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Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom

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  Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 21:25 -0700
    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 07:49 -0500
    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-27 13:42 +0000
      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 07:26 -0700
        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 09:29 -0500
        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-27 15:08 +0000
          Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 10:37 -0700
            Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 12:04 -0700
              Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-27 20:48 +0000
                Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 05:04 -0700
                  Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 07:12 -0700
                    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom B Gates <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-07-28 19:43 -0400
                  Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-28 14:16 +0000
                  Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 09:35 -0500
                    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 09:43 -0700
                      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-28 18:02 +0000
                      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 14:27 -0500
                        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 14:28 -0700
                          Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-29 05:20 +0000
                            Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 06:30 -0700
                              Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-29 15:18 +0000
                                Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 08:23 -0700
                                  Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 10:49 -0500
                                  Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-29 18:12 +0000
                                    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom brandonahenley9@gmail.com - 2016-07-29 12:08 -0700
                                      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 19:37 -0700
                                        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-30 05:52 +0000
                                        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 05:07 -0700
                                          Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-30 17:12 -0400
                                          Processes that _consume_ energy. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 11:57 -0700
                                            Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 12:19 -0700
                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-05 19:51 +0000
                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 13:01 -0700
                                                  Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 15:36 -0500
                                                    Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 15:28 -0700
                                                      Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 18:36 -0500
                                                      Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-06 01:18 +0000
                                                        Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 20:45 -0700
                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-06 13:49 +0000
                                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 07:05 -0700
                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 11:38 -0700
                                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 11:51 -0700
                                                                  Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 11:59 -0700
                                                                    Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-06 22:31 +0000
                                                                      Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 16:09 -0700
                                                                        Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-07 00:01 +0000
                                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 17:10 -0700
                                                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-07 05:15 +0000
                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 05:38 -0700
                                                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 06:23 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-07 22:44 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 16:58 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-08 01:48 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 19:03 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-08 03:58 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 00:57 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 07:54 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-08 15:24 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-08 15:15 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 10:29 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 14:47 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 17:13 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-08 19:13 -0400
                                                                                    waves-ies noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 13:24 -0700
                                                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-07 13:24 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 06:32 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 06:45 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 09:01 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 08:05 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 13:30 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 13:32 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 10:19 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-07 22:24 +0000
                                                                        Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-08 18:00 -0400
                                                                          Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 15:07 -0700
                                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-06 23:10 +0000
                                                  Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-06 01:00 +0000
                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 15:16 -0500
                                            Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-05 16:12 -0400
                                              Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 13:32 -0700
                                                Re: Processes that _consume_ energy. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-05 19:23 -0400
                                        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 12:48 -0500
                                        Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 12:54 -0500
                                          Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 13:21 -0500
                                            Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-31 23:01 +0000
                                              Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 06:26 -0700
                                                Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:54 -0500
                                                Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-01 14:32 +0000
                                                  waves alfvenic, slow, fast, nedium noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 15:47 -0700
                          Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 09:06 -0500
            Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-27 19:05 +0000
            Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 14:22 -0500
      dictions of pre-that-and-this noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 17:22 -0700
    Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 07:04 -0700
      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom B Gates <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-07-28 19:39 -0400
      Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 19:12 -0700
    Re: Predictions of Galaxy Model for the Atom Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-29 12:04 -0700

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#592024 — Re: Processes that _consume_ energy.

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-08-05 19:23 -0400
SubjectRe: Processes that _consume_ energy.
Message-ID<57a51fe1$0$63517$b1db1813$145976f0@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#592007
On 8/5/2016 4:32 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> Energy doesn't run out because God is constantly supplying it! :-)
> ------------
>
> I don't believe in God as do you. You posit an invisible man who supplies us as if we were fish in a bowl. I disagree.
>
>
> HVAC doesn't believe in God so he believes that for ghosts to have
> persistence of consciousness, energy must never run out...ever!
> --------
>
> I don't believe in ghosts as do you. If ghosts existed, as you believe, the entire physical nature of the universe would be upended. You may be convinced but no one in the field of science... Any science, agrees with you. You're alone. You're the crazy rat running around in the shithouse.
>
> Right right?
>
Folks, one more fine example what what HVAC calls an "education in 
science". To him the only "science" he knows is making fun of "god" and 
pretending other people believe in ghosts. He wants so deperately to be 
loved and admired but there is even less than Reber gets. HVAC is the 
gay loser.

