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Lawyer kooks?

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First post2016-04-26 04:54 -0700
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  Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 04:54 -0700
    Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 05:04 -0700
    Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 05:16 -0700
      Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 05:31 -0700
        Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 06:05 -0700
          Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 06:11 -0700
            Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 07:36 -0700
              Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 07:52 -0700
            Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 07:38 -0700
              Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 08:00 -0700
              Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 10:07 -0500
                Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 08:13 -0700
                  Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 08:21 -0700
                    Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 08:28 -0700
                      Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 10:40 -0500
                        Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-26 12:48 -0400
                          Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 11:54 -0500
                            Re: Lawyer kooks? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 10:06 -0700
                              Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-26 14:39 -0400
                                Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 12:08 -0700
                                Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 14:17 -0500
                              Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 12:13 -0700
                                Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 16:08 -0700
                            Re: Lawyer kooks? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-26 19:42 +0000
                              Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 13:50 -0700
                                Re: Lawyer kooks? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-26 21:31 +0000
                                  Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 16:04 -0700
                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 16:12 -0700
                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 16:16 -0700
                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 16:23 -0700
                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-27 13:53 +0000
                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 07:16 -0700
                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 09:22 -0500
                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-27 14:55 +0000
                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 10:17 -0700
                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:19 -0500
                                              Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 10:23 -0700
                                                Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:33 -0500
                                                  Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 11:08 -0700
                                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 13:35 -0500
                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 15:47 -0500
                                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 16:03 -0500
                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-27 22:20 +0000
                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:36 -0500
                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-27 18:36 -0400
                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 15:43 -0700
                                                              Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:38 -0500
                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:37 -0500
                                                              Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-27 23:16 -0400
                                                                Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 09:32 -0500
                                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-27 16:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-27 15:59 -0400
                                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 15:48 -0500
                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-27 17:06 -0400
                                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 17:48 -0700
                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-27 23:05 -0400
                                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 06:00 -0700
                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 06:18 -0700
                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 07:42 -0700
                                                              Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-28 22:43 -0400
                                                                Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 06:00 -0700
                                                                  Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-29 09:55 -0400
                                                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 07:55 -0700
                                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 13:14 -0700
                                                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 14:20 -0700
                                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 14:44 -0700
                                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 16:20 -0700
                                                                              Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 00:27 -0400
                                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 00:27 -0400
                                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 21:40 -0700
                                                                              Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 02:24 -0400
                                                                                Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 04:37 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 12:21 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 09:57 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 10:28 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? "Pom Trotter" <invalid@example.com> - 2016-04-30 13:55 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 13:32 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-02 17:14 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 15:49 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-04 03:59 -0500
                                                                                            Re: A rancher hates "townies" for being too hip, too worldly. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-04 04:51 -0500
                                                                                              Re: A rancher hates "townies" for being too hip, too worldly. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-04 08:24 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-04 08:25 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 12:51 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Lawyer kooks? ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-04 19:25 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Lawyer kooks? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-04 21:37 -0700
                                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 05:53 -0700
                                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 06:08 -0700
                                                                              Re: Lawyer kooks? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 06:43 -0700
                                                                                Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 06:57 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 12:47 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 10:08 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 13:35 -0400
                                                                              Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 12:43 -0400
                                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-29 23:47 -0400
                                                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 10:32 -0500
                                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 08:56 -0700
                                                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 13:38 -0500
                                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 00:24 -0400
                                                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-29 23:53 -0400
                                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 21:03 -0700
                                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 01:59 -0400
                                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 02:04 -0400
                                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 02:04 -0400
                                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 00:14 -0400
                                                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 12:01 -0500
                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-28 15:17 -0400
                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:46 -0700
                                                              Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-28 23:26 -0400
                                                                Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 02:11 -0700
                                                                  Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-29 09:44 -0400
                                                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 07:07 -0700
                                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 00:47 -0400
                                                                        Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 04:32 -0700
                                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 12:18 -0400
                                                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 09:48 -0700
                                                                              Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 13:16 -0400
                                                                                Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 10:31 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-30 14:01 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 09:19 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-03 14:26 -0400
                                                                          Re: Lawyer kooks? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 14:13 -0700
                                            Re: Lawyer kooks? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-27 17:30 +0000
                      Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 08:45 -0700
                        Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-26 12:39 -0400
                          Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 06:10 -0700
                            Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-29 09:58 -0400
                              Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 08:23 -0700
                                Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-29 23:50 -0400
                    Re: Lawyer kooks? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 08:33 -0700
                  Re: Lawyer kooks? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 10:34 -0500
              Re: Lawyer kooks? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 16:26 -0700
      Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-26 11:40 -0400
        Re: Lawyer kooks? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 08:48 -0700
          Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-26 12:40 -0400
      Re: Lawyer kooks? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 16:29 -0700
        Re: Lawyer kooks? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-26 21:19 -0400
          Re: Lawyer kooks? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 14:49 -0700

