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Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom

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First post2016-07-26 21:25 -0700
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  Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 21:25 -0700
    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 07:49 -0500
    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-27 13:42 +0000
      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 07:26 -0700
        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 09:29 -0500
        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-27 15:08 +0000
          Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 10:37 -0700
            Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 12:04 -0700
              Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-27 20:48 +0000
                Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 05:04 -0700
                  Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 07:12 -0700
                    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom B Gates <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-07-28 19:43 -0400
                  Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-28 14:16 +0000
                  Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 09:35 -0500
                    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 09:43 -0700
                      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-28 18:02 +0000
                      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 14:27 -0500
                        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 14:28 -0700
                          Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-29 05:20 +0000
                            Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 06:30 -0700
                              Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-29 15:18 +0000
                                Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 08:23 -0700
                                  Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 10:49 -0500
                                  Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-29 18:12 +0000
                                    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom brandonahenley9@gmail.com - 2016-07-29 12:08 -0700
                                      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 19:37 -0700
                                        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-30 05:52 +0000
                                        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 05:07 -0700
                                          Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-30 17:12 -0400
                                          Processes that _consume_ energy. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 11:57 -0700
                                            Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 12:19 -0700
                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-05 19:51 +0000
                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 13:01 -0700
                                                  Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 15:36 -0500
                                                    Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 15:28 -0700
                                                      Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 18:36 -0500
                                                      Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-06 01:18 +0000
                                                        Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 20:45 -0700
                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-06 13:49 +0000
                                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 07:05 -0700
                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 11:38 -0700
                                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 11:51 -0700
                                                                  Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 11:59 -0700
                                                                    Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-06 22:31 +0000
                                                                      Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 16:09 -0700
                                                                        Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-07 00:01 +0000
                                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 17:10 -0700
                                                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-07 05:15 +0000
                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 05:38 -0700
                                                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 06:23 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-07 22:44 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 16:58 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-08 01:48 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 19:03 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-08 03:58 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 00:57 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 07:54 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-08 15:24 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-08 15:15 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 10:29 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 14:47 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 17:13 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-08 19:13 -0400
                                                                                    waves-ies noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 13:24 -0700
                                                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-07 13:24 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 06:32 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 06:45 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 09:01 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 08:05 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 13:30 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 13:32 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 10:19 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-07 22:24 +0000
                                                                        Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-08 18:00 -0400
                                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 15:07 -0700
                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-06 23:10 +0000
                                                  Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-06 01:00 +0000
                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 15:16 -0500
                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-05 16:12 -0400
                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 13:32 -0700
                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-05 19:23 -0400
                                        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 12:48 -0500
                                        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 12:54 -0500
                                          Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 13:21 -0500
                                            Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-31 23:01 +0000
                                              Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 06:26 -0700
                                                Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:54 -0500
                                                Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-01 14:32 +0000
                                                  waves alfvenic, slow, fast, nedium noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 15:47 -0700
                          Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 09:06 -0500
            Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-27 19:05 +0000
            Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 14:22 -0500
      dictions of pre-that-and-this noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 17:22 -0700
    Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 07:04 -0700
      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom B Gates <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-07-28 19:39 -0400
      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 19:12 -0700
    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-29 12:04 -0700

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#592095 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-06 11:38 -0700
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<a45336f6-84e1-4f3d-a37d-f4b1041707ef@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592072
The double-layered spherical halo of old
globular stars, moving in different directions,
is caused by precession of the spinning
disc.
Every second time the disc comes through,
the edge is going the opposite way, since
the precession is twice the rotation, and
these globular clusters are coming off
the ends of the arms.
(See Benzene:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/BenzeneE.GIF )

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#592100 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-06 11:51 -0700
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<f98775d6-d467-4ec9-b531-6d15ece91bfe@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592095
Galactic rotation curves are different
on opposite sides of the disc. The curve
used is always an average of the two.
Why do the stars appear to be going 
different speeds on different sides of
the disc? Because one side is coming
towards you, and the other is receding;
the disc is precessing.

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#592101 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-06 11:59 -0700
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<62a02eda-008f-4026-8a4c-772acdaf617c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592100
Something like 85% of spiral galaxies
that can be seen well-enough have
opposite warping on the edge of
their disc- like a sombrero with one edge
bent up and the opposite bent down.
Cause? Precession.

