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The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2016-04-18 16:05 -0500
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  The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 16:05 -0500
    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-18 21:21 +0000
    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-18 22:32 +0000
    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-18 15:57 -0700
      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 21:07 -0500
        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-19 13:05 -0700
          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 13:28 -0700
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 15:59 -0500
    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Boris Mohar <borism_void_@sympatico.ca> - 2016-04-19 06:53 -0400
      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 06:34 -0700
        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 07:01 -0700
          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-19 13:43 -0400
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 13:49 -0500
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-19 23:10 -0400
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-04-20 03:15 +0000
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 08:05 -0500
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 06:15 -0700
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 07:27 -0700
                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 07:44 -0700
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-20 13:40 -0400
                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 07:47 -0700
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 07:57 -0700
                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 08:08 -0700
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-20 13:41 -0400
                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 10:14 -0500
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-20 13:52 -0400
                            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 14:22 -0500
                              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-20 22:16 -0400
                                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 08:55 -0500
                                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 12:14 -0400
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 10:11 -0500
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-20 15:40 +0000
                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 10:07 -0500
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-20 13:25 -0400
                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 02:40 -0700
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 11:44 -0400
                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 04:59 -0700
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 11:32 -0400
                            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 09:35 -0700
                              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 12:56 -0400
        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 10:41 -0500
          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-21 20:30 -0700
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 07:47 -0500
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-22 07:20 -0700
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 09:25 -0500
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:18 -0500
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-22 07:26 -0700
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 09:35 -0500
      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 10:33 -0500
        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-19 13:47 -0400
          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 11:26 -0700
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 13:57 -0500
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 12:02 -0700
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 14:18 -0500
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-19 19:39 +0000
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 14:55 -0500
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 13:30 -0700
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 08:47 -0500
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 18:43 -0700
          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 13:54 -0500
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-19 23:21 -0400
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 08:08 -0500
        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-19 22:21 +0000
          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 15:31 -0700
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 07:57 -0500
    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-19 07:36 -0700
      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 11:07 -0500
        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-21 20:32 -0700
          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 04:34 -0700
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:09 -0500
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 06:28 -0700
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:32 -0500
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:33 -0500
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:30 -0500
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:28 -0500
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 06:41 -0700
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:50 -0500
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 07:04 -0700
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 07:09 -0700
                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 07:15 -0700
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 12:36 -0400
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 09:22 -0500
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-22 14:43 +0000
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-22 10:20 -0700
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 12:42 -0500
          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 07:47 -0500
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-22 07:25 -0700
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 09:27 -0500
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 09:39 -0500
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-22 17:00 +0000
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 10:12 -0700
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-22 17:22 +0000
                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 10:32 -0700
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 12:54 -0500
                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 10:57 -0700
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 13:27 -0500
                            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 13:41 -0500
                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 15:00 -0400
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 12:05 -0700
                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 13:51 -0500
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 12:40 -0500
                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 10:46 -0700
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 13:22 -0500
                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 21:13 -0400
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 14:08 -0500
                            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-24 23:55 -0400
                              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 21:27 -0700
                                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-25 01:56 -0400
                                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 06:58 -0500
                                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 06:55 -0500
                              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 06:50 -0500
                                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 04:58 -0700
                                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 07:02 -0500
                                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 05:12 -0700
                                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 05:39 -0700
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 14:46 -0400
                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 13:48 -0500
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 23:39 -0400
                            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 14:11 -0500
                              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 16:58 -0700
                                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 06:39 -0500
                                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 04:44 -0700
                                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 07:01 -0500
                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:52 -0700
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 21:37 -0400
                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 14:53 -0400
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 13:52 -0500
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-25 08:56 -0700
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-25 16:51 +0000
                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-25 20:24 -0700
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-26 14:41 +0000
                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 10:09 -0500
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-27 07:29 -0700
                            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 09:43 -0500
                              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-27 20:50 -0700
                                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 10:05 -0500
                                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-30 06:31 -0700
                                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 08:42 -0500
                                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 12:38 -0500
                                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-04 05:26 -0700
                                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 10:55 -0500
                                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-28 19:39 -0700
                                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 10:35 -0500
                                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-29 08:58 -0700
                                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-30 06:37 -0700
                                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 08:43 -0500
                                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 12:38 -0500
                                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-30 06:40 -0700
                                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 08:44 -0500
                                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 07:02 -0700
                                    Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 12:39 -0500
                                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 13:15 -0700
                                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-03 14:32 +0000
                                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 05:35 -0700
                                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-04 05:30 -0700
                                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 12:24 -0500
                                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 11:27 -0700
                                            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 13:31 -0500
                            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:12 -0500
                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-27 07:48 -0700
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-27 15:25 +0000
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:28 -0500
                      Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 19:44 -0500
                        Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-27 07:21 -0700
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-27 14:41 +0000
                          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:29 -0500
                            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-27 10:41 -0700
          Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:22 -0500
            Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-22 07:34 -0700
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 09:42 -0500
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:14 -0700
              Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 09:50 -0500
                Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:06 -0700
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 10:16 -0500
                  Re: The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-22 16:51 +0000