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#573774

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-27 12:48 -0700
Message-ID<5c5866f5-b58b-4928-9f77-162b5d65972e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#573758
HE SAID HE SAW IT HAPPEN ON TV.
Who else did?

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#573788

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-27 15:47 -0500
Message-ID<nfr8gt$s1s$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#573774
On 4/27/2016 2:48 PM, john wrote:
> HE SAID HE SAW IT HAPPEN ON TV.
> Who else did?
>

Lots of people.
Here's the sequence of events:
8:13 -- Flight 11 doesn't respond to air traffic control instructions, 
and suspicions about a hijacking begins.
8:20 -- Bush's morning briefing ends, and he prepares to leave his 
overnight hotel.
8:31 -- Flight 11 makes a major course correction and heads toward NYC.
Somewhere between 8:30 and 8:39 -- Bush starts motorcade from hotel to 
Booker Elementary, a 20 minute ride in a fully electronically equipped 
presidential limo.
8:42 -- Flight 175 makes a major midcourse correction
8:43 -- NORAD notified of Flight 11 and 175 hijacking
8:46 -- Flight 77 starts to go off course.
8:46 -- Flight 11 crashes into the WTC
8:48 -- News reports start airing
Between 8:55 and 8:58 -- Bush arrives at Booker Elementary. Local 
reporters at the school are already hearing about the reports of the 
first crash.
9:00 -- Bush takes a call from C Rice about the first airplane strike.
9:03 -- Flight 175 crashes into the WTC
9:05 -- Andrew Card whispers to Bush about the second crash and says 
it's an attack.
9:12 -- Bush leaves Booker Elementary
9:16 -- Flight 93 shows signs of being hijacked.

Now, what about this timeline gives you the heebie-jeebies?





-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#573793

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-27 16:03 -0500
Message-ID<nfr9f1$tk5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#573774
On 4/27/2016 2:48 PM, john wrote:
> HE SAID HE SAW IT HAPPEN ON TV.
> Who else did?
>

I don't know where you were when the airplanes hit the WTC. I don't know 
if you remember clearly where you were.

I know where I was. I was in a bagel shop, having breakfast and a 
discussion with some friends. The TV was on. Another friend was working 
behind the counter. At about 10 minutes before the hour, the friend 
behind the counter refreshed our coffee and said, "News is saying a 
plane hit the World Trade Center." We said, "What, really?" And the 
friend said, "The building's on fire and it's on TV. They're saying it 
may have been a small two-engine prop plane." And we kept on talking for 
a while, but the news started to get our attention. By the top of the 
hour we had stopped talking and were listening to the news. Three 
minutes later, we saw the second plane, obviously an airliner, hit the WTC.

Now, what were the news people telling YOU when this happened, John?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#573809

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-04-27 22:20 +0000
Message-ID<nfrdv4$1um$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#573793
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>On 4/27/2016 2:48 PM, john wrote:
>> HE SAID HE SAW IT HAPPEN ON TV.
>> Who else did?
>>

>I don't know where you were when the airplanes hit the WTC. I don't know 
>if you remember clearly where you were.

