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  GPS Off Course The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-01 12:21 -0800
    Re: GPS Off Course Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 14:30 -0500
    Re: GPS Off Course jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-01 22:15 +0000
    Re: GPS Off Course Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-01 20:37 -0500
      Re: GPS Off Course The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-01 19:26 -0800
        Re: GPS Off Course Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-01 21:33 -0500
          Re: GPS Off Course Bimpy <pimp@pimp.com> - 2016-04-02 13:38 +0000
            Re: GPS Off Course Bimpy <pimp@pimp.com> - 2016-04-02 13:45 +0000
    Re: GPS Off Course Bimpy <pimp@pimp.com> - 2016-04-02 12:07 +0000
    Re: GPS Off Course Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 08:49 -0500
      Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-02 08:10 -0700
        Re: GPS Off Course "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-02 23:22 +0200
          Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-02 16:20 -0700
            Re: GPS Off Course "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-03 13:37 +0200
              Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-03 10:25 -0700
                Re: GPS Off Course "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-04 19:39 +0200
                  Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-04 13:34 -0700
                    Re: GPS Off Course "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-05 09:41 +0200
                      Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-05 01:17 -0700
                        Re: GPS Off Course "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-05 20:00 +0200
                          ORI Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-05 13:12 -0700
                            Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-05 13:54 -0700
                            Re: ORI Re: GPS Off Course The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-05 17:07 -0700
                              Re: ORI Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-05 17:26 -0700
                        Re: GPS Off Course Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-07 04:40 +0200
                          Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-06 22:56 -0700
                            Re: GPS Off Course Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-07 22:54 +0200
                              Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-07 17:02 -0700
                                Re: GPS Off Course Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-08 05:36 +0200
                                  Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-08 01:26 -0700
                                  Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-08 22:16 -0700
                                  Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-08 22:18 -0700
                                    Re: GPS Off Course Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-04-09 08:17 +0200
                                      Re: GPS Off Course "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-09 00:24 -0700
    Re: GPS Off Course The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-02 13:36 -0800
      Re: GPS Off Course The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-02 13:38 -0800
        Re: GPS Off Course The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-02 21:46 -0800

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#567269 — GPS Off Course

Holes in the Sun Are Threatening to Throw Birds, GPS Off Course
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b89qw1paaqibajr/AAAvBJwuhzOw-TKssg5fK3dGa?dl=0


I not sure it's the holes in the sun...it may be the gravitional waves and the anitgravity effect that
is throwing the GPS off course...the measurement of the gravitional waves are off, which is throwing off
GPS.

Does it make any sense?

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#567272

On 4/1/16 3:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Holes in the Sun Are Threatening to Throw Birds, GPS Off Course
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b89qw1paaqibajr/AAAvBJwuhzOw-TKssg5fK3dGa?dl=0
>
>
> I not sure it's the holes in the sun...it may be the gravitional waves and the anitgravity effect that
> is throwing the GPS off course...the measurement of the gravitional waves are off, which is throwing off
> GPS.
>
> Does it make any sense?
>

   No

   OTOH -- Solar coronal holes can result in geomagnetic storms that can
   play havoc with precision GPS measurements, but these storms seldom
   last more than a few days.



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#567324

In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Does it make any sense?

Nothing you post ever makes any sense.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#567348

On 4/1/2016 3:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Holes in the Sun Are Threatening to Throw Birds, GPS Off Course
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b89qw1paaqibajr/AAAvBJwuhzOw-TKssg5fK3dGa?dl=0
>
>
> I not sure it's the holes in the sun...it may be the gravitional waves and the anitgravity effect that
> is throwing the GPS off course...the measurement of the gravitional waves are off, which is throwing off
> GPS.
>
> Does it make any sense?
>

nope.

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#567355

Sergio wrote:
> 
> On 4/1/2016 3:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Holes in the Sun Are Threatening to Throw Birds, GPS Off Course
> > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b89qw1paaqibajr/AAAvBJwuhzOw-TKssg5fK3dGa?dl=0
> >
> >
> > I not sure it's the holes in the sun...it may be the gravitional waves and the anitgravity effect that
> > is throwing the GPS off course...the measurement of the gravitional waves are off, which is throwing off
> > GPS.
> >
> > Does it make any sense?
> >
> 
> nope.

i guess yous two are the smartest guys in the room..

