vortices in the subfractal Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 13:42 -0500
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 16:44 -0700
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 20:11 -0700
              Re: Vortices in the subfractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 07:33 -0700
              Re: Vortices in the subfractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 07:33 -0700
                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 08:15 -0700
                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 09:18 -0700
                Re: Vortices in the subfractal benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-05 18:11 -0400
                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:41 -0700
    Re: Vortices in the subfractal Earle Jones27 <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2016-09-09 22:49 -0700
      Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-10 14:08 +0000
        Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 07:43 -0700
          Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-10 21:09 +0000
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 15:48 -0700
            Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 15:56 -0700
              Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-10 23:56 +0000
                Re: Vortices in the subfractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 06:59 -0700
                  Re: Vortices in the subfractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-12 00:31 +0000
        Re: Vortices in the subfractal noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 14:41 -0700

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#598150

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-24 13:24 -0500
Message-ID<ns6gc7$1qqp$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#598137
On 9/24/2016 10:20 AM, john wrote:
> Michael said
> "Intrinic spin is a quantum-mechanical effect which has no macroscopic
> equivalent"
>
> Do you really not understand how
> stupid this is?
> Really?
>

No. Why do you think this is stupid? Do you think that everything should 
be explainable in the same way that things on our scale is explained? If 
so, WHY do you think that?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#598156

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-09-24 19:05 +0000
Message-ID<ns6ios$ni$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#598137
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael said
>"Intrinic spin is a quantum-mechanical effect which has no macroscopic 
>equivalent"

>Do you really not understand how
>stupid this is?
>Really?

So John, give us just one scientific reason why that is "stupid", or at
least wrong.  Just one.  And a good reason, not "it's stupid because I
said so", or "if it's not macroscopic that means I can't draw it" or "it
doesn't involve precessing spinny things".

Just one good, scientific reason.

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#598186 — spins in zpinz

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-24 16:07 -0700
Subjectspins in zpinz
Message-ID<936e4196-4667-4fb8-a12f-3aa765050cc9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598134
if spinning is not angularly momental, then
I don't know, what isn't angularly momental

> Intrinic spin is a quantum-mechanical effect which has no macroscopic
> equivalent.  It does have units of angular momentum, however, which is
> how it got to be called "spin".
> 
> A bound electron can be in only one of two states of spin.  This is
> described as either +1/2 or -1/2, or, whimsically, "up" or "down".
> There are no other possible states for an electron.
> 
> Antimatter has many properties that are the opposite of the corresponding
> matter particle.  Opposite charge, opposite lepton and baryon numbers and
> so forth.  You cannot change a matter particle into its antimatter
> equivalent without violating conservation of these.  For example, an
> antimatter electron (a positron) has a +1 charge, the opposite of an
> electron's -1 charge.  You cannot convert an electron into a positron
> without violating conservation of charge.  Positrons in bound states
> (say, an anti-atom) can have "up" or "down" spins just like an electron.
> There are no other possible states.

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#598148

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-24 13:18 -0500
Message-ID<ns6g1i$1qqp$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#598102
On 9/23/2016 8:09 PM, john wrote:
> Odd said
> "itions right for its
>> opposite to manifest in its place.
>
> It's not "its opposite". Flipped spin is not making the antiparticle.
> "
>
> It is the antiparticle installed in the
> down slot, which makes it travel
> backwards.
>

No sir. It is not.
If in fact you DO put an antielectron (positron) in an atom along with 
an electron, then you get 1.022 MeV photons out pretty promptly. Every 
single fucking time.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#599857

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-07 08:07 -0700
Message-ID<c2ed3e58-7db5-4b56-844d-a59dcef0fe09@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598083
On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 3:04:03 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/21/2016 10:27 AM, john wrote:
> > Odd
> > Dumb or not, electrons are
> > no more "fundamental " or
> > "point like" than anything else.
> 
> Where's the observational evidence of that?
> Notice that this claim of yours is saying that the observational traits 
> of electrons are false and are not showing the true nature of electrons.

You are so dumb, oddball.  Actually John is saying his theory describes what is observed.  And your inability to dispute that claim suggests he might be right.  

And you are so desperate you are putting words in his mouth.  

