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| Started by | ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2016-07-26 06:05 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-08-04 12:10 -0700 |
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Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 06:05 -0700
Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-26 07:12 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 08:36 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 15:10 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 09:39 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 11:46 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-07-26 10:38 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 12:23 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-07-26 17:05 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 19:10 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 07:29 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 22:15 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 09:28 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-07-29 10:36 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 09:37 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-26 20:04 +0000
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 22:48 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-27 13:29 +0000
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 09:01 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-27 09:30 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-27 09:40 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-27 19:13 +0000
Young's two-pinhole moire' noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 17:25 -0700
just say, no, thank you noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 12:00 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 22:11 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-07-31 00:48 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-07-29 10:51 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-07-31 00:46 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 22:31 +0200
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-26 14:01 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 16:38 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 22:57 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-07-26 23:31 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 04:28 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 14:23 -0500
sumably, pre- noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 14:01 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? B Gates <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-07-28 19:35 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 18:43 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 09:29 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? brandonahenley9@gmail.com - 2016-07-29 12:04 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 12:29 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? B Gates <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-07-29 17:06 -0400
Light: a history noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 18:38 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 07:29 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? B Gates <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-07-29 17:03 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 16:06 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? B Gates <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-07-29 20:13 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 12:44 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-30 17:56 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 12:45 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-30 17:58 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? B Gates <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-07-29 17:10 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 16:15 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? B Gates <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-07-29 20:25 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 12:47 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-30 18:00 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:02 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-07-30 18:05 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-30 18:41 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-31 12:24 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:33 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-08-01 03:32 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:27 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-08-01 03:29 -0700
can you read that noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 12:12 -0700
Re: can you read that Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 08:29 -0400
Re: can you read that noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 15:22 -0700
t.h.a.t noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 12:33 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-07-31 01:00 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:26 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-07-31 17:12 -0400
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 17:09 -0500
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? poraty350@gmail.com - 2016-08-01 03:35 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 18:34 -0700
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 08:07 +0200
Re: Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 12:10 -0700
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| From | ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 06:05 -0700 |
| Subject | Can a single photon create an interference pattern in a double-slit experiment? |
| Message-ID | <08941ca9-6cb4-44a4-ab88-f7cf151ce6e1@googlegroups.com> |
I would have to surmise that the answer is Yes if the experiment in physical dimensions sufficiently small. Which answer makes me more comfortable with the quantum-theoretic view of reality.
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| From | jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 07:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2464d9e2-4482-497a-bd33-df176bc2662c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590803 |
Ken. You sort of have the right answer. But for the wrong reasons. Look at this link... https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=_KekfbrzO74 Photons are a fabrication devised by Elvis Einstein. They do not exist. Waves can interfere with each other and be recorded doing so at detectors. Only idiots assume this pattern has been created by particles of light. Being a mathematician and thus,.. an incompetent physicist, Albert needed attention and made up photons. Which of course attracted the attention of incompetent mathematicians the world over. Like Bore, and Heisenbored.
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| From | ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 08:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <aeb8300d-2787-4f95-b1b2-b54ce079bb30@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590805 |