>I know where I was. I was in a bagel shop, having breakfast and a 
...

I think John is saying how, some time after the attack, Bush said he saw
the first plane hit on TV.  But that guy permanently had his foot in his
mouth so I never put any weight in fine details of what he said. He was
probably talking how he saw the second plane hit, he probably was shown
that video as soon as he got into his limo leaving the school or shortly
after. He wouldn't have seen either plane live, when the first plane hit
he was enroute to the school and when the second plane hit he was in the
classroom.

He may also been talking about later seeing the first plane hitting video,
it came out after about 24 hours I think.

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#573830

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-27 19:36 -0500
Message-ID<nfrlu8$1e7b$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#573809
On 4/27/2016 5:20 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 4/27/2016 2:48 PM, john wrote:
>>> HE SAID HE SAW IT HAPPEN ON TV.
>>> Who else did?
>>>
>
>> I don't know where you were when the airplanes hit the WTC. I don't know
>> if you remember clearly where you were.
>
>> I know where I was. I was in a bagel shop, having breakfast and a
> ...
>
> I think John is saying how, some time after the attack, Bush said he saw
> the first plane hit on TV.  But that guy permanently had his foot in his
> mouth so I never put any weight in fine details of what he said. He was
> probably talking how he saw the second plane hit, he probably was shown
> that video as soon as he got into his limo leaving the school or shortly
> after. He wouldn't have seen either plane live, when the first plane hit
> he was enroute to the school and when the second plane hit he was in the
> classroom.
>
> He may also been talking about later seeing the first plane hitting video,
> it came out after about 24 hours I think.
>

Bush had the mental chops of a dust bunny. Condy Rice was fully aware of 
what the situation was when she called him right at 9. There are reports 
that he thought it was an accident, not an attack, and it wasn't until 
he was explicitly told by Card that it was an attack that it began to 
soak in. Unfortunately, one of his advisers in the back of the room held 
up a sheet of paper with large block lettering that said, "Don't say 
anything yet," which gave Bush the chance to stew on it some more about 
what he should do.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#573810

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-27 18:36 -0400
Message-ID<57213ef6$0$43741$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#573793
On 04/27/2016 05:03 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/27/2016 2:48 PM, john wrote:
>> HE SAID HE SAW IT HAPPEN ON TV.
>> Who else did?
>>
>
> I don't know where you were when the airplanes hit the WTC. I don't know
> if you remember clearly where you were.
>
> I know where I was. I was in a bagel shop, having breakfast and a
> discussion with some friends. The TV was on. Another friend was working
> behind the counter. At about 10 minutes before the hour, the friend
> behind the counter refreshed our coffee and said, "News is saying a
> plane hit the World Trade Center." We said, "What, really?" And the
> friend said, "The building's on fire and it's on TV. They're saying it
> may have been a small two-engine prop plane." And we kept on talking for
> a while, but the news started to get our attention. By the top of the
> hour we had stopped talking and were listening to the news. Three
> minutes later, we saw the second plane, obviously an airliner, hit the WTC.
>
> Now, what were the news people telling YOU when this happened, John?

Remember John, that "journalists" and media people NEVER LIE! You can 
take anything they say as Gospel!

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#573813

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-27 15:43 -0700
Message-ID<d3ac8bf7-0b82-4193-bbfd-ed44502bce97@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#573810
Well, I've seen the video.
A little girl asked him about
HIS FIRST THOUGHTS
and he said, basically, "When I saw the
first plane hit on TV,
before going into the classroom,
I thought, 'There's a terrible pilot!' "

Aw, what a sweet guy!

