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  Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 10:44 -0700
    Jets HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 10:54 -0700
      Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 11:17 -0700
      Re: Jets benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-16 14:21 -0400
        Re: Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 07:04 -0700
          Re: Jets HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 16:54 -0700
    Re: Jets omnilobe@gmail.com - 2016-04-17 08:52 -0700
      Re: Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 08:56 -0700
        Re: Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 09:12 -0700
    Re: Jets moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-18 03:33 +0000
      Re: Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 05:21 -0700
        Re: Jets HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 06:31 -0700
          Re: Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 06:37 -0700
            Re: Jets HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 06:44 -0700
              Re: Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 07:32 -0700
                Re: Jets HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 10:23 -0700
                  Re: Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 10:47 -0700
                    Re: Jets HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 11:11 -0700
                    Re: Jets moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-18 18:22 +0000
                      Re: Jets "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-04-18 13:41 -0500
                        Re: Jets moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-18 19:05 +0000
                          Re: Jets "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-04-18 16:12 -0500
                    Re: Jets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 11:10 -0500
                  Re: Jets benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-18 23:44 -0400
        Re: Jets moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-18 14:32 +0000
          Re: Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 07:52 -0700
            Re: Jets HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:21 -0700
              Re: Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 09:08 -0700
                Re: Jets HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 09:35 -0700
                  Re: Jets benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-18 13:10 -0400
                Re: Jets moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-18 16:57 +0000
            Re: Jets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 14:33 -0500
            Re: Jets moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-20 15:34 +0000
    Re: Jets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 11:01 -0500
      Re: Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 09:14 -0700
        Re: Jets moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-19 16:36 +0000
          Re: Jets john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 10:46 -0700
            Re: Jets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 14:03 -0500
        Re: Jets Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 12:24 -0500

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#570958 — Jets

A few years back, I suggested that
jets from BHs caused new stars to
form. As part of a cycle.
According to the Galaxy Model for the Atom.

That idea was roundly pooh-poohed, but
has since been found to be true.

Now, jets have been found aligned. I have
made numerous posts about atoms'
discs being aligned by controlling them
with magnetic fields. I have constructed 
a Benzene model from parallel precessing 
discs.

That's called "predictive power", Odd and
Michael.

Your model has never spoken to jets.

That's called "bullshit QM", Odd and Michael.

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#570960

john
A few years back, I suggested that 
jets from BHs caused new stars to 
form. As part of a cycle. 
According to the Galaxy Model for the Atom. 

That idea was roundly pooh-poohed, but 
has since been found to be true. 

Now, jets have been found aligned. I have 
made numerous posts about atoms' 
discs being aligned by controlling them 
with magnetic fields. I have constructed 
a Benzene model from parallel precessing 
discs. 

That's called "predictive power", Odd and 
Michael. 

Your model has never spoken to jets. 

That's called "bullshit QM", Odd and Michael. 
------------

John, relativistic jets play a minor part in the formation of the occasional star from time to time.
But only because their shock wave can compress interstellar gas clouds that were already present.

As to the predictive power of your bullshit...Well, even a blind pig gets a truffle every now and again.

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#570969

Pfft!

QM- worse than a blind pig.

Gotcha HVAC

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#570970

On 04/16/2016 01:54 PM, HVAC wrote:
> john
> A few years back, I suggested that
> jets from BHs caused new stars to
> form. As part of a cycle.
> According to the Galaxy Model for the Atom.
>
> That idea was roundly pooh-poohed, but
> has since been found to be true.
>
> Now, jets have been found aligned. I have
> made numerous posts about atoms'
> discs being aligned by controlling them
> with magnetic fields. I have constructed
> a Benzene model from parallel precessing
> discs.
>
> That's called "predictive power", Odd and
> Michael.
>
> Your model has never spoken to jets.
>
> That's called "bullshit QM", Odd and Michael.
> ------------
>
> John, relativistic jets play a minor part in the formation of the occasional star from time to time.
> But only because their shock wave can compress interstellar gas clouds that were already present.
>
> As to the predictive power of your bullshit...Well, even a blind pig gets a truffle every now and again.
>
Herb tells me that inside a BH is where the Blue Print (sic) to the 
universe is located. HVAC needs to learn that Bert is an imperial thinker.