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 10:12:06 AM UTC-4, jay moseley wrote: > Ken. You sort of have the right answer. But for the wrong reasons. Look at this link... > > https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=_KekfbrzO74 > > Photons are a fabrication devised by Elvis Einstein. They do not exist. > Waves can interfere with each other and be recorded doing so at detectors. > Only idiots assume this pattern has been created by particles of light. > Being a mathematician and thus,.. an incompetent physicist, Albert needed > attention and made up photons. Which of course attracted the attention > of incompetent mathematicians the world over. Like Bore, and Heisenbored. Jay. I think we share a similar discomfort with certain modern physical views, but I'm fully prepared to accept an explanation if there was one presented. Assuming I could understand it. For example, the Wikipedia article on "Double-Slit Experiment" seems a little skimpy on an actual physical explanation of what's going on. I think part of the problem is that quantum physics accepts the math and doesn't bother so much with the, well, the physics. They are buttressed in this attitude by the fact that the math actually describes everything, but doesn't really explain it. Unless you have that kind of intuition, which I don't. If you don't, sometimes it's hard to accept that it exists, since it's in somebody else's head and not really accessible. Unless they explain it.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 15:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nn8g48$1ho2$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #590811 |
On 7/26/2016 10:36 AM, ken quirici wrote: > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 10:12:06 AM UTC-4, jay moseley wrote: >> Ken. You sort of have the right answer. But for the wrong reasons. Look at this link... >> >> https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=_KekfbrzO74 >> >> Photons are a fabrication devised by Elvis Einstein. They do not exist. >> Waves can interfere with each other and be recorded doing so at detectors. >> Only idiots assume this pattern has been created by particles of light. >> Being a mathematician and thus,.. an incompetent physicist, Albert needed >> attention and made up photons. Which of course attracted the attention >> of incompetent mathematicians the world over. Like Bore, and Heisenbored. > > Jay. I think we share a similar discomfort with certain modern physical views, but I'm fully > prepared to accept an explanation if there was one presented. Assuming I could understand it. > > For example, the Wikipedia article on "Double-Slit Experiment" seems a little skimpy on an > actual physical explanation of what's going on. > > I think part of the problem is that quantum physics accepts the math and doesn't bother so much > with the, well, the physics. They are buttressed in this attitude by the fact that the math > actually describes everything, but doesn't really explain it. Unless you have that kind of > intuition, which I don't. If you don't, sometimes it's hard to accept that it exists, since it's > in somebody else's head and not really accessible. Unless they explain it. > I think you'll find that free web pages like Wikipedia are not written to explain concepts. They are often too dense and terse to do that well, and so you are likely to get frustrated in using those kinds of resources. Worse, though, would be thinking that if the explanation you're looking for isn't in the free web resources you're perusing, then the explanation isn't available at all. This leads to the mistaken view you describe above, that physicists rely on math solely without having a conceptual basis. I could explain this, but I honestly think you'll do better by reading a couple of thin books by Feynman: 1) The Character of Physical Law, and 2) QED. It's not hard to understand, but it takes some real estate to explain the concepts plainly. Feynman, by the way, once famously said that "Nobody really understands quantum mechanics." However, this is a bit of a self-deprecating comment, because he's done more to make quantum mechanics intuitively understandable than most, as you'll see in those books. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 09:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <da67b799-fb8e-4730-9858-9ac52197c280@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590805 |
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:12:06 PM UTC+3, jay moseley wrote: > Ken. You sort of have the right answer. But for the wrong reasons. Look at this link... > > https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=_KekfbrzO74 > > Photons are a fabrication devised by Elvis Einstein. They do not exist. > Waves can interfere with each other and be recorded doing so at detectors. > Only idiots assume this pattern has been created by particles of light. > Being a mathematician and thus,.. an incompetent physicist, Albert needed > attention and made up photons. Which of course attracted the attention > of incompetent mathematicians the world over. Like Bore, and Heisenbored. ==================== and now some news even for you : E= hf IS NOT THE RIGHT FORMULA FOR THE REAL SINGLE PHOTON!! IT IS THE FORMULA FOR A HUGE BUNDLE OF SIMGLE PHOTONS THE REAL ENERGY OF THE SINGLE PHOTON IS E min = h f times n while 0> n <<<< 1.0000 old copyright by Y.Porat 2 the mass (yes mass yrs the only mass of the single photon is about exp - 90 Kilogram !!!! ----- no one will ever be able (even ) just to *** detect it** !!! old Copyright 3 if you don't understand it just ask !! ======================== Eng Yehiel Porat TIA Y.Porat ==================================
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| From | Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 11:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <wfKdncyuqsxYGArKnZ2dnUU7-TednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #590803 |
On 26/07/2016 9:05 AM, ken quirici wrote: > I would have to surmise that the answer is Yes if the experiment in physical dimensions sufficiently small. Which answer makes me more comfortable with the quantum-theoretic view of reality. Yup, that's what the results of the entire double-slit experiment are about. Yousuf Khan
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| From | pcardinale@volcanomail.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 10:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8b9099c3-9718-4f94-928f-788d1b1c62d1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590803 |
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-7, ken quirici wrote: > I would have to surmise that the answer is Yes if the experiment in physical dimensions sufficiently small. Which answer makes me more comfortable with the quantum-theoretic view of reality. No. A single photon can be detected in only one place. An interference pattern occupies a region of space, and can only be created with a large number of photons. Note however that an interference pattern can be created by sending photons through a double slit one at a time.