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#571393 — The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-18 16:05 -0500
SubjectThe search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again
Message-ID<geednSsmUNCJ0YjKnZ2dnUU7-T0AAAAA@giganews.com>
The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again
> http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/the-search-for-hidden-dimensions-comes-up-empty-again/


> Now, one of the most sensitive experiments yet has reported another
> null result. But it's a very cool experiment nonetheless.
>
> Why do quantum mechanics and gravity always argue, Mom?
>
> Here is the sort of conflict facing physicists: quantum mechanics
> takes place on the fixed stage of space and time; in gravity, space
> and time are actors. In quantum mechanics, the actors are not always
> continuous, often making sharp jumps. Unfortunately, gravity requires
> that space and time be smooth and continuous. These conflicting
> requirements are, so far, unresolved.
>
> One approach to resolving this problem is for space and time to have
> more than four dimensions. I can't pretend to have a great
> understanding of this subject, but my impression is that all the
> jumpiness of space time will get absorbed into the dimensions that we
> don't observe. Why don't we observe these dimensions? Because they
> are curled up into tiny volumes.
>
> Yet particles should still feel them. Imagine that you are a
> particle. You have some mass, and therefore, you bend space and time
> such that nearby objects feel a force attracting them to you—even
> better, it is a mutual attraction, the best sort of attraction.
>


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#571407

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-18 21:21 +0000
Message-ID<qnvfuc-9ba.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#571393
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again

Yawn.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#571421

FromFabian Russell <fb@zen.info>
Date2016-04-18 22:32 +0000
Message-ID<nf3n9g02uj1@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#571393
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:05:24 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

> The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again
>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/t
>

Fuck that goddamned arse-technica shit.

This is actually a very fascinating area of experimental
physics which tests the inverse square law at extremely
(relatively speaking) small distances.  One can appreciate
the difficulties that must be overcome to arrive at valid
results.

Only the original article can do this subject justice:

http://dx.doi.org/10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.131101

Well, it's only the summary.  The article itself is
behind a fucking paywall.

Why doesn't Sammy use his resources to obtain the original
article and post it here?

