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  Gravity affects light john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 06:54 -0700
    Re: Gravity affects light noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 07:28 -0700
      Re: Gravity affects light john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 09:38 -0700
        Re: Gravity affects light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 11:46 -0500
          Re: Gravity affects light john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 11:45 -0700
            Re: Gravity affects light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 15:08 -0500
              Re: Gravity affects light HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 15:03 -0700
                Re: Gravity affects light benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-05 19:36 -0400
              Re: Gravity affects light john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 15:17 -0700
                Re: Gravity affects light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 18:32 -0500
                  Re: Gravity affects light benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-06 15:58 -0400
                    Re: Gravity affects light HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 07:22 -0700
                      Re: Gravity affects light john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 08:10 -0700
                      Re: Gravity affects light benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-08 18:14 -0400
                Re: Gravity affects light benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-05 19:54 -0400
        Re: Gravity affects light moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-05 18:50 +0000

#591961 — Gravity affects light

Except when it's in the LIGO tube?

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#591963

the speed of waves of light is only dependent
upon the index of refraction ... since it's wavey-ish

> Except when it's in the LIGO tube?

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#591968

Well, they claim that it FALLS twice
as fast as matter, so why
are the lasers in LIGO
unaffected, but the structure IS?

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#591969

On 8/5/2016 11:38 AM, john wrote:
> Well, they claim that it FALLS twice
> as fast as matter, so why
> are the lasers in LIGO
> unaffected, but the structure IS?
>

The lasers ARE affected and the light DOES bend because of the gravity.
Now, what do you think the effect would be on how LIGO operates?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#591977

Odd
If you think you can point to
any particular vibration in
your ultra sensitive vibration detector
and identify it, great.
You also think a corpse can
be "sculpted" from joints and
strawberry jam,
and then meticulously dissected
layer by layer,
and fool people (like me)
who HAVE dissected corpses.
So..

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#591997

On 8/5/2016 1:45 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> If you think you can point to
> any particular vibration in
> your ultra sensitive vibration detector
> and identify it, great.

That's the whole point of pattern recognition and signal to noise.

> You also think a corpse can
> be "sculpted" from joints and
> strawberry jam,
> and then meticulously dissected
> layer by layer,
> and fool people (like me)
> who HAVE dissected corpses.
> So..

It is a documented FACT that Ray Santilli and John Humphreys, who made 
the alien autopsy, claim that they did in fact fool you and that they 
made those models out of butcher parts and jam and assorted other 
things. So let's get it straight that you are calling Ray Santilli and 
John Humphreys liars. You are saying that they could not have possibly 
fooled you, where they say they did. You are saying they did not create 
those dummies out of butcher parts and jam, where they say they DID. 
Either way, they are liars in your eyes. You claim they did not tell the 
truth about what they did.

And yet, after calling them liars, you are saying that you believe the 
movie they produced.

Explain to me how you justify that thinking.



-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#592016

Odd Bodkin
On 8/5/2016 1:45 PM, john wrote: 
> Odd 
> If you think you can point to 
> any particular vibration in 
> your ultra sensitive vibration detector 
> and identify it, great. 

That's the whole point of pattern recognition and signal to noise. 

> You also think a corpse can 
> be "sculpted" from joints and 
> strawberry jam, 
> and then meticulously dissected 
> layer by layer, 
> and fool people (like me) 
> who HAVE dissected corpses. 
> So.. 

It is a documented FACT that Ray Santilli and John Humphreys, who made 
the alien autopsy, claim that they did in fact fool you and that they 
made those models out of butcher parts and jam and assorted other 
things. So let's get it straight that you are calling Ray Santilli and 
John Humphreys liars. You are saying that they could not have possibly 
fooled you, where they say they did. You are saying they did not create 
those dummies out of butcher parts and jam, where they say they DID. 
Either way, they are liars in your eyes. You claim they did not tell the 
truth about what they did. 