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#573833

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-27 19:38 -0500
Message-ID<nfrm1s$1e7b$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#573813
On 4/27/2016 5:43 PM, john wrote:
> Well, I've seen the video.
> A little girl asked him about
> HIS FIRST THOUGHTS
> and he said, basically, "When I saw the
> first plane hit on TV,
> before going into the classroom,
> I thought, 'There's a terrible pilot!' "
>
> Aw, what a sweet guy!
>

Dumb as a post.

What's your point?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#573832

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-27 19:37 -0500
Message-ID<nfrm00$1e7b$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#573810
On 4/27/2016 5:36 PM, benj wrote:
> On 04/27/2016 05:03 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/27/2016 2:48 PM, john wrote:
>>> HE SAID HE SAW IT HAPPEN ON TV.
>>> Who else did?
>>>
>>
>> I don't know where you were when the airplanes hit the WTC. I don't know
>> if you remember clearly where you were.
>>
>> I know where I was. I was in a bagel shop, having breakfast and a
>> discussion with some friends. The TV was on. Another friend was working
>> behind the counter. At about 10 minutes before the hour, the friend
>> behind the counter refreshed our coffee and said, "News is saying a
>> plane hit the World Trade Center." We said, "What, really?" And the
>> friend said, "The building's on fire and it's on TV. They're saying it
>> may have been a small two-engine prop plane." And we kept on talking for
>> a while, but the news started to get our attention. By the top of the
>> hour we had stopped talking and were listening to the news. Three
>> minutes later, we saw the second plane, obviously an airliner, hit the
>> WTC.
>>
>> Now, what were the news people telling YOU when this happened, John?
>
> Remember John, that "journalists" and media people NEVER LIE! You can
> take anything they say as Gospel!
>

They've been known to lie, and they've certainly been known to make 
mistakes. This doesn't mean everything they say is false.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#573857

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-27 23:16 -0400
Message-ID<572180a9$0$16695$c3e8da3$76a7c58f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#573832
On 04/27/2016 08:37 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/27/2016 5:36 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 04/27/2016 05:03 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 4/27/2016 2:48 PM, john wrote:
>>>> HE SAID HE SAW IT HAPPEN ON TV.
>>>> Who else did?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know where you were when the airplanes hit the WTC. I don't know
>>> if you remember clearly where you were.
>>>
>>> I know where I was. I was in a bagel shop, having breakfast and a
>>> discussion with some friends. The TV was on. Another friend was working
>>> behind the counter. At about 10 minutes before the hour, the friend
>>> behind the counter refreshed our coffee and said, "News is saying a
>>> plane hit the World Trade Center." We said, "What, really?" And the
>>> friend said, "The building's on fire and it's on TV. They're saying it
>>> may have been a small two-engine prop plane." And we kept on talking for
>>> a while, but the news started to get our attention. By the top of the
>>> hour we had stopped talking and were listening to the news. Three
>>> minutes later, we saw the second plane, obviously an airliner, hit the
>>> WTC.
>>>
>>> Now, what were the news people telling YOU when this happened, John?
>>
>> Remember John, that "journalists" and media people NEVER LIE! You can
>> take anything they say as Gospel!
>>
>
> They've been known to lie, and they've certainly been known to make
> mistakes. This doesn't mean everything they say is false.

And even more often been known to lie and call it "mistakes" when 
caught. But it certainly DOES mean that nothing they say can be trusted.