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#571170

Galaxies which are active have jets.
Translation: atoms with an unequal number
of protons and electrons have magnetic 
poles at right-angles to their discs.
In neutral atoms, the magnetism created
by the negative and positive aspects
of the turning disc cancel each other out,
but in ions there is more of one or
the other. The precessing disc then
carries this magfield around in circles,
creating the ionic electric field.

In molecules, all the discs must precess
in parallel in order to keep all their
"jets" pointing the same way. Otherwise
there would be QM, oops, I mean Chaos.

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#571229

10:04 AMjohn
Galaxies which are active have jets. 
Translation: atoms with an unequal number 
of protons and electrons have magnetic 
poles at right-angles to their discs. 
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John, that's just silly

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#571175

Jets are time fountains. The polarization of time is allowing neutrons to depart a star-like object with a half-life extended beyond the 880 seconds that are common here. The neutron jet is from hot neutrons, selected by the time fountain to continue traveling a thousand years into spacetime.

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#571176

If we learn to align matter's jets,
we will be able to manipulate it beyond
Quite Mad's insanest imaginings.

We will be able to make it float, make it
split along any plane, make it invisible
both ways, make it only one-way invisible...

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#571178

By aligning the jets/discs of matter in
it's liquid phase, we will be able to make
all kinds of crystalline solids

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#571260

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>A few years back, I suggested that
>jets from BHs caused new stars to
>form. As part of a cycle.
>According to the Galaxy Model for the Atom.

>That idea was roundly pooh-poohed, but
>has since been found to be true.

What has been found to be true is that gas clouds being disturbed often
triggers star formation (from the gas cloud matter).  Supernovae disturb
them.  Compression (as they orbit the center) disturb them.  Black hole
jets disturb them.  Lots of things do.  So what?

>Now, jets have been found aligned. I have
>made numerous posts about atoms'
>discs being aligned by controlling them
>with magnetic fields. I have constructed 
>a Benzene model from parallel precessing 
>discs.

>That's called "predictive power", Odd and
>Michael.

No, that's not.  It's called "a retarded obsession with spinny things".

"Predictive power" is when you say "I believe A. If we do X and see Y, A
is supported because A predicts it.  If we do X and see Z, then A is not
true, the existing model likely is.

So what does your benzene spinny things (A) predict (other than violations
of the laws of physics)? What are X, Y and Z?

>Your model has never spoken to jets.

Atomic theory/QM? That's like saying the theory of classical 
electromagnetism doesn't address the odds of making a hole-in-one in golf
on chilly Sunday afternoons in October when the moon is full.

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#571286

Michael:
Jets are a HUGE part of the picture.
YOUR retarded theories seem to
have left them out entirely!!!

ROTFALMAO

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#571293

john
Michael: 
Jets are a HUGE part of the picture. 
YOUR retarded theories seem to 
have left them out entirely!!! 

ROTFALMAO 
------------

John you have zero evidence to back up your idea. It's strictly imagination. 

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#571297

HVAC
Zero evidence of jets affecting things out there?
ROTFLMAO

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#571298

john
HVAC 
Zero evidence of jets affecting things out there? 
ROTFLMAO
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No John. For your foolish and silly attempt to correlate a relativistic jet with the actions of atoms.

PS- Attempt to move goalposts noted

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#571302

HVAC
I keep explaining that galactic structure
tells us about atoms
and atomic action tells us about galaxies-
in my model-
called the Galaxy Model for the Atom.

So- galaxies are discs
therefore electrons are arranged in spinning rings-
which makes total sense
BECAUSE
If you have any electron generating a different
magnetic field than the other(s) at
any one moment,
they will adjust to each other in order
to conform.