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| From | ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 12:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ba9d8829-5b8e-4009-be09-0bc24fffdd9e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590823 |
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:38:40 PM UTC-4, pcard...@volcanomail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-7, ken quirici wrote: > > I would have to surmise that the answer is Yes if the experiment in physical dimensions sufficiently small. Which answer makes me more comfortable with the quantum-theoretic view of reality. > > No. A single photon can be detected in only one place. An interference pattern occupies a region of space, and can only be created with a large number of photons. Note however that an interference pattern can be created by sending photons through a double slit one at a time. Little steps. The photon is also a wave. Imagine we have a 2-dimensional graph of the photon, where the x-axis represents time. Then the photon as wave will appear like a sine wave. What is the y-axis measuring?
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| From | pcardinale@volcanomail.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 17:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <27acb422-959b-4c52-9a02-30ab4096c8cf@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590838 |
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:23:13 PM UTC-7, ken quirici wrote: > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:38:40 PM UTC-4, pcard...@volcanomail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-7, ken quirici wrote: > > > I would have to surmise that the answer is Yes if the experiment in physical dimensions sufficiently small. Which answer makes me more comfortable with the quantum-theoretic view of reality. > > > > No. A single photon can be detected in only one place. An interference pattern occupies a region of space, and can only be created with a large number of photons. Note however that an interference pattern can be created by sending photons through a double slit one at a time. > > Little steps. The photon is also a wave. Imagine we have a 2-dimensional graph of the photon, where the x-axis represents time. Then the photon as wave will appear like a sine wave. What is the y-axis measuring? A photon never "will appear like a sine wave". The wave function of a quantum object does not represent oscillation of a physical quantity.
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| From | ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 19:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3712c7c0-de0f-4838-b885-9eea83cc4989@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590876 |
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:05:33 PM UTC-4, pcard...@volcanomail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:23:13 PM UTC-7, ken quirici wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:38:40 PM UTC-4, pcard...@volcanomail.com wrote: > > > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-7, ken quirici wrote: > > > > I would have to surmise that the answer is Yes if the experiment in physical dimensions sufficiently small. Which answer makes me more comfortable with the quantum-theoretic view of reality. > > > > > > No. A single photon can be detected in only one place. An interference pattern occupies a region of space, and can only be created with a large number of photons. Note however that an interference pattern can be created by sending photons through a double slit one at a time. > > > > Little steps. The photon is also a wave. Imagine we have a 2-dimensional graph of the photon, where the x-axis represents time. Then the photon as wave will appear like a sine wave. What is the y-axis measuring? > > A photon never "will appear like a sine wave". The wave function of a quantum object does not represent oscillation of a physical quantity. Past two posts are nicely telling me what the waviness of a photon isn't, but nobody is telling me what it is. Is the waviness simply the quantum ambiguity in the position, which suggests a kind of probabilistic waviness? Although a wave has a regularity - periodicity - that I don't get from quantum probabilities.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-27 07:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nna9g3$ng$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #590882 |
On 7/26/2016 9:10 PM, ken quirici wrote: > Past two posts are nicely telling me what the waviness of a photon isn't, but nobody is telling me what it is. > > Is the waviness simply the quantum ambiguity in the position, which suggests a kind of probabilistic waviness? > Although a wave has a regularity - periodicity - that I don't get from quantum probabilities. Actually you do. It is called a wavefunction for a reason. The quantum field itself has a periodicity, and that's expressed in a property called phase. It's a mistake to blanket quantum mechanics as just being about fuzziness and probability. The eigenvalues of a quantum state are as rigid as anything in classical physics. Read the Feynman books I recommended. Really. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-27 22:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <dc656c1e-eaa2-43db-88c1-1b6ed69da978@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590909 |