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#573950

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-28 09:32 -0500
Message-ID<nft6sq$1mq9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#573857
On 4/27/2016 10:16 PM, benj wrote:
> On 04/27/2016 08:37 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/27/2016 5:36 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 04/27/2016 05:03 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 4/27/2016 2:48 PM, john wrote:
>>>>> HE SAID HE SAW IT HAPPEN ON TV.
>>>>> Who else did?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know where you were when the airplanes hit the WTC. I don't
>>>> know
>>>> if you remember clearly where you were.
>>>>
>>>> I know where I was. I was in a bagel shop, having breakfast and a
>>>> discussion with some friends. The TV was on. Another friend was working
>>>> behind the counter. At about 10 minutes before the hour, the friend
>>>> behind the counter refreshed our coffee and said, "News is saying a
>>>> plane hit the World Trade Center." We said, "What, really?" And the
>>>> friend said, "The building's on fire and it's on TV. They're saying it
>>>> may have been a small two-engine prop plane." And we kept on talking
>>>> for
>>>> a while, but the news started to get our attention. By the top of the
>>>> hour we had stopped talking and were listening to the news. Three
>>>> minutes later, we saw the second plane, obviously an airliner, hit the
>>>> WTC.
>>>>
>>>> Now, what were the news people telling YOU when this happened, John?
>>>
>>> Remember John, that "journalists" and media people NEVER LIE! You can
>>> take anything they say as Gospel!
>>>
>>
>> They've been known to lie, and they've certainly been known to make
>> mistakes. This doesn't mean everything they say is false.
>
> And even more often been known to lie and call it "mistakes" when
> caught. But it certainly DOES mean that nothing they say can be trusted.

No, it doesn't mean that NOTHING they say can be trusted.

That's the point, Ben. You say that unless someone can be verified to 
tell the truth ALL THE TIME, then NOTHING they say can be trusted. But 
NOBODY meets that bar, and so you trust no one. Even YOU lie, and so you 
cannot trust yourself.

You have a ridiculous notion of how to discern what to trust and what 
not to trust, and as a result you have got yourself in an isolation 
nutjob bubble.



-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#573779

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-27 16:06 -0400
Message-ID<57211bcd$0$28841$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#573753
On 04/27/2016 02:08 PM, john wrote:
> If there weren't 65 other things
> wrong with the official
> story, that would STILL be far-fetched.
> Check the time Bush told the
> school principal there was a
> plane/building accident.
> He knew before he exited his limo.
> He saw it happen.
> HE SAID SO.
> What more proof do your retarded
> little brains need?
>
Of course he did. You must admit this was an excellent plan! Secretly 
"help" the terrorists create a much bigger incident than they would have 
otherwise done to speed America to the police state dictatorship that 
HVAC has wet dreams about nightly. It worked so well before in Oklahoma 
that who could resist doing it again with similar excellent results. 
Media and shills can keep the lid on all doubts just as before. Comrade, 
when something is right, it is right!

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#573776

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-27 15:59 -0400
Message-ID<57211a08$0$64294$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#573743
On 04/27/2016 01:33 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/27/2016 12:23 PM, john wrote:
>> 7 wasn't
>>
>
> Nope, and it's not the first building to fall down as a result of NOT
> being hit by a plane, either. It's also not the first building to fall
> down as a result of NOT being blown up with explosives.

Boinker is right, John. One doesn't need kooky conspiracy theories when 
that building's fall is easily explained by the fact that the building 
got so depressed at seeing the destruction of it's two long-time pals 
that it simply collapsed in a heap from grief! No need to look for 
explosives!

As always, Odd's logic and knowledge solves all mysteries!

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#573789

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-27 15:48 -0500
Message-ID<nfr8iv$s1s$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#573776
On 4/27/2016 2:59 PM, benj wrote:
> On 04/27/2016 01:33 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/27/2016 12:23 PM, john wrote:
>>> 7 wasn't
>>>
>>
>> Nope, and it's not the first building to fall down as a result of NOT
>> being hit by a plane, either. It's also not the first building to fall
>> down as a result of NOT being blown up with explosives.
>
> Boinker is right, John. One doesn't need kooky conspiracy theories when
> that building's fall is easily explained by the fact that the building
> got so depressed at seeing the destruction of it's two long-time pals
> that it simply collapsed in a heap from grief! No need to look for
> explosives!

I'm sure the other buildings that have fallen without explosives or 
crashing airliners must have died of depression too.

>
> As always, Odd's logic and knowledge solves all mysteries!


