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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-08-29 07:07 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-08-30 20:40 +0200 |
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Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 07:07 -0700
Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 07:09 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-29 15:11 +0000
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 09:18 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-29 17:21 +0000
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 10:38 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-29 18:45 +0000
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 14:19 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 14:33 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-30 02:26 +0000
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-08-30 12:36 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 15:08 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 10:22 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-01 00:22 +0000
could be, if you invert in a retroreflector noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 14:39 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 10:38 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-08-29 11:18 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-01 00:37 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 11:18 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 10:39 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-08-29 11:18 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-08-30 00:01 -0400
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 06:36 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-08-30 07:28 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 07:44 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-30 15:23 +0000
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-08-30 10:39 -0700
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-30 15:34 +0000
Re: Antimatter just upside down matter Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-08-30 20:40 +0200
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-08-29 11:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nq1ub1$ri9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #595074 |
"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote "Why would TreBert want to stay here?"... cuz ... ... In thread" "Glazier flagged as being abusive" <http://tinyurl.com/Glazier-the-Lying-Swine>, has been observed to encourage and animate other graveyards vandals to follow and copy-cat Cretin Glazier's criminal conduct & behavior. > So, Glazier, you will never become Mayor unless you have the moral fiber and the human decency to recant, repent, exculpate disavow and apologize for your criminality. > Glazier stop being a Swine; become a Mensch
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| From | Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-08-30 00:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jm0asb9lia2k0955j26i8muuvct5v318tj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #595054 |
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 07:07:55 -0700 (PDT), john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >Antimatter just has the "up" >electron installed in the "down" slot. >Everything is half and half I was thinking that if "charge" is caused by "spin" then an electron spinning in the opposite direction would constitute a positron. You could revere se the charge of an electron by turning it upside down. Looking down from the top (above N pole of spin axis), if they are spinning in opposite directions, their radial flux emissions (dc fields) would "mesh" and they would attract each other. If they were spinning in the same direction, these fluxes would "buckle" and they would repel each other. This was one of my old spin/charge theories but it didn't pan out so well because its apparent that flipping an electron upside down would reverse its charge (turn it into a positron) and I don't think that effect has been observed in nature. A magnetic field that flipped the electrons to from 'spin up" to "spin down" would turn them into positrons. Two colliding beams of such "trons" would release a lot of energy as the right side up trons annihilate with the upside down ones - lol. --------------------------------------------------- Michael J. Strickland Reston, VA ---------------------------------------------------
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-08-30 06:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e5ff2655-4a5a-435c-8570-b8e67e1d3d77@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #595189 |
MS Yes. That's what I am saying. The "down" electron in matter is an upside-down positron- which is negative because it is being run BACKWARDS. This occurs because the disc precesses TWICE every time it rotates ONCE. The 1:2 ratio seems to be special.
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| From | edprochak@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-08-30 07:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2014525b-e09d-4f11-bb39-bb342089ede7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #595221 |
On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 9:36:59 AM UTC-4, john wrote: > MS > Yes. > That's what I am saying. > The "down" electron in matter > is an upside-down positron- > which is negative because it is being > run BACKWARDS. > > This occurs because the disc precesses > TWICE every time it rotates ONCE. > The 1:2 ratio seems to be special. This is so wrong I do not even know what to say to help you learn some physics rather than speculation. ed
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-08-30 07:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9ec476d4-7b51-40da-b00a-53ddb892cdf5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #595222 |
Ed said "This is so wrong I do not even know what to say to help you learn some physics rather than speculation. " Ed, your "learned" bunch says the only way a member of a six-member ring can share three electrons equally with two neighbours is to have the third electron "delocalized". Personally, I think all their brains are delocalized. All you have to do in a ring to share three electrons equally is have everyone ship their third electron one way, and accept a third from the other way. "Delocalized" pfft!! Who is fucking in charge, here?
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-08-30 15:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nq48dc$ur3$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #595226 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded: >Ed said >"This is so wrong I do not even know what to say >to help you learn some physics rather than speculation. >" >Ed, your "learned" bunch says the only way >a member of a six-member ring can >share three electrons equally with >two neighbours is to have the third >electron "delocalized". >Personally, I think all their brains are delocalized. At least it's much better than "theories" that need to violate a half dozen laws of physics in order to work, just to satisfy someone's OCD or "Little Pharma"-induced hallucinations. And there is actual evidence that there are regions of negative charge above and below the plane of atoms in a benzene ring. Plus that model accurately predicts the chemistry of benzene (stability, what it reacts with and how, and what it doesn't react with). That's something you've NEVER been able to do, and frankly, you can't EVER do it.. >All you have to do in a ring >to share three electrons equally >is have everyone ship their third electron one >way, and accept a third from the >other way. >"Delocalized" pfft!! Flunk. Ignoring physics laws violations, that would predict completely different chemical behavior. >Who is fucking in charge, here? What Nature does doesn't depend on what may make the most sense, and Nature certainly isn't going to obey anyone "in charge".
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| From | edprochak@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-08-30 10:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <dc5c57c5-3633-4624-823b-300bfa35caea@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #595226 |
On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 10:44:40 AM UTC-4, john wrote: > Ed said > "This is so wrong I do not even know what to say > to help you learn some physics rather than speculation. > " > Ed, your "learned" bunch says the only way > a member of a six-member ring can > share three electrons equally with > two neighbours is to have the third > electron "delocalized". > > Personally, I think all their brains are delocalized. > > All you have to do in a ring > to share three electrons equally > is have everyone ship their third electron one > way, and accept a third from the > other way. > > "Delocalized" pfft!! > > Who is [bleep] in charge, here? So you switch the thread from particle physics to chemistry and then start swearing. Obviously nobody is in charge. that is the way USENET Newsgroups work.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-08-30 15:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nq491q$ur3$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #595221 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded: >This occurs because the disc precesses >TWICE every time it rotates ONCE. >The 1:2 ratio seems to be special. Only "special" in your Little Pharma-addled, OCD-deranged mind, obsessing over such things. To anyone else such as me, a 2:1 precess trace: Pretty. But boring. NEXT!
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-08-30 20:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1687892.PYKUYFuaPT@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #595189 |
Michael J. Strickland wrote: > On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 07:07:55 -0700 (PDT), john > <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Antimatter just has the "up" >>electron installed in the "down" slot. >>Everything is half and half > > I was thinking that if "charge" is caused by "spin" then an electron > spinning in the opposite direction would constitute a positron. A direct correlation between the electric charge and the spin of a particle has been disproved (to “john”, by me, here) already, only a few months ago. First *do research*, then post your ideas *referring that research*. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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