And yet, after calling them liars, you are saying that you believe the 
movie they produced. 

Explain to me how you justify that thinking. 
-----------

He gots you there nigga 

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#592031

On 8/5/2016 6:03 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Odd Bodkin
> On 8/5/2016 1:45 PM, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> If you think you can point to
>> any particular vibration in
>> your ultra sensitive vibration detector
>> and identify it, great.
>
> That's the whole point of pattern recognition and signal to noise.
>
>> You also think a corpse can
>> be "sculpted" from joints and
>> strawberry jam,
>> and then meticulously dissected
>> layer by layer,
>> and fool people (like me)
>> who HAVE dissected corpses.
>> So..
>
> It is a documented FACT that Ray Santilli and John Humphreys, who made
> the alien autopsy, claim that they did in fact fool you and that they
> made those models out of butcher parts and jam and assorted other
> things. So let's get it straight that you are calling Ray Santilli and
> John Humphreys liars. You are saying that they could not have possibly
> fooled you, where they say they did. You are saying they did not create
> those dummies out of butcher parts and jam, where they say they DID.
> Either way, they are liars in your eyes. You claim they did not tell the
> truth about what they did.
>
> And yet, after calling them liars, you are saying that you believe the
> movie they produced.
>
> Explain to me how you justify that thinking.
> -----------
>
> He gots you there nigga
>
Racis' Lib.

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#592017

Odd
I believed the dissection.
I've done them.

Somehow, the corpse looked
IDENTICAL to that picture that
Bushman showed- except it had
6 jointed fingers (picked up one
too many at the butcher's?) instead
of the FIVE that the doll had.

How coincidental!

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#592026

On 8/5/2016 5:17 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> I believed the dissection.

Done by WHO? People you say are liars.
How are you getting around that fact?

You're saying that the dissection was REAL, though it was performed by 
liars and filmed by liars.

Hmmmmmm. How does your brain work, John?

> I've done them.
>
> Somehow, the corpse looked
> IDENTICAL to that picture that
> Bushman showed- except it had
> 6 jointed fingers (picked up one
> too many at the butcher's?) instead
> of the FIVE that the doll had.
>
> How coincidental!
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#592110

On 8/5/2016 7:32 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/5/2016 5:17 PM, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> I believed the dissection.
>
> Done by WHO? People you say are liars.
> How are you getting around that fact?
>
> You're saying that the dissection was REAL, though it was performed by
> liars and filmed by liars.
>
> Hmmmmmm. How does your brain work, John?

Bingo! Boinker usually you are a clown in left field but this time you 
are right on about John's gullibility. The government are PROVEN liars. 
That they are covering up UFO related data is proven by their OWN 
DOCUMENTS. So who is going to believe a bunch of people working for the 
government? They have the means and money to do a PERFECT FAKE of any 
autopsy! (For conspiracy fun, look into how the bullet track got 
reversed in the JFK autopsy) So Boinker is on the money, when he asks, 
how you can blindly trust a bunch of people not only with the means and 
the will to fake anything but have been PROVEN liars over and over?

Unless you were there, how can you just accept this story? And even if 
you WERE there, probably what you THINK you saw wasn't true. Didn't you 
ever watch "mission impossible"?

John, you are as bad as the people who believe HVAC that I "believe" in 
ghosts. And he doesn't even TRY to fake anything he just repeats the lie 
over and over and pretty soon: monkey see, monkey do.


>> I've done them.
>>
>> Somehow, the corpse looked
>> IDENTICAL to that picture that
>> Bushman showed- except it had
>> 6 jointed fingers (picked up one
>> too many at the butcher's?) instead
>> of the FIVE that the doll had.
>>
>> How coincidental!
>>
>
>

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#592192

BJ quacked
n 8/5/2016 7:32 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: 
> On 8/5/2016 5:17 PM, john wrote: 
>> Odd 
>> I believed the dissection. 
> 
> Done by WHO? People you say are liars. 
> How are you getting around that fact? 
> 
> You're saying that the dissection was REAL, though it was performed by 
> liars and filmed by liars. 
> 
> Hmmmmmm. How does your brain work, John? 

