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Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire!

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First post2016-07-02 13:59 -0700
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  Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-02 13:59 -0700
    Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 05:05 -0700
      Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 06:42 -0700
        Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 11:57 -0700
          Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 15:56 -0700
            Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-05 01:50 +0000
              Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 06:12 -0700
                Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-05 13:49 +0000
                  Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 08:52 -0500
    DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-07-03 09:05 -0700
      DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 13:48 -0700
        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-03 14:07 -0700
          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 14:36 -0700
            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 20:16 -0700
              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 16:51 -0500
                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-07 12:47 -0700
                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 17:29 -0700
                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 20:13 -0700
                    Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 04:12 +0000
                      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 06:59 -0700
                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 09:50 -0500
                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 14:50 +0000
                          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 10:02 -0500
                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 10:35 -0700
                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 13:13 -0500
                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 11:57 -0700
                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 14:28 -0500
                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 20:27 +0000
                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 15:33 -0500
                                    Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 15:42 -0500
                                      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 16:27 -0700
                                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 08:17 -0500
                                          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 07:22 -0700
                                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 10:35 -0700
                                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 16:49 -0700
                                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 16:52 -0700
                                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 04:41 -0700
                                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 04:55 -0700
                                                    Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:22 -0700
                                                      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 12:39 -0700
                                                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 08:30 -0500
                                                          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 07:02 -0700
                                                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 09:17 -0500
                                                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 07:44 -0700
                                                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 10:03 -0500
                                                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 10:25 -0700
                                                                    Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 12:31 -0500
                                                                      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 10:56 -0700
                                                                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 11:40 -0700
                                                                          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 13:48 -0500
                                                                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 13:55 -0700
                                                                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 16:36 -0500
                                                                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 17:12 -0700
                                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-10 17:58 +0000
                                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 08:24 -0500
                                              Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:09 -0700
                                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 07:48 -0700
                                                  Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:00 -0500
                                                    Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 09:12 -0700
                                                      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:29 -0500
                                                        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:21 -0700
                                                          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:51 -0500
                                                Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:16 -0500
                            Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-08 20:39 +0000
        Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-04 03:42 +0000
          Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-04 17:50 +0000
          Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 11:05 -0700
            Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 13:35 -0500
          Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 06:48 -0700
          Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-07 20:23 -0500
      Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire" Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-03 14:06 -0700
    Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 16:27 -0700
      Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-07-08 21:41 -0700
      Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-09 12:52 -0700
        Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-09 21:19 +0000
      Re: Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire! ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-10 13:14 -0500

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#588342 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 09:50 -0500
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nloek5$1fjo$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#588336
On 7/8/2016 8:59 AM, john wrote:
> With the world crumbling
> around his ears, poisoned species
> giving up the ghost on all sides,
> and DISABLED a "special" word,
> Michael says, "It's all good! Science rules!"
>

Or maybe that you shouldn't be blaming science for the world's ills.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#588343 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-07-08 14:50 +0000
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nloejg$lat$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#588336
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>With the world crumbling
>around his ears, poisoned species
>giving up the ghost on all sides,
>and DISABLED a "special" word,
>Michael says, "It's all good! Science rules!"

Is that why you hate science?  Because it can be misused to poison species?

Is a hammer evil because in addition to building houses, it can be used to
smash someone's skull in?

Are you a Luddite?

Meanwhile, because of science, life expectancy is no longer 40 years and
people don't have to work all day long in farm fields every day, just to
grow enough food to eat.

I would love to learn whatever Juno can learn about Jupiter.
And Juno won't poison any species, either.

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#588344 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 10:02 -0500
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nlofac$1gqr$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#588343
On 7/8/2016 9:50 AM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Is that why you hate science?  Because it can be misused to poison species?
>
> Is a hammer evil because in addition to building houses, it can be used to
> smash someone's skull in?
>
> Are you a Luddite?

No, he's not a Luddite.

He's using a computer, but it's Big Computer that is responsible for 
viruses and loss of privacy.

He drives a car, but it's Big Oil that's responsible for warfare and 
depletion of natural resources.

He eats non-Canadian fruits, but it's Big Agro that is responsible for 
GMO and additives that keep the fruit fresh on its way to him.

No, he's a big-time technology consumer, but it's not him that is 
responsible for the problems, is it, John?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#588366 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 10:35 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<767832e4-5048-43e7-a301-969aa95911fb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588344
Odd's world is perfect.
Science is a closed book.
Medicine is treating everyone and
those it can't, it's treating them too.