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#573795

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-27 17:06 -0400
Message-ID<572129cd$0$6023$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#573789
On 04/27/2016 04:48 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/27/2016 2:59 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 04/27/2016 01:33 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 4/27/2016 12:23 PM, john wrote:
>>>> 7 wasn't
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, and it's not the first building to fall down as a result of NOT
>>> being hit by a plane, either. It's also not the first building to fall
>>> down as a result of NOT being blown up with explosives.
>>
>> Boinker is right, John. One doesn't need kooky conspiracy theories when
>> that building's fall is easily explained by the fact that the building
>> got so depressed at seeing the destruction of it's two long-time pals
>> that it simply collapsed in a heap from grief! No need to look for
>> explosives!
>
> I'm sure the other buildings that have fallen without explosives or
> crashing airliners must have died of depression too.

I'm sure. After all, to think otherwise would be science heresy and you 
wouldn't want a wee taste o' the stake, would you?

>> As always, Odd's logic and knowledge solves all mysteries!
>
>

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#573835

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-27 17:48 -0700
Message-ID<2f90a086-8bd3-478f-9c35-b002e8ad5a70@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#573776
BJ quacked
Boinker is right, John. One doesn't need kooky conspiracy theories when 
that building's fall is easily explained by the fact that the building 
got so depressed at seeing the destruction of it's two long-time pals 
that it simply collapsed in a heap from grief! No need to look for 
explosives! 
----------------

Of course this humorous (except to the victim's families) story that BJ tells is stolen from 9/11 kook websites. It's not even his. He stole it.

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#573854

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-27 23:05 -0400
Message-ID<57217dee$0$21192$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#573835
On 04/27/2016 08:48 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> Boinker is right, John. One doesn't need kooky conspiracy theories when
> that building's fall is easily explained by the fact that the building
> got so depressed at seeing the destruction of it's two long-time pals
> that it simply collapsed in a heap from grief! No need to look for
> explosives!
> ----------------
>
> Of course this humorous (except to the victim's families) story that BJ tells is stolen from 9/11 kook websites. It's not even his. He stole it.
>
Lie. All of HVAC's life is stolen from websites. He's professional liar. 
I've never visited 9/11 websites. And In fact I haven't much read the 
official "explanations" either. But the fact that a building fell down 
without being hit by ANYTHING is so blatantly absurd that there have to 
be professional liars out there like HVAC to try to convince the 
ignorant Americans that what they've seen really is OK.

HVAC is just doing his job, but you ignorant Rubes who listen to his 
screed are really what is so sad.

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#573931

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-28 06:00 -0700
Message-ID<4a5305ca-4e73-4371-9cb4-22c5bea08ec6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#573854
BJ quacked
> 
> Of course this humorous (except to the victim's families) story that BJ tells is stolen from 9/11 kook websites. It's not even his. He stole it. 
> 
Lie. All of HVAC's life is stolen from websites. He's professional liar. 
-------------

Typical excuse/denial. Anyone who has raised children (that means not BJ) had heard something similar when one of their kids had been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

You can easily Google up the roots of BJ's 'sympathy' story. BJ, just admit you stole this story and we can move on. 

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#573937

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-28 06:18 -0700
Message-ID<633b37f3-4419-42cf-9639-d46c70df8eae@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#573931
Well
Apparently, HVAC has been told
hands-off Chemtrails.
Is that because some lawyers have
proof that someone has been intentionally 
disbursing harmful chemicals into the air?

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#573953

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-28 07:42 -0700
Message-ID<e8f16bee-43d6-47b2-9ac4-5d37f8120a88@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#573937
john
Well 
Apparently, HVAC has been told 
hands-off Chemtrails. 
Is that because some lawyers have 
proof that someone has been intentionally 
disbursing harmful chemicals into the air? 
-------------

John. Just answer this ONE question. Do you believe in ghosts?

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