You church ladies don't understand science.  You just believe.

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#597868

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-21 15:54 -0700
Message-ID<f0c59227-6688-4da4-bcaa-7c479066598c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#597817
the redshift is just t00 dim,
to tell whether or not Universe is finite

> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#597938

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-22 13:41 -0500
Message-ID<ns18l3$4sl$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#597687
On 9/20/2016 8:37 AM, john wrote:
> Odd the usual
> "
> exhibit internal structure. Some things have NOT been found to exhibit
> internal structure. And the existence of both categories of things are
> hypothesized to exist and then the predicted behaviors of both
> categories are checked against observations.
>
> You on the other hand, want to insist DESPITE observation that all
> things have internal structure whether seen or unseen. In other words,
> for those cases where observation says no internal structure, you are
> supposing HIDDEN internal structure. That is, you are making a
> hypothesis that EVERYTHING has internal structure, even things that
> don't exhibit any.
>
> So in terms of what makes a greater conceptual leap, you are the one "
>
> hahaha 'greater conceptual leap'
> hahaha
> You are so funny!
>

I don't know why you think this is funny, John. As I said, observations 
indicate two classes of objects, not one. You are declaring only one 
class of objects.

Why you would insist that there is only one class of objects regardless 
of observations, I have no idea.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#597532

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-19 08:54 -0500
Message-ID<nroqlu$u7i$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#597420
On 9/18/2016 1:51 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> Perhaps you have an experiment
> showing what causes "field" lines?
>

Field lines aren't real. They are a visualization tool. The field exists 
everywhere, not in lines.

Iron filings give the appearance of falling into lines because they not 
only twist to orient with the direction of the field, but they also tend 
to draw toward each other when magnetized.

The FIELD is real. Field lines aren't real.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#597157

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-16 09:44 -0500
Message-ID<nrh0gq$17u7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#597151
On 9/16/2016 8:56 AM, john wrote:
> Answer the boomerang post, Odd.
> There is NO PULL.
> There is PUSH,
> which doesn't always go in straight
> lines.

John, the boomerang doesn't move because of push. It moves because 
that's the direction of lower energy. There is no contact of anything 
material with the boomerang.

>
> Or show me the "ropes",
> or retarded "gravitons",
> or whatever. Your idea of
> gravity- Suck Gravity- is retarded.
> Retarded claims need evidence.

Exactly, John. Your claims of a material cogs and wheels world 
interacting by contact is retarded. Show the evidence.

> Where is it?
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#597229

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-16 17:23 -0400
Message-ID<57dc62d9$0$31337$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#597157
On 9/16/2016 10:44 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/16/2016 8:56 AM, john wrote:
>> Answer the boomerang post, Odd.
>> There is NO PULL.
>> There is PUSH,
>> which doesn't always go in straight
>> lines.
>
> John, the boomerang doesn't move because of push. It moves because
> that's the direction of lower energy. There is no contact of anything
> material with the boomerang.

John, Odd doesn't believe in air as a material substance. To him wind is 
just something he passes. And he thinks it's pulled out of his butt 
rather than pushed out!

>> Or show me the "ropes",
>> or retarded "gravitons",
>> or whatever. Your idea of
>> gravity- Suck Gravity- is retarded.
>> Retarded claims need evidence.
>
> Exactly, John. Your claims of a material cogs and wheels world
> interacting by contact is retarded. Show the evidence.

Still waiting for you to show us your strings and ropes.
We'll be right here.

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#597164

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-09-16 16:01 +0000
Message-ID<nrh506$7n6$4@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#597151
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>Retarded claims need evidence.
>Where is it?

Yeah, John.  You are *constantly* making retarded claims here, without any
evidence.  Where is your evidence for your retarded claims, John?

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#597167

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-16 09:54 -0700
Message-ID<9d430718-057d-45cd-b4cd-314cca9ba336@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#597164
john
Odd 
The galactic rotation curve consists 
of a straight part and a 
curved part. 
Can you explain what that might mean in 
terms of star movement? 
----------------

Hi John
Is the correct answer D moosecock?