בתאריך יום רביעי, 27 ביולי 2016 בשעה 15:29:59 UTC+3, מאת Odd Bodkin: > On 7/26/2016 9:10 PM, ken quirici wrote: > > Past two posts are nicely telling me what the waviness of a photon isn't, but nobody is telling me what it is. > > > > Is the waviness simply the quantum ambiguity in the position, which suggests a kind of probabilistic waviness? > > Although a wave has a regularity - periodicity - that I don't get from quantum probabilities. > > Actually you do. It is called a wavefunction for a reason. The quantum > field itself has a periodicity, and that's expressed in a property > called phase. > > It's a mistake to blanket quantum mechanics as just being about > fuzziness and probability. The eigenvalues of a quantum state are as > rigid as anything in classical physics. > > Read the Feynman books I recommended. Really. > > > > -- > Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables =========================== shameless criminal against mankind see my new post from 28 July (today with questions t Moroney and pigs like you Y.Porat =================================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-28 09:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nnd4pr$666$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #591012 |
On 7/28/2016 12:15 AM, poraty350@gmail.com wrote: > בתאריך יום רביעי, 27 ביולי 2016 בשעה 15:29:59 UTC+3, מאת Odd Bodkin: >> On 7/26/2016 9:10 PM, ken quirici wrote: >>> Past two posts are nicely telling me what the waviness of a photon isn't, but nobody is telling me what it is. >>> >>> Is the waviness simply the quantum ambiguity in the position, which suggests a kind of probabilistic waviness? >>> Although a wave has a regularity - periodicity - that I don't get from quantum probabilities. >> >> Actually you do. It is called a wavefunction for a reason. The quantum >> field itself has a periodicity, and that's expressed in a property >> called phase. >> >> It's a mistake to blanket quantum mechanics as just being about >> fuzziness and probability. The eigenvalues of a quantum state are as >> rigid as anything in classical physics. >> >> Read the Feynman books I recommended. Really. >> >> >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > =========================== > shameless criminal against mankind > see my new post from 28 July (today > with questions t Moroney > and pigs like you > Y.Porat > ================================= > The only reason I see this post is that your username got changed, and so I have to now do a click to add this new username to my killfile, so that I can go back to having my feed scrubbed clean of your posts. I don't know if you've been trying to reply to my posts in the past. If you have, please understand that you are talking at a closed, locked, noise-proofed door. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-29 10:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e029ca91-a065-4df9-b99e-da67d3e25e3d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #591034 |
בתאריך יום חמישי, 28 ביולי 2016 בשעה 17:28:15 UTC+3, מאת Odd Bodkin: > On 7/28/2016 12:15 AM, poraty350@gmail.com wrote: > > בתאריך יום רביעי, 27 ביולי 2016 בשעה 15:29:59 UTC+3, מאת Odd Bodkin: > >> On 7/26/2016 9:10 PM, ken quirici wrote: > >>> Past two posts are nicely telling me what the waviness of a photon isn't, but nobody is telling me what it is. > >>> > >>> Is the waviness simply the quantum ambiguity in the position, which suggests a kind of probabilistic waviness? > >>> Although a wave has a regularity - periodicity - that I don't get from quantum probabilities. > >> > >> Actually you do. It is called a wavefunction for a reason. The quantum > >> field itself has a periodicity, and that's expressed in a property > >> called phase. > >> > >> It's a mistake to blanket quantum mechanics as just being about > >> fuzziness and probability. The eigenvalues of a quantum state are as > >> rigid as anything in classical physics. > >> > >> Read the Feynman books I recommended. Really. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > =========================== > > shameless criminal against mankind > > see my new post from 28 July (today > > with questions t Moroney > > and pigs like you > > Y.Porat > > ================================= > > > > The only reason I see this post is that your username got changed, and > so I have to now do a click to add this new username to my killfile, so > that I can go back to having my feed scrubbed clean of your posts. > > I don't know if you've been trying to reply to my posts in the past. If > you have, please understand that you are talking at a closed, locked, > noise-proofed door. > > -- > Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables ========================= I have no intension to discuss with Paul Draper the anonymous crook criminal by intention is that OTHERES WILL KNOW WHO IS THAT*** ANONYMOUS** CRIMINAL AGAINST MANKIND !! AND THIEF =========================== Y . PORAT ==================
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-27 09:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69c66a47-9c63-4f6c-b4de-2e2f4d9366a9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590882 |
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 7:10:57 PM UTC-7, ken quirici wrote: > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:05:33 PM UTC-4, pcard...@volcanomail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:23:13 PM UTC-7, ken quirici wrote: > > > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 1:38:40 PM UTC-4, pcard...