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#591280

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-30 12:48 -0500
Message-ID<nnip9o$1ooi$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#591239
On 7/29/2016 9:37 PM, john wrote:
> The only way for stuff in atoms and
> galaxies to NOT run out of energy
> is for everything to run the
> shortest possible repeating
> pathways.

That's an interesting law you just made up.
Care to offer an argument for this law you just made up?

> This is accomplished with the
> 1 rotation/2 precession standing
> wave.
> The torque that Michael and Odd are
> so worried about only needs to
> happen once- to both rotate and
> precess-

That is an incorrect statement. Remove the torque from a precessing 
system and it will stop precessing. This is something you can do in your 
garage.

> after which you have
> a standing wave that feeds on itself
> and is extremely permanent- an atom.
>
> Analyze the star spectra with disc
> precession in mind, and see what the
> computer thinks
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#591282

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-30 12:54 -0500
Message-ID<nnipl0$1ptg$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#591239
On 7/29/2016 9:37 PM, john wrote:
> The only way for stuff in atoms and
> galaxies to NOT run out of energy
> is for everything to run the
> shortest possible repeating
> pathways.
> This is accomplished with the
> 1 rotation/2 precession standing
> wave.
> The torque that Michael and Odd are
> so worried about only needs to
> happen once- to both rotate and
> precess- after which you have
> a standing wave that feeds on itself
> and is extremely permanent- an atom.
>
> Analyze the star spectra with disc
> precession in mind, and see what the
> computer thinks
>

I think it's fascinating how you, John, believe it is better to have an 
original thought about physics that flies in the face of all known laws 
of physics, than it is to have an original thought that is consistent 
with the laws of physics. To you, apparently, even FAMILIARITY with 
those laws of physics is an encumbrance and a hindrance to creative 
thought, and so should be avoided.

After all, without consideration or even knowledge of any laws of 
physics, one could solve all the world's problems with original ideas 
about antigravity drives, perpetual motion machines, spontaneous 
production of electric charge, precognition, infinitely rigid materials, 
and alchemy. And who should stand in the path of that!?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#591284

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-30 13:21 -0500
Message-ID<nnir81$1sb2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#591282
On 7/30/2016 12:54 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/29/2016 9:37 PM, john wrote:
>> The only way for stuff in atoms and
>> galaxies to NOT run out of energy
>> is for everything to run the
>> shortest possible repeating
>> pathways.
>> This is accomplished with the
>> 1 rotation/2 precession standing
>> wave.
>> The torque that Michael and Odd are
>> so worried about only needs to
>> happen once- to both rotate and
>> precess- after which you have
>> a standing wave that feeds on itself
>> and is extremely permanent- an atom.
>>
>> Analyze the star spectra with disc
>> precession in mind, and see what the
>> computer thinks
>>
>
> I think it's fascinating how you, John, believe it is better to have an
> original thought about physics that flies in the face of all known laws
> of physics, than it is to have an original thought that is consistent
> with the laws of physics. To you, apparently, even FAMILIARITY with
> those laws of physics is an encumbrance and a hindrance to creative
> thought, and so should be avoided.
>
> After all, without consideration or even knowledge of any laws of
> physics, one could solve all the world's problems with original ideas
> about antigravity drives, perpetual motion machines, spontaneous
> production of electric charge, precognition, infinitely rigid materials,
> and alchemy. And who should stand in the path of that!?
>

As a matter of interest, John, I believe you have been estimated to rank 
highly with a value of 1.22 Megadingles.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#591437

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-07-31 23:01 +0000
Message-ID<nnlvvq$k6e$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#591284
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>On 7/30/2016 12:54 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 7/29/2016 9:37 PM, john wrote:

>>> The torque that Michael and Odd are
>>> so worried about only needs to
>>> happen once- to both rotate and
>>> precess- after which you have
>>> a standing wave that feeds on itself
>>> and is extremely permanent- an atom.

So John, you are so obsessed with your precessing spinny things that you
now feel the need to invent new laws of physics that would allow them to
exist?

Don't you think it's better to talk to your doctor instead?


>As a matter of interest, John, I believe you have been estimated to rank 
>highly with a value of 1.22 Megadingles.

Megadingle...as a measure of the crackedness of one's pot...that's good.  
Named for the original anti-relativity crank.

But we still need an "einstein" unit. Preferably for something that would 
drive anti-relativity cranks nuts, like if they used "einstein" instead
of gamma in length contraction equations.  Or something that gets used
all the time, for example if they replaced "volt" with "einstein" so 
people would talk of a 12 einstein car battery...