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#597231

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-16 17:26 -0400
Message-ID<57dc639b$0$31337$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#597167
On 9/16/2016 12:54 PM, HVAC wrote:
> john
> Odd
> The galactic rotation curve consists
> of a straight part and a
> curved part.
> Can you explain what that might mean in
> terms of star movement?
> ----------------
>
> Hi John
> Is the correct answer D moosecock?
>
Folks, just one little example of what a "science" education at a 
well-known Ivy League school does to the normal human brain.

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#597227

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-16 17:20 -0400
Message-ID<57dc621b$0$31337$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#597149
On 9/16/2016 9:51 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/16/2016 8:36 AM, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> Wake up, Odd.
>> Wake up, little Odd.
>>
>> Where are your little ropes?
>> Or EVIDENCE of them?
>>
>
> Read my response to you, John.
>
> Pull happens without ropes. Push happens without material contact.
> Push and pull come from something else.
>
John, Odd means that pull happens with "nothing at all" in his MIND. 
Anything is possible when you are just making it all up.

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#597405

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-18 08:10 -0500
Message-ID<nrm3nr$l31$6@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#597227
On 9/16/2016 4:20 PM, benj wrote:
> On 9/16/2016 9:51 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 9/16/2016 8:36 AM, john wrote:
>>> Odd
>>> Wake up, Odd.
>>> Wake up, little Odd.
>>>
>>> Where are your little ropes?
>>> Or EVIDENCE of them?
>>>
>>
>> Read my response to you, John.
>>
>> Pull happens without ropes. Push happens without material contact.
>> Push and pull come from something else.
>>
> John, Odd means that pull happens with "nothing at all" in his MIND.
> Anything is possible when you are just making it all up.

Nope. Not my mind. Physicists.

You disagree with physicists. You are happy thinking that you are the 
only one right and everyone else is wrong, something your mother did for 
you to see your mind free. Good luck with that.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#597225

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-16 17:18 -0400
Message-ID<57dc61ab$0$31337$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#597144
On 9/16/2016 9:32 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/16/2016 7:51 AM, john wrote:
>> I say.
>> Or else show me your tiny ropes.
>> Idiot Boinker
>>
>
> There, you see? You apparently believe that the only way a force can be
> exerted is through some kind of material contact. Like a material object
> leaning on another material object, bumping against another material
> object, colliding with another material object. Likewise, you then
> believe that the only way that there can be a pull is if there is a
> material string or material glue between material objects to bind them
> together.
>
> In your world, it is all material cogs and wheels, moving like gears or
> bumping around like balls and walls.
>
> And yet... and yet... some centuries ago, people discovered that there
> were forces that happened across a distance with no material contact
> whatsoever. Electrically charged objects could push or pull against each
> other with absolutely NOTHING between them and no evidence of anything
> material being passed between them. Magnets could push or pull against
> each other in the same way. And so CENTURIES AGO, people began to get
> used to the idea that forces may not always come as a result of a
> material contact, and that there were completely different explanations
> for why things moved other than material contact.
>
> For instance, two centuries ago, people realized that objects will move
> to locations of lower energy BY THEMSELVES, without there being any
> material push from any other object whatsoever. Thus for another object
> to influence another object without touching it or exchanging anything
> with it, all that it had to do is to arrange the potential energy in the
> vicinity of that other object such that it would move to a location of
> lower energy. And this is how pulls happen as well as pushes, with no
> touching, no contact, no strings, nothing passed.
>
> In fact, it was realized in this past century that even material contact
> is an illusion, and no matter ever really comes in contact with matter.
> ALL those interactions are really arranging potential energy in the
> vicinity of an object just by being near it, but not in actual touching
> contact. No electron in an atom actually touches an electron in a
> neighboring atom, ever. But the atoms can sense a disturbance in the
> potential energy in the area and will slide away when another material
> object comes close. This is what keeps a coffee cup from penetrating a
> table -- not from actually touching it, but floating above it on a
> cushion of potential energy.
>
> The material cogs and wheels understanding of the world is dead, John,
> has been for a long, long, long time, long before you were born.
>
> And just because your SENSES tell you that the door moves because the
> material of your hand pushes on it, just because COMMON SENSE tells you
> that you sense the wind because the air molecules actually strike the
> molecules of your skin -- does not mean that is actually true. Your
> SENSES and your COMMON SENSE have lied to you about how the world really
> works. They have told you a fibber's tale of material contact with
> material things being the story of how the world works, when in fact
> nothing actually ever touches anything else at all, and never has. So
> your questions about how pull is possible without a material tiny rope
> in between is motivated by a lie.