@volcanomail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-7, ken quirici wrote: > > > > > I would have to surmise that the answer is Yes if the experiment in physical dimensions sufficiently small. Which answer makes me more comfortable with the quantum-theoretic view of reality. > > > > > > > > No. A single photon can be detected in only one place. An interference pattern occupies a region of space, and can only be created with a large number of photons. Note however that an interference pattern can be created by sending photons through a double slit one at a time. > > > > > > Little steps. The photon is also a wave. Imagine we have a 2-dimensional graph of the photon, where the x-axis represents time. Then the photon as wave will appear like a sine wave. What is the y-axis measuring? > > > > A photon never "will appear like a sine wave". The wave function of a quantum object does not represent oscillation of a physical quantity. > > Past two posts are nicely telling me what the waviness of a photon isn't, but nobody is telling me what it is. > > Is the waviness simply the quantum ambiguity in the position, which suggests a kind of probabilistic waviness? Although a wave has a regularity - periodicity - that I don't get from quantum probabilities. Reality is photons,electrons are coupled together so close together they can appear as one. The twin eperiment is proving this.These twins can move apart,and still be in contact.This was also proven,and helps prove my twin particle theory. This goes well with two other theories of mine.I love it when things start to fit well.It opens up a much brighter light at the end of a very long tunnel TreBert
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 20:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nn8fo6$230$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #590823 |
pcardinale@volcanomail.com writes: >On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-7, ken quirici wrote: >> I would have to surmise that the answer is Yes if the experiment in >>physical dimensions sufficiently small. Which answer makes me more >>comfortable with the quantum-theoretic view of reality. >No. A single photon can be detected in only one place. An interference >pattern occupies a region of space, and can only be created with a large >number of photons. Note however that an interference pattern can be created >by sending photons through a double slit one at a time. A single photon will appear in only one place at the detector. Where it appears will be somewhat random. I say "somewhat" in that it is likely to appear where the interference pattern has a bright spot and is unlikely to appear where the interference pattern has a dark spot. The interference pattern is actually the sum result of many, many photons exhibiting this behavior. It's like radioactive material. You have no idea when a particular atom will decay, but a macroscopic chunk of the stuff will have a very predictible half-life.
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| From | "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-26 22:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c7f13d0d-2211-4e1c-9c00-9c5fa6d6f346@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590823 |
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:38:40 PM UTC+3, pcard...@volcanomail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-7, ken quirici wrote: > > I would have to surmise that the answer is Yes if the experiment in physical dimensions sufficiently small. Which answer makes me more comfortable with the quantum-theoretic view of reality. > > No. A single photon can be detected in only one place. ====================== you didn t understated what I claimed and proved so again NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE EVN TO DERECT A SINGLE PHOTON AND I EXCPLAINED ABOVE WHY !!! if you have questions about it just ask it is not a shame to ask especially in physics science especially while the current 'understanding is weird ATB Y.Porat ============================ An interference pattern occupies a region of space, and can only be created with a large number of photons. Note however that an interference pattern can be created by sending photons through a double slit one at a time.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-07-27 13:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nnad02$79c$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #590894 |
"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> writes: >you didn t understated what I claimed and proved >so again >NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE >EVN TO DERECT A SINGLE PHOTON >AND I EXCPLAINED ABOVE WHY !!! Single photons are detected all the time.
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| From | poraty350@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-27 09:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2b7e7190-bf25-470a-8d3d-78d45261e103@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590914 |
בתאריך יום רביעי, 27 ביולי 2016 בשעה 16:30:34 UTC+3, מאת Michael Moroney: > "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> writes: > > >you didn t understated what I claimed and proved > >so again > >NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE > >EVN TO DERECT A SINGLE PHOTON > >AND I EXCPLAINED ABOVE WHY !!! > > Single photons are detected all the time. ================================== lire idiot I am proving to you that no one will ever detect the real single photon and a cock like you is blowing wind in th4air as good as to say our earth is flat h f is one second defined GOT IT BLOCKHEAD PARROT crock you are a criminal against mankind as well as the other gangster criminal Paul Draper (P D you cant cheat every body forever ======================================= Y.Porat ========================
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| From | ken quirici <kquirici@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-27 09:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1cf8ae62-46a7-40c6-af14-1268b6082373@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #590921 |
Thanks Odd. My library had 'QED' and I got the audiobook for the lectures 'The Character of Physical Law' from Itunes. Also library had his lectures on Physics which I vaguely remember liking. He's meant to be good at explaining difficult concepts. Regards Ken
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