There are no problems in Odd's world-
why would you complain 
about road kill? You drive.
Why complain about ruined water
sheds? You drive.
Why complain about radioactive seawater?
You need heat.
Why complain about dying sealife? You need
plastics.
No troubles in Odd's world.
It's those COMPLAINERS

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#588377 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 13:13 -0500
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nloqg8$2qc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#588366
On 7/8/2016 12:35 PM, john wrote:
> Odd's world is perfect.
> Science is a closed book.
> Medicine is treating everyone and
> those it can't, it's treating them too.
>
> There are no problems in Odd's world-
> why would you complain
> about road kill? You drive.
> Why complain about ruined water
> sheds? You drive.
> Why complain about radioactive seawater?
> You need heat.
> Why complain about dying sealife? You need
> plastics.
> No troubles in Odd's world.
> It's those COMPLAINERS
>

John, you have COMPLETELY misrepresented what I think.
To help you understand, I will contrast your extreme position with what 
I REALLY think.

You believe the world is fucked up and doomed on its present course, and 
you believe science is to blame for that. You believe that science has a 
wrong understanding of just about everything, and this scientific 
misunderstanding is WHY there are problems, and that if science 
understood things correctly there would be no problems in the world.

I believe that the world is a mixture of blessings and problems. I 
believe that a great number of the blessings have come from science, 
such as good treatments for cancer and eradication of diseases like 
smallpox and a really solid understanding of electromagnetism so that we 
can do really amazing things with it. I believe that the abuse of 
technology has led to many problems, such as weapons of insane power and 
power grabs over valuable resources like oil and antibiotic-resistant 
bacteria. I believe further that consumers are largely responsible for 
many of the ills of the world, such as overfishing (to satisfy a 
Nebraskan's yen for king crab legs) and chemical waste (to make paint 
and cleaners and plastics that people buy at big box stores) and 
contamination of food (so that bananas from Ecuador will arrive in your 
North American grocery store and so that Chicken McNuggets will be 
available in Boston) and deforestation (so that a family of 3 can live 
in a five-bedroom, 4000 sq ft house) and oil depletion (so that you can 
drive three blocks to the convenience store because it's "hot"). The 
solution to these problems, I believe, is in a combination of better 
technology (not science, technology) and in a change in consumer habits. 
I do NOT believe there are no problems in the world, but I do not 
believe that fingers should be pointed at science for that. I believe 
that people who do not look at THEMSELVES to see what they should do 
differently to help solve those problems, and instead spend all their 
time pointing at OTHERS, are idiots.

I believe that science is a living and changing field, with many open 
questions and things we clearly do not know. I also believe there is a 
lot we DO know and where the questions are pretty much settled. Knowing 
the difference is the art of being a scientist. I believe that people 
who object to a scientific concept either because they don't understand 
it or because it doesn't "feel right" according to their intuition, are 
catering to their own ignorance rather than fixing the ignorance. I do 
NOT believe that science is a closed subject, with all answers in hand. 
But on the other hand, I think that people who say it's ALL 
FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG and that we understand nothing correctly might as 
well also be saying that the earth is not really round and that 2+3 does 
not really equal five. I believe such people who make those kinds of 
pronouncements without ever READING about the subject to learn what is 
known and what remains to be known, are idiots.

You, John, are an extremist and an idiot.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#588381 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 11:57 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<d7eb069a-c1bc-494d-b819-395fed133268@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588377
Odd, if I am an extremist
and an idiot,
what are you, who believes everything 
that the government says?
Area 51 has been claimed to
be covering up aliens and alien
Science since the 40s: when one of
their own head scientists- on his
death bed- confirms that he has been
part of this lie-telling, you say
that HE is lying.

Odd- you are a liar and an enemy of
the Truth. If you believe in God, start
being straight, if you don't, shut up.

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#588383 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 14:28 -0500
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nlousi$93h$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#588381
On 7/8/2016 1:57 PM, john wrote:
> Odd, if I am an extremist
> and an idiot,
> what are you, who believes everything
> that the government says?

I DON'T believe everything the government says, another 
misrepresentation of what I believe, John. But on the other hand, I 
don't DISBELIEVE EVERYTHING the government says, like some people.

> Area 51 has been claimed to
> be covering up aliens and alien
> Science since the 40s: when one of
> their own head scientists- on his
> death bed- confirms that he has been
> part of this lie-telling, you say
> that HE is lying.

Yes, demonstrably so. He holds up a picture KNOWN to be a toy and claims 
its a picture of a live alien. Caught red-handed in the lie, he was. And 
yet, you choose to believe he was telling the truth, that the government 
is lying, and that even those who are NOT government people who caught 
him lying are lying too. What does this tell you?