Bingo! Boinker usually you are a clown in left field but this time you 
are right on about John's gullibility. 
-------------

See john? Even BJ is calling you a gullible, stupid cocksucker. And he's the retard who believes in ghosts!

Stay thirsty my friends

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#592196

HVAC
He just called you a lying sack of
shit, and you say he's "right on".
Haha.
I gotta agree

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#592402

On 8/7/2016 10:22 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> n 8/5/2016 7:32 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/5/2016 5:17 PM, john wrote:
>>> Odd
>>> I believed the dissection.
>>
>> Done by WHO? People you say are liars.
>> How are you getting around that fact?
>>
>> You're saying that the dissection was REAL, though it was performed by
>> liars and filmed by liars.
>>
>> Hmmmmmm. How does your brain work, John?
>
> Bingo! Boinker usually you are a clown in left field but this time you
> are right on about John's gullibility.
> -------------
>
> See john? Even BJ is calling you a gullible, stupid cocksucker. And he's the retard who believes in ghosts!
>
> Stay thirsty my friends
>
John, Don't worry about hardblow. He's trying to disrupt, while I am 
trying to educate (HVAC is a hopeless case when it comes to education)

Hardblow has a government account, so why doesn't he just look up all my 
emails, posts, purchases, website surfings, library books and all the 
other conversations I've had with people and count the time I've even 
MENTIONED ghosts?  He won't because the truth is the answer is zero 
because I could give a shit about ghosts and people like hardblow who 
are scared of them.

Then He should look up his OWN record of posts, and emails and papers he 
wrote and books he "co-authored" and see how often math or physics is 
actually mentioned by him in a coherent way. Again the truth will be 
ZERO. Journalists have flunked every science and math course they ever 
tried to take. That's why they have to work as journalists. Fantasy is 
all they've got.

Don't forget HVAC is gay and needs to come out. I"m sure he's proud he's 
gay but too frightened to admit it.

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#592034

On 8/5/2016 6:17 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> I believed the dissection.
> I've done them.
>
> Somehow, the corpse looked
> IDENTICAL to that picture that
> Bushman showed- except it had
> 6 jointed fingers (picked up one
> too many at the butcher's?) instead
> of the FIVE that the doll had.
>
> How coincidental!

John, I've warned you about this many times and I'm going to warn you 
again. When it comes to UFOs and all that goes with it, those in power 
have a EXTREME interest in keeping all true facts covered up. They have 
basically limitless resources (your money) to do that with. They get the 
press to ridicule anyone with true facts, they hire writers to make up 
bullshit and write books that the gullible swallow, then they hire clown 
journalists like HVAC to tear down the bullshit they just produced. They 
spin you round and round chasing your own tail until you don't know 
which way is up. As HVAC says, he'll hit you with so many rights you'll 
beg him for a left. FOIA of the Government's own documents shows BEYOND 
ANY DOUBT that there has been a serious coverup of all this stuff since 
probably before WWII. And that means that going on line, reading a bunch 
of books or magazines and believing the fantasy crap in there will lead 
only in circles.

So if you are going start believing in aliens, and UFOs and autopsies. 
Well you had damn well have BEEN THERE and seen it yourself or you are 
fool and a rube just waiting to manipulated by the likes of HVAC.

Ever notice that so many of the so-called "contactees" end up having a 
history of working in the intelligence community? Think that is an 
accident? We need to grill HVAC about his spook work history.

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#591981

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Well, they claim that it FALLS twice
>as fast as matter, so why
>are the lasers in LIGO
>unaffected, but the structure IS?

You sound really confused.

Who said the lasers in LIGO are unaffected?

Calculate how much a horizontal beam of light will fall in Earth's gravity over
the distance of a LIGO arm (about 4 km).

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