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#571425

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-04-18 15:57 -0700
Message-ID<2f8206e9-2d65-47f3-8e1b-4116ded3af3c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#571393
On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 2:05:28 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again
> > http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/the-search-for-hidden-dimensions-comes-up-empty-again/
> 
> 
> > Now, one of the most sensitive experiments yet has reported another
> > null result. But it's a very cool experiment nonetheless.
> >
> > Why do quantum mechanics and gravity always argue, Mom?
> >
> > Here is the sort of conflict facing physicists: quantum mechanics
> > takes place on the fixed stage of space and time; in gravity, space
> > and time are actors. In quantum mechanics, the actors are not always
> > continuous, often making sharp jumps. Unfortunately, gravity requires
> > that space and time be smooth and continuous. These conflicting
> > requirements are, so far, unresolved.
> >
> > One approach to resolving this problem is for space and time to have
> > more than four dimensions. I can't pretend to have a great
> > understanding of this subject, but my impression is that all the
> > jumpiness of space time will get absorbed into the dimensions that we
> > don't observe. Why don't we observe these dimensions? Because they
> > are curled up into tiny volumes.
> >
> > Yet particles should still feel them. Imagine that you are a
> > particle. You have some mass, and therefore, you bend space and time
> > such that nearby objects feel a force attracting them to you--even
> > better, it is a mutual attraction, the best sort of attraction.
> >


Wasn't Mike Varney involved in such tomfoolery a while back?

Double-A

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#571474

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-18 21:07 -0500
Message-ID<X8CdnVmB-vxxD4jKnZ2dnUU7-KGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#571425
On 4/18/16 5:57 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 2:05:28 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again
>>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/the-search-for-hidden-dimensions-comes-up-empty-again/
>>
>>
>>> Now, one of the most sensitive experiments yet has reported another
>>> null result. But it's a very cool experiment nonetheless.
>>>
>>> Why do quantum mechanics and gravity always argue, Mom?
>>>
>>> Here is the sort of conflict facing physicists: quantum mechanics
>>> takes place on the fixed stage of space and time; in gravity, space
>>> and time are actors. In quantum mechanics, the actors are not always
>>> continuous, often making sharp jumps. Unfortunately, gravity requires
>>> that space and time be smooth and continuous. These conflicting
>>> requirements are, so far, unresolved.
>>>
>>> One approach to resolving this problem is for space and time to have
>>> more than four dimensions. I can't pretend to have a great
>>> understanding of this subject, but my impression is that all the
>>> jumpiness of space time will get absorbed into the dimensions that we
>>> don't observe. Why don't we observe these dimensions? Because they
>>> are curled up into tiny volumes.
>>>
>>> Yet particles should still feel them. Imagine that you are a
>>> particle. You have some mass, and therefore, you bend space and time
>>> such that nearby objects feel a force attracting them to you--even
>>> better, it is a mutual attraction, the best sort of attraction.
>>>
>
>
> Wasn't Mike Varney involved in such tomfoolery a while back?
>
> Double-A
>

   If you want to contact Mike, I can email you his email address.



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#571654

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-04-19 13:05 -0700
Message-ID<deb26d1f-dde5-476b-8b38-8bc3ea684e83@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#571474
On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 7:07:43 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 4/18/16 5:57 PM, Double-A wrote:
> > On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 2:05:28 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> >> The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again
> >>> http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/the-search-for-hidden-dimensions-comes-up-empty-again/
> >>
> >>
> >>> Now, one of the most sensitive experiments yet has reported another
> >>> null result. But it's a very cool experiment nonetheless.
> >>>
> >>> Why do quantum mechanics and gravity always argue, Mom?
> >>>
> >>> Here is the sort of conflict facing physicists: quantum mechanics
> >>> takes place on the fixed stage of space and time; in gravity, space
> >>> and time are actors. In quantum mechanics, the actors are not always
> >>> continuous, often making sharp jumps. Unfortunately, gravity requires
> >>> that space and time be smooth and continuous. These conflicting
> >>> requirements are, so far, unresolved.
> >>>
> >>> One approach to resolving this problem is for space and time to have
> >>> more than four dimensions. I can't pretend to have a great
> >>> understanding of this subject, but my impression is that all the
> >>> jumpiness of space time will get absorbed into the dimensions that we
> >>> don't observe. Why don't we observe these dimensions? Because they
> >>> are curled up into tiny volumes.
> >>>
> >>> Yet particles should still feel them. Imagine that you are a
> >>> particle. You have some mass, and therefore, you bend space and time
> >>> such that nearby objects feel a force attracting them to you--even
> >>> better, it is a mutual attraction, the best sort of attraction.
> >>>
> >
> >
> > Wasn't Mike Varney involved in such tomfoolery a while back?
> >
> > Double-A
> >
> 
>    If you want to contact Mike, I can email you his email address.
> 

That's OK.  I'm sure he reads this group, and if he wants to respond to any of my remarks, I'm sure he'll fine a way.  He has before.