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#567361

On 4/1/2016 10:26 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Sergio wrote:
>>
>> On 4/1/2016 3:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Holes in the Sun Are Threatening to Throw Birds, GPS Off Course
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b89qw1paaqibajr/AAAvBJwuhzOw-TKssg5fK3dGa?dl=0
>>>
>>>
>>> I not sure it's the holes in the sun...it may be the gravitional waves and the anitgravity effect that
>>> is throwing the GPS off course...the measurement of the gravitional waves are off, which is throwing off
>>> GPS.
>>>
>>> Does it make any sense?
>>>
>>
>> nope.
>
> i guess yous two are the smartest guys in the room..
>

we was, but the gravitational waves are making everybody less thinkable. 
  and birdies do not use GPS, many fly by night.

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#567440

Sergio wrote:

> we was, but the gravitational waves are making everybody less thinkable.
>   and birdies do not use GPS, many fly by night.

Actually they does. Birds are using both the position of Sun, Moon and the 
Center of the Milky Way in order to triangulate their own instantaneous 
location. Ie, a capitalist giving fresh bread to hungry people. Isn't it 
wonderful?

Nuland counts up killed Russians in Donbass 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bak7EdAsxZY&t=50s

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#567442

Bimpy wrote:

> Sergio wrote:
> 
>> we was, but the gravitational waves are making everybody less
>> thinkable.
>>   and birdies do not use GPS, many fly by night.
> 
> Actually they does. Birds are using both the position of Sun, Moon and
> the Center of the Milky Way in order to triangulate their own
> instantaneous location. Ie, a capitalist giving fresh bread to hungry
> people. Isn't it wonderful?
> 
> Nuland counts up killed Russians in Donbass
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bak7EdAsxZY&t=50s

Man, that picture is so explanatory in Relativity. A good soul capitalist 
gives bread cut in slices and portions to the hungry population of equally 
human beings. That's how they want it to be. The capitalist is a giver. HE 
gives you. It comes from HIM to YOU. Fuck mee!

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#567412

Koobee Wublee wrote:

> Well, it would be a fatal disaster if the GPS satellites are
> preprogrammed with a fixed offset per general relativity prediction. 
> Luckily, engineers are so much fvcking smarter than self-styled
> physicists.  Engineers have designed in GPS satellites with dynamical
> offset that can be changed from time to time.  So, if sunspots throw the
> GPS timing offset, there is no big deal.  We just have to retune it
> dynamically.  Thanks for pointing this out.  <shrug>

I believe it is much simpler than that. Once a day the satellites clock 
reading are updated by the ground stations. There is no need for more than 
that, since they are updated anyway for any small deviations due to 
various factors. Because clocks are updated, they call it Relativity :)

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#567445

On 4/1/16 3:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Holes in the Sun Are Threatening to Throw Birds, GPS Off Course
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b89qw1paaqibajr/AAAvBJwuhzOw-TKssg5fK3dGa?dl=0
>
>
> I not sure it's the holes in the sun...it may be the gravitional waves and the anitgravity effect that
> is throwing the GPS off course...the measurement of the gravitional waves are off, which is throwing off
> GPS.
>
> Does it make any sense?
>


   No.
   Relativity in the Global Positioning System
 > http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/
 > 
http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/download/lrr-2003-1Color.pdf


 > The Global Positioning System (GPS) uses accurate, stable atomic
 > clocks in satellites and on the ground to provide world-wide position
 > and time determination. These clocks have gravitational and motional
 > frequency shifts which are so large that, without carefully
 > accounting for numerous relativistic effects, the system would not
 > work. This paper discusses the conceptual basis, founded on special
 > and general relativity, for navigation using GPS. Relativistic
 > principles and effects which must be considered include the constancy
 > of the speed of light, the equivalence principle, the Sagnac effect,
 > time dilation, gravitational frequency shifts, and relativity of
 > synchronization. Experimental tests of relativity obtained with a GPS
 > receiver aboard the TOPEX/POSEIDON satellite will be discussed.
 > Recently frequency jumps arising from satellite orbit adjustments
 > have been identified as relativistic effects. These will be explained
 > and some interesting applications of GPS will be discussed.