So you are back to your old saw of fields are just "nothing at all". You 
sure are a slow learner. Nothing at all cannot have any properties 
especially causing forces on objects. Physicists like to use the term 
"Behavior fields" (look it up in your books!) which means that there is 
behavior with absolutely NOTHING to do the behaving. It is the HEIGHT of 
insane thinking and right in line with what you believe. You are such a 
man of faith!



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#597146

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-16 08:42 -0500
Message-ID<nrgsss$11nf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#597141
On 9/16/2016 7:51 AM, john wrote:
> I say.
> Or else show me your tiny ropes.
> Idiot Boinker
>

And I'll just point out that when you say "I say," this is going to have 
absolutely zero interest for me. Because all it says is that this 
conclusion is the result of trying to figure things out for yourself 
without learning anything about the subject.

I do not believe that anyone should expect to figure things out for 
themselves without studying the previous work of others. It is not only 
futile, but arrogantly futile.

You may prize "thinking for yourself" as opposed to "being a parrot". 
But this is why we have schools, John, and this is why there is 
training. Knowledge is cumulative in mankind. It is not something that 
is recreated by every person from scratch. Reading a book does not make 
you a parrot, nor does it keep you from thinking for yourself. Reading 
enables you to think for yourself in a way that is not futile flailing.

All you have ever done is futile flailing because you are terrified of 
reading. Even after thinking for yourself, you cannot justify WHY you 
believe the things you do. This should tell you that your methods of 
thinking are not well-enough structured to believe the outcomes.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#597226

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-16 17:19 -0400
Message-ID<57dc61d7$0$31337$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#597146
On 9/16/2016 9:42 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/16/2016 7:51 AM, john wrote:
>> I say.
>> Or else show me your tiny ropes.
>> Idiot Boinker
>>
>
> And I'll just point out that when you say "I say," this is going to have
> absolutely zero interest for me. Because all it says is that this
> conclusion is the result of trying to figure things out for yourself
> without learning anything about the subject.
>
> I do not believe that anyone should expect to figure things out for
> themselves without studying the previous work of others. It is not only
> futile, but arrogantly futile.
>
> You may prize "thinking for yourself" as opposed to "being a parrot".
> But this is why we have schools, John, and this is why there is
> training. Knowledge is cumulative in mankind. It is not something that
> is recreated by every person from scratch. Reading a book does not make
> you a parrot, nor does it keep you from thinking for yourself. Reading
> enables you to think for yourself in a way that is not futile flailing.
>
> All you have ever done is futile flailing because you are terrified of
> reading. Even after thinking for yourself, you cannot justify WHY you
> believe the things you do. This should tell you that your methods of
> thinking are not well-enough structured to believe the outcomes.
>
Behavior fields! BwaHAHAHAHAHA!

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#597161

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-09-16 15:49 +0000
Message-ID<nrh4ab$7n6$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#597141
[Porat writes: ]   ps. learn to quote, John

>> imbecile parrot Bodkin Draper
>> force can be done  only !!y push
>> not by pull !!

[Odd writes: ]

>Who says?

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>I say.

So who the hell are you to say?  Where's your evidence?  How do you explain
electric charges where equal magnitude charges push or pull each other equally,
depending on the signs of the charges?

>Or else show me your tiny ropes.

Why would there be any tiny ropes?
You are so silly sometimes.

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#597223

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-16 17:14 -0400
Message-ID<57dc60c7$0$63779$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#597140
On 9/16/2016 8:12 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/16/2016 1:12 AM, poraty350@gmail.com wrote:
>> =========================================
>> imbecile parrot Bodkin Draper
>> force can be done  only !!y push
>> not by pull !!
>
> Who says?
>
Science says. Is space made up of ropes and strings that transmit force 
by a pull? I don't think so. Disconnected individual particles (gas etc. 
aether, etc,) can only PUSH on one another. There is no pull. Ideas like 
"suction" are as amateur as "centrifugal force".

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