Double-A

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#571667

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-19 13:28 -0700
Message-ID<6a510579-93a3-47d4-a0e0-86b5128d7383@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#571654
Odd and Mikey
Play with math all you want-
it will never be reality.

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#571677

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-19 15:59 -0500
Message-ID<nf6680$3dm$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#571667
On 4/19/2016 3:28 PM, john wrote:
> Odd and Mikey
> Play with math all you want-
> it will never be reality.
>

John, definitions are definitions. As I've told you, how a dimension is 
defined was determined by physicists and mathematicians. If you want to 
claim that their definition of dimension is not real and that you have a 
more realistic and grounded definition of dimension than they do, then 
you can certainly carry that cardboard sign around with you at protest 
demonstrations and rallies if you want to.

Just me, but it seems silly to stick to your guns and claim that because 
YOUR COMMON SENSE tells you that 2D objects are flat, then "curved 2D 
surfaces" is a contradiction in terms. That's a special kind of 
ignorance: arrogant ignorance. "The experts may not agree with me, but I 
like my concept better, so they're full of it."

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#571532

FromBoris Mohar <borism_void_@sympatico.ca>
Date2016-04-19 06:53 -0400
Message-ID<if3chbp3un8q4bp8af35it7j1gh1ln94tb@4ax.com>
In reply to#571393
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:05:24 -0500, Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:

>The search for hidden dimensions comes up empty again

How can a dimension itself have a size?
-- 
Boris

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#571538

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-19 06:34 -0700
Message-ID<ac93b422-c574-460c-9f75-43530c8961c3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#571532
There are THREE dimensions.

Just like with logarithmic paper,
reality can be constructed at different 
scales.
And is

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#571545

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-19 07:01 -0700
Message-ID<f1966745-421e-42e3-b593-e8bb18476011@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#571538
john
There are THREE dimensions. 

Just like with logarithmic paper, 
reality can be constructed at different 
scales. 
And is 
-------------

John, just use the example of a kitchen chair. It exits. It exists in width, in breadth, in height, AND in time.

Time is as real as any other dimension. Obviously.

Until you actually THINK this way, knowing that time is an equal partner in our four dimensional space/time, you will always struggle with physical concepts.

Right right?

Fist bump bro?

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#571593

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-19 13:43 -0400
Message-ID<57166e3c$0$53745$c3e8da3$3304c218@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#571545
On 04/19/2016 10:01 AM, HVAC wrote:
> john
> There are THREE dimensions.
>
> Just like with logarithmic paper,
> reality can be constructed at different
> scales.
> And is
> -------------
>
> John, just use the example of a kitchen chair. It exits. It exists in width, in breadth, in height, AND in time.
>
> Time is as real as any other dimension. Obviously.
>
> Until you actually THINK this way, knowing that time is an equal partner in our four dimensional space/time, you will always struggle with physical concepts.
>
> Right right?
>
> Fist bump bro?
>
Time is not a dimension, Professor Wormley to the contrary not 
withstanding. You really have no understanding of math and science do 
you? When was the last time you saw x or y constantly and inexorably 
moving from smaller to larger values? Idiot. Loser.

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#571608

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-19 13:49 -0500
Message-ID<nf5ujc$1m96$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#571593
On 4/19/2016 12:43 PM, benj wrote:
> Time is not a dimension, Professor Wormley to the contrary not
> withstanding. You really have no understanding of math and science do
> you? When was the last time you saw x or y constantly and inexorably
> moving from smaller to larger values? Idiot. Loser.