 > 
http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/download/lrr-2003-1Color.pdf





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#567459

<swormley1@gmail.com> "Sam Wormley" has become
a senile geezer who repeats his Yiddisher street corner
act over and over again, re-posting his fellow kike Ashy's
> 
<http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/>
>
tripe of "Relativity in the Global Positioning System" in 
which it took Ashby 39 questionable & tortured steps to 
get to the 38 usec delay, when & while any high school 
student or engineer, can glean,  for this particular situation, 
in 1 fell swoop, in ONE SINGLE STEP, in good, old 
Newtonian ways, and show that
>
|||||  ----  m_e/h * 2G/c^2 *86400  =  38...  microsec/day  ---- 
|||||  ---     m_e/h * 2G/c *86400  =  11.2... km drift/day   ---- 

where m_e = mass of earth and h = the satellite's height
above the earth surface. Correction are done by standard
industrial ways by classical methods devoid of any SR/GR.
< http://tinyurl.com/622an2>   or < http://tinyurl.com/57asbg>
>>
||||| ---- GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ---- 
||||| not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations.
||||| ---------- GPS was in operation  LONG before -------- 
|||||   Einstein Dingleberries came along to nuzzle into the
|||||   show, hoping to get some credit away from Newton.
>
Sam, the good old days of Juden Physik are GONE!  
However, nobody prevents you and your fellow Einstein 
-Dingleberries from putting around your necks a ,
<http://tinyurl.com/Dog-Cone-for-Relativists>
 so that you can experience your own relativistic 
event horizon and perhaps even see a light cone.
Sam, you old Dreidel, thanks for the laughs
ahahahaahason
. .... 

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#567560

On 02.04.2016 17:10, hanson wrote:
> <swormley1@gmail.com> "Sam Wormley" has become
> a senile geezer who repeats his Yiddisher street corner
> act over and over again, re-posting his fellow kike Ashy's
>>
> <http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/>
>>
> tripe of "Relativity in the Global Positioning System" in which it took
> Ashby 39 questionable & tortured steps to get to the 38 usec delay, when
> & while any high school student or engineer, can glean,  for this
> particular situation, in 1 fell swoop, in ONE SINGLE STEP, in good, old
> Newtonian ways, and show that
>>
> |||||  ----  m_e/h * 2G/c^2 *86400  =  38...  microsec/day  ---- |||||
> ---     m_e/h * 2G/c *86400  =  11.2... km drift/day   ----
> where m_e = mass of earth and h = the satellite's height
> above the earth surface.

But the calculation is wrong even if the result
accidentally is almost correct.

What you have calculated is how much more the proper
time of a satellite which is _stationary_ in the ECI frame
a distance 20.185E6 m from Earth's centre will advance per day
compared to a clock on the ground.
But the GPS satellites are _moving_ at a distance 26.56E6 m
from the Earth's centre. The gravitational part is equivalent
  to ~45.6 us a day, while the speed part is equivalent to
-7 us a day, resulting in ~38.6 us a day.

The errors due to the wrong height and wrong speed
cancels each other.

Here you can see the calculation made properly:
https://paulba.no/pdf/GPS_clock_rate.pdf

Your method wouldn't work for any satellite in any other
orbit than GPS orbit.

If you don't believe that, you can try it on - let's
say the international space station where h = 400 km.
The correct answer is -24.7 us per day.
Your method gives +1944 us a day! :-D

Or you could try it on a geostationary satellite where h = 35.8E6 m.
The correct value is  46.6 us a day.
Your method gives 22 us a day.

See:
https://paulba.no/Satellites.html

If you have problems running Java applets, read this:
https://paulba.no/RunningJava.html


-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#567574

"Paul B. Andersen relativity" <relativity@paulba.no> 
anagrams to the "laudable insanity Pervert" who wrote:
>
hanson wrote:
<swormley1@gmail.com> "Sam Wormley" has become
a senile geezer who repeats his Yiddisher street corner
act over and over again, re-posting his fellow kike Ashy's
> 
<http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/>
>
tripe of "Relativity in the Global Positioning System" in 
which it took Ashby 39 questionable & tortured steps to 
get to the 38 usec delay, when & while any high school 
student or engineer, can glean,  for this particular situation, 
in 1 fell swoop, in ONE SINGLE STEP, in good, old 
Newtonian ways, and show that
>
|||||  ----  m_e/h * 2G/c^2 *86400  =  38...  microsec/day  ---- 
|||||  ---     m_e/h * 2G/c *86400  =  11.2... km drift/day   ---- 