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#591496

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-01 06:26 -0700
Message-ID<7cdba003-75be-4454-afbc-8053cbe4cc66@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#591437
Hey 'tards-
At least I don't believe
in "dark matter" conveniently
secreted wherever it's needed!!
Describe your "dark matter". Can it fly?

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#591499

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-01 08:54 -0500
Message-ID<nnnka1$c6d$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#591496
On 8/1/2016 8:26 AM, john wrote:
> Hey 'tards-
> At least I don't believe

According to John, ANYTHING is better than believing in dark matter.
Why believe in something new that's never been seen before, when you can 
believe in JOHN'S something new that's never been seen before AND which 
violates known physical laws??


> in "dark matter" conveniently
> secreted wherever it's needed!!

Remember when neutrinos were things that had never been detected before, 
and were hypothesized to exist to conveniently preserve energy 
conservation and angular momentum conservation? And then they turned out 
to be really there!

So consider the possibility, John, that the dark matter hypothesis is 
like where the neutrino hypothesis was 50 years ago.

> Describe your "dark matter". Can it fly?
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#591500

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-08-01 14:32 +0000
Message-ID<nnnmhi$vm$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#591496
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>Hey 'tards-

Talking to yourself? And a mouse in your pocket?

>At least I don't believe
>in "dark matter" conveniently
>secreted wherever it's needed!!

Still haven't found a five year old to explain "invisible heavy stuff" to you yet?

>Describe your "dark matter". Can it fly?

It interacts gravitationally.  It does not interact electromagnetically.
In other words, "invisible heavy stuff".  That's about all we know about it.

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#591554 — waves alfvenic, slow, fast, nedium

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-01 15:47 -0700
Subjectwaves alfvenic, slow, fast, nedium
Message-ID<171609b7-d4c9-41a1-ac6b-8c12bf9cba6a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#591500
it appears to be an element of EinsteinmaniA,
the old idea that gravity is principle force, but
I think that Alfven put that away, in the 'nine-sixties

> Still haven't found a five year old to explain "invisible heavy stuff" to you yet?
> 
> >Describe your "dark matter". Can it fly?
> 
> It interacts gravitationally.  It does not interact electromagnetically.
> In other words, "invisible heavy stuff".  That's about all we know about it.

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#591136

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-29 09:06 -0500
Message-ID<nnfntu$1m7s$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#591075
On 7/28/2016 4:28 PM, john wrote:
> So
> Michael and Odd
> HOW does something GET rotating
> without applying torque?

John, I've already answered this with the example of cars driving past 
each other on the highway and the bungee cord. In this case, there's an 
onset of rotation with NO torque applied (angular momentum is conserved).

Now for galaxies, you can do the following swaps:
passing cars --> passing gas clouds or passing stars
bungee cord --> gravity

> AND
> how fast does something need to be
> rotating before you can precess it?
>

Speed has nothing to do with it. To get something precessing, you need a 
torque.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#590966

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-07-27 19:05 +0000
Message-ID<nnb0lu$7mr$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#590947
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>It's like Calculus:
>at the zero point of the rotation, it
>takes zero to include precession.
>Add incrementally.
>You don't rotate it right up first and then
>try to precess it! Of course that doesn't
>work

Gibberish.

It is rotating and precessing at the same time.  The rotation (angular
momentum) will continue in the same plane forever unless a torque is
applied.  (Conservation of angular momentum)

Conversely, if a torque is applied the rotation (angular momentum)
will change (either rotational speed or direction of rotational axis).

So tell us.  Where does this enormous torque come from????
Why do you believe angular momentum conservation is violated???
For that matter, what use is this precession, anyway? What does it
supposedly prove, what problem does it allegedly solve?  Seems rather
useless to me.

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#591058

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-28 14:22 -0500
Message-ID<nndm1v$11lc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#590947
On 7/27/2016 12:37 PM, john wrote:
> Michael
> It's like Calculus:
> at the zero point of the rotation, it
> takes zero to include precession.
> Add incrementally.
> You don't rotate it right up first and then
> try to precess it! Of course that doesn't
> work
>

John, you're talking out your ass.
Basic physics:
Rotation does not require torque.
Precession requires torque.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#590996 — dictions of pre-that-and-this

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-27 17:22 -0700
Subjectdictions of pre-that-and-this
Message-ID<3252126a-42f5-411d-9785-67f5fb5714ea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#590915
touche', whether the turtle is not lying, or if
hje does not or does define his precessionalities

> And the composition of the arms of 3 arm spiral galaxies is....?
> 
> Double flunk.
> 
> And your "no citation" means that deep down inside, you *know* it's
> all bullshit.  But your OCD forces you to spew this crap, again and
> again.
> 
> Of course, you will never address any of these issues. At most,
> you'll go silent for a while and then repeat your obsession with
> precessing spinny things.
> 
> Observation trumps theory, every single time.