>
> Odd- you are a liar and an enemy of
> the Truth. If you believe in God, start
> being straight, if you don't, shut up.
>

John, you extremist positions aren't going to make anyone shut up. All 
that's going to happen is that people are going to call you out for 
being a little nuts and also for misplacing blame when you should be 
looking at yourself a little more.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#588392 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-07-08 20:27 +0000
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nlp2bc$fvp$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#588381
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd, if I am an extremist
>and an idiot,

Until you learn the difference between science, proper use of that science
(technology) and misuse/abuse of that technology, you will be an idiot
and extremist. You also haven't answered about the evilness of hammers since
the same hammer can build homes for the homeless and smash in skulls of
widows and orphans.

>what are you, who believes everything 
>that the government says?

Why do you believe he believes them? I certainly don't.

>Area 51 has been claimed to
>be covering up aliens and alien
>Science since the 40s: when one of
>their own head scientists- on his
>death bed- confirms that he has been
>part of this lie-telling, you say
>that HE is lying.

In addition to being an extremist idiot, you are also easily fooled.
(did you get that nickel reactor yet? The one that will save the
world?)

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#588394 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 15:33 -0500
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nlp2nd$ele$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#588381
On 7/8/2016 1:57 PM, john wrote:
> Odd- you are a liar and an enemy of
> the Truth. If you believe in God, start
> being straight, if you don't, shut up.

I notice you get hostile when I point out that you, a consumer, are to 
blame for the ills of the world that you moan about.

You know what a former coffee grower and now cocaine producer in 
Colombia said to an American news crew that came to visit him? "If 
Americans didn't buy cocaine, I wouldn't have to grow cocaine. But I 
make so much more money to feed my family because Americans want cocaine 
more than they want coffee."

Now, apply that same thought to gasoline, air conditioning, 
antidepressant drugs, fish, processed foods, broadband Wifi, handheld 
computers/phones, and guns. What do you get, John?
gasoline --> Middle East conflict and ISIS
air conditioning --> nuclear power plant waste
antidepressant drugs --> pharmaceutical price gouging
fish --> overfishing and overnight jet-fuel-consuming flights
processed foods --> freshness additives
broadband Wifi --> cyberassaults and identity theft
smartphones --> rare earth metal monopolies in China
guns --> police shootings and mass murderers

Want to get rid of those problems? Simple. Stop consuming so fucking 
much of what you don't need. And don't bother calling me a liar, it 
means nothing to me coming from you.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#588397 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 15:42 -0500
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nlp380$fbq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#588394
On 7/8/2016 3:33 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/8/2016 1:57 PM, john wrote:
>> Odd- you are a liar and an enemy of
>> the Truth. If you believe in God, start
>> being straight, if you don't, shut up.
>
> I notice you get hostile when I point out that you, a consumer, are to
> blame for the ills of the world that you moan about.
>
> You know what a former coffee grower and now cocaine producer in
> Colombia said to an American news crew that came to visit him? "If
> Americans didn't buy cocaine, I wouldn't have to grow cocaine. But I
> make so much more money to feed my family because Americans want cocaine
> more than they want coffee."
>
> Now, apply that same thought to gasoline, air conditioning,
> antidepressant drugs, fish, processed foods, broadband Wifi, handheld
> computers/phones, and guns. What do you get, John?
> gasoline --> Middle East conflict and ISIS
> air conditioning --> nuclear power plant waste
> antidepressant drugs --> pharmaceutical price gouging
> fish --> overfishing and overnight jet-fuel-consuming flights
> processed foods --> freshness additives
> broadband Wifi --> cyberassaults and identity theft
> smartphones --> rare earth metal monopolies in China
> guns --> police shootings and mass murderers
>
> Want to get rid of those problems? Simple. Stop consuming so fucking
> much of what you don't need. And don't bother calling me a liar, it
> means nothing to me coming from you.
>

I'm just going to cite one example close to your heart. You post from 
your cellphone, I believe. This requires long-life batteries, twenty 
times the charging power of an old-school flip phone, wifi or cellular 
broadband which has splattered cell phone towers even in national parks, 
and a device that is going to be obsolete in two years and so you're 
going to have to put to waste all those toxic metals to acquire another 
one with more toxic metal internals, not to mention a billion dollar 
chip fab plant that consumes massive amounts of water and other toxic 
solvents. And with your favorite device, you are steadfastly complaining 
about the ills that the use of your cellphone is responsible for. 
Hypocrite much?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#588422 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 16:27 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<c7127a45-25cd-4e9f-97e1-694498217de4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588397
Odd
Hey, it wasn't your logic that got me
annoyed- you don't have any,
and have said that you don't find it
useful in today's science- it was
your name-calling and your smug
know it all attitude.
But one thing- we all know that,
and that you won't change, so it's just
water off a duck.
Have you decided if there is
an underlying space medium, yet?
What's waving, you schizoid?
:)

