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Antimatter just upside down matter

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2016-08-29 07:07 -0700
Last post2016-08-30 20:40 +0200
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  Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 07:07 -0700
    Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 07:09 -0700
    Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-29 15:11 +0000
      Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 09:18 -0700
        Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-29 17:21 +0000
          Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 10:38 -0700
            Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-29 18:45 +0000
              Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 14:19 -0700
                Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 14:33 -0700
                  Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-30 02:26 +0000
                  Re: Antimatter just upside down matter Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-08-30 12:36 -0700
                    Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 15:08 -0700
                      Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 10:22 -0700
                        Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-01 00:22 +0000
                      could be, if you invert in a retroreflector noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 14:39 -0700
          Re: Antimatter just upside down matter "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 10:38 -0700
            Re: Antimatter just upside down matter "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-08-29 11:18 -0700
      Re: Antimatter just upside down matter poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-09-01 00:37 -0700
        Re: Antimatter just upside down matter noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 11:18 -0700
    Re: Antimatter just upside down matter "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 10:39 -0700
      Re: Antimatter just upside down matter "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-08-29 11:18 -0700
    Re: Antimatter just upside down matter Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-08-30 00:01 -0400
      Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 06:36 -0700
        Re: Antimatter just upside down matter edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-08-30 07:28 -0700
          Re: Antimatter just upside down matter john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 07:44 -0700
            Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-30 15:23 +0000
            Re: Antimatter just upside down matter edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-08-30 10:39 -0700
        Re: Antimatter just upside down matter moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-30 15:34 +0000
      Re: Antimatter just upside down matter Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-08-30 20:40 +0200

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#595079

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-08-29 11:18 -0700
Message-ID<nq1ub1$ri9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#595074
"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote
"Why would TreBert want to stay here?"... cuz ...
 ...
In thread" "Glazier flagged as being abusive"

<http://tinyurl.com/Glazier-the-Lying-Swine>,

has been observed to encourage and animate
other graveyards vandals to follow and copy-cat
Cretin Glazier's criminal conduct & behavior.

>
So, Glazier, you will never become  Mayor
unless you have the moral fiber and the
human decency to recant, repent, exculpate
disavow and apologize for your criminality.
>
Glazier stop being a Swine; become a Mensch


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#595189

FromMichael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net>
Date2016-08-30 00:01 -0400
Message-ID<jm0asb9lia2k0955j26i8muuvct5v318tj@4ax.com>
In reply to#595054
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 07:07:55 -0700 (PDT), john
<johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:

>Antimatter just has the "up"
>electron installed in the "down" slot.
>Everything is half and half

I was thinking that if "charge" is caused by "spin" then an electron
spinning in the opposite direction would constitute a positron. You
could revere se the charge of an electron by turning it upside down.

Looking down from the top (above N pole of spin axis), if they are
spinning in opposite directions, their radial flux emissions (dc
fields) would "mesh" and they would attract each other. If they were
spinning in the same direction, these fluxes would "buckle" and they
would repel each other.

This was one of my old spin/charge theories but it didn't pan out so
well because its apparent that flipping an electron upside down would
reverse its charge (turn it into a positron) and I don't think that
effect has been observed in nature. A magnetic field that flipped the
electrons to from 'spin up" to "spin down" would turn them into
positrons. Two colliding beams of such "trons" would release a lot of
energy as the right side up trons annihilate with the upside down ones
- lol.



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#595221

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-30 06:36 -0700
Message-ID<e5ff2655-4a5a-435c-8570-b8e67e1d3d77@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595189
MS
Yes.
That's what I am saying.
The "down" electron in matter
is an upside-down positron-
which is negative because it is being
run BACKWARDS.

This occurs because the disc precesses
TWICE every time it rotates ONCE.
The 1:2 ratio seems to be special.

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#595222

Fromedprochak@gmail.com
Date2016-08-30 07:28 -0700
Message-ID<2014525b-e09d-4f11-bb39-bb342089ede7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595221
On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 9:36:59 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> MS
> Yes.
> That's what I am saying.
> The "down" electron in matter
> is an upside-down positron-
> which is negative because it is being
> run BACKWARDS.
> 
> This occurs because the disc precesses
> TWICE every time it rotates ONCE.
> The 1:2 ratio seems to be special.