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#591029

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-28 07:04 -0700
Message-ID<e394f9d7-da63-451d-b87b-c72a2dbe5826@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#590892
john
1. Galaxies are precessing. Not only are 
   they precessing, but they are doing so 
   TWICE as fast as they are rotating. 
    
    Just ONE of the observations that 
bear this out is here, in 
Wikipedia, at 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_rotation_curve 

"The rotation curves of spiral galaxies are asymmetric. The observational data from each side of a galaxy are generally averaged. Rotation curve asymmetry appears to be normal rather than exceptional.[2]" 

Precession of the disc is why this is. 

2 Galaxies are made from antimatter arms 
   and matter arms, as equally-proportioned 
   as possible. 
   No citation- oh yeah, me. 
------------

Things John and BJ have in common. (Partial list)

Both dumb as a stump

Both believe in ghosts

Both have 'experimented' with homosexuality

Both believe in esp

Both believe in some fucked up version of god 

Both hate America

Both believe in the 9/11 conspiracy 

Both hate science

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#591094

FromB Gates <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-07-28 19:39 -0400
Message-ID<579a97ac$0$62973$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#591029
On 07/28/2016 10:04 AM, HVAC wrote:
> john
> 1. Galaxies are precessing. Not only are
>    they precessing, but they are doing so
>    TWICE as fast as they are rotating.
>
>     Just ONE of the observations that
> bear this out is here, in
> Wikipedia, at
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_rotation_curve
>
> "The rotation curves of spiral galaxies are asymmetric. The observational data from each side of a galaxy are generally averaged. Rotation curve asymmetry appears to be normal rather than exceptional.[2]"
>
> Precession of the disc is why this is.
>
> 2 Galaxies are made from antimatter arms
>    and matter arms, as equally-proportioned
>    as possible.
>    No citation- oh yeah, me.
> ------------
>
> Things John and BJ have in common. (Partial list)
>
> Both dumb as a stump
>
> Both believe in ghosts
>
> Both have 'experimented' with homosexuality
>
> Both believe in esp
>
> Both believe in some fucked up version of god
>
> Both hate America
>
> Both believe in the 9/11 conspiracy
>
> Both hate science
>
Yet another example of HVAC's amazing knowledge of science and 
astronomy. Is there anything he does not know?

HVAC doesn't hate science. He doesn't know enough about it to decide one 
way or the other. He's a gay loser.

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#591111

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-28 19:12 -0700
Message-ID<96b4a93e-b907-4691-8ff7-99eebbbed07a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#591029
the veep at that time, September eleventh, '001,
stOOd down the mormative Air Force flights to deal with it.

what was that guy's name?...  oh, yeah;
trickieR Dick

> "The rotation curves of spiral galaxies are asymmetric. The observational data from each side of a galaxy are generally averaged. Rotation curve asymmetry appears to be normal rather than exceptional.[2]" 
> 
> Precession of the disc is why this is. 
> 
> 2 Galaxies are made from antimatter arms 
>    and matter arms, as equally-proportioned 
>    as possible. 
>    No citation- oh yeah, me. 

> Both believe in the 9/11 conspiracy 
> 
> Both hate science

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#591181

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-07-29 12:04 -0700
Message-ID<201e923c-c63b-47bd-9ce4-ca83decbfe2d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#590892
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
> 1. Galaxies are precessing. Not only are
>    they precessing, but they are doing so
>    TWICE as fast as they are rotating.
>    
>     Just ONE of the observations that
> bear this out is here, in
> Wikipedia, at 
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_rotation_curve
> 
> "The rotation curves of spiral galaxies are asymmetric. The observational data from each side of a galaxy are generally averaged. Rotation curve asymmetry appears to be normal rather than exceptional.[2]"
> 
> Precession of the disc is why this is.
> 
> 2 Galaxies are made from antimatter arms
>    and matter arms, as equally-proportioned
>    as possible.
>    No citation- oh yeah, me.


There are no galaxies within the atom.

Double-A

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