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#592133 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-08-06 22:31 +0000
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<no5ofm$n5h$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#592101
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Something like 85% of spiral galaxies
>that can be seen well-enough have
>opposite warping on the edge of
>their disc- like a sombrero with one edge
>bent up and the opposite bent down.
>Cause? Precession.

You really really need to talk to a doctor about this precession OCD
or whatever it really is.

Seriously.  I mean it.

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#592135 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-06 16:09 -0700
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<c469cb8c-2b6f-49e5-8ce1-0ff4b591381a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592133
Michael Moroney
- show quoted text -
You really really need to talk to a doctor about this precession OCD 
or whatever it really is. 

Seriously.  I mean it. 
-----------

John has obviously been prescribing his own medications. 

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#592148 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-08-07 00:01 +0000
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<no5tp8$jbr$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#592135
HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael Moroney
>- show quoted text -
>You really really need to talk to a doctor about this precession OCD 
>or whatever it really is. 

>Seriously.  I mean it. 
>-----------

>John has obviously been prescribing his own medications. 

Little Pharma!

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#592149 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-06 17:10 -0700
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<dd4b2113-e623-41fc-b5c4-07301e7ef936@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592148
Mickey
Yep. Spherical double- layered halo.
With different flows.

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#592179 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-08-07 05:15 +0000
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<no6g5h$kjd$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#592149
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Mickey
>Yep. Spherical double- layered halo.
>With different flows.

Nope, the orbital planes of the clusters are essentially at random, other
than near the plane of the galaxy disk itself, because of its influence.

But go ahead and believe your spinny thing fantasy, as your OCD rages
out of control.

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#592183 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-07 05:38 -0700
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<b0aed04a-243c-4a21-a266-4cec2ba63aa4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592179
Hey, Mickey, you're so fine

http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/astronomers-discover-dizzying-spin-of-the-milky-way-galaxy-s-halo 

"Astronomers at the University of Michigan’s College of Literature, Science, and the Arts (LSA) discovered for the first time that the hot gas in the halo of the Milky Way galaxy is spinning in the same direction and at comparable speed as the galaxy's disk, which contains our stars, planets, gas, and dust"

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#592186 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-07 06:23 -0700
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<5722457d-4534-421c-84fb-b1c0370ad7e9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592183
Hey, Mickey, you're so fine
You're so fine you blow my mind.

No, Michael.
I've said it before.
The whole galaxy is like a whirlpool-
everything is carried along.

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#592259 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-08-07 22:44 +0000
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<no8dkh$se6$5@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#592186
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Hey, Mickey, you're so fine
>You're so fine you blow my mind.

>No, Michael.
>I've said it before.
>The whole galaxy is like a whirlpool-
>everything is carried along.

Which is wrong, of course.  The stars move into and out of the arms as
they orbit the center.  It resembles a standing wave more than anything
else.

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#592262 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-07 16:58 -0700
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<477fbbd5-51b0-4cd8-9434-dce944d21b8d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592259
Mickey
They said everything moves the same
way at the same rate.
Yes, stars move around in there.
Bees move around in a beehive, too,
but it can certainly be given spin.

You guys are in SUCH denial

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#592282 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-08-08 01:48 +0000
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<no8oda$bfe$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#592262
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Mickey
>They

Who?

> said everything moves the same
>way at the same rate.

Yes galactic rotation curves typically have stars all moving at the same
speed regardless of their distance, beyond a certain distance.  That does
NOT mean it rotates as a solid unit since a star twice as far from the
center as a second star moves at the same speed as the second star, but
takes twice as long to go around, since it travels twice the distance.

>Yes, stars move around in there.
>Bees move around in a beehive, too,
>but it can certainly be given spin.

Yeah, so what?

>You guys are in SUCH denial

Denial of what?

YOU are in denial of your own OCD.