This is so wrong I do not even know what to say
to help you learn some physics rather than speculation.

ed

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#595226

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-30 07:44 -0700
Message-ID<9ec476d4-7b51-40da-b00a-53ddb892cdf5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595222
Ed said
"This is so wrong I do not even know what to say 
to help you learn some physics rather than speculation. 
"
Ed, your "learned" bunch says the only way
a member of a six-member ring can
share three electrons equally with
two neighbours is to have the third
electron "delocalized".

Personally, I think all their brains are delocalized.

All you have to do in a ring
to share three electrons equally
is have everyone ship their third electron one
way, and accept a third from the
other way.

"Delocalized" pfft!!

Who is fucking in charge, here?

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#595229

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-08-30 15:23 +0000
Message-ID<nq48dc$ur3$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#595226
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>Ed said
>"This is so wrong I do not even know what to say 
>to help you learn some physics rather than speculation. 
>"
>Ed, your "learned" bunch says the only way
>a member of a six-member ring can
>share three electrons equally with
>two neighbours is to have the third
>electron "delocalized".

>Personally, I think all their brains are delocalized.

At least it's much better than "theories" that need to violate a half dozen
laws of physics in order to work, just to satisfy someone's OCD or "Little
Pharma"-induced hallucinations.

And there is actual evidence that there are regions of negative charge above
and below the plane of atoms in a benzene ring.  Plus that model accurately
predicts the chemistry of benzene (stability, what it reacts with and how,
and what it doesn't react with).  That's something you've NEVER been able
to do, and frankly, you can't EVER do it..

>All you have to do in a ring
>to share three electrons equally
>is have everyone ship their third electron one
>way, and accept a third from the
>other way.

>"Delocalized" pfft!!

Flunk.  Ignoring physics laws violations, that would predict completely
different chemical behavior.

>Who is fucking in charge, here?

What Nature does doesn't depend on what may make the most sense, and
Nature certainly isn't going to obey anyone "in charge".

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#595237

Fromedprochak@gmail.com
Date2016-08-30 10:39 -0700
Message-ID<dc5c57c5-3633-4624-823b-300bfa35caea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595226
On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 10:44:40 AM UTC-4, john wrote:
> Ed said
> "This is so wrong I do not even know what to say 
> to help you learn some physics rather than speculation. 
> "
> Ed, your "learned" bunch says the only way
> a member of a six-member ring can
> share three electrons equally with
> two neighbours is to have the third
> electron "delocalized".
> 
> Personally, I think all their brains are delocalized.
> 
> All you have to do in a ring
> to share three electrons equally
> is have everyone ship their third electron one
> way, and accept a third from the
> other way.
> 
> "Delocalized" pfft!!
> 
> Who is [bleep] in charge, here?

So you switch the thread from particle physics to chemistry
and then start swearing.

Obviously nobody is in charge. that is the way USENET Newsgroups work.


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#595231

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-08-30 15:34 +0000
Message-ID<nq491q$ur3$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#595221
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>This occurs because the disc precesses
>TWICE every time it rotates ONCE.
>The 1:2 ratio seems to be special.

Only "special" in your Little Pharma-addled, OCD-deranged mind, obsessing over
such things.

To anyone else such as me, a 2:1 precess trace: Pretty. But boring. NEXT!

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#595246

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2016-08-30 20:40 +0200
Message-ID<1687892.PYKUYFuaPT@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#595189
Michael J.  Strickland wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 07:07:55 -0700 (PDT), john
> <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>Antimatter just has the "up"
>>electron installed in the "down" slot.
>>Everything is half and half
> 
> I was thinking that if "charge" is caused by "spin" then an electron
> spinning in the opposite direction would constitute a positron.

A direct correlation between the electric charge and the spin of a particle 
has been disproved (to “john”, by me, here) already, only a few months ago.  
First *do research*, then post your ideas *referring that research*.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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