YOU are a conformer, HVAC- you
should understand that!!

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#571330

HVAC 
I keep explaining that galactic structure 
tells us about atoms 
and atomic action tells us about galaxies- 
in my model- 
called the Galaxy Model for the Atom. 
--------------

John. Seriously. Just 86 this entire childish and silly 'model' and read a few books. Also, I suggest you hold off on your small pharma meds until the end of your day.

Good luck bro

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#571339

So-
These big-assed jets are everywhere out there-
shooting away from Black Holes-
by the scientists' own admission,
totally unexpectedly,
and your sorry-ass theory says
nothing comes away from BHs
except Hawking radiation,
and HE can't get out of his CHAIR,
and ...., where was I going with that?

Oh well. You're obviously FOS

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#571354

john
So- 
These big-assed jets are everywhere out there- 
---------------

No. Not everywhere.



shooting away from Black Holes- 
-------------

*Some* black holes.



by the scientists' own admission, 
totally unexpectedly, 
--------------

Quasars have been known for 1/2 a century. So not quite unexpected.



and your sorry-ass theory says 
nothing comes away from BHs 
except Hawking radiation, 
----------------

John, I've said this before many times. When you proceed from a false premise, your answer with always be wrong. What is said and what is obvious is that nothing can escape a black hole (except Hawking radiation) *once it passes the event horizon*. Relativistic jets come from areas that are not past the event horizon. 


and HE can't get out of his CHAIR, 
and ...., where was I going with that? 
--------------

John, you should consider asking some of the bright lights off this group for help in understanding the universe of the real. It is far better than the world of BJ, which is the realm of ghosts, esp and other paranormal/fantasy physics.

Good luck bro

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#571362

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>So-
>These big-assed jets are everywhere out there-
>shooting away from Black Holes-
>by the scientists' own admission,
>totally unexpectedly,

No, theory handles accretion disk jets just fine,

>and your sorry-ass theory says
>nothing comes away from BHs
>except Hawking radiation,

No, the jets come from the accretion disks plus magnetic fields.  The
mass/energy of the jets does NOT come from the holes, but from infalling
matter.

>and HE can't get out of his CHAIR,
>and ...., where was I going with that?

So, are you saying his condition invalidates what he says?

I personally think its a cause of his many great scientific works.  His
mind is trapped in a useless body.  It can't do much of anything but think
abstract thoughts about the universe.

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#571367

"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
news:nf38k9$lea$1@pcls7.std.com...
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>So-
>>These big-assed jets are everywhere out there-
>>shooting away from Black Holes-
>>by the scientists' own admission,
>>totally unexpectedly,
>
> No, theory handles accretion disk jets just fine,
>
>>and your sorry-ass theory says
>>nothing comes away from BHs
>>except Hawking radiation,
>
> No, the jets come from the accretion disks plus magnetic fields.  The
> mass/energy of the jets does NOT come from the holes, but from infalling
> matter.
>
>>and HE can't get out of his CHAIR,
>>and ...., where was I going with that?
>
> So, are you saying his condition invalidates what he says?
>
> I personally think its a cause of his many great scientific works.  His
> mind is trapped in a useless body.  It can't do much of anything but think
> abstract thoughts about the universe.

ROTFLMAO.

You who came up with a different reason for why the Twin Towers were not 
completely crushed from NIST is hilarious.
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

So did you tell NIST your theory about why their "Global Collapse" was not 
really a "Global Collapse." yet?
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

Come on, anybody can see plain as day that if there really had been a 
"Global Collapse": of the Twin Towers they would have been crushed entirely 
but we have wall remaining that were not crushed by the 100+ floors of 
debris above them and your theory about it does not hold water.  ROTFLMAO

 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

And even if the Twin Towers were not MRR nuked there are a lot of strange 
things that require a better investigation than the one NIST gave us.

Rocky 

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