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#592284 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-07 19:03 -0700
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<2ab06c07-02a2-4a4f-bbdc-28a0bf3b2b44@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592282
Mickey said
"Who?"
Mickey can't remember things.
Here, Mickey- I c+p ed this from 
just up above:

"Astronomers at the University of Michigan’s College of Literature, Science, and the Arts (LSA) discovered for the first time that the hot gas in the halo of the Milky Way galaxy is spinning in the same direction and at comparable speed as the galaxy's disk, which contains our stars, planets, gas, and dust" 

That's who

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#592291 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-08-08 03:58 +0000
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<no900e$fit$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#592284
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Mickey said
>"Who?"
>Mickey can't remember things.

You never quote what you are responding to.
I just see these zero context quotes from you.

>Here, Mickey- I c+p ed this from
>just up above:

Just up above what? I don't use the same newsreader you do so "just up
above" has zero meaning.  It's like Archie Pu's "front page hog" rants.
I don't use Giggle Groups so I don't have any such thing as a "front
page hog" as I don't have a front page to hog.

Anyway, the globular clusters don't orbit in counter-rotating shells
like you claimed, before you moved the goalposts to the gas rotating in
one single direction.

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#592307 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-08 00:57 -0700
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<5371b131-a6e3-4103-9166-dcab5bf044c9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592291
Michael said
"Anyway, the globular clusters don't orbit in counter-rotating shells 
like you claimed, before you moved the goalposts to the gas rotating in 
one single direction. "
There is more than one population of
globular clusters.

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#592325 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-08 07:54 -0700
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<4770799e-6275-43a5-9857-deeab47c9b28@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592307
http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/astronomers-discover-dizzying-spin-of-the-milky-way-galaxy-s-halo 

"Astronomers at the University of Michigan’s College of Literature, Science, and the Arts (LSA) discovered for the first time that the hot gas in the halo of the Milky Way galaxy is spinning in the same direction and at comparable speed as the galaxy's disk, which contains our stars, planets, gas, and dust" 

Proving that a galaxy turns AS A UNIT.
Proving that those who have
been saying otherwise are FOS.
Proving that DM is nonsense.

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#592332 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-08-08 15:24 +0000
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<noa86h$ud0$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#592325
Because of the conservation of angular momentum, and assuming the Milky
Way formed from this cloud in the first place, I would _expect_ the gas
to have similar rotation to the Milky Way.

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>Proving that a galaxy turns AS A UNIT.

Nope, it does not say that, they give different speeds.

>Proving that those who have
>been saying otherwise are FOS.

Does not follow.

>Proving that DM is nonsense.

Did you notice that the article gives support for dark matter?

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#592329 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-08-08 15:15 +0000
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<noa7nf$ud0$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#592307
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael said
>"Anyway, the globular clusters don't orbit in counter-rotating shells 
>like you claimed, before you moved the goalposts to the gas rotating in 
>one single direction. "
>There is more than one population of
>globular clusters.

Sorry, no.  That refers to all the globular clusters of the Milky Way that
we can see from Earth.

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#592334 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-08 10:29 -0500
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<noa8h7$p5g$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#592284
On 8/7/2016 9:03 PM, john wrote:
> Mickey said
> "Who?"
> Mickey can't remember things.
> Here, Mickey- I c+p ed this from
> just up above:
>
> "Astronomers at the University of Michigan’s College of Literature, Science, and the
> Arts (LSA) discovered for the first time that the hot gas in the halo of the Milky Way
> galaxy is spinning in the same direction and at comparable speed as the galaxy's disk,
> which contains our stars, planets, gas, and dust"
>
> That's who
>

So you can't read.

I'll explain what this sentence means.
At the position of the Sun, which is about 2/3 of the way out, the time 
for one complete revolution of the stars at that radius is 240 million 
years. But nearer the center, where the bar is (the Milky Way is a 
barred spiral galaxy), the time for one complete revolution is 110 
million years. Further out to the edges, the time for one complete 
revolution is 360 million years. So CLEARLY the galaxy is not rotating 
as a unit.

What the sentence in the article you quoted is saying is that the region 
of the halo that has about the same radius as the bar of the Milky Way 
also takes 110 million years to revolve. The region of the halo that is 
at distances about that of the sun is revolving once every 240 million 
years.

So the halo is in synch with the Milky Way, though the whole Milky Way 
does not revolve as a unit.

You keep telling people to pull their heads out of their asses, but 
John, what you are spouting off is due to the fact that you do not read 
much and you can't understand even the short things you do read.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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