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#588574 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-10 08:17 -0500
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<nlthtr$2u6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#588422
On 7/8/2016 6:27 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> Hey, it wasn't your logic that got me
> annoyed- you don't have any,
> and have said that you don't find it
> useful in today's science- it was
> your name-calling and your smug
> know it all attitude.
> But one thing- we all know that,
> and that you won't change, so it's just
> water off a duck.
> Have you decided if there is
> an underlying space medium, yet?
> What's waving, you schizoid?
> :)
>

1. You confuse your common sense with logic. Not at all the same.
2. If you say something stupid, John, and completely unsupported by 
facts, then don't be surprised when people come back with facts and 
name-calling -- something you call an "attitude". It's something you 
earn all by yourself.
3. The question about what's waving has already been answered for you. 
Several times. What have you done with the answer?


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#588581 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-10 07:22 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<0863c753-64b3-4131-ad4b-96ef32590e61@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588574
Odd said
"You confuse your common sense with logic. Not at all the same. "
So which is it that you don't 
use- common sense or logic?

Boyd Bushman NEVER said that he saw
an alien- he said that 
he was given a picture of them. 
So- was it your "logic", or your "common sense",
that leads you to discount his entire
story because that picture was of
a toy?
LOTS of others have reported seeing these
beings- is it your "logic" or your "common sense"
that says they're ALL LIARS?

It's funny how a liar ALWAYS suspects others
of the same

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#588599 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-10 10:35 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<745f2490-a262-4ff6-a328-d9602600310c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588581
John
Boyd Bushman NEVER said that he saw 
an alien- he said that 
he was given a picture of them. 
So- was it your "logic", or your "common sense", 
that leads you to discount his entire 
story because that picture was of 
a toy? 
LOTS of others have reported seeing these 
beings- is it your "logic" or your "common sense" 
that says they're ALL LIARS? 
----------

Boy Bushman was a senile old fool. He was basically on a level with Bert. At the end he was an incontinent, drooling retard who claims to have seen an alien.

This is your source.

Gtfo

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#588666 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-10 16:49 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<c71e2a16-1755-478b-a563-7c0aa30effe5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588599
HVAC
"Boy Bushman was a senile old fool. He was basically on a level with Bert. At the end he was an incontinent, drooling retard who claims to have seen an alien. "
No, he specifically said that all he
saw was pictures.
If you're not drooling and shitting yourself
"at the end",   HVAC, then
probably someone saw fit to hasten it.
Not surprisingly.

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#588668 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-10 16:52 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<e6c69553-4441-4d18-8b89-5ca2262017f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588599
Ha ha. HVAC is just as angry at
Bushman as he is at Snowden,
but he can't wish he were dead
BECAUSE HE ALREADY IS!!
Traitors to the traitors' cause, hey?
No honor among thieves?
Try truth

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#588747 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-11 04:41 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<304ed2c6-464c-419d-b12c-0edcff631a07@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588668
john
Ha ha. HVAC is just as angry at 
Bushman as he is at Snowden, 
but he can't wish he were dead 
BECAUSE HE ALREADY IS!! 
Traitors to the traitors' cause, hey? 
No honor among thieves? 
Try truth 
-----------

You're talking about Boy Bushmen not telling the truth, right?

But I'm not calling him out for being a liar. He was an age addled, blubbering Alzheimer's victim with a pile of stinking shit in his britches. That would be like blaming a retard for being retarded.

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#588748 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-11 04:55 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<b3ee1883-b5e9-4104-8423-abe42a0c2b5c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588747
HVAC
I specialized in Alzies.
Their problem is that they
can no longer remember the LIES.

He could no longer remember 
what he wasn't supposed to know.

You'll be like that, HVAC.

Do you know anything that 
they'd rather kill you than have
you blurting it out?

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#588801 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-11 12:22 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<d6c7dfef-29fd-4ad0-b8d5-7de8c8ce8de8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588748
john
HVAC 
I specialized in Alzies. 
Their problem is that they 
can no longer remember the LIES. 

He could no longer remember 
what he wasn't supposed to know. 

You'll be like that, HVAC. 

Do you know anything that 
they'd rather kill you than have 
you blurting it out? 
---------

John I'm retired 

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#588807 — Re: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-11 12:39 -0700
SubjectRe: DOUBLE ASSHOLE TALKS ABOUT "Juno Spacecraft Faces Baptism by Fire"
Message-ID<e5d23055-7cf9-4734-bedb-0cc283ab08f1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588801
Odd
YOU, by the way, are the one shooting 
all the messengers.
Pons. Bushman. Lindauer. ALL of them
that are blowing whistles are
lying hoaxers (the bastards).

I don't see you changing your mind
even if Juno sees a big bad old rock
crust on Jupiter.

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