where m_e = mass of earth and h = the satellite's height
above the earth surface. Correction are done by standard
industrial ways by classical methods devoid of any SR/GR.
< http://tinyurl.com/622an2>   or < http://tinyurl.com/57asbg>
>>
||||| ---- GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ---- 
||||| not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations.
||||| ---------- GPS was in operation  LONG before -------- 
|||||   Einstein Dingleberries came along to nuzzle into the
|||||   show, hoping to get some credit away from Newton.
>
Sam, the good old days of Juden Physik are GONE!  
However, nobody prevents you and your fellow Einstein 
-Dingleberries from putting around your necks a ,
<http://tinyurl.com/Dog-Cone-for-Relativists>
 so that you can experience your own relativistic 
event horizon and perhaps even see a light cone.
Sam, you old Dreidel, thanks for the laughs
ahahahahahanson
>
Pervert Einstein-Dingleberry-Paul wrote:
But the calculation is wrong even if the result
accidentally is almost correct. <snip Paul's crap>
>
hanson wrote:
Paul, Paul, Paul... what was discussed was Ashby's crap
, NOT your crock, but you being a religiously compulsive 
Einstein Dingleberry  who worships AE's Sphincter, came
 along, fully outfitted with your custom-made 
<http://tinyurl.com/Dog-Cone-for-Relativists>
which made it impossible for you to see that...
||||| ---- GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ---- 
||||| not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations.
||||| ---------- GPS was in operation  LONG before -------- 
|||||   Einstein Dingleberries came along to nuzzle into the
|||||   show, hoping to get some credit away from Newton.
Paul, thanks for the laughs, though... ahahahahahanson
 

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#567662

On 03.04.2016 01:20, hanson wrote:
> "Paul B. Andersen relativity" <relativity@paulba.no> anagrams to the
> "laudable insanity Pervert" who wrote:
>>
> hanson wrote:
> <swormley1@gmail.com> "Sam Wormley" has become
> a senile geezer who repeats his Yiddisher street corner
> act over and over again, re-posting his fellow kike Ashy's
>>
> <http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/>
>>
> tripe of "Relativity in the Global Positioning System" in which it took
> Ashby 39 questionable & tortured steps to get to the 38 usec delay, when
> & while any high school student or engineer, can glean,  for this
> particular situation, in 1 fell swoop, in ONE SINGLE STEP, in good, old
> Newtonian ways, and show that
>>
> |||||  ----  m_e/h * 2G/c^2 *86400  =  38...  microsec/day  ---- |||||
> ---     m_e/h * 2G/c *86400  =  11.2... km drift/day   ----
> where m_e = mass of earth and h = the satellite's height
> above the earth surface. Correction are done by standard
> industrial ways by classical methods devoid of any SR/GR.
>
> Pervert Einstein-Dingleberry-Paul wrote:
> But the calculation is wrong even if the result
> accidentally is almost correct. <snip Paul's crap>

Even if it may be that you are too stupid to understand
that I was right, I do think you understood that the following
is correct:

But the calculation is wrong even if the result
accidentally is almost correct.

What you have calculated is how much more the proper
time of a satellite which is _stationary_ in the ECI frame
a distance 20.185E6 m from Earth's centre will advance per day
compared to a clock on the ground.
But the GPS satellites are _moving_ at a distance 26.56E6 m
from the Earth's centre. The gravitational part is equivalent
  to ~45.6 us a day, while the speed part is equivalent to
-7 us a day, resulting in ~38.6 us a day.

The errors due to the wrong height and wrong speed
cancels each other.

Here you can see the calculation made properly:
https://paulba.no/pdf/GPS_clock_rate.pdf

Your method wouldn't work for any satellite in any other
orbit than GPS orbit.

If you don't believe that, you can try it on - let's
say the international space station where h = 400 km.
The correct answer is -24.7 us per day.
Your method gives +1944 us a day!

Or you could try it on a geostationary satellite where h = 35.8E6 m.
The correct value is  46.6 us a day.
Your method gives 22 us a day.

See:
https://paulba.no/Satellites.html

If you have problems running Java applets, read this:
https://paulba.no/RunningJava.html


-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#567708

ROTFLMAO .... ahahaha... Relativity is as full of shit as are 
the Einstein Dingleberries who worship Albert's Sphincter as
is exampled by...
>
the "laudable insanity Pervert" "Paul B. Andersen relativity" 
<relativity@paulba.no> who is a sad Einstein Dingleberry who
cranked himself in his grief and plight and so he barked:
> <snipped Paul useless shit> Even if it may be that you 
> are too stupid to understand that I was right, I do think
> you understood that the following is correct:
> 
hanson wrote:
Paul, yes the following is correct, but your useless crap is NOT.
>
Paul, loosen your <http://tinyurl.com/Dog-Cone-for-Relativists>
It's too tight and makes it impossible for you to see that...
>
||||| ---- GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ---- 
||||| not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations.
||||| ---------- GPS was in operation  LONG before -------- 
|||||   Einstein Dingleberries came along to nuzzle into the
|||||   show, hoping to get some credit away from Newton.
Paul, thanks for the laughs, though... ahahahahahanson
 

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#567870

On 03.04.2016 19:25, hanson wrote:
> ||||| ---- GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ---- ||||| not for its
> design, manufacturing, testing nor operations.
> ||||| ---------- GPS was in operation  LONG before -------- |||||
> Einstein Dingleberries came along to nuzzle into the
> |||||   show, hoping to get some credit away from Newton.

