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Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed!

Started byYousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
First post2016-06-16 15:43 -0400
Last post2016-06-18 23:37 +0000
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  Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-16 15:43 -0400
    Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! willner@cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) - 2016-06-17 21:22 +0000
      Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-18 00:01 +0200
        Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 09:05 -0700
        Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-06-18 14:49 +0100
          Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 07:47 +0200
      Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-17 20:45 -0400
        Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-18 05:12 +0200
          Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 04:59 +0000
        Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! willner@cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) - 2016-06-30 18:40 +0000
    Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-06-17 23:10 -0700
      Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 06:44 -0700
        Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 15:59 +0200
        Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 15:05 +0000
          Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 08:46 -0700
            Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 16:04 +0000
              Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 12:09 -0700
        Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 08:44 -0700
          Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 08:50 -0700
          Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 15:52 +0000
            Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 09:01 -0700
              Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 16:06 +0000
                Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 09:17 -0700
                  Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 19:20 +0000
                    Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 12:27 -0700
                      Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 19:38 +0000
                        Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 15:58 -0700
                          Re: Second Gravitational Wave event confirmed! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 23:37 +0000

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#585459

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-18 09:01 -0700
Message-ID<ea6d6ea1-8d90-49d4-b21d-57166d1017a6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585457
Michael:
Why would 2 BHs lose mass when
interacting gravitationally,
but,
for example,
the Earth and the Moon never do?

Don't answer, HVAC, I know YOU got
nothing. Give Michael a try.

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#585462

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-06-18 16:06 +0000
Message-ID<nk3rit$8b3$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#585459
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael:
>Why would 2 BHs lose mass when
>interacting gravitationally,
>but,
>for example,
>the Earth and the Moon never do?

>Don't answer, HVAC, I know YOU got
>nothing. Give Michael a try.

I just answered (earth-sun) a second ago.

Don't forget to complete your homework this time!

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#585467

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-18 09:17 -0700
Message-ID<2115b41c-928d-4a43-8991-87fc3d7af549@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585462
Michael
Earth-moon is getting further apart.
Did you figure in the
Interplanetary Magnetic Field?
Pressure from that pushes Sun-Earth
apart. You probably ignore that.

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#585513

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-06-18 19:20 +0000
Message-ID<nk46u4$1b7$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#585467
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>Earth-moon is getting further apart.

Yup.  The gravitational radiation effect is so small that other effects,
such as tides on earth causing the moon to get further from Earth,
totally dominate.

>Did you figure in the
>Interplanetary Magnetic Field?
>Pressure from that pushes Sun-Earth
>apart. You probably ignore that.

Once again, I was talking only about the gravitational wave's 
contribution.  Very small compared to everything else!

Why are you flapping your lips here? You have homework to do! Where is
your progress in determining how much distance the earth loses per
orbit due to gravitational radiation?  Get to work and crunch those
numbers!!  I already gave you too much of a clue by telling you the effect
is tiny!!

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#585515

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-18 12:27 -0700
Message-ID<08a318bb-3af4-42f9-a691-e19e8a3ae743@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585513
Michael
You're full of shit.
You don't even know what the IMF does
or why it's there.
Do you?

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#585521

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-06-18 19:38 +0000
Message-ID<nk47up$f3u$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#585515
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>You're full of shit.
>You don't even know what the IMF does
>or why it's there.

It's not relevant.  I asked for the orbital change due ONLY TO 
GRAVITATIONAL RADIATION.  Magnetic fields aren't being discussed, even
if they dominate (which is my point)!

Now get to work! Calculate the orbital change due to gravitational
radiation ONLY.  No IMF, no solar wind, no invisible pink fairies, 
gravitational radiation ONLY.

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#585563

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-18 15:58 -0700
Message-ID<75c64706-1dff-4960-864e-d2f04f250ac9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#585521
Michael
What is radiating?
What is its form?
What changes does that radiation
have on the radiating body(ies)?

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#585573

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-06-18 23:37 +0000
Message-ID<nk4lv5$s9a$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#585563
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>What is radiating?
>What is its form?
>What changes does that radiation
>have on the radiating body(ies)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_wave

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