I'm sorry, I'm not following. Is it your claim that by definition 
(whose?) a dimension is something that a body can move freely along in 
either direction?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#571719

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-19 23:10 -0400
Message-ID<5716f31f$0$62719$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#571608
On 04/19/2016 02:49 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/19/2016 12:43 PM, benj wrote:
>> Time is not a dimension, Professor Wormley to the contrary not
>> withstanding. You really have no understanding of math and science do
>> you? When was the last time you saw x or y constantly and inexorably
>> moving from smaller to larger values? Idiot. Loser.
>
> I'm sorry, I'm not following. Is it your claim that by definition
> (whose?) a dimension is something that a body can move freely along in
> either direction?

Of course you are not following. But I'm not here to educate you in 
mathematical fantasy.

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#571720

FromR Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com>
Date2016-04-20 03:15 +0000
Message-ID<nf6s84$v2o$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#571719
benj <loser@gmail> wrote:
> On 04/19/2016 02:49 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/19/2016 12:43 PM, benj wrote:
>>> Time is not a dimension, Professor Wormley to the contrary not
>>> withstanding. You really have no understanding of math and science do
>>> you? When was the last time you saw x or y constantly and inexorably
>>> moving from smaller to larger values? Idiot. Loser.

"moving"? Descartes befores deshorse.

>> I'm sorry, I'm not following. Is it your claim that by definition
>> (whose?) a dimension is something that a body can move freely along in
>> either direction?
> Of course you are not following. But I'm not here to educate you in 
> mathematical fantasy.

It's just sommin you do by accident?

-- 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension
In physics and mathematics, the dimension of a mathematical space (or object
) is informally defined as the minimum number of coordinates needed to 
specify any point within it.

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#571803

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-20 08:05 -0500
Message-ID<nf7uqq$ld2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#571719
On 4/19/2016 10:10 PM, benj wrote:
> On 04/19/2016 02:49 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/19/2016 12:43 PM, benj wrote:
>>> Time is not a dimension, Professor Wormley to the contrary not
>>> withstanding. You really have no understanding of math and science do
>>> you? When was the last time you saw x or y constantly and inexorably
>>> moving from smaller to larger values? Idiot. Loser.
>>
>> I'm sorry, I'm not following. Is it your claim that by definition
>> (whose?) a dimension is something that a body can move freely along in
>> either direction?
>
> Of course you are not following. But I'm not here to educate you in
> mathematical fantasy.

Oh, I see. So let's recap. You have a concept of dimension that appeals 
to your common sense, even though it might well be very different than 
the definition that is used by physicists and mathematicians. But then 
again, it's a mathematical term according to you, and therefore doesn't 
correspond to anything in reality and is only fantasy anyway. So you are 
free to make statements about time not being a fantastical dimension 
that has no bearing on reality, because of what your common sense tells 
you about this fantastical, nonreal notion.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#571807

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-20 06:15 -0700
Message-ID<f683226a-9c77-46d6-a5f9-124937297c1c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#571719
BJ quacked
Of course you are not following. But I'm not here to educate you in 
mathematical fantasy
-----------

BJ is here to educate people in his non fantasy topics. Including ghosts, ESP, and the 9/11 nuke theory.

You mad BJ?

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#571818

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-20 07:27 -0700
Message-ID<73b98007-c452-4d28-bc46-84301c064ec7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#571807
No such thing as SMALLEST
Because smaller is SMALLER

The trouble is, their radiation is also
smaller, so we can't see them.
But they're there.
They gravitate.
They're DM

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#571839

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-20 07:44 -0700
Message-ID<018dd7d6-cbcf-4aa7-8406-26fa642a14c3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#571818
No

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#571891

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-20 13:40 -0400
Message-ID<5717bf00$0$28811$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#571839
On 04/20/2016 10:44 AM, HVAC wrote:
> No

Wormley's "no" is bigger and 90 degrees out of phase.

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