You obviously know what you are talking about! :-D

> Paul, thanks for the laughs, though... ahahahahahanson

Likewise.


-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#567930

<relativity@paulba.no> "Paul B. Andersen" loosened his
<http://tinyurl.com/Dog-Cone-for-Relativists> & wrote:
>
hanson wrote:
[..]  
||||| ---- GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ---- 
||||| not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations.
||||| ---------- GPS was in operation  LONG before -------- 
||||| Einstein Dingleberries came along to nuzzle into the
|||||   show, hoping to get some credit away from Newton.
> 
Paul wrote:
You obviously know what you are talking about! :-D
> 
hanson wrote:
Paul, thanks for the laughs, though... ahahahahahanson
> 
Paul wrote:
Likewise.
> 
hanson wrote:
Paul, now you can tell me, and shine with SR/GR 
fundamentals. Millions of pages sing about the
grandeur of "Space time". But they all have different
interpretations of what it is and then formalize it
into, say:
>
ds^2 = dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2 - c^2dt^2    ..... [1].
>
Some say ds^2 is "space-time", others say that
ds is "space-time", other still insist that ds^2 or
ds are "space-time intervals", while others are
adamant that "s" happens to be "space-time"
Which choir do you sing with, Paul?
>
Now, Paul stay calm & don't sing like a castrati.
Just tell me the MLT dimensions of "space-time"

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#568006

On 04.04.2016 22:34, hanson wrote:
> hanson wrote:
> Paul, now you can tell me, and shine with SR/GR fundamentals. Millions
> of pages sing about the
> grandeur of "Space time". But they all have different
> interpretations of what it is and then formalize it
> into, say:
>
> ds^2 = dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2 - c^2dt^2    ..... [1].
>
> Some say ds^2 is "space-time", others say that
> ds is "space-time", other still insist that ds^2 or
> ds are "space-time intervals", while others are
> adamant that "s" happens to be "space-time"
> Which choir do you sing with, Paul?

Why should I try to remedy your confusion?

You can however see an application of the metric
in flat space-time here:
https://paulba.no/pdf/TwinsByMetric.pdf

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#568010

<relativity@paulba.no> "Paul B. Andersen" wrote:
>
hanson wrote:
now Paul, tell me, and shine with SR/GR
fundamentals. Millions of pages sing about the
grandeur of "Space time". But they all have different
interpretations of what it is and then formalize it
into, say:
>
ds^2 = dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2 - c^2dt^2    ..... [1].
>
Some say ds^2 is "space-time", others say that
ds is "space-time", other still insist that ds^2 or
ds are "space-time intervals", while others are
adamant that "s" happens to be "space-time"
Which choir do you sing with, Paul?
>
Now, Paul stay calm & don't sing like a castrati.
Just tell me the MLT dimensions of "space-time"
>
Paul weaseled and sang:
Why should I try to remedy your confusion?
You can however see an application of the metric
>
hanson wrote:
Paul, I am NOT interested in an "application"
which is simply yet another interpretation.
Don't get yourself into that "me too" trap...
>
I wanna know that the MLT dimensions of
"space-time" are. Are you able to do that?

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On 05.04.2016 10:17, hanson wrote:
> <relativity@paulba.no> "Paul B. Andersen" wrote:
>>
> hanson wrote:
> now Paul, tell me, and shine with SR/GR
> fundamentals. Millions of pages sing about the
> grandeur of "Space time". But they all have different
> interpretations of what it is and then formalize it
> into, say:
>>
> ds^2 = dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2 - c^2dt^2    ..... [1].
>>
> Some say ds^2 is "space-time", others say that
> ds is "space-time", other still insist that ds^2 or
> ds are "space-time intervals", while others are
> adamant that "s" happens to be "space-time"
> Which choir do you sing with, Paul?
>>
> Now, Paul stay calm & don't sing like a castrati.
> Just tell me the MLT dimensions of "space-time"
>>
> Paul weaseled and sang:
> Why should I try to remedy your confusion?
> You can however see an application of the metric
>>
> hanson wrote:
> Paul, I am NOT interested in an "application"
> which is simply yet another interpretation.
> Don't get yourself into that "me too" trap...
>>
> I wanna know that the MLT dimensions of
> "space-time" are. Are you able to do that?
>

No.

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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