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Refrigeration To Reduce Battery Size / Overall Energy Storage Costs

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  Refrigeration To Reduce Battery Size / Overall Energy Storage Costs Bret Cahill <bretcahill@aol.com> - 2016-06-22 16:09 -0700
    Re: Refrigeration To Reduce Battery Size / Overall Energy Storage Costs jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-22 23:34 +0000
    Re: Refrigeration To Reduce Battery Size / Overall Energy Storage Costs "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 19:38 -0700
    Re: Refrigeration To Reduce Battery Size / Overall Energy Storage Costs Bret Cahill <bretcahill@aol.com> - 2016-06-23 00:27 -0700
      Re: Refrigeration To Reduce Battery Size / Overall Energy Storage Costs "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 01:01 -0700
      Re: Refrigeration To Reduce Battery Size / Overall Energy Storage Costs jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 18:01 +0000
    Re: Refrigeration To Reduce Battery Size / Overall Energy Storage Costs Bret Cahill <bretcahill@aol.com> - 2016-06-24 11:13 -0700

#586246 — Refrigeration To Reduce Battery Size / Overall Energy Storage Costs

90% of the electric bill in the desert at this time of the year is HVAC

Freeze about 2 tons of water during the day and then sink heat into the ice at night.    Maybe 2/3rds of the solar power goes to running the conventional AC or heat pump during the day and 1/4 goes to freezing water for evening and night time cooling.

Load level with the freezer unit and the much smaller battery.  When the power from the PV is temporarily reduced by clouds the freezer unit would cut off while the heat pump would remain running.  The clouds should cool things off anyway.

In winter the heat pump would melt paraffin for night time heating.


Bret Cahill 

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#586249

Bret Cahill <bretcahill@aol.com> wrote:
> 90% of the electric bill in the desert at this time of the year is HVAC

It is a good thing that most people don't live in the desert.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#586265

On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 4:09:37 PM UTC-7, Bret Cahill wrote:
> 90% of the electric bill in the desert at this time of the year is HVAC
> 
> Freeze about 2 tons of water during the day and then sink heat into the ice
> at night.    Maybe 2/3rds of the solar power goes to running the conventional
> AC or heat pump during the day and 1/4 goes to freezing water for evening and
> night time cooling.

  Clearly you don't know why air conditioners are rated in "tons".


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#586287

> 90% of the electric bill in the desert at this time of the year is HVAC
> 
> Freeze about 2 tons of water during the day and then sink heat into the ice at night.    Maybe 2/3rds of the solar power goes to running the conventional AC or heat pump during the day and 1/4 goes to freezing water for evening and night time cooling.
> 
> Load level with the freezer unit and the much smaller battery.  When the power from the PV is temporarily reduced by clouds the freezer unit would cut off while the heat pump would remain running.  The clouds should cool things off anyway.
> 
> In winter the heat pump would melt paraffin for night time heating.

No intelligent responses?

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#586291

On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 12:28:02 AM UTC-7, Bret Cahill wrote:
> > 90% of the electric bill in the desert at this time of the year is HVAC
> > 
> > Freeze about 2 tons of water during the day and then sink heat into the ice at night.    Maybe 2/3rds of the solar power goes to running the conventional AC or heat pump during the day and 1/4 goes to freezing water for evening and night time cooling.
> > 
> > Load level with the freezer unit and the much smaller battery.  When the power from the PV is temporarily reduced by clouds the freezer unit would cut off while the heat pump would remain running.  The clouds should cool things off anyway.
> > 
> > In winter the heat pump would melt paraffin for night time heating.
> 
> No intelligent responses?

  Let's try it again, more explicitly; do you know why the cooling capacity of  refrigeration units is measured in units of "tons"?


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#586343

Bret Cahill <bretcahill@aol.com> wrote:
>> 90% of the electric bill in the desert at this time of the year is HVAC
>> 
>> Freeze about 2 tons of water during the day and then sink heat into the ice at night.    Maybe 2/3rds of the solar power goes to running the conventional AC or heat pump during the day and 1/4 goes to freezing water for evening and night time cooling.
>> 
>> Load level with the freezer unit and the much smaller battery.  When the power from the PV is temporarily reduced by clouds the freezer unit would cut off while the heat pump would remain running.  The clouds should cool things off anyway.
>> 
>> In winter the heat pump would melt paraffin for night time heating.
> 
> No intelligent responses?
 
Perhaps if you posed an intelligent question.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#586435

> 90% of the electric bill in the desert at this time of the year is HVAC
> 
> Freeze about 2 tons of water during the day and then sink heat into the ice at night.    Maybe 2/3rds of the solar power goes to running the conventional AC or heat pump during the day and 1/4 goes to freezing water for evening and night time cooling.
> 
> Load level with the freezer unit and the much smaller battery.  When the power from the PV is temporarily reduced by clouds the freezer unit would cut off while the heat pump would remain running.  The clouds should cool things off anyway.
> 
> In winter the heat pump would melt paraffin for night time heating.

It always takes a longer time for the more intelligent posters to appear but it shouldn't take 2 days.


Bret Cahill

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